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Singer Bjork yelled out "Tibet, Tibet" at a concert in Shanghai before singing a song called "Declare Independence". Needless to say, the Chinese government is peeved...

Talk of Tibetan independence is considered taboo in China, which has ruled the territory since 1951.

China's culture ministry said the outburst "broke Chinese law and hurt Chinese people's feelings" and pledged to "further tighten controls".

lolz...anyway the Chinese said that now they're gonna do this...

"We will further tighten controls on foreign artists performing in China in order to prevent similar cases from happening in the future," the ministry said in a statement on its website.

"We shall never tolerate any attempt to separate Tibet from China and will no longer welcome any artists who deliberately do this."

A spokeswoman from the culture ministry told the AFP news agency Bjork could be banned from performing in China if there was a repeat performance.

"If Bjork continued to behave like that in the future, we may consider never allowing her to perform in China," she said.

Her behaviour at Sunday's Shanghai concert has not been reported in the state-controlled Chinese media.

Would they have preferred, 'Taiwan! Taiwan!' ?

never hear about Bjork before, is he good?

never hear about Bjork before, is he good?

She's Icelandic.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bjork

never hear about Bjork before, is he good?

lolz...Bjork is a woman, I've never listened to her music but I know of her

never hear about Bjork before, is he good?

She has her moments.

http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=FPyTgmC3nQQ

You may recognize this from the early 90's.

I like Bjork's music, especially her work with the Sugarcubes and her solo albums from Homogenic to last year's Volta. She is pretty mental though, but so are most of the best artists.

If anything is to happen I want to see Tibet gain independance. Shove it in the faces of that damned Chinese government. They will go to war and we are seriously going to screw up the Chinese military when we join in. No more games on China vs. U.S. anymore.And we have a new military base in Chinas side. I am liking this.

Oh please everyone knows that LG is the true ruler of China, men/women look at how crazy it can be at times. For God's sake only LG can come up with something like the Death Mobile.

http://www.usatoday.com/news/world/2006-06-14-death-van_x.htm

As well, if that is not enough look at how luny some of their leaders are. Methinks LG has a secret brainwashing camp somewhere where he makes various Chinese leaders into his luny zombie, slave, things.

If anything is to happen I want to see Tibet gain independance. Shove it in the faces of that damned Chinese government. They will go to war and we are seriously going to screw up the Chinese military when we join in. No more games on China vs. U.S. anymore.And we have a new military base in Chinas side. I am liking this.

Millions dead to prove a point about Tibet? You have any idea what real war is like? Doubt you do you would not be so cavalier about it.

Oh please everyone knows that LG is the true ruler of China, men/women look at how crazy it can be at times. For God's sake only LG can come up with something like the Death Mobile.

http://www.usatoday.com/news/world/2006-06-14-death-van_x.htm

As well, if that is not enough look at how luny some of their leaders are. Methinks LG has a secret brainwashing camp somewhere where he makes various Chinese leaders into his luny zombie, slave, things.

The switch from gunshots to injections is a sign that China "promotes human rights now," says Kang Zhongwen

Classic....

Did read how they put to death four times as many prisoners as all the other worlds nations combined. The US still gets criticized for the death penalty.

Bjork is just like every other celebrity activist. A complete idiot. I doubt she knows anything about Tibet, except that it's a trendy subject. Tibet is fucked. The Chinese did a great job of doing what the Mexicans are doing in the Southwest. It's only a matter of time before they want "ethnic" independence, just like the squatters in Kosovo that we shamefully helped.

All organizers should ban political messages from concerts. Just like they should ban the pledge from sporting events and schools. It's just so stupid and out of place.

Chinese Death Vans
Promoting human rights wherever the road takes them

Scary? What's China actually going to do? Threaten her and do nothing about it?

Oh deary me....

Scary? What's China actually going to do? Threaten her and do nothing about it?

Oh deary me....


"If Bjork continued to behave like that in the future, we may consider never allowing her to perform in China,"

Sometimes, a little reading goes a long way.

Scary? What's China actually going to do? Threaten her and do nothing about it?

Oh deary me....Due to your complete ignorance of how far China is willing to go a Death Mobile will be at your house in fifteen minutes. So kindly go into the front of your residence or workplace and await the Death Mobile there.

Bjork is just a hippy rebel who never grew out of her teenage years and supports every independence movement. Tibet independence is a joke. Could you imagine if someone came singing about Lakota or Scot independence?

All you have to do is listen to Bjork to be pissed off at her.

Ahahaha suck it commies (the gov't, not the people). :)

The day when China's totalitarian government is overthrown and replaced with a democratic system will be a day of hope for the world.

never hear about Bjork before, is she good?
She’s ace! Check her out.

Björk’s a wonderful singer, and she’s had a great string of albums that range in style; from electronica through jazz, all the way to hip-hop and orchestral. Her last-before-one album, Medúlla was comprised of nothing but live vocals and vocal samples.

Declare Independence! (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LGC0VVobi6E), off of her newest album Volta, was the song the Chinese government is pissed at, and some of my personal favourites are Bachelorette (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LGC0VVobi6E), All is Full of Love (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EjAoBKagWQA&feature=related) and Hyperballad (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nPbrWtjTIno).

never hear about Bjork before, is he good?Her music generally ranges from okay to dull, but the stuff she does outside of her music tends to be pretty cool.

Declare Independence! (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LGC0VVobi6E)

Aye, Bjork is awesome, though I wonder...

Greenland does, quite honestly, have the possibility of becoming independent. That they haven't quite taken that move is more because they don't seem to have the energy to do it. They certainly haven't tried yet (I mention Greenland, because the flag that is most visible in the video is that of Greenland).

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Singer Bjork yelled out "Tibet, Tibet" at a concert in Shanghai before singing a song called "Declare Independence". Needless to say, the Chinese government is peeved...



lolz...anyway the Chinese said that now they're gonna do this...

Meh. I think censorship like that is going way too far, but Bjork doesn't really need a Chinese audience anyway. People all around the world appreciate her music.

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I challenge you to a duel. Pistols at dawn.

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I challenge you to a duel. Pistols at dawn.By the by you do know the person who was challenged to the duel gets to pick the conditions of the duel good sir.

The day when China's totalitarian government is overthrown and replaced with a democratic system will be a day of hope for the world.

"Overthrown"? "Replaced with"? A nice Civil War you were thinking of??

All you have to do is listen to Bjork to be pissed off at her.

Haha!

So true.

She isn't even good looking to make watching her music video's bearable, much less just listening to her music.

It seems like she was just trying to start a controversy, and she succeeded.

never hear about Bjork before, is he good?

Is she any good? Well, let me put it this way: there hadn't been a voice like hers since Yoko Ono.

Due to your complete ignorance of how far China is willing to go a Death Mobile will be at your house in fifteen minutes. So kindly go into the front of your residence or workplace and await the Death Mobile there.

Yeah, right. The Chinese government are going to sanction the murder of an internationally known musician because she doesn't agree with their politics.

Sometimes, a little reading goes a long way.

I was referring to China doing something worthwhile, not taking the diplomatic equivalent of "you can't come over to play".

I was referring to China doing something worthwhile, not taking the diplomatic equivalent of "you can't come over to play".

As opposed to invading Iceland?

As opposed to invading Iceland?

That would be awkward. I wonder how they'd reach Iceland. They can't quite send a land force through Eurasia and then sail from there. If they sail north around, it'll not only take a while, but their ships will need to be equipped to do it. If they sail south around Africa, it'll take even longer. That's not even mentioning that Iceland is pretty much in between the US and Europe, both of whom have an interest in defending their demilitarized friend.

As opposed to invading Iceland?

Firstly, no state would invade a country because their singer was mean to them.

Secondly, even if China did determine to do so, it couldn't. I'd love to see it try to invade an island in the northern Atlantic.

Firstly, no state would invade a country because their singer was mean to them.

Secondly, even if China did determine to do so, it couldn't. I'd love to see it try to invade an island in the northern Atlantic.

I'm just saying that making diplomatic policy-changes because of the acts of one artist is pretty drastic.

I'm just saying that making diplomatic policy-changes because of the acts of one artist is pretty drastic.

Yes, as was I....:rolleyes:

Yes, as was I....:rolleyes:

Well,
I was referring to China doing something worthwhile, not taking the diplomatic equivalent of "you can't come over to play".
It seems like you're mocking their lack of action.

"Overthrown"? "Replaced with"? A nice Civil War you were thinking of??

Well, it doesn't have to be. A civil war in China would have disastrous results in terms of innocent civilians being caught in the middle. I was thinking maybe have a group of radical, western educated college students rally the nation and seize the communist congress in one fell swoop.

It would have to be more like a successful version of 1989, I guess.

Sugarcubes...

Bjork is just like every other celebrity activist. A complete idiot. I doubt she knows anything about Tibet, except that it's a trendy subject. Tibet is fucked. The Chinese did a great job of doing what the Mexicans are doing in the Southwest. It's only a matter of time before they want "ethnic" independence, just like the squatters in Kosovo that we shamefully helped.

All organizers should ban political messages from concerts. Just like they should ban the pledge from sporting events and schools. It's just so stupid and out of place.

Bjoerk is a celebrity? Wouldn't have put her in that category, myself...

Bjork cares not for what people want to see much less China

though I guess she is someone you either love or hate and I guess I think like the Chinese government then :p

I was referring to China doing something worthwhile, not taking the diplomatic equivalent of "you can't come over to play".

Worthwhile how? They don't like her pro-independence stance, and don't want it spread around in China. Unless you're saying that they should send a goon squad to staple her mouth shut, which would cause a bigger mess, not letting her play in China seems to be the most expedient way.

I suppose they could take a book out of CoS and discredit her as mentally unstable or something.

Firstly, no state would invade a country because their singer was mean to them.


I will now devote my life to proving you wrong...where's Kevin Federline gone to?

:p

I will now devote my life to proving you wrong...where's Kevin Federline gone to?

:p

Fair enough. You win; let me know when you find him and I'll join in.:D

Props to Bjork for speaking truth to power.

Free Tibet.

Not that Penn & Teller are the final arbiters of truth, but has anyone here seen the episode of Bullshit that focuses on him and Mother Teresa?

Not the most savory characters when looked at as a whole.

See for yourself (http://youtube.com/watch?v=ADbERjjQ508&feature=related).

Again, I don't want to come off as saying that any one point of view is wholly correct, but it helps to take in more than one. It also helps to avoid jumping on political bandwagons before forming a genuinely considered opinion.

Chinese Death Vans
Promoting human rights wherever the road takes themSoon instead of flogging people that are just going put them in some stocks.

If anything is to happen I want to see Tibet gain independance. Shove it in the faces of that damned Chinese government. They will go to war and we are seriously going to screw up the Chinese military when we join in. No more games on China vs. U.S. anymore.And we have a new military base in Chinas side. I am liking this.
Tibet was a shithole when it was taken over, and is simply remaining so under new ownership.

And kicking up a war in the mountains of Tibet?

You'd have thought that experiences in the highlands of Vietnam and Afghanistan would make you reconsider, but seemingly not.

Haha! Oh, you crazy Bijork!

All organizers should ban political messages from concerts. Just like they should ban the pledge from sporting events and schools. It's just so stupid and out of place.


Erm....you realize the messege and meaning in many peices of art, be it musical or otherwise, is political right?

A good friend of mine saw her in HK, wish I could have gone but was busy, supposed to have been a good show.

The Chinese did a great job of doing what the Mexicans are doing in the Southwest. It's only a matter of time before they want "ethnic" independence, just like the squatters in Kosovo that we shamefully helped.
First of all the reason why the majority of Mexicans settle in southern U.S.A is because Mexico borders those regions and they aren't clamouring for independence in the regions where they are the majority.

The Han Chinese are being moved into Tibet by the Chinese government to secure their postion as the controlling group, not to split of part of it and leave the rest (all or nothing, and they have no plans on getting nothing).