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why are computers so damn complicated?


To keep out riff raff. *nod*

As time goes by, that plan becomes less and less effective. :p

IDE Channel 0 Master: none
IDE Channel 0 Slave: DVDRW
IDE Channel 2 Master: none
IDE Channel 3 Master: none

CMOS checksum error - Default Loaded

Warning! Now system is in Safe Mode
Please re-setting CPU Frequency in CMOS Setup


press F1 to continue DEL to go to Setup

With only IDE cable I have my DVD drive and harddrive hooked up to it. It will pick up my DVD drive but not my harddrive (even if I have just one hooked up) is that an issue?


Also it will not pick up my keyboard (a USB keyboard) So I have not been able to continue or go to setup. If I do go to setup is it hard to figure out what it wants done?



I just got the stuff I needed today and I get this! *sob*

because bill gates hates all of us.

why are computers so damn complicated?

Because technology is the Devil! Don't let Satan tempt you, REJECT THE EVILS OF TECHNOLOGY!!


Whatever your problem an exorcism may help

*exorcises DVD and Hard Drives*

THE POWER OF CHRIST COMPELS YOU!!

have you played portal?

Opening doors to the Underworld is no joke young man!
You know what happens when you play with fire?

God sends you to Hell.

Because technology is the Devil! Don't let Satan tempt you, REJECT THE EVILS OF TECHNOLOGY!!


Whatever your problem an exorcism may help

*exorcises DVD and Hard Drives*

THE POWER OF CHRIST COMPELS YOU!!

.....but the games!

have you played portal?

Aside from making sure that the drive has power, are you sure that the PATA controller is supported by your OS? If it's a new motherboard and an old OS, the answer to that question might be no. Can you at least see it in the BIOS?

With only IDE cable I have my DVD drive and harddrive hooked up to it. It will pick up my DVD drive but not my harddrive (even if I have just one hooked up) is that an issue?


Also it will not pick up my keyboard (a USB keyboard) So I have not been able to continue or go to setup. If I do go to setup is it hard to figure out what it wants done?



I just got the stuff I needed today and I get this! *sob*

Check power connection. Does the drive spin up when you switch the machine on?

Please re-setting CPU Frequency in CMOS Setup

A classic bit of Engrish there.

Every IT guy or gal's secret weapon (ok its not really a secret): www.google.com. :)

Also when I start getting upset I just watch the follow you tube video and then it doesn't seem so bad. http://youtube.com/watch?v=_TSCDv0Kn2w

Check power connection. Does the drive spin up when you switch the machine on?



A classic bit of Engrish there.

I think it does....if it didn't I wont be getting that error message would I? O_o

I think it does....if it didn't I wont be getting that error message would I? O_o

no, you would, the BIOS is part of the motherboard.

As for help, check your jumpers, make sure you have them set correctly.

I think it does....if it didn't I wont be getting that error message would I? O_o

I mean, check the power connection to the drive itself.
When you switch on the machine, get your ear as close to the drive as you can an listen for any noise coming from it. Try to ignore fans and other drives.

Aside from making sure that the drive has power, are you sure that the PATA controller is supported by your OS? If it's a new motherboard and an old OS, the answer to that question might be no. Can you at least see it in the BIOS?

.......:confused: no idea what you just said. I have XP so I don't see why it would be.

I mean, check the power connection to the drive itself.
When you switch on the machine, get your ear as close to the drive as you can an listen for any noise coming from it. Try to ignore fans and other drives.

As best I can tell it is working.

.......:confused: no idea what you just said. I have XP so I don't see why it would be.

This isn't your problem anyway.

IDE Channel 0 Master: none
IDE Channel 0 Slave: DVDRW
IDE Channel 2 Master: none
IDE Channel 3 Master: none

The BIOS isn't picking up the drive at all yet. Check master/slave jumpers on the back of the drive as mentioned by rolling squid.

Computers do get more complicated over time =P But hey for college work, youtube, and the occasional dabble in Fable Lost Chapters (yes i know its an old game) I really dont' have any problems.

That is not an old game. :p

In my experience, computers get more and more unreliable. My old Pentium II was much more reliable than some of the new computers I've worked with.

Rolling squid;13484805']no, you would, the BIOS is part of the motherboard.

As for help, check your jumpers, make sure you have them set correctly.

This isn't your problem anyway.



The BIOS isn't picking up the drive at all yet. Check master/slave jumpers on the back of the drive as mentioned by rolling squid.

I will go do that...bbs

.....but the games!

have you played portal?

Clearly the influence of Satan has corrupted you...

Computers do get more complicated over time =P But hey for college work, youtube, and the occasional dabble in Fable Lost Chapters (yes i know its an old game) I really dont' have any problems.

It was let to take the postion it was on the cable, it is the master now.:D



but the still leaves the BIOS issue apparently.

huh. usually BIos only pops up if your computer can't find your OP. This may seem a really stupid question, but you're sure the operating system is installed?

It was let to take the postion it was on the cable, it is the master now.:D



but the still leaves the BIOS issue apparently.

Computers do get more complicated over time =P But hey for college work, youtube, and the occasional dabble in Fable Lost Chapters (yes i know its an old game) I really dont' have any problems.

Fables may be old, but it is good.

"Programmers are in a race with the Universe to create bigger and better idiot-proof programs, while the Universe is trying to create bigger and better idiots. So far the Universe is winning."

Clearly the influence of Satan has corrupted you...

Oh please. Lucy isn't like that. Jesus plays way more GTA...



Anywho, I got a normal keyboard and have gone into the setup. What should I do to "re-setting CPU Frequency in CMOS Setup"

Oh please. Lucy isn't like that. Jesus plays way more GTA...



Anywho, I got a normal keyboard and have gone into the setup. What should I do to "re-setting CPU Frequency in CMOS Setup"

BLASPHEMY! Jesus walked in the middle of the desert sandals...he didn't play any of your Satanic videogames

It was let to take the postion it was on the cable, it is the master now.:D



but the still leaves the BIOS issue apparently.

What motherboard do you have?

BLASPHEMY! Jesus walked in the middle of the desert sandals...he didn't play any of your Satanic videogames

You didn't get the memo? he cameback played some games then left. didn't like the current pope or something...

My standard responce to a question like this was to quote a friend of mine when we both worked in tech support, 'See, there's this demon, and it lives inside your computer; and it doesn't like you!'

Best answer out of any. ;)

My standard responce to a question like this was to quote a friend of mine when we both worked in tech support, 'See, there's this demon, and it lives inside your computer; and it doesn't like you!'

Best answer out of any. ;)

I have to ask....Did he actually tell a caller this?


and that begs the question of did the caller believe him?

What motherboard do you have?

PC Chips A13G/A13G+


(at leas that is what the manual has on it.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HetmOw1t1A4

sorry...couldn't resist.

Why must computers be complicated?

Simple. Without problems to fix, nerds would get absolutely nothing. This is why engineers continue to proliferate: they create easier ways of doing things, but only do the job half-assed. In doing so, they make their lives much, much easier, and allow others to follow in their footsteps and fix the problems, thereby getting some action for themselves. These engineers then talk to each other, decrying the loss of action once the problems are solved, and then begin formulating a new way to make life easier. With the sudden attention, they rush to completion to minimize their efforts and maximize the reward ratio, leaving glitches for others to fix.

This is called the ellipse of life. Engineers are always quick to point out the fact that since planetary orbits are elliptical, and the planets themselves are ellipeses when a cross section is taken along the supplementary longitude lines, then the cycle of their lives is also elliptical. That, and the fact that at any point in the cycle, their level of getting action can be expressed using the sum of the distance between the focus that is their ability to repair and the focus that is their ability to advance. Fear them, for they are mighty.

I chose "Load Optimal Defaults" which seems to have worked.


Thanks people for you help in yet another computer issue -_-;;

I have to ask....Did he actually tell a caller this?
A walk in, and yes.

and that begs the question of did the caller believe him?
Well... she looked at the both of us for a minute or two and then slowly said that she could believe it. Then we got to work in recovering her file and gave the standard lecture about saving, back-ups, and never trusting floppy disks that you just found with your 500 page thesis.

"Programmers are in a race with the Universe to create bigger and better idiot-proof programs, while the Universe is trying to create bigger and better idiots. So far the Universe is winning."

:p Who said that?

With only IDE cable I have my DVD drive and harddrive hooked up to it. It will pick up my DVD drive but not my harddrive (even if I have just one hooked up) is that an issue?Jumpers?

With only IDE cable I have my DVD drive and harddrive hooked up to it. It will pick up my DVD drive but not my harddrive (even if I have just one hooked up) is that an issue?


Also it will not pick up my keyboard (a USB keyboard) So I have not been able to continue or go to setup. If I do go to setup is it hard to figure out what it wants done?



I just got the stuff I needed today and I get this! *sob*

Sounds like you have knocked a cable loose.

I have no idea...

But I need someone to help me with creating a website in Fireworks CS3...

sounds to me like you need to check your BIOS settings, but without a functioning keybord that's not really possible is it?

possible things:
jumpers (on non-SATA drives)
power
BIOS settings
faulty drive


edit: ah, too late

BLASPHEMY! Jesus walked in the middle of the desert sandals...he didn't play any of your Satanic videogames
The "Technology is the work of the devil!!!"-stereotype is old, it's not funny any more.
:p Who said that?
Richard Cook said that according to this list of programming quotes (http://xona.com/quotes/programming.html).

I think the main reason why it's difficult to understand computers is that while our minds are designed to understand the physical world and have extensive experience of living in the physical world computer software lives in the virtual/digital world that seems different, weird, odd and mysterious to us humans.

The "Technology is the work of the devil!!!"-stereotype is old, it's not funny any more.


:(