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It has been known for years that drinking moderate amounts of wine reduces the chance of heart failure.
The keywords of course being moderate and wine.

And this booze is now mine. MINE !

Apparently, people drink small to moderate amounts of alcohol live longer (http://www.reuters.com/article/email/idUSN0735707020080307) than teetotalers.

Thoughts?

Yeah, and I stopped getting plastered because I was concerned about my weight. (I'm about average size, but would rather be ripped for spring break. :) )

Well, anyway, this is for middle-aged people, and most of us are in our teens or 20's. I'm not saying we shouldn't drink, and God forbid I support the minimum drinking age at 21, but let's not go nuts. Maybe when I'm 60 and less concerned about my appearance... then again, by the time I'm 60, we should have all kinds of advanced therapy so we don't have to drink booze for health reasons.

Apparently, people drink small to moderate amounts of alcohol live longer (http://www.reuters.com/article/email/idUSN0735707020080307) than teetotalers.

Thoughts?

Dude, this is hella old news. Everyone has known this for years.

It has been known for years that drinking moderate amounts of wine reduces the chance of heart failure.
The keywords of course being moderate and wine.

And this booze is now mine. MINE !

Red wine to be more accurate.

RED WINE IS MINE! HANDS OFF!

Apparently, people drink small to moderate amounts of alcohol live longer (http://www.reuters.com/article/email/idUSN0735707020080307) than teetotalers.

Thoughts?

Many studies have shown that light to moderate drinkers are healthier than teetotalers, but every time, the researchers have cautioned that there is no reason for the abstinent to start drinking.

What I don't get is why if previous studies indicating that moderate drinkers live longer does not indicate that people should drink, then why does this one change anything?

And why in the world should multiple studies that indicate improved health for moderate drinkers mean that you should not become one?

by the time I'm 60, we should have all kinds of advanced therapy so we don't have to drink booze for health reasons.
Ahhh, the "advances in medical technology and capability will fix me when I'm older" plan. I've been hanging on to that one for the last couple of decades, too. I'm still fairly hopeful :D

What I don't get is why if previous studies indicating that moderate drinkers live longer does not indicate that people should drink, then why does this one change anything?

And why in the world should multiple studies that indicate improved health for moderate drinkers mean that you should not become one?
It doesn't change anything, no, it just adds to the body of evidence. I suspect that the reason that the article doesn't want to encourage the abstinent to start drinking is that they'd get slated if they did.

Dude, this is hella old news. Everyone has known this for years.

From the article (emphasis mine):

Many studies have shown that light to moderate drinkers are healthier than teetotalers, but every time, the researchers have cautioned that there is no reason for the abstinent to start drinking.

Now there may be, said King.

"This study certainly shifts the balance a little bit," King said in a telephone interview.

Because it's fun...
And, if you drink wine it helps you control your cholesterol and prevents heart attacks.:D

And everybody knows being a vegetarian makes you live longer. :rolleyes:

Everything in the world will either give you cancer but cure you of heart disease, or vice versa. It's probably best not to pay too much attention to these surveys, therefore.

I tried being tee-total, but it was too dull.

I rarely drink though.

I tried being tee-total, but it was too dull.

I rarely drink though.

Is that due to a lack of interest in drinking or because you're 15 and have to rely on others to get it?

Is that due to a lack of interest in drinking or because you're 15 and have to rely on others to get it?

I just don't like the taste.

I'm less than 5 paces from More Alcohol than the pub has yet I don't touch it, even though I could.

Alcohol is the opiate of the masses.

Or as B. Franklin so astutely observed:

My Companion at the Press, drank every day a Pint before Breakfast, a Pint at Breakfast with his Bread and Cheese, a Pint between Breakfast and Dinner; a Pint at Dinner; a Pint in the Afternoon about Six O’Clock, and another when he had done his Day’s-work. I thought it a detestable Custom. But is was necessary, he suppos’d, to drink strong Beer that he might be strong to labor. I endeavor’d to convince him that the Bodily Strength afforded by Beer could only be in proportion to the Grain or Flour of the Barley dissolved in the Water of which it was made; that there was more Flour in a Penny-worth of Bread, and therefore if he would eat that with a Pint of Water, it would give him more Strength than a Quart of Beer. He drank on however, & had 4 or 5 Shillings to pay out of his Wages every Saturday Night for that muddling Liquor; an Expense I was free from. And thus these poor Devils keep themselves always under.

Alcohol is the opiate of the masses.

Or as B. Franklin so astutely observed:

"Beer is living proof that God loves us and wants us to be happy."

Apparently, people drink small to moderate amounts of alcohol live longer (http://www.reuters.com/article/email/idUSN0735707020080307) than teetotalers.

Thoughts?

As a moderate drinker (and avid fan of specialty beers), I feel justified in my insistence that delicious, delicious beer is way healthier than soda pop.

I don't smoke, drink, or eat meat and I never get sick and plan on living a long boring life.

Don't whine.
Drink and be merry!
http://www.fozard.net/img/beer-smiley.gif

As a moderate drinker (and avid fan of specialty beers), I feel justified in my insistence that delicious, delicious beer is way healthier than soda pop.

I wouldn't doubt it, as your body metabolises a can of soda pop like it's a huge spoonful of sugar. And don't forget the ones that use caramel coloring...

Though I really don't drink soda pop anyway. I might have one or two cans a week, if even. I'm much bigger on milk, fruit juice, and green tea. I'd drink beer, but I'll have to wait until next year to legally buy some, and when that time comes around, it'll be a six pack of Guinness Draught.

Alcohol is a waste product produced by yeast.
Yeast is a microorganism.
Microorganisms are colloquially referred to as "bugs."

Therefore beer is bug shit. ;)

Or at least, every beer I've ever had, no matter its country of origin, tasted like bug shit, to me.

Nope, give me southern-brewed, so-sweet-it-puts-you-in-a-diabetic-coma tea.

Alcohol is a waste product produced by yeast.
Yeast is a microorganism.
Microorganisms are colloquially referred to as "bugs."

Therefore beer is bug shit. ;)

You made my Yeastie look sad.

http://www.giantmicrobes.com/us/files/images/productdetails/beerandbread.jpg

Say you're sorry !

Alcohol is a waste product produced by yeast.
Yeast is a microorganism.
Microorganisms are colloquially referred to as "bugs."

Therefore beer is bug shit. ;)

Or at least, every beer I've ever had, no matter its country of origin, tasted like bug shit, to me.

Nope, give me southern-brewed, so-sweet-it-puts-you-in-a-diabetic-coma tea.

I hate non-drinkers who get all uppity about it.

It's called an acquired taste. Not every carbonated drink has to be sickeningly sweet.

Do you eat cheese, by the way?

alcohol is a drug that is legal to take when you reach a certain age, but some other drugs aren't, purely because the evil corporations who make loads of money from selling alcohol to people would mean economic troubles for said government. So enjoy your continuing of destruction!:)
ah what do i know anyway?

alcohol is a drug that is legal to take when you reach a certain age, but some other drugs aren't, purely because the evil corporations who make loads of money from selling alcohol to people would mean economic troubles for said government. So enjoy your continuing of destruction!:)
ah what do i know anyway?

Two words: Goofballian Way.:D

Do the benefits increase the more you drink?

This could be useful to me.

Do the benefits increase the more you drink?

This could be useful to me.

they do if you lose your job.
sorry poor pun there.
*hangs head in shame*
*wonders why hanging head in shame even makes a difference over the internet when in fact i could be lying,(and continues this strange thought process which could derail yet another thread)*
for some i suppose they do in a social way. (as in you get to share social experiences from being drunk or seeing others drunk).

I don't smoke, drink, or eat meat and I never get sick and plan on living a long boring life.
It's people like you that make my life a misery :p

"YOU CAN'T SMOKE HERE!"
"DRINK IN MODERATION, OR BETTER YET, DON'T!"
"MEAT IS FOR BADDIES!"

Don't even get me fucking started on people with peanut allergies. Seriously. GAAAAH!

(PS, I have had a 12-hour long day at the office, so to speak, so please take everything I say with a pinch of salt :p)

It has been known for years that drinking moderate amounts of wine reduces the chance of heart failure.
The keywords of course being moderate and wine.

And this booze is now mine. MINE !

Red wine to be more accurate.

RED WINE IS MINE! HANDS OFF!


nope...not just red wine. All alcohol. Red wine just has the added benefit of elevated antioxidants.

they do if you lose your job.
sorry poor pun there.
I was unaware "I loves the Bucky" gets you more benefits :p
for some i suppose they do in a social way. (as in you get to share social experiences from being drunk or seeing others drunk).
Also purest alcoholism.

nope...not just red wine. All alcohol. Red wine just has the added benefit of elevated antioxidants.

Which you can get in a glass of grape juice.