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Transparent Aluminum

Khadgar
04-03-2008, 21:01
That's right, it exists now:

http://www.surmet.com/docs/Product_sheet_ALON.pdf

http://www.livescience.com/technology/051018_new_glass.html


Military: New Aluminum Windows Stop .50-Caliber Bullet

By LiveScience Staff

posted: 18 October 2005 05:01 pm ET
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A new type of transparent armor made of aluminum could one day replace glass in military vehicles.

The product is called aluminum oxynitride. It is being tested by the Army and the University of Dayton Research Institute in Ohio.

The material is a ceramic compound with a high compressive strength and durability, according to an Army statement issued this week. It performs better than the multilayered glass products currently in use, and its about half the weight. It is virtually scratch-resistant.

"The substance itself is light-years ahead of glass," said 1st Lt. Joseph La Monica, who heads the research.

Glass is still used in the new process, being sandwhiched between an outer layer of the polished aluminum oxynitride and a polymer backing.

.50-caliber test

In a test this summer, the product held up to a .50-caliber sniper's rifle with amor-piercing bullets. Traditional glass armor did not survive the test.

Officials hope the product will prove even more useful when considering more severe threats, such as explosives.

"The higher the threat, the more savings you're going to get," La Monica said. "With glass, to get the protection against higher threats, you have to keep building layers upon layers. But with [the new product], the material only needs to be increased a few millimeters."

"Achieving protection at lighter weights will allow the armor to be more easily integrated into vehicles," said Ron Hoffman, a researcher at University of Dayton Research Institute.

Cost vs. Durability

Time, blowing sand and other environmental factors degrade glass surfaces. The aluminum material is expected to retain its clarity for much longer.

"It all comes down to survivability and being able to see what's out there and to make decisions while having the added protection," Hoffman said.

The military is considering installing the aluminum windows on Humvees and low-flying, slower aircraft like the the C-130 Hercules.

The holdup for now is price.

Traditional transparent armor costs less than $4 per square inch. The aluminum oxynitride is now at least $10 per square inch. That price would come down with mass production. And the material's longevity would make it cost less than the initial price tag would indicate.

"It might cost more in the beginning, but it is going to cost less in the long run because you are going to have to replace it less," La Monica said.


That is so cool! Shame it's expensive right now, but it'll go down.
New Ziedrich
04-03-2008, 21:03
Developments like this are always a good thing. :)
The Alma Mater
04-03-2008, 21:04
That's right, it exists now

So... any whales gone mysteriously missing ?
Conserative Morality
04-03-2008, 21:05
Man. 4$ per square inch for traditional glass windows, but 10$ per inch for these new aluminum windows? Expensive. Also, although I am DEFINTLY NOT an expert on these matters, would it be possible to do something similar with other metals? Just a thought.
Lunatic Goofballs
04-03-2008, 21:17
Man. 4$ per square inch for traditional glass windows, but 10$ per inch for these new aluminum windows? Expensive. Also, although I am DEFINTLY NOT an expert on these matters, would it be possible to do something similar with other metals? Just a thought.

Metal glass is one of the most rapidly and promisingly growing facets of metallurgy.
Pure Metal
04-03-2008, 21:17
hello computer?
HaMedinat Yisrael
04-03-2008, 21:21
Gentlemen, we have just received irrefutable proof that time travel does exist. Someone traveled back to our time and gave them the formula for this.

The temporal prime directive has been violated. Is anyone else as seriously pissed off as I am?:mad::upyours::mad:

"Why, how do we know he didn't invent the thing?"

Seriously people, this is no joke. Fucking with our timeline is not funny. Future people, stop fucking with us.
Neo Bretonnia
04-03-2008, 21:30
Gentlemen, we have just received irrefutable proof that time travel does exist. Someone traveled back to our time and gave them the formula for this.

The temporal prime directive has been violated. Is anyone else as seriously pissed off as I am?:mad::upyours::mad:

"Why, how do we know he didn't invent the thing?"

Seriously people, this is no joke. Fucking with our timeline is not funny. Future people, stop fucking with us.

LAWL
Khadgar
04-03-2008, 21:48
Yeah, but who's going to do a damn thing about it? The Time Lords are all dead.

-----

Seriously, Star Trek has a history of predicting realistic advances in technology. They predicted cellular phone communication, for instance.

http://www.space.com/technology/top10-star-trek-tech.html

Some of those are a stretch though.
Sumamba Buwhan
04-03-2008, 21:52
awesome
Gauthier
04-03-2008, 21:53
Gentlemen, we have just received irrefutable proof that time travel does exist. Someone traveled back to our time and gave them the formula for this.

The temporal prime directive has been violated. Is anyone else as seriously pissed off as I am?:mad::upyours::mad:

"Why, how do we know he didn't invent the thing?"

Seriously people, this is no joke. Fucking with our timeline is not funny. Future people, stop fucking with us.

Yeah, but who's going to do a damn thing about it? The Time Lords are all dead.

-----

Seriously, Star Trek has a history of predicting realistic advances in technology. They predicted cellular phone communication, for instance.
Ultraviolent Radiation
04-03-2008, 21:58
Aluminium, swine!
Damor
04-03-2008, 22:01
Yeah, but who's going to do a damn thing about it? The Time Lords are all dead.All but one (and possibly a few others, if it's convenient)..
Damor
04-03-2008, 22:03
Seriously people, this is no joke. Fucking with our timeline is not funny.What? Timelines need love too!
Trotskylvania
04-03-2008, 22:05
Lol. Today has been a roller coaster for nerds. First Gygax dies, and then we find out that transparent aluminum is real.
Damor
04-03-2008, 22:57
Lol. Today has been a roller coaster for nerds. First Gygax dies, and then we find out that transparent aluminum is real.Actually, I found out some three years ago, this is really old news

It's even in the quoted article
posted: 18 October 2005 05:01 pm ET
Tmutarakhan
04-03-2008, 23:03
Actually, I found out some three years ago, this is really old news

It's even in the quoted article
Well, it's news to ME (and what else matters?):cool:
Intangelon
04-03-2008, 23:10
So... any whales gone mysteriously missing ?

hello computer?

"A keyboard. How quaint."
Curious Inquiry
04-03-2008, 23:39
So... any whales gone mysteriously missing ?

I thought that was flower pots . . .
Redwulf
04-03-2008, 23:41
But where do the keep the nuclear wessals?
Infinite Revolution
05-03-2008, 00:53
no mention of it's refractive qualities, though i'm sure they've considered that.
Pure Metal
05-03-2008, 00:57
"A keyboard. How quaint."

:D

my favourite bit of all the movies :P (yes, i am that sad...)
Sel Appa
05-03-2008, 03:13
That is so freakin' awesome! Especially from the prospective of a Star Wars fan who knows about the material transparisteel (http://starwars.wikia.com/wiki/Transparisteel).

This is pure awesome.
Posi
05-03-2008, 04:35
This is neat. Although it should be noted that glass is capable of being significantly stronger than it is now.
JuNii
05-03-2008, 05:35
So... any whales gone mysteriously missing ?

The important question is...

any reports of Russian Whalers encountering a UFO?

lets see... the USS Enterprise was in California less than two decades ago...

it would've taken years to figure out the matrix... so it should be about right...
Naturality
05-03-2008, 07:22
Awesome. I've always like aluminum. It's probably already used by military though. That can be good or bad. Or good AND bad.
Jeruselem
05-03-2008, 07:26
Uber, where can we get it! :D