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So if you had to chose from either Mod or Rocker which would you associate yourself with?

Personally id be a mod...cooler clothes...cooler music...cooler lifestyle...good hygiene and far better transport...love my scooters

How about you? ;)

Ugh, do I have to choose? Can't I go with nerd?

If by "Rocker" you mean "Rock Star" well then the choice is simple

Rock Star = Groupies...

If not...I don't really care

examples of mod music, plz?

i voted rocker, naturally.


i guess this is one that'll confuse the americans...

Mod Because..well i am a mod to be honest :p

examples of mod music, plz?

i voted rocker, naturally.


i guess this is one that'll confuse the americans...

*blinks*


*is confused*

*and too lazy to wiki*

All sorts, from early soul, ska and R'n'B to classic rock like The Who and The Jam.

i ask because i'm clued up on my rock, but am too lazy (like Sarkhaan :p) to look anything up ;)


though for his, and others' benefit: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mod_(lifestyle)

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mods_and_rockers

examples of mod music, plz?


All sorts, from early soul, ska and R'n'B to classic rock like The Who and The Jam.

All sorts, from early soul, ska and R'n'B to classic rock like The Who and The Jam.

Hence the conflict withe the Rockers

(The Jam are not classic rock by any stretch of the imagination, being neither classic nor rock)

Rocker, of course, I was one. Mods had to worry about having their hair done right or using the right length trousers, added to being obliged to travel around on overgrown hairdryers.
Rockers just had fun and didn't give a shit, as well as getting to use Vincents or Triumphs or other classic motorbikes.

Six of one, half a dozen of the other.

Hence the conflict withe the Rockers


Well you can just say that Rockers were into more American style rock and roll, blues rock and rockabilly, while Mods were more int under ground British rock on top of their jazz and soul tastes.


(The Jam are not classic rock by any stretch of the imagination, being neither classic nor rock)


Since when was classic rock anything but an extremely broad bordering on meaningless term anyway?


Rockers just had fun and didn't give a shit, as well as getting to use Vincents or Triumphs or other classic motorbikes.

Yeah but isn't wearing all leather riding around on massive low riding motorbikes a bit... village people gay these days?

I'd be a mod I think. I'd go with the whole smart thing rather than the leathers.

Plus The Who are awesome. ^_^

So if you had to chose from either Mod or Rocker which would you associate yourself with?

Personally id be a mod...cooler clothes...cooler music...cooler lifestyle...good hygiene and far better transport...love my scooters

How about you? ;)

"We are the Mods" as the saying goes.

Rocker, no questions about it. I always saw the Mods as stuck-up snobs and posers... Not to mention I always liked jeans, boots, and leather jackets.

Which of those groups listened to country music?

Which of those groups listened to country music?

Neither, really, but the Rocker's music of choice - Elvis and Eddie Cochran, for example - was closer to country.

Since several folks don't seem to get this one, here's a bit of history.

A Mod was a product of working class British youth of the mid-sixties. They portrayed an image of being stuck up, emulating the middle classes, snobbish and phoney. The Mod boys dressed in suits, neat narrow trousers, and pointed shoes. The girls displayed a boyish image. They darkened their eyes and wore their hair short to fit a unisex type of culture.

The Mods were essentially from London and the South East and were complete followers of the latest fashion. They consumed purple hearts (a mixture of amphetamine and barbiturates). Each had to have a Lambretta GT 200 or a Vespa GS 160. These were their scooters that they rode as part of their stigma that connected them to being a Mod.

Like most gangs of their time, The Mods had a very distinct, yet common interest in music. While the Beatles were enjoying immense popularity and success among Britain's mainstream society in the early 1960's, the first-wave of Mods pursued a different sound. They adopted modern jazz, which was a style of music originated in Black America. Through the jazz music of Black America, the Mods appeared to distinguish themselves from mainstream society. They seemed to be attracted to the "cool" demeanor and elegant clothing possessed by jazz musicians, and strived to emulate their style.

The American Jazz records were difficult to obtain in Liverpool, but the Mods preferred it this way. They hated commercialism and were drawn towards obscurity in their taste of music. As jazz grew in popularity, Mods began listening to Blues, Soul, Rhythm & Blues, and then moved on to Jamaican Bluebeat and Ska to stay ahead of the mainstream.

The Mods sparked a nationwide enthusiasm for Rhythm & Blues music that surpassed Jazz as the music of choice for young adults. They preferred the British bands who played a Rhythm & Blues style of music, such as The Rolling Stones, The Yardbirds, The Pretty Things, The Kinks, The Cyril Davis All-Stars, The Downliners, and The Small Faces.

The most popular and revolutionary band who could be labeled as Mods themselves were the High Numbers, later renamed The Who. They wore Mod outfits, had Mod hairstyles, and sang blues-based songs about being Mods, such as "I'm the Face", and "My Generation". The Who's performance often included Pete Townshend (guitarist) smashing his guitar into the speakers, as well as Keith Moon (drummer) knocking over his drums. The Who's violence on stage personified the aggression inherent in the Mod subculture.
http://www.stthomasu.ca/~pmccorm/modsandrockers2.html

As previously mentioned, The Mods were not the only gang that inhabited Liverpool in the mid-sixties. In contrast to much of the Mod’s styles and beliefs were The Rockers.

The Rockers enjoyed Rock and Roll, and their style consisted of jeans, boots and leather jackets. The Rockers were a British version of the Hell’s Angels motorcycle gang. They wore black leather and studs, had anti-authority beliefs, and projected an easy rider nomadic romanticism. The Rockers lived for the present, with a scruffy, masculine, ‘bad boy’ image.

The Rockers were essentially from the working class and despised any fashion. They each had the same hairstyle, shaggy with a bit of slick to it. The Ace Café was the hangout of the Rockers for the greasy foods and jukeboxes. Riding motorcycles was of the upmost importance, so they kept away from drugs and alcohol. The motorcycles were also modified or "souped up" in order to be in top racing form. Every Rocker had a ‘Triumph’ or a ‘Norton’, a brand of motorcycle.
http://www.stthomasu.ca/~pmccorm/modsandrockers3.html

i guess this is one that'll confuse the americans...

Not all of us. ;)

Hence the conflict withe the Rockers

(The Jam are not classic rock by any stretch of the imagination, being neither classic nor rock)

Rocker, of course, I was one. Mods had to worry about having their hair done right or using the right length trousers, added to being obliged to travel around on overgrown hairdryers.
Rockers just had fun and didn't give a shit, as well as getting to use Vincents or Triumphs or other classic motorbikes.

AB! It's been ages since I saw you post. Where you been hiding?

Neither, really, but the Rocker's music of choice - Elvis and Eddie Cochran, for example - was closer to country.

I'm officially a Rocker then.

Hmmm... looking at the poll, the rockers currently outnumber the mods two to one. Looks good for a stomping in the "Third Battle of Hastings". ;)

:::grabs a deckchair:::

I'm a mocker.

I'm a mocker.

Hiya, Ringo.

I have no idea about any of those groups unless Rocker means the people from Spinal Tap.

Rocker.

I have no idea about any of those groups unless Rocker means the people from Spinal Tap.

LOL One can lead a horse to water (http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showpost.php?p=13484438&postcount=16)...

Mod Because..well i am a mod to be honest :p

Rocker, coz I am one really.

which ever one clockwork orange was i would most want to NOT be.

the milkplus bar was sortof cool, but the rest of it was mostly crap.

no i'm too much of a hermitnerdwannabe, to see much of anything in either one.
creating and exploring are what i live for. companionship and accumulation are not. we've got too much of a culture of romantacizing beating each other over the head as it is now. in the u.s. of assmerica where i live. wouldn't know about gb, other then i think you still run a few more trains (per capita/per square mile) then we do, which is definately in my book a plus.

=^^=
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the mods had better music but their style is not mine by a long shot and scooters are shit. but music is far more important to me so i'll just go with being a mod.

i like scooters better then cars, but narrow gauge railways better then either of them. and either japanese gardens or wild forests WAAAAY better then parking lots (car parks i think you call them over there) anyway.

as for music, 'berlin school', i.e. tangarene dream/klaus shultze to rogue elements and numina and the like now.

=^^=
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I'll be a mocker. The mods liked better music, but fashion sucks, whereas the rockers had a better attitude, but motorcycles suck.

mods have ska which is all that needs to be said on the matter

well they also had better drugs but I would never encourage such a thing

Not particularly a fan of mod music, however, the clothes are better.

Not particularly a fan of mod music, however, the clothes are better.

wouldn't say that, having perfect white anything is a disaster

Rocker, baby.:cool:

Hmmm... looking at the poll, the rockers currently outnumber the mods two to one. Looks good for a stomping in the "Third Battle of Hastings". ;)

:::grabs a deckchair:::

haha Brighton is Mod central now.;..so you'd get killed!!

wouldn't say that, having perfect white anything is a disaster

I don't mind white shoes or t-shirts, but otherwise, agreed.

Scooters are for pretentious wankers.

Scooters are for pretentious wankers.

Heh or 'tha yoof' to pull wheelies.

I think its important to note, that while The Who started out as a "Mod Band", they quickly became anything but shortly there after.
By Roger Daltry's own words, they just got tired of having to look a certain way, do certain things, and play a particular kind of music.

In fact, The Who recorded the first Heavy Metal song ever.

Listen to thier cover of "Young Man Blues" on "Live at Leeds".
Thunderous drums, crunching distortion, and played blisteringly loud...

If thats not Metal, nothing is.

At one time...The Who rocked harder than anyone.

I think its important to note, that while The Who started out as a "Mod Band", they quickly became anything but shortly there after.
By Roger Daltry's own words, they just got tired of having to look a certain way, do certain things, and play a particular kind of music.

In fact, The Who recorded the first Heavy Metal song ever.

Listen to thier cover of "Young Man Blues" on "Live at Leeds".
Thunderous drums, crunching distortion, and played blisteringly loud...

If thats not Metal, nothing is.

At one time...The Who rocked harder than anyone.

Did The who start out a s Mod band? I always thought they where Blues.

No they were definitely a mod band - along with the Small Faces, the Yardbirds and the Kinks.

The Yarbirds definatly started out as a blues band.

Did The who start out a s Mod band? I always thought they where Blues.

No they were definitely a mod band - along with the Small Faces, the Yardbirds and the Kinks.

The Yarbirds definatly started out as a blues band.

The mods came out of the people who were going to the jazz and blues clubs - so some of the bands definitely were blues based. The Who were more art school than blues though.

The mods came out of the people who were going to the jazz and blues clubs - so some of the bands definitely were blues based. The Who were more art school than blues though.

Strange then that the Mods and Rockers where at each others throat if their music was based on the same sort of things huh!

Strange then that the Mods and Rockers where at each others throat if their music was based on the same sort of things huh!

Thats young people for you - they are all fools I tell you.

I'll be a mocker. The mods liked better music, but fashion sucks, whereas the rockers had a better attitude, but motorcycles suck.

Indeed. Dais likes a lot of the music that came out of the Mods, utterely despises anything to do with "fashion", likes the Rockers attitude, and doesn't ride (but likes bikes better than cars...)

haha Brighton is Mod central now.;..so you'd get killed!!

Heh. The thread's still getting run by the Rockers - almost 2 1/2 to 1 now...

Bit of both. My iPod is full of jazz and rockabilly (on top of early 20th C pop, and classical), and I wear Fred Perry shirts over my Levi's 501s

Heh. The thread's still getting run by the Rockers - almost 2 1/2 to 1 now...


Ah but thats only because of ignorance to what a mod is...the whole mod/scooter movement encompasses many aspects of music including ska/reggae/rock steady and in particular northern soul too...rock...well thats just rock :cool:

Rocker

i guess this is one that'll confuse the americans...

We're always left out of the loop it seems....


Can I claim Texan as my nationality?

In fact, The Who recorded the first Heavy Metal song ever.

Listen to thier cover of "Young Man Blues" on "Live at Leeds".

Wikipedia puts "Live at Leeds" in May 1970, but "Black Sabbath" in February 1970.

In fact, The Who recorded the first Heavy Metal song ever.

Listen to thier cover of "Young Man Blues" on "Live at Leeds".

I love that song. And I have that exact version. For early heavy metal, I have to recommend Lucifer's Friend and their first album.

Bit of both. My iPod is full of jazz and rockabilly (on top of early 20th C pop, and classical), and I wear Fred Perry shirts over my Levi's 501s

Ahhh King Kurt huh! I remember them days. ever heard of a group called Big Captain Organ?

Rocker, without question.

From the wiki article the mods seem to be self-righteous, holier than thou, pansies.;)

Rocker, without question.

From the wiki article the mods seem to be self-righteous, holier than thou, pansies.;)

Heh that is certianly how I remember it from the 80's revival!

Ah but thats only because of ignorance to what a mod is...the whole mod/scooter movement encompasses many aspects of music including ska/reggae/rock steady and in particular northern soul too...rock...well thats just rock :cool:

Seems the poll's almost 3 to 1 against you now...

Rocker, without question.

From the wiki article the mods seem to be self-righteous, holier than thou, pansies.;)

Indeed.

Heh that is certianly how I remember it from the 80's revival!

And so you should...

Mod(erator).

I love that song. And I have that exact version. For early heavy metal, I have to recommend Lucifer's Friend and their first album.How'd you find a copy of that? Or did you download it? *shudder*

ummm, both . . . cept the scooter, I hate those things.

Rikki Rockett (yeah that guy) has been working on a film called Hooligan (http://www.hooliganfilm.com/hooligan_allframes.html) for quite some time now. It focus's more on modern form of the rockers and more specifically cafe bikes, than the traditional 60's rockers. I've written to him a couple times to find out what's going on with the film but I've yet to hear back.

And for the record, MODS SUCK.

How'd you find a copy of that? Or did you download it? *shudder*

Young Man Blues? I have the record. (My dad bought it)

So if you had to chose from either Mod or Rocker which would you associate yourself with?

Personally id be a mod...cooler clothes...cooler music...cooler lifestyle...good hygiene and far worse transport...love my scooters

How about you? ;)

Fixed


Rocker