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http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/23485543/page/2/

He told FARC he wants to end all support for Colombia and end free trade with the nation.
In documents released by the Colombian government, Obama told FARC he was already the new President of the US. The election hasn't even been held and he's declaring himself leader of the US.

This will wipe out his campaign if Hillary or John make an issue of it which they should if they had any intelligence.

BTW, almost forgot, the Obama part is the end of the second page of the article.

I don't see what you are talking about anywhere in the article. The most it says is "Obama wants to end free trade and military aid with Columbia". I don't see "Lending support to FARC" anywhere.

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/23485543/page/2/

He told FARC he wants to end all support for Colombia and end free trade with the nation.
In documents released by the Colombian government, Obama told FARC he was already the new President of the US. The election hasn't even been held and he's declaring himself leader of the US.

This will wipe out his campaign if Hillary or John make an issue of it which they should if they had any intelligence.

BTW, almost forgot, the Obama part is the end of the second page of the article.




Um, nothing you said is accurate. Firstly, it says someone is in contact with them, it doesnt even say if thyre related to Obama's campaign, and certainly doesnt say it was Obama.. It also just notes Obama wants to end Free Trade with Colombia. Which is a good idea. Theyre a terror state. Nowhere does it say he would support FARC.

Secondly:

“They say the new president of their country will be (Barack) Obama,”

Notice the bolded part. That measn future tense. No one said Obama is already president.

Either you misread the article or are beig deliberatly misleading. And it would be the same if Hillary or McCain did what you did.

What a stupid OP. I want my 30 seconds back.

Troll

Um, nothing you said is accurate. Firstly, it says someone is in contact with them, it doesnt even say if thyre related to Obama's campaign, and certainly doesnt say it was Obama.. It also just notes Obama wants to end Free Trade with Colombia. Which is a good idea. Theyre a terror state. Nowhere does it say he would support FARC.

Secondly:



Notice the bolded part. That measn future tense. No one said Obama is already president.

Either you misread the article or are beig deliberatly misleading. And it would be the same if Hillary or McCain did what you did.

"WILL BE" is the catch phrase. In other words they're saying he will steal the election. It's like those people, obama supporters, who pulled out guns last night and banned Clintonistas from the Texas Caucuses as they tried to do in Nevada.

Obama is a cutthroat commie who wants to remake the US in the image of leftist Chavez, his buddy.

One wonders if Chavez is supporting Obama considering they have the same ideology.

*sighs*

Can't you trolls all run off collectively under a bus or something?

You're insane. Good thing you don't matter.

Well, Chavez has interfered in the elections of all the countries in this hemisphere. It's not beyond him to try and interfere in US elections.

Because idiocy of this magnitude deserves to be publically aired, rather than simply linked to:

Reference to Obama
Writing two days before his death, Reyes tells his secretariat comrades that “the gringos,” working through Ecuador’s government, are interested “in talking to us on various issues.”

“They say the new president of their country will be (Barack) Obama,” noting that Obama rejects both the Bush administration’s free trade agreement with Colombia and the current military aid program.

Reyes said the response he relayed is that the United States would have to publicly express that desire.

Another message, to Reyes from a lower-ranking commander and dated Feb. 16, includes mention of a possible purchase of 50 kilos — 110 pounds — of uranium.

Uribe’s government has claimed that means the FARC was seeking to build a dirty bomb. But the message discusses a different motive: selling the uranium at a profit.

"WILL BE" is the catch phrase. In other words they're saying he will steal the election. It's like those people, obama supporters, who pulled out guns last night and banned Clintonistas from the Texas Caucuses as they tried to do in Nevada.

Obama is a cutthroat commie who wants to remake the US in the image of leftist Chavez, his buddy.

One wonders if Chavez is supporting Obama considering they have the same ideology.

You're insane. Good thing you don't matter.

"WILL BE" is the catch phrase. In other words they're saying he will steal the election. It's like those people, obama supporters, who pulled out guns last night and banned Clintonistas from the Texas Caucuses as they tried to do in Nevada.

Actually, there is no evidence that the gun thing happened. If it couild be proven, it would have been, because its easy to prove it. Find the police who answered the call. There is no reason to believe hed steal the election.

Obama is a cutthroat commie who wants to remake the US in the image of leftist Chavez, his buddy.

One wonders if Chavez is supporting Obama considering they have the same ideology.

Youre uninformed. Prove a word you just said.

Writing two days before his death, Reyes tells his secretariat comrades that “the gringos,” working through Ecuador’s government, are interested “in talking to us on various issues.”

“They say the new president of their country will be (Barack) Obama,” noting that Obama rejects both the Bush administration’s free trade agreement with Colombia and the current military aid program.

As people before me have pointed out, no where does it say anything you claim...

You fail.

No.

He got caught in a bullshit lie. He first said Obama himself told FARC he was already president.


When that was called out as the lying bullshit it was, he changed to a paranoid loon and said Obama is teh ebil commie who wants to steal the US election.


Cause a civil rights lawyer is the one most likely to undermine the democratic process.

Snip.

No.

dp

To the OP:


Where does it say Obama or anyone connected to his campaign would support FARC? Prove that without absurd inuendo. Wanting to cut military funding of Colombia and ending free trade with a terror state that violates human rights and is connected with drug runners is not supporting terrorists.

Where does it imply Obama is prepared to steal the election?

Are you one of those idiots who thinks that because his middle name is the same as the last name of the former Iraq dictator that they were practically brothers?

Are you Sean Hannity?

hahaha..

whoever said the UnitedStatesOfAmerica has faulty Intelligence ? ;)

Me. Ill say it right now. This poster has faulty intellegence.

hahaha..

whoever said the UnitedStatesOfAmerica has faulty Intelligence? ;)

MY god, this wasn't a straw man, it was a total failure.

Worst OP in ages.

http://gatewaypundit.blogspot.com/2008/03/captured-farc-computers-name-barack.html

"But, no one expected this---
The FARC Terrorists were hoping and expecting that Barack Obama would win the US elections in November because he was most aligned with the Colombian Marxist group."

"(translated)
6. The gringos will ask for an appointment with the minister to solicit him to communicate to us his interest in discussing these topics. They say that the new president of their country will be Obama and that they are interested in your compatriots. Obama will not support "Plan Colombia" nor will he sign the TLC (Colombian Free Trade agreement). Here we responded that we are interested in relations with all governments in equality of conditions and that in the case of the US it is required a public pronouncement expressing their interest in talking with the FARC given their eternal war against us."

"But, no one expected this---
NO-one expects the Spanish Inquisition!!!

http://gatewaypundit.blogspot.com/2008/03/captured-farc-computers-name-barack.html

"But, no one expected this---
The FARC Terrorists were hoping and expecting that Barack Obama would win the US elections in November because he was most aligned with the Colombian Marxist group."


Bravo. You post a right wing anti Obama blog as your support. Tell me, if no one reported it, how does this asshat know that? Ill answer that for you, he fucking doesnt. Its just right wing fear mongering and propaganda.

"(translated)
6. The gringos will ask for an appointment with the minister to solicit him to communicate to us his interest in discussing these topics. They say that the new president of their country will be Obama and that they are interested in your compatriots. Obama will not support "Plan Colombia" nor will he sign the TLC (Colombian Free Trade agreement).

Not supporting Colombia is not the same as supporting FARC.


Here we responded that we are interested in relations with all governments in equality of conditions and that in the case of the US it is required a public pronouncement expressing their interest in talking with the FARC given their eternal war against us."

So, what FARC is saying is that if they talk to the US, the US has to make it public. Great. We know what FARC wants. Nowhere does it say the US has any interest in doing that.



Ill sum this up for you. Obama does not want to keep seding military aid in the form of guns and money to Colombia. FARC is fighting against Colombia. Therefore, it is in FARC's best interest that someone who stops aiding Colombia militarially is elected. That doesnt mean Obama supports FARC, which is what your implying. Stick to facts, not your paranoid right wing delusions.

hahaha..

whoever said the UnitedStatesOfAmerica has faulty Intelligence? ;)

*ba dum tish*

To the OP:

It should also be noted that the US government is treating everything Colombia is currently telling them about FARC with skepticism, because Colombia wants to further its own agenda. Now, if Colombia is implying what you are saying, that might be because they dont want Obama elected because he will cut support for them, and thus they want to smear him.


However, more importantly, show me how Obama is connected with any of this. Show that Obama feels this way. Just saying "Zomg he doesnt like Colombia he clearly likes FARC!!!!" doesnt work.

So what? Free trade benefits no one except the very highest tiers of capitalism.

the therm "terrorist" is a hot button label with which to brainwash people.

there is no difference between people killing people for political agendas who have the support of existing soverign nations then those who do not.

nor can the blame for doing so be pinned on any one idiology, nor can any idiology alone solve the problem of this occuring nor prevent it from doing so.

only the elimination of deliberately creating arbitrary inequities and arbitrariness of policy which creates socially dibilitating conditions can create an opportunity for the eventual ilimination of politically motivated violence.

something clearly, vested political and economic intrests, for a variety of reasons about which they are seldom honest, do NOT appear to wish to achieve.

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http://gatewaypundit.blogspot.com/2008/03/captured-farc-computers-name-barack.html

"But, no one expected this---
The FARC Terrorists were hoping and expecting that Barack Obama would win the US elections in November because he was most aligned with the Colombian Marxist group."

"(translated)
6. The gringos will ask for an appointment with the minister to solicit him to communicate to us his interest in discussing these topics. They say that the new president of their country will be Obama and that they are interested in your compatriots. Obama will not support "Plan Colombia" nor will he sign the TLC (Colombian Free Trade agreement). Here we responded that we are interested in relations with all governments in equality of conditions and that in the case of the US it is required a public pronouncement expressing their interest in talking with the FARC given their eternal war against us."

A biased blog is your "evidence." Hell, any blog pretty mush sucks as a point of reference. I almost got sucked into the mix and posted something from a blog regarding how the net of the Obama Hillary showdown might be Obama +3. Other sources have it at worst Hillary +4. Either way this is not a big dent for Hillary. She'll lose Wyoming and Mississippi and fall further behind. As for this "supporting terrorist" non-story here we'll need a little more proof than innuendo and blogs. Try again.

Obama would never risk endangering our strong relationship with Columbia for a has-been Marxist terrorist organization... there's a big difference between opposing a free trade agreement and/or arms sales to their government and welcoming FARC with open arms. Besides, I highly doubt FARC would have a chance even if the US scrapped military aid.

Click Stand;13503845']I don't see what you are talking about anywhere in the article. The most it says is "Obama wants to end free trade and military aid with Columbia". I don't see "Lending support to FARC" anywhere.

But it's so simple. By simply telling the prospect reader what you want him or her to believe, chances are that some simpletons who happen to be a member of this forum will, if they actually take the time to read said article, actually believe that Obama wants to support the FARC. Propaganda is all about the manipulation of people's views on things. The threadstarter with the patriottic name tries to put the final nail in Obama's coffin, but chances are that he will fail miserably. That won't stop the little troll from trying, of course.

UnitedStatesOfAmerica went and FARCed himself. ;)

He got caught in a bullshit lie. He first said Obama himself told FARC he was already president.


When that was called out as the lying bullshit it was, he changed to a paranoid loon and said Obama is teh ebil commie who wants to steal the US election.


Cause a civil rights lawyer is the one most likely to undermine the democratic process.

Who better to break the law than one who knows its most intricate workings?

UnitedStatesOfAmerica went and FARCed himself. ;)

Well, that saves us the trouble.

OP can't be supported cause no news outlets are even investigating Obama's supposed request for talks with the FARC. They're stuck on Chavez' movement of troops, ships, planes and supposed threats to invade Colombia which he hasn't even made yet. And which he might not make if he knows what's good for him.



Obama on his website, has denounced the FARC today saying he will not support their group and will continue US policy of opposing them.

EDIT: While Chavez hasn't threatened to invade and the US says Colombia must fight on its own, it becoming clear that Chavez and Bush are interested in turning Colombia into a proxy battleground between their two states.

"WILL BE" is the catch phrase. In other words they're saying he will steal the election.

Dude, every candidate proclaims they "will be." Hillary said what was it, "we're going all the way?" Doesn't indicate anything except a show of optimism and confidence.

Obama is a cutthroat commie

lol

If so, I guess communism isn't that different from the Republican or Democratic parties.

who wants to remake the US in the image of leftist Chavez, his buddy.

Yeah that's convincing. I'm scared, almost as scared as when I heard he wanted to make the US a sharia-law Islamic theocracy.

One wonders if Chavez is supporting Obama considering they have the same ideology.

One wonders if Chavez is supporting Obama, why there is no evidence of it and only your own already-proven-to-be-outright-false claims.

The point of the OP is to simply disseminate volatile, false information. The lack of truth of this "story" is hardly the point.

IF YOU'RE READING THIS, TAKE A SECOND TO THINK AND DO SOME MINOR ANALYSIS OF THE OP. IT'S A LIE, AND WILL ALWAYS BE SO NO MATTER HOW MANY TIMES YOU READ IT.

Who better to break the law than one who knows its most intricate workings?
Um, somebody who doesn't?

I'd offer support to farc those terrorist groups as well.
Obama is just being too PC about it... I mean seriously, we are dealing with people that will blow you up for being at the right place at the right time.. he can go out and use 'fuck' if he wants to.

OP can't be supported cause no news outlets are even investigating Obama's supposed request for talks with the FARC. They're stuck on Chavez' movement of troops, ships, planes and supposed threats to invade Colombia which he hasn't even made yet. And which he might not make if he knows what's good for him.

Then you're asking us to prove a negative...

"WILL BE" is the catch phrase. In other words they're saying he will steal the election. It's like those people, obama supporters, who pulled out guns last night and banned Clintonistas from the Texas Caucuses as they tried to do in Nevada.

So if I predict that Obama will win, that means I am conspiring an illegal coup d'etat? :roll eyes

What the fuck is wrong with you?

Obama is a cutthroat commie who wants to remake the US in the image of leftist Chavez, his buddy.

I wish he was a communist. If he were a flaming Marxist-Leninist, then maybe, just maybe the Democratic Party might stop resembling the Republican Party.

One wonders if Chavez is supporting Obama considering they have the same ideology.

How does a centrist somehow share ideologies with a self-proclaimed socialist?

Can't be done cause its not being investigated.

Once again the UnitedStatesofAmerica brings FreedomAndGlory to the world.

Once again the UnitedStatesofAmerica brings FreedomAndGlory to the world.

But I don't like their MeansToAnEnd.

Um, somebody who doesn't?

Know thine enemy, Tongass. Know thine enemy. Plus, a lawyer knows just how far they can screw you over and not get in trouble for it.

Know thine enemy, Tongass. Know thine enemy.Done.

Plus, a lawyer knows just how far they can screw you over and not get in trouble for it.Which at least places a predictable upper limit on their screwing activities, unlike a certain sitting president. At least Bill Clinton - a compulsive liar and sexual predator - knew when to stop before his perceived legacy became damaged or his illegal activities became dangerously blatant enough that he might land in jail.

You Americans...how I feel sorry for you when I see such a troll...is it really so usual to forge false evidences against democratic candidates, in your country ?

That's the sad part, really. Democrats and Republicans are so similar, yet since rarely does anyone in America have perspective, the slightest deviation from right-wing policy is called communism, made worse by years of red scare propaganda and fear mongering.

It's pathetic, really. Though, America resembles Rome quite a bit... Oh well. Rome fell under imperial rule, democracy resulted in chaos and riots. Perhaps America will go down with less bloodshed?

Yes, America should give up support for Columbia.....

Yes, America should give up support for Columbia.....

That'll happen when scientists develop a miracle cure for cocaine addiction.

You Americans...how I feel sorry for you when I see such a troll...is it really so usual to forge false evidences against democratic candidates, in your country ?

not unusual at all, more like s.o.p. campaign practice. just too many joe sixpacks have their heads too far where the sun don't shine to be able to remember this from one election cycle to the next.

does the phrase "swift boat" ring any bells?

or for that matter, "wmd's"?

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Can't be done cause its not being investigated.

You know what else isn't being investigated? Extraterrestrial hamsters that implant devices in electronic equipment that makes the elderly lose bladder and bowel function. Everybody assumes it's due to old age but the truth is far more insidious. Yet there's no documentation of the phenomena anywhere...because it's not being investigated.

:)

Damn police force is on the payroll of Big Hamsters...:mad:

The clowns have known about it for decades, but we think it's funny. :)

You know what else isn't being investigated? Extraterrestrial hamsters that implant devices in electronic equipment that makes the elderly lose bladder and bowel function. Everybody assumes it's due to old age but the truth is far more insidious. Yet there's no documentation of the phenomena anywhere...because it's not being investigated.

:)Damn police force is on the payroll of Big Hamsters...:mad:

You know what else isn't being investigated?
:)

The maximum limits of your testicular fortitude against blunt trauma. Not officially at least. I'd rather not file the paperwork to make it official. I'd rather not have a paper trail if the test proves more than successful.

:p

Yes, America should give up support for Columbia.....

That means you support FARC! Damn Commie with your Marxist theories!:p

I do love when logic becomes illogical.

Anyway, it's not a great tactic to make up lies about a candidate you don't like. Having real arguments with clear points goes so much further...

That means you support FARC! Damn Commie with your Marxist theories!:p

I do love when logic becomes illogical.

Anyway, it's not a great tactic to make up lies about a candidate you don't like. Having real arguments with clear points goes so much further...Well, you can't spell illogical without logic...

Well, you can't spell illogical without logic...

And you can't spell slaughter without laughter. :p

And you can't spell slaughter without laughter. :pThat's both horrible and awesome at the same time! :eek:

Figures, if even the KKK offered to support Osama Obama, it's only natural that he'll offer to support FARC.:rolleyes:

http://i111.photobucket.com/albums/n123/adenthief61/obama_kkk.jpg

((I AM JOKING, EH!;)))

OP can't be supported cause no news outlets are even investigating Obama's supposed request for talks with the FARC. They're stuck on Chavez' movement of troops, ships, planes and supposed threats to invade Colombia which he hasn't even made yet. And which he might not make if he knows what's good for him.



Obama on his website, has denounced the FARC today saying he will not support their group and will continue US policy of opposing them.

EDIT: While Chavez hasn't threatened to invade and the US says Colombia must fight on its own, it becoming clear that Chavez and Bush are interested in turning Colombia into a proxy battleground between their two states.

So how are you making an argument that you yourself admit you cannot support?

This is to fucking funny. Obama supporting FARC? HAHA!!! That's like saying President Bush supports Al Qaida for attacking Iraq.

OP? Do us all a favor and step away from the keyboard and get real information.

The maximum limits of your testicular fortitude against blunt trauma. Not officially at least. I'd rather not file the paperwork to make it official. I'd rather not have a paper trail if the test proves more than successful.

:p

There have been numerous unofficial tests, however. :(

When the U.S. Department of Weights and Measures shows up at my front door with a sledge hammer, I'm running and catching the first boat to Madagascar. :)

I get the impression that the FARC prefers that the US President be Obama, but even then, they would have to hear him say the words they really want to hear, and enact the policies they want to have.

Short of that, this doesn't look like Obama supporting the FARC at all. It's beyond a stretch of the imagination to think that Obama is supporting the FARC.

But I don't like their MeansToAnEnd.

I don't think it's MTAE, despite the naming similarity the posting style is different. Probably a copycat. MTAE would defend his absurdities with gusto, this guy is a shallow imitation.

"WILL BE" is the catch phrase. In other words they're saying he will steal the election. It's like those people, obama supporters, who pulled out guns last night and banned Clintonistas from the Texas Caucuses as they tried to do in Nevada.

Obama is a cutthroat commie who wants to remake the US in the image of leftist Chavez, his buddy.

One wonders if Chavez is supporting Obama considering they have the same ideology.


:upyours:

I highly doubt Chavez it Obamas buddy. How many socialists do you see supporting Obama ? Oh and please I highly think you may have Moderates mixed with communists /facepalm

If your going to come out with shit about Chavez by claiming he has the same views as that prick Obama then make it shit i wont laugh at then force you to eat.

There have been numerous unofficial tests, however. :(

Unsuccessful so far, but one day we'll... I mean someone, will find out. Yes.


When the U.S. Department of Weights and Measures shows up at my front door with a sledge hammer, I'm running and catching the first boat to Madagascar. :)

That's right. Worry about the Department of Weights and Measures. Pay no attention to the coilgun being built on the other side of the road pointed low at your front door. No worries at all. :p

Unsuccessful so far, but one day we'll... I mean someone, will find out. Yes.



That's right. Worry about the Department of Weights and Measures. Pay no attention to the coilgun being built on the other side of the road pointed low at your front door. No worries at all. :p

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You can run, but all the mud in the world won't hide you. :p

One wonders if Chavez is supporting Obama considering they have the same ideology.

It should be heaven!! Hoorah!

So what? Free trade benefits no one except the very highest tiers of capitalism.
Yeah, it is Comrade Andaras.

Yes, America should give up support for Columbia.....

Hell, America really needs to kick Columbia out of the nation.

Sorry.

Wow, it's now become clear to me that Obama is an evil terrorist. I think I'll have to plot to assasinate him, for the good of America.





BRBFBI.

Yeah, it is Comrade Andaras.

Unless you happen to buy stuff made in other countries. Or work in a job that involves selling things to other countries.

I think the best thing we can do is stop posting in this thread and let it die. We all know it's absurd, so let's stop feeding the monster. After a day or so this thread will pass on. deal?

I think the best thing we can do is stop posting in this thread and let it die. We all know it's absurd, so let's stop feeding the monster. After a day or so this thread will pass on. deal?

I rather like it as a testimony to the complete absurdity of the OP's viewpoint. In my opinion, stupid ideas are like horses that one can never beat too much.

You can run, but all the mud in the world won't hide you. :p

It'll take a while to search it all though. :D

I think the best thing we can do is stop posting in this thread and let it die. We all know it's absurd, so let's stop feeding the monster. After a day or so this thread will pass on. deal?

That's a good idea.

Die thread die.

BRBFBI.LOLFBI

This is priceless. Best satire I've ever r...wait, it's not satire? :(

That's a good idea.

Die thread die.That's why I never post on this thread.