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Which popular misconceptions, if any, do you find the most irritating? It can relate to science (evolution is "only" a theory), religion (Muslims are required to hate America), politics (too many to count), or even a common misunderstanding of something more trivial (it is wrong to end a sentence with a preposition).

For argument's sake, how bout "Islam is a religion of peace", science is infallible, and there's nothing awkward about ending a sentence with a preposition?

For argument's sake, how bout "Islam is a religion of peace", science is infallible, and there's nothing awkward about ending a sentence with a preposition?
The only thing that's missing is a preposition at the end, like if. ;)

People refer to a lectern as a podium.
People think Cuba is an evil, Communist, undemocratic hellhole.
The Soviet Union and Communism in general fail.

Obama is an evil terrorist Muslim.
Video games make kids violent.
Germany did everything evil from 1914-1945.

That everyone from the southern United States is a Bible thumping, conservative, redneck.

OMG! The last sentence in both posts ended in "a prepostion"!


Shit I did it too...

people who own guns are rednecks/wack-jobs

police have ticket quotas

Stalin was a communist

The only thing that's missing is a preposition at the end, like if. ;)

"If" isn't a preposition. :p Unless my gradeschool teachers were messing with me...

For me, anything having to do with astrology takes the cake - even casual mentions of your "sign" kinda irritate me. Ugh.

I find it irritating when Republicans compare themselves to Ronald Reagan, or when Democrats compare themselves to John F. Kennedy.

I also find the way the news usually reports goings on in the Vatican. Not things like abuse scandals, but when the Pope makes a religious declaration. It's bad enough that political opinions get oversimplified, and religion is generally even subtler. The same is probably true with the way other religions are reported, I just don't notice it as easily.

Finally, I am irritated by the oversimplification of science. To a point it is very helpful, but it would also be useful if newspapers just said, "Here the science gets more complicated, and we can't explain it adequately here. However, it's still true, and if you read [useful book] you will get a better understanding of evolution/global warming/cloning/the stock market."

In short, dumbing down and soundbitification bother me.

there's nothing awkward about ending a sentence with a preposition?
Yeah, how about it?

Quoting xkcd, Monty Python, Mel Brooks, or 4chan memes verbatim makes you "cool" or "funny".

The Internet is populated mainly by hackers, terrorists, and perverts.

Wikipedia is poor source material because it is, by nature, prone to inaccuracies. (Actually, it's poor source material for a completely different reason.)

"Every girl that gets an abortion is a stupid whore."

Yeah, how about it?

"It" isn't a preposition either. :p That's a pronoun.

Possibly. We like to do that. My elementary science teacher told me if you were in space and got a pinprick in your suit, your whole body would be sucked through the hole. :(

Huh? "Astrology" is the superstition that the position of stars and planets at different times has implications for your luck or fortune or misfortune or whatever else, here on Earth. It's not in any way scientific or related to science. ;)

Misconceptions/myths about bisexual women annoy me. Very specific, I know, but since I am one I find myself highly annoyed. Some of the more irritating ones:

You're only bisexual if you like both genders equally
Bisexual people are only happy if they're with someone of each gender
Bisexuals cannot be monogamous
Bisexuals spread HIV through the straight community
Bisexual girls are really straight--they just think it's cool to be "bi". This one really irks me. I ran into so many "bi" girls/LUGs in college who only wanted to make out when they were wasted and a guy was watching. :(
Bisexual guys are really gay.
Bisexual people are desperate, they'll sleep with anyone/they're promiscuous.
Being bisexual is a "phase". For some people it may be. For a lot of people it isn't.
Everyone's bisexual. No, no they are not. I have met some incredibly straight and incredibly gay people.


Hmm, other misconceptions that annoy me... you really shouldn't give me a license to rant! I dislike people (usually male, sorry) who think women don't know anything about sports. I like sports. A lot. Violent sports like hockey. I cheer after a good fight. I have breasts. Deal with it.

I'm sure I'll think of more as the night waxes on/I continue to drink.

"If" isn't a preposition. :p Unless my gradeschool teachers were messing with me...

For me, anything having to do with astrology takes the cake - even casual mentions of your "sign" kinda irritate me. Ugh.

Possibly. We like to do that. My elementary science teacher told me if you were in space and got a pinprick in your suit, your whole body would be sucked through the hole. :(

Wikipedia is poor source material because it is, by nature, prone to inaccuracies. (Actually, it's poor source material for a completely different reason.)

What are the reasons that you believe it's a poor source?

Some misconceptions that annoy me:

"Islam is evil."
"Osama is a good muslim."
"Dubya is not the worst president we've ever had."
"Abortion/homosexuality is bad."
"Execution/waterboarding is acceptable."
"Religion is necessary."
"Religion is a good influence on people."

The Internet is populated mainly by hackers, terrorists, and perverts.I think the percentage of perverts makes that statement true.

Anarchy is synonymous with chaos.

Oh, ALSO!

I really hate the association between scene/emo kids and cutting. I will be the first to admit that I laugh at and make use of the "I wish my lawn was emo so it would cut itself" thing, but it really annoys me when people think that cutters are all skinny sad emo kids with black eyeliner who listens to shit music. Actually, I'm more mad at emo kids for that than anything. Self-injury is actually a fairly common and serious thing and it has nothing to do with music culture. I self-injured for three years. It's not cool, or angsty, or deep, it's just a coping mechanism, like anything else, only it leaves a lot of scars.

"Dubya is not the worst president we've ever had."What about Andrew Johnson?

"Every girl that gets an abortion is a stupid whore."Yeah, a few were non-whores who were raped, and some of them are probably just smart whores who don't like to use birth control.

Anarchy is synonymous with chaos.With no government, doesn't that by definition mean that society is chaotically driven?

What about Andrew Johnson?

Or Harding?

Sorry to say, but Bush isn't the worst president.

Clowns are evil.

Not true. There are quite a few good clowns out there despite our constant efforts to stamp them out. *nod*

What are the reasons that you believe it's a poor source?

A "normal" encyclopedia has, as I recall, a trained panel of writers who consult with professionals in the fields to gain the correct information, then compose articles that are ideally at the same time correct and technical, and useful and readable to the layman.

Wikipedia doesn't have the intermediaries. Thus, the professionals themselves are free to write the articles; but, while they may be good in their fields, they are not particularly good at writing, with the result that articles are full of difficult-to-understand technical terms and commonly fail to explain the basic knowledge because the writer is under the impression that "everyone ought to know that" (not uncommon for those in such professions; for instance, I'm still sometimes amazed that some people think in pictures instead of words, or can't mentally "hear" the notes when reading sheet music). Therefore, the information in the article may be accurate, but it is either too precise, and difficult to understand, or too general.

Well, that and folks often don't cite sources.

The Liberals and the NDP share the same values and goals. (Sorry, you have to be Canadian, and probably a New Democrat, to appreciate that one)

The monarchy is mainly what distinguishes Canadians from Americans.

Refugee claimants are coddled/get a free ride from the government.

With no government, doesn't that by definition mean that society is chaotically driven?

No.

No.But then something would indeed be ordering/governing society, and it would not be anarchy.

Evolution is a religion.
Atheists are all nihilists/moral relativists. (To the credit of people in general, this one is relatively rare)
My source is perfect/my argument is not a strawman or other fallacy.
Video games cause shootings. (So did comic books and rock and roll)
Guns cause shootings.
Lots of security cameras is not bad.
Etc.

The monarchy is mainly what distinguishes Canadians from Americans.A misconception indeed, as Canadians and Americans are generally indistinguishable.

But then something would indeed be ordering/governing society, and it would not be anarchy.

Do you need laws and law enforcement to keep you from doing wrong?

But then something would indeed be ordering/governing society, and it would not be anarchy.

You can order society without a monopoly (i.e. a barrier to entry sustained through physical force) on jurisdiction, you know. In fact, you can do it better.

Actually, the real reason that Wikipedia is a poor source is the same reason that the Encyclopedia Britannica is a poor source. It's secondary at best.

Do you need laws and law enforcement to keep you from doing wrong?Not me personally, as my personal moral code is not inferior to the legal code.

You can order society without a monopoly (i.e. a barrier to entry sustained through physical force) on jurisdiction, you know. In fact, you can do it better.If that is the case, then it is those terms of order and their enforcement mechanisms that govern society.

Not me personally, as my personal moral code is not inferior to the legal code.

Generally speaking, Anarchists believe the government introduces more wrongs than it prevents. I'm not certain I agree with that, but let's use cigarette smoking as an example:


Why do we need laws to prevent people from somking indoors and other poorly ventilated spaces around people who don't like it? One would have to be a complete asshole to have absolutely no regard for the feelings and welfare of the people around him. Yet people do. WHy? Because there's no law against it.

People lose sight of 'right and wrong' and only see 'legal and illegal'. Anarchists typically believe 'right and wrong' is a better form of self management. Especially if we all have shotguns. :)

A misconception indeed, as Canadians and Americans are generally indistinguishable.

Maybe so, but I'm sick to death of hearing that we have to go on pretending to be a British colony to stave off American annexation. Am I the only one that's noticed Britain's more pro-American than we are these days?

Oh!
Missed "Religion is necessary for morality."
The implications of this one damage the one holding it more then the one opposing it, because basically it means "If I did not have the irrational and quite possibly fragile belief that there is a God, I would go outside and stab people. I also am too stupid to understand how you are different."
As long as I'm making this post, I'd like to add "Bad spelling/grammar means bad argument." The interesting thing about this one is that it only applies to people who think it's true.
Also, it's so funny how practically every grammar nazi I've ever seen spells grammar with an e.

One would have to be a complete asshole to have absolutely no regard for the feelings and welfare of the people around him. Yet people do. WHy? Because there's no law against it.


I don't think it's the right conclusion. The actual conclusion of 'why?' is... because they're assholes.

Laws are for the weak to protect from the strong.

Generally speaking, Anarchists believe the government introduces more wrongs than it prevents. I'm not certain I agree with that, but let's use cigarette smoking as an example:


Why do we need laws to prevent people from somking indoors and other poorly ventilated spaces around people who don't like it? One would have to be a complete asshole to have absolutely no regard for the feelings and welfare of the people around him. Yet people do. WHy? Because there's no law against it.

People lose sight of 'right and wrong' and only see 'legal and illegal'. Anarchists typically believe 'right and wrong' is a better form of self management. Especially if we all have shotguns. :)
The thing about anarchy is that there is plenty of evidence to draw from when comparing it to other forms of government. Societies in anarchy are demonstrably more disorderly, unfree, and dangerous than most forms of government.

"If only we ban guns, then these shootings wouldn't happen."

Maybe so, but I'm sick to death of hearing that we have to go on pretending to be a British colony to stave off American annexation. Am I the only one that's noticed Britain's more pro-American than we are these days?

Really? I've always thought of Canada as "Cold, more liberal America."
And I'm afraid most Americans agree.

If that is the case, then it is those terms of order and their enforcement mechanisms that govern society.

OK, sure. But there is still no state, which is the prerequisite of anarchy. One can still have laws in anarchy; it's just that there is no monopolist to legislate them from the top-down.

Chinese is difficult to learn because of tones.

This is a fallacy bought into by most Chinese teachers themselves and it screws up how Chinese is taught for many people, who give up because the fact is that learning Chinese through correct tones really is very difficult.

It's just the wrong way to teach it - the fact is that context counts for a huge amount and tones simply aren't overly important unless you're looking to state a single word out of context.

It's far better to just teach people conversational Chinese, we naturally pick up the tones the more we speak.

instead, you see entire lessons spent on repeating a simple word in the right tone, making it both boring and buying into the idea that it's difficult to learn.

I've seen too many people give up for this reason and it's a shame.

Really? I've always thought of Canada as "Cold, more liberal America."
And I'm afraid most Americans agree.

Depends on where you are. Alberta is a lot like Texas, only not as anti-American.* Quebec, Quebec City in particular, would be alien to most American sensibilities. Most of the rest of the country is somewhere in between.

I guess my point is that Britain is practically yearning to become the 51st state, as far as I can tell anyway, while most Canadians tend to exaggerate our differences to proclaim our cultural independance. Ironically, part of exaggerating our differences comes from wrapping ourselves in British Imperial subordination just at the time when Britain is happily accepting a junior partnership in the American Anglosphere. And that's whats pissing me off. Clear as mud?





*Someone smarter than me coined that.

Clowns are evil.

Not true. There are quite a few good clowns out there despite our constant efforts to stamp them out. *nod*

*whimpers* I'm going to have the dreams again... the fake smile, the huge shoes... *cries*

The monarchy is mainly what distinguishes Canadians from Americans.

People actually think that? We all know it's so much more! It's the accent, the poutine, the love of hockey and molson and the use of "eh" that distinguish Canadians from Americans!

...I'm kidding, of course. Sadly, I'm an American with Canada envy (I'm from Northern California, so it makes sense).

*whimpers* I'm going to have the dreams again... the fake smile, the huge shoes... *cries*

http://www.boomspeed.com/looonatic/Misc-EvilClowns.jpg

:)

http://www.boomspeed.com/looonatic/Misc-EvilClowns.jpg

:)

Never fear, I have banana peels, and Pie themed traps for the clowns! Banana peels and pies are the clowns weakness. *nods* Seltzer Bottles works too.

Never fear, I have banana peels, and Pie themed traps for the clowns! Banana peels and pies are the clowns weakness. *nods* Seltzer Bottles works too.

It's nice to know that our Ministry of Disinformation is doing it's job. :)

http://www.boomspeed.com/looonatic/Misc-EvilClowns.jpg

:)

*SCREAMS*

I'm staying with Wilgrove and his banana peels.

Other people's misconceptions don't really bother me. I've found Machiavelli's advice useful on this subject: 'The wise man should take care to see that his enemies overestimate his vices, and his friends underestimate his virtues.'

*SCREAMS*

I'm staying with Wilgrove and his banana peels.
Sigworthy. :)

Other people's misconceptions don't really bother me. I've found Machiavelli's advice useful on this subject: 'The wise man should take care to see that his enemies overestimate his virtues, and his friends underestimate his virtues.'

Good point. *bows*

Misconceptions/myths about bisexual women annoy me. Very specific, I know, but since I am one I find myself highly annoyed. Some of the more irritating ones:

Bisexual girls are really straight--they just think it's cool to be "bi". This one really irks me. I ran into so many "bi" girls/LUGs in college who only wanted to make out when they were wasted and a guy was watching. :(
Bisexual guys are really gay.
Bisexual people are desperate, they'll sleep with anyone/they're promiscuous.
Being bisexual is a "phase". For some people it may be. For a lot of people it isn't.
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I honestly think there are very few bisexuals and those who claim to be are often trying to "legitimize" their homosexuality or have no luck with what nature tells them. Not all claimed bisexuals, but the majority.

I honestly think there are very few bisexuals and those who claim to be are often trying to "legitimize" their homosexuality or have no luck with what nature tells them. Not all claimed bisexuals, but the majority.I think this is an irritating misconception. Do you have a non-anecdotal basis for believing this?

I honestly think there are very few bisexuals and those who claim to be are often trying to "legitimize" their homosexuality or have no luck with what nature tells them. Not all claimed bisexuals, but the majority.

"No luck with what nature tells them"? I don't even know what that means. Nature, biology and chemicals tell me that girls and guys are hot. I've had luck with both.

More hated misconception: "I don't need to signal a turn or a lane change. The people around me will know I'm doing it when they see me doing it."

Less hated misconception: "The speed limit is a lower limit, not an upper."

In-between misconception: "You (personally) owe me (personally) something significant and important to you because your ancestors wronged my ancestors by [insert moral outrage]."

You know that feeling when you know there's a really good Far Side cartoon but you can never find it on the internet when you need it? You know, the one with the giant clown and the pie catapult? Yeah, you know the one I mean? :headbang:

Um, to get on topic, that all teenage atheists are so for the purpose of sticking it to the Man.

In-between misconception: "You (personally) owe me (personally) something significant and important to you because your ancestors wronged my ancestors by [insert moral outrage]."

This is not a misconception, but rather is entirely true. For instance, many teachers used to beat left-handed children until they became right-handed. Would it not be fair to demand reparations? Yes. Yes it would.

*gets shot by everyone who wants to see this left-handed, pan-thread martyr-complex die*

But then something would indeed be ordering/governing society, and it would not be anarchy.

Anarchy is when there is no greater government to control the individual, this does not mean that the individual does not govern him/herself.



Oh, and I can see that ending a sentence with a preposition is not something you foreigners are familiar with.
;)

Quoting xkcd, Monty Python, Mel Brooks, or 4chan memes verbatim makes you "cool" or "funny".

http://imgs.xkcd.com/comics/monty_python.jpg

That certain activity/music style is necessarily boring just because they've never given time to doing/listening to it.

Agreed with others in this thread, specifically religious and homo/bisexuality ones. It also really pissed me off when one of my friends told me that I don't look bisexual.

That Alaska is part of Canada.

That New Mexico is part of Mexico.

That Southerners can feel pain.

That Cheechakos have a purpose in life.

That Straughn deserves worship.

That I can be serious.

Okay, common misconceptions that irritate me...

Australians ride kangaroos.
Young people are ignorant.
Everyone becomes more right wing as they get older.
Australian film is bad.
Men who dance/iceskate are gay.
Ice skating is not a sport.
It's okay to touch someone's hair because it's long/afro.
Size 12 is fat.
Allergies and intolerances aren't legitimite.
People who legitimitely need sinus medication or ADD medication are speed addicts.
People who smoke pot will do nothing with their lives.
Art isn't a real job/uni-course.
Liking Nirvana makes you grunge/emo/etc.
People who cut are emo.
All eating disordered people are anorexic.
Bulimics are lazy.
People who are constantly sick are hypochondriacs.
Mental illness isn't legitimite.
You have OCD because you don't like toilets/germs/you like to count/etc.
All academics/uni-students have no life experience/don't know anything about the real world.
People on government allowences are lazy.
Alzheimers isn't bad because you don't know you're forgetting.
Families who split up are bad.
Girls who have sex are whores.
Being smart makes you uncool.
It's okay to rape a girl if she's kissed you/lead you on/worn certain clothes/etc.

"If" isn't a preposition. :p Unless my gradeschool teachers were messing with me...

For me, anything having to do with astrology takes the cake - even casual mentions of your "sign" kinda irritate me. Ugh.

Teachers taught me "if" was a proposition, but I'm pretty sure it's a conjunction.

"Every girl that gets an abortion is a stupid whore."

That pisses me off too.

Oh, ALSO!

I really hate the association between scene/emo kids and cutting. I will be the first to admit that I laugh at and make use of the "I wish my lawn was emo so it would cut itself" thing, but it really annoys me when people think that cutters are all skinny sad emo kids with black eyeliner who listens to shit music. Actually, I'm more mad at emo kids for that than anything. Self-injury is actually a fairly common and serious thing and it has nothing to do with music culture. I self-injured for three years. It's not cool, or angsty, or deep, it's just a coping mechanism, like anything else, only it leaves a lot of scars.

Yeh, that pisses me off too.

Or the "my scars are deeper than yours so I'm more fucked up" thing.

Uh, no, I just have vitamin E oil and a lot of bandages. :rolleyes:

That Alaska is part of Canada.If only!
That Cheechakos have a purpose in life.Our purpose in life is to infiltrate Alaska and overwhelm it with our sheer numbers. Actually, I think one common misconception is that there are people who aren't Cheechako. All the kids escape as soon as they can to go to live in the civilized world. Everybody else a closet transplant. Except for the Natives.

I guess my point is that Britain is practically yearning to become the 51st state
That is probably the misconception that annoys me the most.

There is also:

Labour and the Conservatives are the same now.
Hezbollah and Hamas have legitimate grievances that justify their wars against Israel.
The Iraq war was about oil.
Britain could have and should have kept its empire.
The EU wants to create a superstate and destroy Britain.
Hugo Chavez has been good for the poor of Venezuela.
Poor grammar does not matter.
The people of Northern Ireland want to join the Republic of Ireland and are being oppressed by Great Britain (Americans seem to be particularly bad at this one, especially those with Irish heritage).
You cannot measure happiness through GDP, and we should focus on 'national happiness' rather than GDP.
Local foods are better than supermarket products, and those chains are destroying superior local producers.
The arms trade is immoral.
Free trade is bad and unfair.
National jobs should be protected.
Tyranny should not be given a platform as it does not deserve freedom of speech.
Asylum seekers, immigrants and illegal immigrants are the same thing.

Men who dance/iceskate are gay.
Ice skating is not a sport.NIETHER IS BUTT-SEXING,. GAYWAD
It's okay to touch someone's hair because it's long/afro.I hate this. And then they ask you after they start touching it. Then they assume you're being sarcastic when you say "no". I think I'm going to hit the next person who touches my hair. Unless they're hot.
Size 12 is fat.Fattie. Sounds like you need to work on that eating disorder a little harder.

Liking Nirvana makes you grunge/emo/etc.
People who cut are emo.However if you cut AND like Nirvana, you're pretty much emo by definition.

All eating disordered people are anorexic.
Bulimics are lazy.
People who are constantly sick are hypochondriacs.Maybe the eating disorder is making you sick.

You have OCD because you don't like toilets/germs/you like to count/etc."like to count"? This guy likes to count:
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/9/96/Countvoncount.jpg
There's nothing wrong with admitting a little OCD.

People on government allowences are lazy.If you ask me, they aren't lazy, they're just smart enough to milk the system.
Girls who have sex are whores.Only if they're paid.
Being smart makes you uncool.Only if you let anybody find out.
It's okay to rape a girl if she's kissed you/lead you on/worn certain clothes/etc.Come on, she was practically asking for it!
Uh, no, I just have vitamin E oil and a lot of bandages. :rolleyes:That's totally cheating.

Maybe so, but I'm sick to death of hearing that we have to go on pretending to be a British colony to stave off American annexation. Am I the only one that's noticed Britain's more pro-American than we are these days?

The British government, little more. Anti-American sentiment runs high through Britain. We have stereotypes of them, as fat and ignorant. George Bush is generally viewed as a complete idiot, and jokes are frequently made about how stupid a population would have to be to vote for him.

These aren't true, for the most part. But, the Brits are by no means excessively pro-American. I'd blame Mr Blair for that.

That everyone who lives in the South (specifically Texas)
-- Rides a horse
- Wears a cowboy hat
- Wears cowboy boots
- Goes to church every Sunday
- Loves conservatism
- Hates science
- Loves Bush
And last but most annoying...
- Drinks/enjoys iced tea.
Not everyone likes it! People from the south do this too! It's damned tea with ice! Get over yourself!

(sorry, that's a touchy subject for me)

Which popular misconceptions, if any, do you find the most irritating? It can relate to science (evolution is "only" a theory), religion (Muslims are required to hate America), politics (too many to count), or even a common misunderstanding of something more trivial (it is wrong to end a sentence with a preposition).
Atheists are immoral. Evolutionary theory is interchangeable with a theory of abiogenesis. Bisexuals are all sluts. Sexism no longer exists. Racism no longer exists.

And pretty much any statement that starts "Men are all..." or "Women are all..." or which posits supposed "innate" differences between the male brain and the female brain.

I honestly think there are very few bisexuals and those who claim to be are often trying to "legitimize" their homosexuality or have no luck with what nature tells them. Not all claimed bisexuals, but the majority.
I've seen a gendered division when it comes to false claims of bisexuality. Among men, you're more likely to find out that a "bisexual" man is really just gay but isn't all the way out of the closet. Among women, you're more likely to find out that a "bisexual" women really is straight and just makes out with other girls to get attention from straight boys.

Which is all extremely annoying for an actual bisexual, for the record. I learned this the hard way in college. 99% of the girls who claimed to be bisexual turned out to just be kissing me so the guys would think they were hot and wild. Which is a very, very shitty thing to do, not to mention pathetic.

I guess this division makes sense, since the pressures on guys and gals are rather different in my culture, but it still sucks for me (and I'm the only one who really matters!).

Which popular misconceptions, if any, do you find the most irritating? It can relate to science (evolution is "only" a theory), religion (Muslims are required to hate America), politics (too many to count), or even a common misunderstanding of something more trivial (it is wrong to end a sentence with a preposition).

Indians are not Asians. I am from the continent of Asia, therefore I am Asian. Enough said.

Anti-American sentiment runs high through Britain. We have stereotypes of them, as fat and ignorant.Surely they realize they're giving us a run for our money in these areas?

-There are Americans who are good people.

-Racism is okay if it is directed at the "evil white man".

-Science and religion can not co-exist.

Just three of the biggest ones. More later.

That an opinion you disagree with is a misconception. (Plenty of examples of that in here.)

That copyright and trademarks is the same thing.

That most Christians believe in ID.

That all Christians want everyone else to follow their own personal morales.

That Windows and PC is the same thing.

That .doc is a standard file format.

That computers is a new kind of TV. (My mom seems to think so.)

The misconception that irritates me.
When someone believe that someone who has a difference of opinion to them, is actually wrong, or, in the context of this thread has a "misconception".
That is probably the misconception that annoys me the most.

There is also:
Labour and the Conservatives are the same now.
They are more alike than they should be. Politics should be about choice.
A slight edit on a post to show how it's opinion not misconception.
Israel have legitimate grievances that justify their genocide against Palestine.
The Iraq war was about oil. Yes, it was. Difference of opinion again.
Britain could have and should have kept its empire. Who has that misconception. WWII was the end of the empire. Everyone knows that, surely.
The EU wants to create a superstate and destroy Britain. Only tinfoil hat wearing Brits have that misconception.
Hugo Chavez has been good for the poor of Venezuela. Much better than what most other oil rich countries have done for their people. Opinion, once more
Poor grammar does not matter. i db8 that Opinion more again. Also incredibly arrogant. There are many non native speakers on the internet.
The people of Northern Ireland want to join the Republic of Ireland and are being oppressed by Great Britain (Americans seem to be particularly bad at this one, especially those with Irish heritage). A signficant part of N Ireland think they are being oppressed. More opinion.
You cannot measure happiness through GDP, and we should focus on 'national happiness' rather than GDP. I'm surprised there are any people who honestly believe GDP can measure happiness. I thought all the rich people know it is a meaningless measure, but as it makes it look good even when they are hoarding the wealth, they tell people GDP is a useful happiness measure. But I wont say you have a misconception. I'll say you have a different (but highly flawed) opinion to me.
The arms trade is immoral. Yes. It is immoral. Opinion again.
Free trade is bad and unfair. Free trade is not free. EU and the US subsidise heavily some of their products, but go beserk when any small country tries to do the same. Thus "free trade" as being practised is unfair. Wait. opinion, not misconception again.
Tyranny should not be given a platform as it does not deserve freedom of speech. I agree with you on that. Free speech is important. But once again, those who think free speech is less important that stopping hate, are not possessing a misconception, they have a Difference of Opinion.

To finish and show what a misconception actually is, I dislike the misconception that most Aussies are all bronzed beach babes/hunks.

Oh, and I can see that ending a sentence with a preposition is not something you foreigners are familiar with.
;)Ending a sentence with a preposition is something with which I am quite familiar, but choose from which to refrain, lest I give anybody a headache. Waitaminute I'm not a foreigner, you're the foreigner!!
Dermund;13513149']-There are Americans who are good people.Every last one is a monster!

Which popular misconceptions, if any, do you find the most irritating? It can relate to science (evolution is "only" a theory), religion (Muslims are required to hate America), politics (too many to count), or even a common misunderstanding of something more trivial (it is wrong to end a sentence with a preposition).

Many (note, I'm not saying 'most' or 'all') atheists think that they have infallible (yet unexpressed) logic that is both innate, and unassailable.

There are logical pros and cons to both atheism, and theism... and people who completely fail to see that bother me... it feels like I see it more in atheists who try to hide behind their 'perfect' logic more than the inverse.

Every last one is a monster!

And how!

:p

1. Facts subscribe to political ideologies and it is valid to counter them as <insert political label here>.
2. Matters of fact are a matter of opinion.
3. Matters of opinion are a matter of fact.

In-between misconception: "You (personally) owe me (personally) something significant and important to you because your ancestors wronged my ancestors by [insert moral outrage]."
This is not a misconception, but rather is entirely true. For instance, many teachers used to beat left-handed children until they became right-handed. Would it not be fair to demand reparations? Yes. Yes it would.
My father had this happen to him. So you are saying, if I follow my original premise into your argument correctly, that it would be okay for my brother, sisters, and I to go after that teacher's son and demand compensation of some sort. I don't see how anyone except the persons receiving reparations in this scenario could agree with that logic.

In either case, I think you've set up a straw man here because you didn't address my original point. I said "ancestors" for a reason. I don't owe anyone a goddamned thing because Mexico lost California in a war 130 years before I was born. I don't owe anyone because my multi-great grand uncle owned slaves.

(I was going to say something about the English conquest of Ireland, but because my ancestry is English and Irish I lost my point :p )

Which popular misconceptions, if any, do you find the most irritating? It can relate to science (evolution is "only" a theory), religion (Muslims are required to hate America), politics (too many to count), or even a common misunderstanding of something more trivial (it is wrong to end a sentence with a preposition).


All of the above and a few besides.
The "My religion (and my interpretation of it) is the only one that's right, everybody else has it soooo wrong, because I say so" misconception always gets me going.

The "The USA won WWII" I really only find slightly ridiculous by now.

The "You owe your country ...(fill in whatever is required at the moment)" is even funnier.

That you can't drink red wine with fish! http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v427/vonbek/rant.gif

That you can't drink red wine with fish! http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v427/vonbek/rant.gif

Depends on the fish and the recipe, doesn't it? ;)

Depends on the fish and the recipe, doesn't it? ;)

Absolutely! Merlot and salmon....I don't think so LOL

but a light Brouilly with red snapper...sure...

Absolutely! Merlot and salmon....I don't think so LOL

but a light Brouilly with red snapper...sure...

I've always been partial to a nice trout with rosemary and a nice Chianti, myself.

I've always been partial to a nice trout with rosemary and a nice Chianti, myself.

mmmm yeah...trout...*sigh*

I love trout...

Absolutely! Merlot and salmon....I don't think so LOL

but a light Brouilly with red snapper...sure...

Cabernet Sauvignon goes well with Ahi steaks.

My most hated miconceptions:

When a teenager leaves Christianity, they're only in it for rebellion.

Being an atheist is just a phase, that a few never grow out of.

Freshman Seminar is a useful and necessary class.

Obama is a Muslim terrorist attempting to destroy America from the inside.

Teenagers have no clue what they're talking about.

Standardized testing is an excellent way to educate kids.

Which popular misconceptions, if any, do you find the most irritating? It can relate to science (evolution is "only" a theory), religion (Muslims are required to hate America), politics (too many to count), or even a common misunderstanding of something more trivial (it is wrong to end a sentence with a preposition).

Well, that last one doesn't bother me too much because the number of people dumb enough to complain about any instance of ending a sentence with a preposition and yet intelligent enough to know what a preposition is is pretty trivial.

The notion that the media is liberal annoys the hell out of me, because when the media is steadfastly refusing to report anything negative about Bush and touts the party line whenever Bush makes an announcement, these people think that's a far worse picture of Bush than is actually the case.

Which popular misconceptions, if any, do you find the most irritating?
- People use only 10% of their brain
- You need to drink 2 liters of water a day
- Correlation means causation
- If everyone had a gun, people wouldn't shoot each other
- X is in and of itself good/bad without any further qualification and without depending on further conditions (for most values of X people come up with; e.g. free trade, globalization, GM food, religion, etc)
- Tinfoil stops the governments mind control rays
- Each opinion is equally worthwhile; and that giving an opinion on a subject you know nothing about is better than professing not having one.

- Tinfoil stops the governments mind control rays

Well, I have it on good authority that this one is true. It also protects you from alien abduction because they can't grab you with their beam if you have a tinfoil hat. :p

Though I will say this: by treating this thread of conversation as an actual argument worthy of debate, you've given me an undue advantage.
At first I thought you were joking, but I was burned a few times in my previous incarnation on this board. So I assumed the negative due to lack of smilies. I apologize for that. http://www.msu.edu/~mackertm/wotmania/images/angel.gif

My father had this happen to him. So you are saying, if I follow my original premise into your argument correctly, that it would be okay for my brother, sisters, and I to go after that teacher's son and demand compensation of some sort.

Yes. Yes I am.

I don't see how anyone except the persons receiving reparations in this scenario could agree with that logic.

Then free your mind!

In either case, I think you've set up a straw man here because you didn't address my original point. I said "ancestors" for a reason. I don't owe anyone a goddamned thing because Mexico lost California in a war 130 years before I was born. I don't owe anyone because my multi-great grand uncle owned slaves.

Maybe not, but you owe us lefties. So start paying.

Though I will say this: by treating this thread of conversation as an actual argument worthy of debate, you've given me an undue advantage.

Cabernet Sauvignon goes well with Ahi steaks.

I've stopped eating quality tuna...in fact all tuna.

Well, I have it on good authority that this one is true. It only works against the outdated EM-based mind control rays. Newer types just laser the mind control signal straight in through the eyes; you need special filtering sunglasses.

It also protects you from alien abduction because they can't grab you with their beam if you have a tinfoil hat. :pTrue, true, it takes them over fifty years to get here, so all their equipment is horribly outdated.

The people of Northern Ireland want to join the Republic of Ireland and are being oppressed by Great Britain (Americans seem to be particularly bad at this one, especially those with Irish heritage).


The Irish of Northern Ireland do, the Scottish and English are outvoting them though.

It only works against the outdated EM-based mind control rays. Newer types just laser the mind control signal straight in through the eyes; you need special filtering sunglasses.
Ahhh, I see. These sunglasses?
http://www.legendsofhorror.org/images/nada/tlimg8.jpg

I've stopped eating quality tuna...in fact all tuna.

Morbid curiousity: how come?

Morbid curiousity: how come?

nothing morbid...hell I've eaten some weird shit...its more that tuna ain't doing too well...and I like tuna too much to see it disappear completely.

nothing morbid...hell I've eaten some weird shit...its more that tuna ain't doing too well...and I like tuna too much to see it disappear completely.

Ah, gotcha. ;) I asked only because I know just one other person who won't eat tuna and he refused to tell me why. Knowing him, I had to assume it was sexual.

Which popular misconceptions, if any, do you find the most irritating? It can relate to science (evolution is "only" a theory), religion (Muslims are required to hate America), politics (too many to count), or even a common misunderstanding of something more trivial (it is wrong to end a sentence with a preposition).

Passing on the right on a shoulder is legal. Popular misconception that for some reason really chaps me arse more than most. :p

Ahhh, I see. These sunglasses?
http://www.legendsofhorror.org/images/nada/tlimg8.jpgHeh, yeah something like that. Although you have to be careful they cover your eyes entirely, so they can't beam something in from the side :p

(I remember seeing that movie, but I don't quite remember how/why those glasses worked, other than that they'd let you see the aliens for who they were)

(I remember seeing that movie, but I don't quite remember how/why those glasses worked, other than that they'd let you see the aliens for who they were)
I don't think they ever said how they worked -- just that they did.

The biggest source of irritation to me is the idea that you can cure yourself of depression by "lightening up" or "changing your attitude" or "getting a hold of yourself".

Others include:

The more educated you are, the more left-wing you become.

Any specific group, be it political, ideological, religious, or anything else, is evil.

If you are a so-called 'homophobe', it's because you're a closet gay in denial.

The inexistence of God/gods can be proven with logic.

Violent games and movies cause violent behaviour.

Maybe more later, when I have time.

The Iraq war was about oil.


"The Australian Defense Minister, Brendan Nelson has admitted that oil was a major factor in the government's decision to keep troops in Iraq, a unexpectedly frank confession that sent political commentators into a tizzy."

http://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/australasia/australian-troops-in-iraq-because-of-oil-456159.html

"The Australian Defense Minister, Brendan Nelson has admitted that oil was a major factor in the government's decision to keep troops in Iraq, a unexpectedly frank confession that sent political commentators into a tizzy."

http://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/australasia/australian-troops-in-iraq-because-of-oil-456159.html

tizzy?

That telling someone their opinion is wrong or stupid is somehow not respecting their right to form their own opinion.

A misconception that amuses me, however, is that butchers are exempt from jury duty on the grounds that they are desensitised to killing.

I have to agree with Fleckenstein
some STILL blame Germany for both wars

when caucasian, asians or middle easterns ask me about my accent, and i tell them im german, they ask actual questions about my country, but every time a black guy asks me, and i say german, they immediately say stupid things about WW2 - hence why I tell them im polish (my mothers side)

Ah, gotcha. ;) I asked only because I know just one other person who won't eat tuna and he refused to tell me why. Knowing him, I had to assume it was sexual.


LOL!!!

No no...strictly gastronomic interests.... ;)

Although I do remember stumbling across a website that dealt with human/Cetacean sexual wotsits...very fishy if you ask me.

Bisexual girls are really straight--they just think it's cool to be "bi". This one really irks me. I ran into so many "bi" girls/LUGs in college who only wanted to make out when they were wasted and a guy was watching. :(

I get annoyed at that too. There's nothing wrong with sexual experimentation, unless you're doing it to be cool.

http://imgs.xkcd.com/comics/monty_python.jpg

That was great. I hate people who do that fucking knight thing.

I don't think they ever said how they worked -- just that they did.

I would be very surprised to find out that they did. I doubt that that movie was intended for an intellectual target audience. Rowdy Roddy Piper FTW!

Misconceptions that currently annoy me:

Science is wholly and solely rational.
The USA intervened in Latin America to prevent Soviet intervention in the area.

Others include:

The more educated you are, the more left-wing you become.

Any specific group, be it political, ideological, religious, or anything else, is evil.

If you are a so-called 'homophobe', it's because you're a closet gay in denial.

The inexistence of God/gods can be proven with logic.

Violent games and movies cause violent behaviour.

Maybe more later, when I have time.

What do you have against gays?

Affirmative action means quotas.
Reparations for slavery have to do with a specific individual owing another specific individual something.
Men and women are obligated to act certain, distinct ways from each other.

But then something would indeed be ordering/governing society, and it would not be anarchy.Anarchists oppose the state (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/State), not the government. While all states (by that definition) are governments, not all governments are states.

Or in short, anarchy is "no rulers", not "no rules".

- Tinfoil stops the governments mind control rays

In reality, it amplifies them. I shit you not.

In reality, it amplifies them. I shit you not.

I'll tell you what works: Colloidal Silver.

In reality, it amplifies them. I shit you not.Aha! That's what they want you to think!

Misconceptions that currently annoy me:

Science is wholly and solely rational.Ah yes, that reminds me of another one (not, mind you, that I'm assuming you hold this one; yours just reminded me of it)
- Any measure of irrationality is always a bad thing.

As people like Lakatos and Latour have shown, science is not a completely rational undertaking, and it is all the better for it. Many successful theories would have been prematurely abandoned if people hadn't 'irrationally' held on those few years longer to develop it. For example, if memory serves me right, the early Copernican model of the solar system was not as accurate at predicting the paths of planets as the Ptolemaic one; it wasn't objectively better until it had the kinks worked out down the line.

Of course, a much simpler example of irrationality being occasionally a good things is love. (Which isn't to say it's always a good thing, especially when you come to your senses :p)

What do you have against gays?

I don't have anything against gays, and I didn't say that I do. It's just that many people do, and for very many of them, the reason lies somewhere in religion, social norms, upbringing, and/or general outlook on proper sexual behaviour. I suppose some people can oppose gays as a result of their insecurity of their own sexuality, but to claim that it is so for everybody seems to me like nothing but a lame strawman for the purpose of embarrassing those people into shutting up instead of debating with them properly.

If you were wondering about the way I said "so-called 'homophobes'", I did that because I think that the term 'homophobe' is just as stupid and loaded as the argument I mentioned above. 'Phobia' refers to fear, and I don't remember having ever met a gay-basher, who was actually afraid of gay people.



Anyway, I just remembered another annoying misconception: that all skinny people have an eating disorder.

Misconceptions that really annoy me:

Right Wing = Illiterate BNP racist Nazi.

The British Empire was worse than Hitler.

All Methodists are Dry.

All fat people are greedy.

All boys who like flower arranging, books about girls, romance, nice thoghts and hate football are very gay.

All Christians are Left Wing.

Gossiping boys are gay.

I will stop there so I don't rant on till the cows come home.

That gays are bad people.

That bisexuals are bad people.

That it is ok to kill people because of their race, sexual preference, intelligence, charisma or ideals.

That Hitler did not do great things. (He commisioned Volkswagon, rebuilt Germany and had the first German highway system built, which, if I remember correctly was the first highway system in the world.)

That all Germans are Nazis.

That most Russians are Communists.

That Communism is evil. (On paper, it is the best form of government, but human nature turns it into another name for dictatorship.)

That most Americans are evil.

That Christians want everybody else to follow their moral code. (I say as a Catholic, the world would be very boring without people who are not Catholic or Christian.)

That Catholics arent Christian.

That members of the Church of Latterday Saints arent Christian.

That most people who go to megachurches have a strong faith.

That most Born Again Christians have a strong faith.

That most Moslems are evil.

That Moslem is a derogatory term.

That most practitionars of an -ism are bad.

That soccer is not a sport.

That golf is a sport. (If the pros can drink beer when they play, it really isnt a sport.)

That colorblind people are faking it.

That banning guns will stop shootings.

That Fascism is not a good form of government.

That Bush is a good man and President. (If you play the religion card to get what you want then you're a prick.)

That America is a Democracy. (Sorry its a Republic)

That waterboarding is nescassary.

That if a woman has sex before marraige or with someone who is not her spouse she is a whore.

That its completely alright for a man to have sex outside of marraige or with someone who is not his spouse.

That abortion is not ok under any circumstance.

That only women and gay men paint.

That black is not a color.

That white is not a color.

That evolution is a fact. (ITS A THEORY, FOR GOD'S SAKE!)

That creationism is science.
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Sorry if I offend anybody, but those are my opinoins on misconceptions, not facts.

All Christians are Left Wing.

I have never encountered this one before.

I have never encountered this one before.

I've only come across it once or twice.

I've only come across it once or twice.

I would have expected the opposite, i.e. 'All Christian are right wing'. Given that (in America) the converse is probably true.

I would have expected the opposite, i.e. 'All Christian are right wing'. Given that (in America) the converse is probably true.

I'm in Britain, where the Christians are all liberal and gay-hugging.

You catch a cold if you go outside improperly dressed in the cold air.

Eight glasses of water a day.

Global warming is a myth.

Bible shouldn't be taken seriously because it's full of fairy tales and inconsistencies.

6-year-olds are stupid.

Religious people have no sense of humor.

You can't have fun without drinking your brains out.

That all men are evil, or all women are evil, hmm maybe they're aren't really..i dunno i just wanted to make a comment, i don't really see many misconceptions, well none i remember that well. Not that i care, or don't care, wait a minute how can i care and not care? moowom confusing or what? no wait that's a false dilemma too, damn it. Er what was i going to say? oh yeah, er i suppose that people on benefits are all lazy, that really get's at me.

The Borgias poisoned people.

Machiavelli was evil.

Humphrey Bogart said: "Play it, Sam."

Napoléon started most of the wars he fought.

Hillary Clinton is liberal.

Global warming is a myth.

Bible shouldn't be taken seriously because it's full of fairy tales and inconsistencies.

6-year-olds are stupid.

Religious people have no sense of humor.

You can't have fun without drinking your brains out.

Hmmm....

Misconceptions that really annoy me:

All boys who like flower arranging, books about girls, romance, nice thoghts and hate football are very gay.

That's the giveaway. Of course they are. Emotions are for gay people and women. The only feelings you and I are allowed to have is the feeling of sweet testosterone coursing through our veins. Or whatever the hell it does.

All Christians are Left Wing.

Where did this one come from?

I will stop there so I don't rant on till the cows come home.

Feel free. I think they're gonna be stuck in traffic a while.

Machiavelli was evil.

FWIW, he'd probably be Lawful Evil in DnD.

...Yeah, I'm gonna go now.

All of the above and a few besides.
The "My religion (and my interpretation of it) is the only one that's right, everybody else has it soooo wrong, because I say so" misconception always gets me going.

The "The USA won WWII" I really only find slightly ridiculous by now.

The "You owe your country ...(fill in whatever is required at the moment)" is even funnier.
Because you believe it yourself now, or because you have just become desensitized?

That Spain was part of Africa. It never was. Many people think that because the country was under Moorish dominion for almost 900 years, that that made it part of Africa. Wrong!

America is a country
hehehehehehehehe:p

"If only we ban guns, then these shootings wouldn't happen."

I agree that that's a misconception, but what I find more irritating is the opposite extreme: "if we make it easy for everyone to get a gun, then these shootings wouldn't happen (or the shooters would be quickly stopped)."

FWIW,

....

he'd probably be Lawful Evil in DnD.

Have you even read anything by him?

...Yeah, I'm gonna go now.

:sniper:

That sleeping with a virgin doesn't cure AIDs

Have you even read anything by him?

Not a lot, but I remember reading that Lord Vetinari is supposed to be somewhat based on him, and Vetinari just kinda seems like a LN/LE guy, y'know?

At the least I'm certain that he wasn't Lawful Good.

:sniper:

There's no call for that, we can settle this without violence you know. Otherwise I'll eat your dog.

Hillary Clinton is liberal.

Calling her a Commie is really starting to aggravate me, and I hate her.

That sleeping with a virgin doesn't cure AIDs

I suspect there's a typo here somewhere.......

I suspect there's a typo here somewhere.......

Another denier. How sad.

Not a lot, but I remember reading that Lord Vetinari is supposed to be somewhat based on him, and Vetinari just kinda seems like a LN/LE guy, y'know?

Iago was supposed to be based on him too; it is all trash. Read this: http://ebooks.adelaide.edu.au/m/machiavelli/niccolo/m149d/m149d.html

At the least I'm certain that he wasn't Lawful Good.

Just so.

There's no call for that, we can settle this without violence you know. Otherwise I'll eat your dog.

It had it coming. I would suggest some Italian dressing.

Fattie. Sounds like you need to work on that eating disorder a little harder.

An Australian size 12 is about Beyonce's size.
I'm in recovery, and not all eating disordered people are thin.

EDucate yourself.

However if you cut AND like Nirvana, you're pretty much emo by definition.

You realise Nirvana isn't "emo" music, right?

Here, I'd like you to meet my friend: http://en.wikipedia.org/

Maybe the eating disorder is making you sick.

Eating disorders do make you very sick, but I'm in recovery. Do you honestly think that every single misconception has to relate to me directly?

"like to count"? This guy likes to count:

There's nothing wrong with admitting a little OCD.

There's no such thing as "a little OCD". Obsessive Compulsive Disorder is a terrible mental illness.

Only if you let anybody find out.

Luckily for you, no one is going to make fun of you for being smart.

Come on, she was practically asking for it!

Yeh, that's what we all love to here from the main contributer in the "is rape ever justified" thread. :rolleyes:

That's totally cheating.

Yeh, totally. :rolleyes:

Anime is either for children or is XXX henti.

America is a country
hehehehehehehehe:p

Interesting fact/boast of the day: The collage I used to go to is more than 100 years older than America's independence. :)

Iago was supposed to be based on him too; it is all trash. Read this: http://ebooks.adelaide.edu.au/m/machiavelli/niccolo/m149d/m149d.html


I would suggest you watch your tone, lest someone construe that as a criticism of Discworld.

Anyway, I will read that later on when I have some time. Maybe in chunks...

...Yeah. Definitely in chunks.

Just so.

Wait, are you saying that I'm right, or that he [I]was Lawful Good?

It had it coming. I would suggest some Italian dressing.

I imagined that going a bit differently, to be honest.

You realise Nirvana isn't "emo" music, right?It's proto-emo. Purists may disagree with me, but they're missing the forest for the trees.

Do you honestly think that every single misconception has to relate to me directly?Yes.

There's no such thing as "a little OCD". Obsessive Compulsive Disorder is a terrible mental illness.I think people exhibit varying degrees of obsessive-compulsive behavior.

Luckily for you, no one is going to make fun of you for being smart.I don't get it...HAY WAIT A MINUITE

That soccer is not a sport.


But it isn't a sport; it's just a strange word that Americans say when they are talking about European/world football.

Another denier. How sad.

Err. What?

That all politicians are corrupt/lazy/selfish/etc

Which popular misconceptions, if any, do you find the most irritating?

That something "must be true, because it was on TV".

That something "must be true, because it was in the paper".

That something "can't be true, or it would have been on TV", or "can't be true, or it would have been in the paper".

Et cetera.

It's proto-emo.

Actually, it's grunge.

Purists may disagree with me, but they're missing the forest for the trees.

Or they just think that you're way off-base. It's not that I don't think Nirvana is emo enough to qualify, it's just that I think you're on another planet completely.

I think people exhibit varying degrees of obsessive-compulsive behavior.

I think I agree with this a bit. I doubt very much that OCD is an on-off thing; either you have it or you don't exactly the same. There's definitely different levels of severity within the disorder itself. Still, probably not real fun to have. My sympathies to anyone who suffers from it.

I think people exhibit varying degrees of obsessive-compulsive behavior.

What you "think" may seem to you to be cute or clever, but Obsessive -Compulsive Disorder is a serious disorder defined by the DSM-IV (http://www.behavenet.com/capsules/disorders/o-cd.htm).

Just being sometimes obsessive or compulsive does not qualify as OCD.

Actually, it's grunge.Yes, grunge is proto-emo, especially in terms of its audience and cultural and emotional role.

What you "think" may seem to you to be cute or clever, but Obsessive -Compulsive Disorder is a serious disorder defined by the DSM-IV (http://www.behavenet.com/capsules/disorders/o-cd.htm).

Just being sometimes obsessive or compulsive does not qualify as OCD.

You sound as if it's black and white as you can only be very very OCD or not OCD at all. Mental conditions do not come with blue-prints, only observations.

Yes, grunge is proto-emo, especially in terms of its audience and cultural and emotional role.

I can't say I really agree with that assessment. It's also worth noting that I've actually not heard that comparison before.

I can't say I really agree with that assessment. It's also worth noting that I've actually not heard that comparison before.That's because I made it up on the spot for the sake of defending my previous post.

It's my understanding that they both have roots in hardcore/punk, apply a simple pop songwriting format, and appealed to similar emotions in the angsty teens of their respective time periods. I don't think it's a stretch to say that the latter is the successor to the former.

Yes, grunge is proto-emo, especially in terms of its audience and cultural and emotional role.

Except Grunge is good...well, some

You sound as if it's black and white as you can only be very very OCD or not OCD at all. Mental conditions do not come with blue-prints, only observations.

OCD can be more or less severe, but a certain level of dysfunction is required to meet the base criteria. Otherwise it isn't OCD.

Rather, we should look at the number of divorces relative to the total amount of married people, and in that case, the stats may have moved up or down since I last checked, but you're about 98% likely to be married on Dec. 31 of a year if you were married on Jan. 1 of a given year.

Should we apply this same reasoning to death? :)

Foreign immigrants will destroy, displace, or take over our native culture and language -- especially used by Americans when referring to East Asians and Hispanics, and by Europeans when referring to South Asians and Muslims.

Of course, that isn't a misconception, as the ruling cultures in practically every state have done just that at some point in the past. But they usually established their rule through military, technological, and economic superiority, whereas immigrants do not generally arrive galloping across the dusty plains in powered armour suits, wielding their plasma cannons aloft as their dissonant ululations fall upon the terror-stricken ears of the gatekeepers.

I dislike the "half of all marriages end in divorce" trope. It was and is founded in complete innumeracy of reporters: they took it from the fact that the number of marriages in one particular year was twice as much as the number of divorces. Those of course are completely different figures, and one has very little bearing on the other since very few people divorce the same year they marry. Rather, we should look at the number of divorces relative to the total amount of married people, and in that case, the stats may have moved up or down since I last checked, but you're about 98% likely to be married on Dec. 31 of a year if you were married on Jan. 1 of a given year.

That's because I made it up on the spot for the sake of defending my previous post.

It's my understanding that they both have roots in hardcore/punk, apply a simple pop songwriting format, and appealed to similar emotions in the angsty teens of their respective time periods. I don't think it's a stretch to say that the latter is the successor to the former.

Apparently I'm an emo kid. Go figure. :D

That's because I made it up on the spot for the sake of defending my previous post.

It's my understanding that they both have roots in hardcore/punk, apply a simple pop songwriting format, and appealed to similar emotions in the angsty teens of their respective time periods. I don't think it's a stretch to say that the latter is the successor to the former.

I think your understanding is off by just a smidgen. Grunge is a type of Alternative Rock that came from my hometown of Seattle in the 80s. It fused hardcore punk, metal and indie. There's usually some distorted guitars and there's angst/apathetic-filled lyrics from time to time.

Emo is a bit harder to nail down since it has had several definitions. Right now it's just a vague identifier to music that has a certain kinda sound.

There are, of course, some similarities. Still, there are some key differences as well. The big one is that Grunge dressed down. Less aesthetic in the songs, very unkempt clothing and light on the theatrics. Emo, on the other hand, has a reputation at times for being the other way. That is, brand name clothing from Hot Topic and very dramatic/whiny.

That Americans dont know anything.

Americans even enjoy prepetuating this sad, inaccurate stereotype.

I honestly think there are very few bisexuals and those who claim to be are often trying to "legitimize" their homosexuality or have no luck with what nature tells them. Not all claimed bisexuals, but the majority.

I was in a poly relationship with a man and a woman for three years, I guess that makes me indecisive?:confused:

Dermund;13513149']-There are Americans who are good people.

-Racism is okay if it is directed at the "evil white man".
But national predudices are fine and dandy. Pot, meet kettle.

That an opinion you disagree with is a misconception. (Plenty of examples of that in here.)
I've been wating all day to get online to post that sentiment and now I find I've been beaten to it.

-Women can do the same work men can.
-Africa would have been better without the slave trade.
-Homosexuality is not a choice.
-Cuba isn't a filthy brown hell-hole.
-There is no God.
-Affirmative Action isn't racist.
-The KKK isn't a knitting klub.

That evolution is a fact. (ITS A THEORY, FOR GOD'S SAKE!)
You seem to have confused the word "theory" with the word "hypothesis." From The American Heritage Dictionary:

American Heritage Dictionary - Cite This Source - Share This the·o·ry (thē'ə-rē, thîr'ē) Pronunciation Key
n. pl. the·o·ries


A set of statements or principles devised to explain a group of facts or phenomena, especially one that has been repeatedly tested or is widely accepted and can be used to make predictions about natural phenomena.
The branch of a science or art consisting of its explanatory statements, accepted principles, and methods of analysis, as opposed to practice: a fine musician who had never studied theory.
A set of theorems that constitute a systematic view of a branch of mathematics.
Abstract reasoning; speculation: a decision based on experience rather than theory.
A belief or principle that guides action or assists comprehension or judgment: staked out the house on the theory that criminals usually return to the scene of the crime.
An assumption based on limited information or knowledge; a conjecture.

That Japan is this mysterious land that's just like what you see in anime.

If you're American, you can come to Japan and get a beautiful girlfriend, in fact they'll be lined up at Narita waiting for you to come off the plane and taker her to a love hotel.

Sushi contains raw fish.

Damn... most of the good stuffs already been mentioned so this is all I have left.

Ah well.

-Women can do the same work men can.There are always going to be women that can do the same work men can unless it requires an organic penis. If you compare your typical rural woman to your typical urban or suburban man, guess who is going to be able to do more real work?

-Africa would have been better without the slave trade.Of course it would have. I'm assuming you're talking about the European-sponsored slave export trade specifically. Everything that's more bad about Africa than other third world locales is a direct result colonialism, post-colonialism, and cultural imperialism in general. They delivered the means, and in some respects the motive and opportunity for genocides and such to happen.
-Homosexuality is not a choice.Is heterosexuality?
-Cuba isn't a filthy brown hell-hole.
http://maps.google.com/maps?q=cuba&ie=UTF8&oe=utf-8&client=firefox-a&ll=21.769703,-79.804687&spn=4.773752,11.074219&t=h&z=7
In fact, it's mostly green.
If you want to see a filthy brown hell-hole, look no farther than your mom's rump.
-There is no God.It's a fact that there is no god. All definitions of God are either meaningless or contradictory.
-The KKK isn't a knitting klub.I don't think they sew their own robes, but I'm not sure.

-snip reaction-
*pats you on the back reassuringly*
I jest.

I'm practicing my trolling for when I don't make it as a comedian.

That evolution is a fact. (ITS A THEORY, FOR GOD'S SAKE!)




Hey, this is another one. I am irritated that people dont know the difference between a scientific theory and an every day theory.

Hey, this is another one. I am irritated that people dont know the difference between a scientific theory and an every day theory.

Me too, that's why I put up the definition.

"The Australian Defense Minister, Brendan Nelson has admitted that oil was a major factor in the government's decision to keep troops in Iraq, a unexpectedly frank confession that sent political commentators into a tizzy."

http://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/australasia/australian-troops-in-iraq-because-of-oil-456159.html

Wanna know something interesting? That man is now leader of the opposition.

Actually, I think that counts as a misconception that irritates me. That Brendan Nelson could ever, ever, EVER unite the country as its Prime Minister. Luckily, I don't think many people really believe that, judging by his recent approval ratings... (His approval ratings and the national Interest Rate are about the same.. 7%... :p)

Oh, and all the rest of the ones that irritate me have been mentioned, so thats that.

That the 2nd ammendment causes crime and that all members of the Catholic clergy are just in for money or are kid touchers.

It's okay to touch someone's hair because it's long/afro.

Or to touch someone's tattoo.

All eating disordered people are anorexic.
Bulimics are lazy.

Seeeriously. Like there isn't enough shame already... now I'm not even good enough at being disordered!

Which is all extremely annoying for an actual bisexual, for the record. I learned this the hard way in college. 99% of the girls who claimed to be bisexual turned out to just be kissing me so the guys would think they were hot and wild. Which is a very, very shitty thing to do, not to mention pathetic.

Amen. Kissing a girl after a couple of shots doesn't make you bi. My college experience was so similar. It gets to the point where it's like, "Are you going to take your clothes off or what?" Only that sounds really shallow.

Every last one is a monster!

Raar. Are there any puppies around to kick? *oppresses*

"I have the right to [insert random freedom here] because of the Constitution."

Uh, no, you don't. You have the right to it regardless of what the piece of paper says. It annoys me to no end when people act as if the supposedly magical piece of paper gives them rights, and that without it, people would have no rights whatsoever. Everyone has certain rights, regardless of what bureaucrats, the state, or an overrated sheet of paper says.

It gets to the point where it's like, "Are you going to take your clothes off or what?" Only that sounds really shallow.
Well if us guys can get away with that sometimes... ;)

"You cannot be moral without believing in some kind of god"
"Evolution is just a theory, hence it's equal to intelligent design"
"Teh kommiez eat babiez"
"Italy was ruled by the commies for 50 years" (really! Berlusconi, aka the Presidens Ridens, says that... and some people believe him!)
"Germany is a socialist country"

Because you believe it yourself now, or because you have just become desensitized?

Desensitized.

1. The misconception that due to earthquakes, California is going to fall into the sea.

Goddamn, people, plate tectonics don't fucking work that way. First of all, it's not even a subduction fault (the kind of fault where one plate is going underneath another), it's a transform fault, the plates are just sliding past each other horizontally. Secondly, continental crust is never subducted, only ocean plates go under.

2. The idea held by many easterners I've talked to that LA and San Francisco are right next to each other or close in any way.

They're about 400 miles apart. It's a 6-8 hour drive if you go on the road that's incredibly fast but boring. If you want to take a route with more to look at than hours of crop fields, it takes 10-12 hours.

2B. That San Francisco has a similar climate to LA, that is, hot and sunny and never cloudy or rainy.

No. This is dumb. As I pointed out in #2, there is a very large distance between the two. San Francisco is significantly cooler than LA and gets quite a bit more rain and very commonly has fog. It seems entirely logical that the climate would change a bit between two points so far apart.

3. When people think that because you are religious, you're automatically a homophobic, misogynistic, creationist Christian fundamentalist.

They don't have a monopoly on the whole religion thing. I can be religious and think gay people should be able to marry their partner (my church even performs ceremonies for same-sex couples), that women and men are equal and accept the evidence for the theory of evolution.

3. When people think that because you are religious, you're automatically a homophobic, misogynistic, creationist Christian fundamentalist.
That.
Also, that during the second world war Polish cavalry charged the German tanks with lances. :rolleyes:

It's proto-emo. Purists may disagree with me, but they're missing the forest for the trees.

No, it's not. It's not about being purist, it's about being right. "Emo" or emotional music is a relatively knew genre and applies to bands like Evenescence, but "emo" isn't the only label applied to emo bands. For example, Good Charlotte has been described as "emo", but is also modern pop-punk. Music genres are complicated, and similarly to film, a band can come from a certain "genre" but still utilise a "style" that belongs to another "genre". Nirvana is known as "Grunge", but Nirvana themselves disagreed with that title. They were heavily influenced by punk. Read Heavier Than Heaven, and the Kurt Cobain Journals.

Yes.

How intelligent of you.

I think people exhibit varying degrees of obsessive-compulsive behavior.

Obsessive or compulsive behaviour do not constitute a disorder.
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That all politicians are corrupt/lazy/selfish/etc

I hate that misconception as well.

Yes, grunge is proto-emo, especially in terms of its audience and cultural and emotional role.

Well, no, it's not.

What you "think" may seem to you to be cute or clever, but Obsessive -Compulsive Disorder is a serious disorder defined by the DSM-IV (http://www.behavenet.com/capsules/disorders/o-cd.htm).

Just being sometimes obsessive or compulsive does not qualify as OCD.

I'm starting to like you.

You sound as if it's black and white as you can only be very very OCD or not OCD at all. Mental conditions do not come with blue-prints, only observations.

Mental illness includes a widespread range of problems, including behavioural, mood, personality, cognition and more. There are many things you may need to seek treatment for, and many of these don't have "names". However, Obsessive Compulsive Disorder is a specific illness, with certain elements required for diagnosis. Someone may have obsessive or compulsive behaviours, but if it does not fit the critera, it is not OCD.

I have been diagnosed with specific mental illnesses, however I also have other problems that don't have a specific "name". Someone can have an obsession with dieting, but it may not classify as an Eating Disorder. Someone may have volitile mood swings that affect every single day of their life (like me) but it's not necessarily Bi-polar.

OCD can be more or less severe, but a certain level of dysfunction is required to meet the base criteria. Otherwise it isn't OCD.

*nods*

-Women can do the same work men can.
-Africa would have been better without the slave trade.
-Homosexuality is not a choice.
-Cuba isn't a filthy brown hell-hole.
-There is no God.
-Affirmative Action isn't racist.
-The KKK isn't a knitting klub.

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Amen. Kissing a girl after a couple of shots doesn't make you bi. My college experience was so similar. It gets to the point where it's like, "Are you going to take your clothes off or what?" Only that sounds really shallow.

I don't think someone's really bisexual unless they could fall in love (or at least have a relationship with) with someone of both sexes. I've kissed girls, and I'm very open minded, but there's no way I consider myself bisexual, because, quite frankly, I love men.

That evolution is a fact. (ITS A THEORY, FOR GOD'S SAKE!)

Just so you know, you're wrong about this.

Evolution is both a fact and a theory.

It is a fact that evolution occurs. This is as much a fact in the science world as the fact that things get wet when it rains. Evolution DOES occur, it has been observed, and it is considered fact.

The theory of evolution via natural selection is, as you say, a scientific theory. It is one model to explain how/why evolution occurs.

That Americans dont know anything.

Americans even enjoy prepetuating this sad, inaccurate stereotype.

But this is not a misconception. Americans don't know anything. This (http://www.yesbutnobutyes.com/archives/2007/01/why_people_thin.html) proves it.:D

Everyone has certain rights, regardless of what bureaucrats, the state, or an overrated sheet of paper says.
The misconception of what a misconception is, is really bugging me. No-one has certain rights.
Example: I walk up to you with an aussalt rifle and kill you. I don't believe you have a right to life. You are dead now, so I think I may have a point. But then, someone who has been put in place by a bureaucrat hauls my ass to jail. He has protected your right. A bit late, but the intention is there.

Without that copper to protect your rights, you have none. The only right you have, is the right to be the toughest person on the block, so you can protect yourself.

That most people used to believe that the earth was flat.

I have long hair and so I must only listen to heavy metal!

"Environmental and animal rights activists are Nazis."

To my knowledge, Nazism was based on stamping out life forms (in Hitler's case, human ethnic groups) that were considered different and inferior to the holders of said philosophy. Going by that criterion, environmentalism (i.e. preservation of biodiversity) and the animal rights movement are exactly the opposite of Nazism.

Misconceptions about my religion are at the top.

But it's worth noting that simply expressing a misconception doesn't annoy me. What annoys me is when I attempt to set the record straight and the response is something to the tune of 'nuh-uh I kno wut u believe and it's...' and they go on to repeat the false statement.

It's not bullying if we do it.

It's not fascism if we do it.

It's not racism if we do it.

It's not abuse if we do it.

It's not torture if we do it.

It's not evil if we do it.

that sort of thing bothers me...

All poor people are lazy bastards who live solely on welfare. Eats me up every time!

All poor people are lazy bastards who live solely on welfare. Eats me up every time!
Exactly! Anti-welfarists say that poor people are poor because they don't work, as if their jobs paid well or something.

Oh, another one. Southerners we're/are racists and Northerners weren't/aren't. This seems to come up with the Civil War.

That real life martial arts is the same as in the movies.

Brits, don't kill me!:eek:

Misconception: All Brits have bad teeth.

All Christians want to kill all Muslims (yes, that is probably a Norfolkism).

Brits, don't kill me!:eek:

Misconception: All Brits have bad teeth.

*breathes toxic residue from lack of brushing all over Nanatsu*

*breathes toxic residue from lack of brushing all over Nanatsu*

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Some misconceptions that annoy me:
"Dubya is not the worst president we've ever had."
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This is not true does anyone remember Jimmy Carter?

This is not true does anyone remember Jimmy Carter?

Heh, we was pretty bad. Still, he did not rake-up the dept the Dubya did.

That real life martial arts is the same as in the movies.

I think that goes for any sport really

I think that goes for any sport really

Especially fencing. The only realistic dueling movie I have ever seen would be The Duellists.

This is not true does anyone remember Jimmy Carter?

George W. Bush. Need I say more?

You sound as if it's black and white as you can only be very very OCD or not OCD at all. Mental conditions do not come with blue-prints, only observations.

But if it's not having harmful consequences on someone's life, is it a disorder?

America is the most advanced nation in the world.
Your vote actually means something.
Southerners(espicially Texans) are nothing but gun-toting, bible thumping conservatives.
Western Society is superior to all others.
Religion is required for morality.
If you don't believe in a god then you must be evil.
Writing poetry is only for gays and women.
Enjoying reading means you have no social life.
Video games cause violent behavior. (I play all sorts of violent video games and I'm the most non-violent person I know)
Women who think are inhierently dangerous to modern society.
Footy is a sport played by those who can't handle gridiron.
Hockey is not entertaining.
Baseball is entertaining.
The world revolves around what happens in America.
Men are void of emotion.
The Koran mandates the destruction of all non-Muslims.
Chinese is the same thing as Japanese or any other Oriental country.
There is only one English language.
America is void of culture.
Homosexuality is a choice. (Though I'm not gay, I've had a few friends who were, and through their expierences, I know this to be false)
Christian values and morals are the best in the world.
Communism is an evil form of government.
Poverty is caused by an unwillingness to work.
Art, music, and PE are not important classes children should have.
Advancing technology results in better standard of life.
X country is superior to Y county for [insert irrational reason here].
Listening to any form of rock corrupts your character.
People are inhierently evil.
Chivalry is dead.
War is a neccassary evil.
The ends justify the means.
Lying to protect someone/yourself is better than telling the truth.
Either gender is superior to the other.
Increasing gun availbilty/banning guns will cause less shootings.
Crying is a sign of weakness.

that's all I can think of for now.

X is illegal, therefore it is bad. X is legal, therefore it is good.

"I have the right to [insert random freedom here] because of the Constitution."

Uh, no, you don't. You have the right to it regardless of what the piece of paper says. It annoys me to no end when people act as if the supposedly magical piece of paper gives them rights, and that without it, people would have no rights whatsoever. Everyone has certain rights, regardless of what bureaucrats, the state, or an overrated sheet of paper says.Don't be silly. Rights are legal constructs.

X is illegal, therefore it is bad. X is legal, therefore it is good.

Don't be silly. Rights are legal constructs.

Satan, n. One of the Creator's lamentable mistakes, repented in sashcloth and axes. Being instated as an archangel, Satan made himself multifariously objectionable and was finally expelled from Heaven. Halfway in his descent he paused, bent his head in thought a moment and at last went back. "There is one favor that I should like to ask," said he.

"Name it."

"Man, I understand, is about to be created. He will need laws."

"What, wretch! you his appointed adversary, charged from the dawn of eternity with hatred of his soul — you ask for the right to make his laws?"

"Pardon; what I have to ask is that he be permitted to make them himself."

It was so ordered.

-The Devil's Dictionary.

Anyone who says "We're better than the Nazis" then talks about destroying Israel is allowed to speak.

There are always going to be women that can do the same work men can unless it requires an organic penis. If you compare your typical rural woman to your typical urban or suburban man, guess who is going to be able to do more real work?
Penises give you magical powers. Duh!

Is heterosexuality?
Of course.

Or to touch someone's tattoo.
Unless you are flirting with them.


"I have the right to [insert random freedom here] because of the Constitution."

Uh, no, you don't. You have the right to it regardless of what the piece of paper says. It annoys me to no end when people act as if the supposedly magical piece of paper gives them rights, and that without it, people would have no rights whatsoever. Everyone has certain rights, regardless of what bureaucrats, the state, or an overrated sheet of paper says.
I have the right to trial by jury because of the US Constitution. Actually, yes I do. Please explain how I have that right regardless of what the constitution says. Also, you might want to explain your philosopy to those folks that were hauled off in Russia for protesting the election they just had. If they had the right to free speech and assembly, why were they so brutally dragged off by the police?

3. When people think that because you are religious, you're automatically a homophobic, misogynistic, creationist Christian fundamentalist.

They don't have a monopoly on the whole religion thing. I can be religious and think gay people should be able to marry their partner (my church even performs ceremonies for same-sex couples), that women and men are equal and accept the evidence for the theory of evolution.
When I went back to being Christian the most common question I was asked was "what can't you do now?" A friend converted a year before I did and I heard other people at work saying things like "he still drinks, and I think he has a girlfriend, how can he be Christian?" And I know they say that about me now. Err... I didn't sign up to be a nun?

Lying to protect someone/yourself is better than telling the truth.

I agree with most of that except this one. Telling the truth is not always the best thing to do.

But if it's not having harmful consequences on someone's life, is it a disorder?
Broadly speaking, no.

If you want to go with the most general definition of a mental disorder, then it is a mental illness or condition that is impairing a person's capacity to function normally and/or safely.

In other words, if it's not impairing you, it's not a disorder.

Penises give you magical powers. Duh!

People are still wondering how there are women Power-Rangers. Do they carry shrunken--er, never mind....

I agree with most of that except this one. Telling the truth is not always the best thing to do.

http://www.constitution.org/mac/prince18.htm

People are still wondering how there are women Power-Rangers. Do they carry shrunken--er, never mind....

More of a time share arrangement (http://youtube.com/watch?v=zg5TSbE7K2I).

The USA was in time in both World Wars and was never bad.

More of a time share arrangement (http://youtube.com/watch?v=zg5TSbE7K2I).

*uneasy laugh* I am not following that link.... Power-porn?

The USA was in time in both World Wars and was never bad.

Again: kindness, n. A brief preface to ten volumes of exaction.

-The Devil's Dictionary.

That 9/11 was done by Bin Laden.

For anybody who read my first post, I meant hypothesis, not theory.

And here's some more!
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World of Warcraft is the best online game and if you dont like it, your an idiot.

The German's started WWI. (It started with Napoleon.)

The Rio Grande is only in Mexico.

Bats are bugs.

The Tau are space Communists.

Happy Tree Friends is funny. (Its gross AND funny!)

That 9/11 was done by Bin Laden.

As far as I know, Bin Laden didn't fly the planes that crashed into the WTC nor into the Pentagon, but wasn't he the one who issued the orders to do so? In my book, he was responsible for 9/11.

Irritating Misconceptions:

If you collect medieval weaponry and armour, you're obviously a nut who likes to hurt people, even if you are a legitimate student of history, and a reenactor.


Historical reenactors are a bunch of nerdy, virgin, men who like to dress up as elves.

REAL swords weighed 20 pounds/armour weighed 100 lbs - I seriously hate this. If you ever saw a 20lb slab of steel, it would become painfully obvious that there is no way in hell that a sword could be made out of it without losing 17lbs of material.

Learning about history is useless, because it can't teach you anything about living in today's world.

Any statement that begins with "Everyone knows".- Seriously. Is everyone a fuckwit then? Don't tell me the answer, I already know what it is.:rolleyes:


Edit: More-

Every movie that has a historical setting is an accurate portrayal of how life was back then.

The bible was originally written in English.

The Romans were "teh evil" because they killed Jesus.

Medieval people did things by hand, because they were stupid.

I have many more, but it would just bore people...

For anybody who read my first post, I meant hypothesis, not theory.

And here's some more!
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World of Warcraft is the best online game and if you dont like it, your an idiot.

The game stinks.


The German's started WWI. (It started with Napoleon.)

Actually, it did not.


The Rio Grande is only in Mexico.

Hm.

Bats are bugs.

The Tau are space Communists.

Happy Tree Friends is funny. (Its gross AND funny!)

I am not sure the above are popular misconceptions.

The Romans were "teh evil" because they killed Jesus.

Of course, everyone knows the Jews killed Jesus, followed by them poisoning wells and controlling the world economy.

If you criticize Islamic attempts to mold Western secular society, you're an Islamophobe

If you are an atheist, you're somehow not human...

If you are an atheist, you're somehow not human...

Everyone knows that you're just less human than other people, and clearly you are an islamaphobe who helped Bin Laden carry out 9/11.

RhynoDD;13516183']Everyone knows that you're just less human than other people, and clearly you are an islamaphobe who helped Bin Laden carry out 9/11.

And you're a medieval peasant who still craps in his chamberpot at night...;)

And you're a medieval peasant who still craps in his chamberpot at night...;)

Wiping is the tricky part. Parchment chafes.

Click Stand;13516205']Of course, everyone knows the Jews killed Jesus, followed by them poisoning wells and controlling the world economy.

The jews must be gay muslims.

Bats are bugs.


Outside of Calvin and Hobbes, I don't think this is a common misconception.

Come to think of it, it wasn't a common misconception there, either; only Calvin thought it.

I agree with most of that except this one. Telling the truth is not always the best thing to do.

I disagree. In the long run, telling the truth is ideal. Any lie, even a white one, allows the liar to assume what is best for the person being lied to. That is at best, arrogant, and at worst, harmful.

I disagree. In the long run, telling the truth is ideal. Any lie, even a white one, allows the liar to assume what is best for the person being lied to. That is at best, arrogant, and at worst, harmful.

That said, everyone has lied.

I disagree. In the long run, telling the truth is ideal. Any lie, even a white one, allows the liar to assume what is best for the person being lied to. That is at best, arrogant, and at worst, harmful.

Sometimes one does know best. That's not neccessarily arrogant.

That said, everyone has lied.
True. I certainly don't claim to practice that, but that doesn't stop me from preaching.

*uneasy laugh* I am not following that link.... Power-porn?

YouTube is safe... Mostly... Except at night...

That people on youtube are all teenagers who mime cheesy pop songs.

When I went back to being Christian the most common question I was asked was "what can't you do now?" A friend converted a year before I did and I heard other people at work saying things like "he still drinks, and I think he has a girlfriend, how can he be Christian?" And I know they say that about me now. Err... I didn't sign up to be a nun?

I wasn't saying all Christians were such, just that when one says that one's religious, people automatically seem to assume that one hates gays, thinks women should be barefoot, pregnant and in the kitchen, that abortion is teh ebil, and that anyone who doesn't believe in Jesus is going to burn in hell. When the truth is that not even all Christians believe that, let alone everyone who is religious.

Without that copper to protect your rights, you have none.

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That all Mexicans are lazy.
It´s not true, my fiance works very hard and so does his family.

The misconception of what a misconception is, is really bugging me. No-one has certain rights.
Example: I walk up to you with an aussalt rifle and kill you. I don't believe you have a right to life. You are dead now, so I think I may have a point. But then, someone who has been put in place by a bureaucrat hauls my ass to jail. He has protected your right. A bit late, but the intention is there.

Without that copper to protect your rights, you have none. The only right you have, is the right to be the toughest person on the block, so you can protect yourself.

Same idea as "a country has the right to do whatever it says it can, provided it has the power to enforce it."

I disagree. In the long run, telling the truth is ideal. Any lie, even a white one, allows the liar to assume what is best for the person being lied to. That is at best, arrogant, and at worst, harmful.

What about the people who harbored Jews in their houses and lied about it to protect them? Oh, and sorry for Godwinning.

I wasn't saying all Christians were such, just that when one says that one's religious, people automatically seem to assume that one hates gays, thinks women should be barefoot, pregnant and in the kitchen, that abortion is teh ebil, and that anyone who doesn't believe in Jesus is going to burn in hell. When the truth is that not even all Christians believe that, let alone everyone who is religious.

Oh, I know. I was agreeing and adding on. Unfortuatnely I'm still a bit out of sorts so I didn't express that clearly.

NIETHER IS BUTT-SEXING,. GAYWAD
Well it should be! Then gay people could get medals. Only they would be gay rainbow medals and everyone would laugh at them for having them.

I hate this. And then they ask you after they start touching it. Then they assume you're being sarcastic when you say "no". I think I'm going to hit the next person who touches my hair. Unless they're hot.
You know you want to hit that.

Fattie. Sounds like you need to work on that eating disorder a little harder.
Depends on which one. It's difficult to work harder on not eating.

However if you cut AND like Nirvana, you're pretty much emo by definition.
The blood makes the pain go away. The music gives you a beat to cut to.

Maybe the eating disorder is making you sick.
The good news is that if it's bulimia, this will make it easier to work harder on it.

"like to count"? This guy likes to count:
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/9/96/Countvoncount.jpg
There's nothing wrong with admitting a little OCD.
One bottle of soap, ha ha ha!
Two bottles of soap, ha ha ha!
Three bottles of soap, ha ha ha!
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If you ask me, they aren't lazy, they're just smart enough to milk the system.
Those retarded guys are really clever.

Only if they're paid.
Or your ex-girlfriend. Or you don't like them.

Only if you let anybody find out.
Revenge of the Nerds was on last night. It made me happy.

Come on, she was practically asking for it!
The kicking and screaming just means she's kinky.

That all Mexicans are lazy.
It´s not true, my fiance works very hard and so does his family.

My experience is the inverse is true. Mexicans are some of the hardest working folks I know.

that england is coextensive with great britain. that jersey is english. that i'm talking about new jersey when i say jersey.