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http://pakistaniat.com/2008/02/22/youtube-blocked-in-pakistan-why

To summarize it all:

Pakistan has banned access to YouTube because of what it deems blasphemous (I.E. anti-Islamic) material posted on the website.

What do you think? Acceptable or not?

A dictatorship cracking down on the freedom of communication! :eek:

Say it ain't so!

Apparently, it's not going to be a dictatorship for long...

But anyway, I don't think that even Saudi Arabia has banned YouTube. I have been told by Muslims that Pakistan is a corrupt nation (from Islam's point of view). I have also been told by Pakistanis (who may or may not be Muslim) that the country is one of the most liberal Islamic states out there. That's why this reason for banning it comes as a shock.

http://pakistaniat.com/2008/02/22/youtube-blocked-in-pakistan-why

To summarize it all:

Pakistan has banned access to YouTube because of what it deems blasphemous (I.E. anti-Islamic) material posted on the website.

What do you think? Acceptable or not?

Let us all take a moment and solemly honor the memory of YouTube, which won´t be able to make Pakistani people happy anymore.:(

Crazy fundies...

A dictatorship cracking down on the freedom of communication! :eek:

Say it ain't so!

A dictatorship cracking down on the freedom of communication! :eek:

Say it ain't so!

:eek:

Pakistan is actually becoming worse...:(

:eek:

Some posters on Slashdot thinks it's just a cover story for blocking information about vote rigging in Pakistan, and, as we all know, Slashdot is always right.

There is apparently a couple of videos up on youtube about that. I looked at one of them, and I'm sure it would have been very enlightening if only I understood the language.

Update: Not only have they banned access, they were also accidently responsible for the site being down everywhere else in the world (http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/technology/7262071.stm) for about an hour earlier today.

Update: Not only have they banned access, they were also accidently responsible for the site being down everywhere else in the world (http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/technology/7262071.stm) for about an hour earlier today.
Wow.

Users are quite upset. They're screaming at ISPs which can't do anything.
I find this very encouraging. If there's anything that will solve ignorance and intolerance, it's the internet and other means of effectively communicating with the rest of the world, and of course the will to do it.

What are they missing exactly?
A bit laughable to block something like that.
Ah they'l grow up one day.

They have computers in Pakistan now? Whattayaknow.

There's plenty of other video sites like MetaCafe around, so it's not going to work ...

A dictatorship cracking down on the freedom of communication! :eek:

Say it ain't so!

No, really? Shocking! :eek:

Apparently, it's not going to be a dictatorship for long...

But anyway, I don't think that even Saudi Arabia has banned YouTube. I have been told by Muslims that Pakistan is a corrupt nation (from Islam's point of view). I have also been told by Pakistanis (who may or may not be Muslim) that the country is one of the most liberal Islamic states out there. That's why this reason for banning it comes as a shock.

It is rather strange. There are mullahs and such that I could see protesting YouTube for it's supposed corrupting effect, but I cannot see the government bowing down to their demands on this issue. I would say it's not for religious/moral reasons, but political ones.

Next they will ban Yak wrestling in Mongolia.

Next they will ban Yak wrestling in Mongolia.

I´m truly sorry but I have to laugh hysterically at what you just posted. I can just imagine the announcement of Yak wrestling being banned!:D

Honestly, who is really surprised? Saudi Arabia will do it one day too Jay, they like to do a lot to keep the Wahabbis happy. Pakistan has a large % of similar minded fanatics as well.

http://pakistaniat.com/2008/02/22/youtube-blocked-in-pakistan-why

To summarize it all:

Pakistan has banned access to YouTube because of what it deems blasphemous (I.E. anti-Islamic) material posted on the website.

What do you think? Acceptable or not?

SOme countries don't want to be part of the global community apparently. Fuck em.

http://pakistaniat.com/2008/02/22/youtube-blocked-in-pakistan-why

To summarize it all:

Pakistan has banned access to YouTube because of what it deems blasphemous (I.E. anti-Islamic) material posted on the website.

What do you think? Acceptable or not?

Like any other censorship, not acceptable.

Who's on the list this adds to again...
-Turkey...
-...

good for them.

good for them.

What exactly makes it "Good"?

What exactly makes it "Good"?

the fact I don't live there and thus could care less about what they do as it does not affect me. What did you think I meant?

the fact I don't live there and thus could care less about what they do as it does not affect me. What did you think I meant?

That you have some problem with YouTube?

That you have some problem with YouTube?

Oh no. I love youtube.

Some posters on Slashdot thinks it's just a cover story for blocking information about vote rigging in Pakistan, and, as we all know, Slashdot is always right.

There is apparently a couple of videos up on youtube about that. I looked at one of them, and I'm sure it would have been very enlightening if only I understood the language.

I thought so (and still think so) and posted this coupla days back

http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showpost.php?p=13474753&postcount=18

i really am not surprised.

the fact I don't live there and thus could care less about what they do as it does not affect me. What did you think I meant?

Was not sure thats why I asked ... hard to tell a sarcastic and non sarcastic endorsement

What are they missing exactly?
A bit laughable to block something like that.
Ah they'l grow up one day.

Amen. Trying to talk to people about politics on there is like attempting to communicate with <George Bush> a rock.

Looks like Im going to have to start a suicide bombing franchise in Pakistan until they bring back YouTube. If they arent going to follow my YouTube Theocracy then they will have to die. Whos first to sign up?

Well, we all know what happened to Scientology after they 'declared war' or the internet... Presumably Anonymous will raid Pakistan for epic lulz.

Anyone who finds this surprising just hasn't been paying attention.

The only thing that is surprising is that the Land of the Impure and the other territories unfortunate enough to have been overrun by the world's most intolerant creed have taken this long to pull up the latest weed of free expression poking up through the rubble of Moslem oppression.

Clearly, free thought is to Islam as kryptonite is to Superman.

Anyone who finds this surprising just hasn't been paying attention.

The only thing that is surprising is that the Land of the Impure and the other territories unfortunate enough to have been overrun by the world's most intolerant creed have taken this long to pull up the latest weed of free expression poking up through the rubble of Moslem oppression.

Clearly, free thought is to Islam as kryptonite is to Superman.

I seriously, seriously doubt this is due to Islamic fanaticism and significantly more likley to be Musharrif desperatly trying to hold onto some last shreds of power before the new government no confidences him and throws him out (possibly by trying to appeal to the fanatical element)

The Pakistani government is not really on the side islamic extremist groups:
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/south_asia/7005140.stm


Also "Land of the Impure"? Seriously? Is that a technical geographic term then?

Also "Land of the Impure"? Seriously? Is that a technical geographic term then?

Pak = Pure in Urdu. Pakistan = Land of the Pure (as against the dirty kaffir hindus of hindustan):p.

Pak = Pure in Urdu. Pakistan = Land of the Pure (as against the dirty kaffir hindus of hindustan):p.

Ah... it was a typo, he meant to say Land of the Pure then :D

Actually I didn't know that, it is always fascinating to find out where names of countries come from. Often tells you a lot about the various populations who have lived there.

Ah... it was a typo, he meant to say Land of the Pure then :D


Well, that's his way of mocking at Pakistanis.

Actually I didn't know that, it is always fascinating to find out where names of countries come from. Often tells you a lot about the various populations who have lived there.

It does. There is an element of achieving 'purity' behind how the state of Pakistan has evolved from getting rid of hindus and sikhs in '47 to ahmadis in 60s to shias in 80s and now even barelvi sunnis are targetted by salafi-deobandis sunnis.

^ just ignore trolls. Why feed them. This type of attention only spurs them to post more.

Meanwhile, Qari Saifullah Akhtar (the man Benazir accused of plotting her death) has been arrested.

He is no small fish in the pond. He is up there among the big sharks. He planned a coup to bring an islamic dictatorship in 95. Also involved in the Pearl killing. He was released from prison from Musharraf. His ties with ISI is very deep and until now he was untouchable.

Expect bombings in retaliation.

^ just ignore trolls. Why feed them. This type of attention only spurs them to post more.

Meanwhile, Qari Saifullah Akhtar (the man Benazir accused of plotting her death) has been arrested.

He is no small fish in the pond. He is up there among the big sharks. He planned a coup to bring an islamic dictatorship in 95. Also involved in the Pearl killing. He was released from prison from Musharraf. His ties with ISI is very deep and until now he was untouchable.

Expect bombings in retaliation.

I'm a troll? :(

I would assume he meant that New Mitanni is a troll, and is accusing you only of being a troll-feeder.

Oh. In that case...

*goes to delete earlier post*

They have computers in Pakistan now? Whattayaknow.

Your arrogance far surpases that of anyone on this board.

I'm a troll? :(

Of course not.:) I was referring to the other post. Sorry for the confusion.

http://pakistaniat.com/2008/02/22/youtube-blocked-in-pakistan-why

To summarize it all:

Pakistan has banned access to YouTube because of what it deems blasphemous (I.E. anti-Islamic) material posted on the website.

What do you think? Acceptable or not?

By blokin' freedom of communication they keep people ignorant and docile. Letting the ones with power stay in power, the rich get rich, the poor stay poor that's how it goes, everybody knows...

Not that many pakistanis have access to the internet in any case...

Your arrogance far surpases that of anyone on this board.

It's stupid too considering Pak has groups like GForce - a pretty good hacker group.

http://www.usatoday.com/tech/news/2001/10/26/hack-attack.htm

It's stupid too considering Pak has groups like GForce - a pretty good hacker group.

http://www.usatoday.com/tech/news/2001/10/26/hack-attack.htm

Yeah, but you know how Fass is, anyone who isnt in Sweden probably lives in the Dark Ages...

I've heard it's actually been un-blocked now.

Of course not.:) I was referring to the other post. Sorry for the confusion.

And I apologize for the misunderstanding. :)

I've heard it's actually been un-blocked now.

It has.
Link (http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/technology/7262071.stm)

Your arrogance far surpases that of anyone on this board.
HE SEES THE TRUTH!
Also, in relation to the article, I was wondering... What about the pro-Islamic videos on youtube? Just a thought (One of my rare few:p)