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http://www.politico.com/news/stories/0208/8667.html

Good to see the Clintons have changed thier ways.

Oh, yeah, they haven't.

http://www.drudgereport.com/oa.jpg

Honestly, that's a point in favor in my books. If Mr. Obama can respect foreign cultures this way, maybe the US can get back on track with it's international affairs, which are, afterall, the baliwick of the president. Better than Ms. "I don't know WTF's going on in Pakistan" Clinton...

Wait, whut?

Isn't at least a willingness to immerse oneself in another's culture the sign of a superior dignitary? How can anyone find this insulting?

If Clinton did intend to use this as a smear tactic, it is feeble at best, shameful on any regular day, and flat-out stupid at worst.

I think this will increase Obama's support not diminish it. Clinton has basically shot herself in the foot. It shows she can't take other cultures as seriously as a President should. At least Obama shows he is entirely US centric.

He isn't alone...

http://www.drudgereport.com/cc1.jpg
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So I have to ask: does it really matter? While Drudge might be a hack, his site makes a good point: Hillary, her husband, and Georgie have all donned ethnic garb when appropriate, so whats the story?
Because Obama looks good doing it? I don't know.

He isn't alone...

http://www.drudgereport.com/cc1.jpg
http://www.drudgereport.com/bc.jpg
http://www.drudgereport.com/cc2.jpg
So I have to ask: does it really matter? While Drudge might be a hack, his site makes a good point: Hillary, her husband, and Georgie have all donned ethnic garb when appropriate, so whats the story?

hang on...red shirt with a white cross you say!

why hes just following imperial tradition :D (red coats FTW!)

So he's wearing different clothes from usual.
and i should be concerned because?

This will only help Obama, in the end.

I see this as a subtle pandering to both the "zomg Obama hates America!" and the "Obama is teh ebil moslam!" crowd.


I liked Bill. I hate him now. I have been disgusted with the Clintons since their campaign began.

Good for Obama for that.

But I'm confused about the article. Is the Clinton camp actually passing it about, or are they stating that accusing them of passing it about is wrong for what it insinuates?

Ah, politics.

ZOMGZ OBAMA IS T3H Eb1L MOZLEMZ!


someone had to do it...:p

Like Teddy once said. "Speak softly and carry a big stick". Obama is a good leader, and will be a good leader. Obama can DESTORY Clinton using two words. Monika Lewinsky.

Clintons said they "fired" the media staff worker that made that article about him being Muslim. This is all a set up by the Clintons.

ZOMGZ OBAMA IS T3H Eb1L MOZLEMZ!


someone had to do it...:p


Oohhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh

I thought they were trying to say that he was gay for wearing a dress.

Honestly, that's a point in favor in my books. If Mr. Obama can respect foreign cultures this way, maybe the US can get back on track with it's international affairs, which are, afterall, the baliwick of the president. Better than Ms. "I don't know WTF's going on in Pakistan" Clinton...

Majority of Americans don't think like that though, their thought process is basically 'omg teh ebil moslems!!!!'

Hillary is getting so desperate its almost sad. Thank god she won't be President. She truly is a crazy bitch.

The average person in this country has thought processes? Since when?

since they started watching 'are you smarter than a 5th grader?' Its right at their level.

Majority of Americans don't think like that though, their thought process is basically 'omg teh ebil moslems!!!!'

The average person in this country has thought processes? Since when?

clinton is trying to play on the fears of americans. since it is obama, he was raised a muslim, his middle name is hussein, and he is dresse dlike a somali. i don't say that that stuff is bad but look at it from this view point.
most of the terrorists we are fighting are islamic and from the middle east. and don't forget the black hawk down incident in somalia. the clintons are jsut trying to make him appear freindly to terrorists. same old same old from the clinton camp

Majority of Americans don't think like that though, their thought process is basically 'omg teh ebil moslems!!!!'

Luck has it that most Americans do not vote regularly. As for the pic I think most people get that it is a positive attribute to be immersed in another culture.

Clinton is trying to play on the fears of Americans. since it is Obama, he was raised a Muslim, his middle name is Hussein, and he is dressed like a Somali. i don't say that that stuff is bad but look at it from this view point.
most of the terrorists we are fighting are Islamic and from the middle east. and don't forget the black hawk down incident in Somalia. the Clinton's are just trying to make him appear friendly to terrorists. same old same old from the Clinton camp

As opposed to not actually capturing Osama while he had the chance. If anyone was friendly to terrorist it was inaction on the part of the Clinton camp.


Edit: My spellchecker sure did not like your post BR.

http://www.drudgereport.com/oa.jpg

"A great President, a great nation, are not afraid to talk to their adversaries" - Barack Obama

Aside from that, this picture's a big plus for Obama since it proves that he isn't arrogant and thinks that all other cultures are inferior to Western cultures.

"A great President, a great nation, are not afraid to talk to their adversaries" - Barack Obama

Aside from that, this picture's a big plus for Obama since it proves that he isn't arrogant and thinks that all other cultures are inferior to Western cultures.

Sadly, that may not be a plus is a US election.

I think it's great that he respects other cultures.

And I believe Hilary Clinton respects other cultures, too.

I think it's great that he respects other cultures.

And I believe Hilary Clinton respects other cultures, too.

Hell, I think at this point most of us would be thrilled as long as our president didn't see other cultures/countries as "target practice."

I'm still in the dark as to what the fucking deal is? His father was Kenyan, he visited Kenya, and was given traditional robes reflecting his status as an honored guest and now both sides are up in arms?

Hillary is getting so desperate its almost sad. Thank god she won't be President. She truly is a crazy bitch.

Yeh, she must be a crazy bitch.

She gives to charity, she's intelligent, she's compassionate. How crazy is THAT!

You know, crazy bitches are always that succesful.

Paris Hilton would be a much better choice.

Or a republican! :rolleyes:

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[SIZE="1"]Yeh, she must be a crazy bitch.

She gives to charity, she's intelligent, she's compassionate. How crazy is THAT!


No, just another corrupt mud slinging politician who shows no scruples whatsoever.

Welcome to 21st century politics, please leave scruples and sense of decency at the door.

Good for Obama for that.

But I'm confused about the article. Is the Clinton camp actually passing it about, or are they stating that accusing them of passing it about is wrong for what it insinuates?

Ah, politics.

Probably both.

Yeh, she must be a crazy bitch.

She gives to charity, she's intelligent, she's compassionate. How crazy is THAT!

You know, crazy bitches are always that succesful.

Paris Hilton would be a much better choice.

Or a republican! :rolleyes:

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Well Id debate compassionate. I think she gives to charity because it looks good in regards to PR and because its a tax right off. She also sat on the board at WALMART. It takes one truely soulless to be involved in that company.

But mostly, shes a crazy bitch because shes bat shit crazy, a corperate whore, plays dirty politics, an authoratarian war monger, pro-censorship, etc.

Hell, at least Paris Hilton wouldnt blow up other countries. Shed just fuck their leaders and be done with it.

Majority of Americans don't think like that though, their thought process is basically 'omg teh ebil moslems!!!!'

Oh yes, we're just dumb sheeps us Americans, we can't think for ourselves. :rolleyes:

Get over yourself.

Oh yes, we're just dumb sheeps us Americans, we can't think for ourselves. :rolleyes:

Get over yourself.
No, it's true. There's this mentality in America, and people won't say anything about it unless they feel comfortable, but it's there in the email forwards and inbetween the lines of daily conversation. After decades of Arab terrorists portrayed on television and the movies and the news, culminating in 9/11, and sadly without meaningful real life encounters with Muslims for most Americans, there is a stereotype that is now very ingrained into the American psyche.

Towel on head + brown + Barack HUSSEIN Obama = TERRORIST TERRORIST TERRORIST TRIPLE THREAT

Oh, and he's black and gives speeches, therefore he must be a Black Muslim who loves Farrakhan and wants to kill all Whitey and the Jews too.

No, it's true. There's this mentality in America, and people won't say anything about it unless they feel comfortable, but it's there in the email forwards and inbetween the lines of daily conversation. After decades of Arab terrorists portrayed on television and the movies and the news, culminating in 9/11, and sadly without meaningful real life encounters with Muslims for most Americans, there is a stereotype that is now very ingrained into the American psyche.

Towel on head + brown + Barack HUSSEIN Obama = TERRORIST TERRORIST TERRORIST TRIPLE THREAT

Oh, and he's black and gives speeches, therefore he must be a Black Muslim who loves Farrakhan and wants to kill all Whitey and the Jews too.

Sadly, this is true.

The Clinton campaign issued an official response to the growing tempest - but the statement from campaign manager Maggie Williams did not respond to the central question of whether staffers circulated the photo.

“Enough,” Williams said in the statement. “If Barack Obama's campaign wants to suggest that a photo of him wearing traditional Somali clothing is divisive, they should be ashamed. Hillary Clinton has worn the traditional clothing of countries she has visited and had those photos published widely.

“This is nothing more than an obvious and transparent attempt to distract from the serious issues confronting our country today and to attempt to create the very divisions they claim to decry. We will not be distracted.”
She makes a good point. Being outraged is a disappointing response. More satisfying would have been to say, "So?"

Didn't Khrushchev or Bukharin do this during a Soviet world tour in the 1950's?

COINCIDENCE???

Didn't Khrushchev or Bukharin do this during a Soviet world tour in the 1950's?

COINCIDENCE???

I thought Clinton was the "communist"
It's kind of funny how each of them has been ridiculously labeled with the fear of the year. Clinton as a communist and Obama as a Terrorist.

http://www.politico.com/news/stories/0208/8667.html

Good to see the Clintons have changed thier ways.

Oh, yeah, they haven't.

http://www.drudgereport.com/oa.jpg

My dad tried to pass it off by saying that "Oh, it's also possible that the Obama campaign did it just to accuse the Clinton campaign, and stuff like this at lower levels goes on all the time, so just ignore it." As usual, he's ignoring the reality about Mrs. Clinton. Methinks he won't recognize the reality until she's conceding.

On another note...am I the only one who thinks the outfit makes him look like a teenager? :D

http://www.drudgereport.com/cc1.jpgIs that from King Hussein's funeral?

Barak and Bill both look OK, only slightly silly, in the "colorful native garb". George and Hillary look majorly silly.

When the election campaigning started I didn't care too much who won as long as it was a Democrat, but now I'm backing Obama 100%.

Disclaimer: as I'm not a citizen of the United States I will not be voting for him, neither do I intend to send his campaign any money, but I will send positive thoughts his way. :p

No, it's true. There's this mentality in America, and people won't say anything about it unless they feel comfortable, but it's there in the email forwards and inbetween the lines of daily conversation. After decades of Arab terrorists portrayed on television and the movies and the news, culminating in 9/11, and sadly without meaningful real life encounters with Muslims for most Americans, there is a stereotype that is now very ingrained into the American psyche.

Towel on head + brown + Barack HUSSEIN Obama = TERRORIST TERRORIST TERRORIST TRIPLE THREAT

Oh, and he's black and gives speeches, therefore he must be a Black Muslim who loves Farrakhan and wants to kill all Whitey and the Jews too.

Just because the vast majority of Americans are idiots (as are the vast majority of all people), doesn't mean that all Americans are.

Oh yes, we're just dumb sheeps us Americans, we can't think for ourselves. :rolleyes:

Get over yourself.
I hate to say it, but, for may Americans, he is right. They may not be entirely open about it, but it's there, if you read between the lines.

She makes a good point. Being outraged is a disappointing response. More satisfying would have been to say, "So?"

I disagree. I don't think the outrage is so much over "how dare you accuse me of wearing native garb?!" but more "it's insulting that you would imply that this is a negative."

I disagree. I don't think the outrage is so much over "how dare you accuse me of wearing native garb?!" but more "it's insulting that you would imply that this is a negative."

But that's exactly the same thing the spokesperson I quoted is saying, and the point I thought was good. It's not divisive and it is common. If both camps are saying the same thing then what the hell? Then at this point it seems like Drudge starting a fight by pinching both parties while they weren't looking and then saying, "Hey, why would you do that? You shouldn't allow it!"

Which would have not worked had the Obama campaign's reaction had been, "So? I remember that day, good times..."

Didn't Khrushchev or Bukharin do this during a Soviet world tour in the 1950's?

COINCIDENCE???

Bukharin would have had a job doing so; he was executed in 1938....

Yeh, she must be a crazy bitch.

She gives to charity, she's intelligent, she's compassionate. How crazy is THAT!

You know, crazy bitches are always that succesful.

Paris Hilton would be a much better choice.

Or a republican! :rolleyes:

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How is that a stupid comment? To use a photo of him trying on the local dress of a country of which he is a guest as an attack tool is absolutely pathetic. I have no respect for her, she's acting like a child and showing she is clearly incapable of being President.

No, it's true. There's this mentality in America, and people won't say anything about it unless they feel comfortable, but it's there in the email forwards and inbetween the lines of daily conversation. After decades of Arab terrorists portrayed on television and the movies and the news, culminating in 9/11, and sadly without meaningful real life encounters with Muslims for most Americans, there is a stereotype that is now very ingrained into the American psyche.

Towel on head + brown + Barack HUSSEIN Obama = TERRORIST TERRORIST TERRORIST TRIPLE THREAT

Oh, and he's black and gives speeches, therefore he must be a Black Muslim who loves Farrakhan and wants to kill all Whitey and the Jews too.

Yeah but most of those Americans can't be bothered to get up off their asses and vote.

Yeah but most of those Americans can't be bothered to get up off their asses and vote.
That's why they have to be SCARED off their asses. Vote for McCain or the military will turn gay and turn you gay too and the Democrats will use affirmative action to invite terrorists to come teach Islam to your children, who will then go blow themselves up in a mall when you're shopping! You don't want to be gay, DO YOU?

That's why they have to be SCARED off their asses. Vote for McCain or the military will turn gay and turn you gay too and the Democrats will use affirmative action to invite terrorists to come teach Islam to your children, who will then go blow themselves up in a mall when you're shopping! You don't want to be gay, DO YOU?

Have you ever thought of being a Republican propagandist- erm, speechwriter? :p

How is that a stupid comment? To use a photo of him trying on the local dress of a country of which he is a guest as an attack tool is absolutely pathetic. I have no respect for her, she's acting like a child and showing she is clearly incapable of being President.

Exactly. It just proves she's a power hungry bitch with no scruples who will do anything - anything - to get elected.

http://www.drudgereport.com/bc.jpg


I can see the thought going through his head.
"Ima Wizard!"

seriously, this is such a non-issue it's sad.

It is threads like these, and the attitudes therein, with their excessive hatred, that will leave Democrats scratching their heads wondering why they cannot elect a Democrat President.

I am sure that President McCain will be forever grateful.

You just assume that everyone who doesn't vote is too lazy?

Let's see. If you a person who really doesn't understand why anyone cares about the gays, wonders who could be stupid enough to oppose teaching about evolution and stem cell research and wonder why more of these broke ass bitches don't get abortions and disagree with pretty much all of the other social conservative views, you certainly don't want to vote for McCain. However, at the same time, you despise racial identity politics, want to be able to defend your home with your revolver, oppose higher taxes and really doesn't understand why they didn't execute everyone in Gitmo about 6 years ago, then you certainly don't want to vote for Obama or Hillary. So you say, fuck it and don't vote.

I guess it's sort of like the people who say that all these anti-war movies coming out have bombed because of apathy. Most people who think the war is idiotic do not want to see a bunch of weak leftist bullshit about the poor terrorists being tortured or about some boys that went off the reservation in Iraq.

I'll never vote, because democracy has failed the west, we need brutal realism.

Let's see. If you a person who really doesn't understand why anyone cares about the gaysYeah, I mean it's not like they're people or anything.

and wonder why more of these broke ass bitches don't get abortionsUs liberals know why. It's because they're too BROKE and they need more HANDOUTS so they can MURDER THEIR BABY, becuase we really get off on that shit. In fact, don't tell anybody, but our plan to give away condoms with every elementary school lunch is only to encourage children to have the kind of kinky sex detailed in their sex ed classes, so they'll have to get ABORTIONS which we masturbate to just thinking about!

However, at the same time, you despise racial identity politics,Or people of other races in general! Barack Obama? More like Black-Orama. He says all "I reject identity politics" and "I'm not running as a black man" but you know the first thing he's gonna do as president is make P-funk's Chocolate City our national anthem.
want to be able to defend your home with your revolver, From terrorists and gangbangers. Bring 'em on! Come on, they gotta be somewhere! I've got a home stereo... Please?
oppose higher taxesexcept for our kids
and really doesn't understand why they didn't execute everyone in Gitmo about 6 years ago,I, I just don't get it. Why would we NOT execute all the prisoners who haven't been convicted of a crime? Especially the ones the tribes of the Northern Alliance just rounded up off the streets to curry favor with us... I means, they're still brown and shit, so it's not like they're innocent, right?

I'll never vote, because democracy has failed the west, we need brutal realism.Sounds like fascism would fulfill your desires.

I wasn't insulting homosexuals if that's what you implied, I was simply saying that a lot people of people simply don't care about gays getting married. It's so ridiculous that we have that as a major issue. Myself, I've never understand why anyone else could possibly care what you do in the bedroom with any other consenting adults.

I wasn't insulting homosexuals if that's what you implied, I was simply saying that a lot people of people simply don't care about gays getting married. It's so ridiculous that we have that as a major issue. Myself, I've never understand why anyone else could possibly care what you do in the bedroom with any other consenting adults.

The problem isn't what gays are doing in the bedroom, it's that Republicans are trying to stop them from doing it--unless they do it in airport restrooms, of course.

It is threads like these, and the attitudes therein, with their excessive hatred, that will leave Democrats scratching their heads wondering why they cannot elect a Democrat President.

I am sure that President McCain will be forever grateful.

Yeah, like when the Bush campaign circulating mailers suggesting McCain had a black baby and was borderline insane kept the Republicans from the White Ho-...wwwwaaaaiiiiiiit a minute...

I can see the thought going through his head.
"Ima Wizard!"

More like "LooK! I'm a Karatay Mastur and I've learned how ta kill with my bear hands. Hoo-ah!"

How is that a stupid comment? To use a photo of him trying on the local dress of a country of which he is a guest as an attack tool is absolutely pathetic. I have no respect for her, she's acting like a child and showing she is clearly incapable of being President.

I don't think the words "crazy bitch" usually come under the umbrella of "intelligent comments".