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Does anyone else do this?

Wilgrove
24-02-2008, 10:47
I notice that every time I watch a TV show or a movie, if it has to deal with aviation or has airplanes in it, I notice that they always screw things up, and I'm talking glaring mistakes. Of course whenever I comment on these mistakes, I get told that it's just a movie, or it's just a TV show. I know when we watch these programs we're suppose to suspend disbelief, but I can't really seem to turn that part of my brain off. Does anyone else act like I do when you catch movies or TV mistakes, or am I just weird?
Trollgaard
24-02-2008, 10:51
I notice that every time I watch a TV show or a movie, if it has to deal with aviation or has airplanes in it, I notice that they always screw things up, and I'm talking glaring mistakes. Of course whenever I comment on these mistakes, I get told that it's just a movie, or it's just a TV show. I know when we watch these programs we're suppose to suspend disbelief, but I can't really seem to turn that part of my brain off. Does anyone else act like I do when you catch movies or TV mistakes, or am I just weird?

I notice mistakes and implausible actions most of the time, unless I'm dead tired and just turn on the tv to zone out.
Turquoise Days
24-02-2008, 10:55
I do notice when they use stock footage of American jets instead of Soviet/Russian ones, that's always annoying. They could at least remove the roundels...

Dodgy geology is annoying, but thankfully rare.
Reeka
24-02-2008, 11:00
I notice that every time I watch a TV show or a movie, if it has to deal with aviation or has airplanes in it, I notice that they always screw things up, and I'm talking glaring mistakes. Of course whenever I comment on these mistakes, I get told that it's just a movie, or it's just a TV show. I know when we watch these programs we're suppose to suspend disbelief, but I can't really seem to turn that part of my brain off. Does anyone else act like I do when you catch movies or TV mistakes, or am I just weird?

I always notice when it is glaringly terrible musical or historical mistakes. Minus ten more if it is a historical musical mistake.
Wilgrove
24-02-2008, 11:01
I always notice when it is glaringly terrible musical or historical mistakes. Minus ten more if it is a historical musical mistake.

Give us an example of a glaringly terrible musical mistake.
Tongass
24-02-2008, 11:13
Give us an example of a glaringly terrible musical mistake.
Actors with instruments. Can't hold them right. Aren't playing them the way they would need to be played to produce the music they are play-syncing to. Retarded movements and facial expressions. Every single time you see an instrument on Star Trek they mess it up completely.
Alfegos
24-02-2008, 11:14
Primeval? Star Wars? Stealth? Torchwood?

While yes, there are some glaringly awful mistakes, with the laws of physics completely ignored in Star Wars, they are often good to watch (except Primeval and Stealth: one is a copy of Doctor Who, minus the good acting and SFX, the other is a film I got so bored pointing out mistakes and pieces of absolute rubbish that I gave up watching it directly)

As for music... you ever seen a medieval film where they play renaissance/baroque music?
Cannot think of a name
24-02-2008, 11:18
What trips me out the most is when they get filmmaking or television making wrong...I mean, all they need for a reference point is to turn around. How do they fuck up portraying what they're doing? (the answer is that 'truth' or 'realism' are not as important as what serves the story. If you want accurate, watch a verte documentary or a 'behind the scenes' thing.)

With cars-there's always one more 'Now I'm serious' gear for them to shift into.
Reeka
24-02-2008, 11:21
Give us an example of a glaringly terrible musical mistake.

Okay, give me... 12-ish hours on this one. I'm really drunk now. :rolleyes:
Reeka
24-02-2008, 11:24
Actors with instruments. Can't hold them right. Aren't playing them the way they would need to be played to produce the music they are play-syncing to. Retarded movements and facial expressions. Every single time you see an instrument on Star Trek they mess it up completely.

Okay, so my drunk ass can come up with one now. People who attempt to imitate Paul McCartney... but play right-handed!
Blouman Empire
24-02-2008, 11:50
I notice it all the time.

One of the biggest movies to do this was Top Gun, the scene where Tom Cruise sticks his finger up while flying is impossible to do (due to the g-force) and the US Air Force pilots don't actually have showers in the change room for one thing there aren't any unlike the movie, the strange thing about this is that the producers brought in a retired Air force pilot to consult them about inaccuracies so they could get it right, when he told them of the above mentioned things and of others of which I have now forgotten the producers told him that it doesn't matter because he told them they were going to do it anyway.
Rotovia-
24-02-2008, 12:12
I know both myself and my fiance often do; it can be really hard to tell your brain to just sit back and accept something it knows to be wrong.
Extreme Ironing
24-02-2008, 12:15
Actors with instruments. Can't hold them right. Aren't playing them the way they would need to be played to produce the music they are play-syncing to. Retarded movements and facial expressions. Every single time you see an instrument on Star Trek they mess it up completely.

This.

And when there are just complete lapses in logical storytelling.
SaintB
24-02-2008, 12:19
Generally the first time I watch a movie I suspend my disbelief.. after that its fair game.
Trollgaard
24-02-2008, 12:24
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[P.S. It's aeroplane, isn't it?]

That is an older spelling, but still works.
Amor Pulchritudo
24-02-2008, 12:28
I notice that every time I watch a TV show or a movie, if it has to deal with aviation or has airplanes in it, I notice that they always screw things up, and I'm talking glaring mistakes. Of course whenever I comment on these mistakes, I get told that it's just a movie, or it's just a TV show. I know when we watch these programs we're suppose to suspend disbelief, but I can't really seem to turn that part of my brain off. Does anyone else act like I do when you catch movies or TV mistakes, or am I just weird?

I notice things like that constantly, and (unfortunately for the people around me) I tend to be rather vocal about it. I notice the smallest things, but when I'm watching movies, it's helpful as a film student.

But, I also get really aggrivated if a music clip is morally offensive, or I notice if someone sings the wrong lyrics when they're performing at a pub. Noticing things gets really annoying, to be honest.

[P.S. It's aeroplane, isn't it?]
Midnight Rain
24-02-2008, 13:58
I point out historical mistakes in the movies or tv shows I watch. It annoys most of my friends and family.
Amor Pulchritudo
24-02-2008, 14:10
That is an older spelling, but still works.

It's not an "older" spelling, it's the correct spelling.

Aero = aerodynamics.

"Aeroplane" has nothing to do with air.

At least in countries where the English hasn't been bastar... Americanised.
Agerias
24-02-2008, 14:13
Personally, I just tell what the characters to do.

"Don't go in there! DON'T GO IN THERE!"

"Nuh uh! Don't trust him, Sandra. He only wants your diamonds *sob*"

"KICK THAT GUY IN THE STOMACH! Yeahhh"

Stuff like that.

I don't really care about inconsistencies, as long as the people in movie listen to my good advice.
Sirmomo1
24-02-2008, 14:22
If you want accurate, watch a verte documentary or a 'behind the scenes' thing.)


Yeah, not so much.
Cannot think of a name
24-02-2008, 15:21
Yeah, not so much.

Meh. For the purposes of my statement it's true enough.
Ashmoria
24-02-2008, 15:24
doesnt everyone who watches tv and movies stop to rant about it now and then?
Katganistan
24-02-2008, 15:28
...well if all of you are sitting behind me in the movie theater, kindly shut the heck up! I pay good money to see the film, not hear a debate about itbehind my head.

AFTER the film, all bets are off, of course.
Sirmomo1
24-02-2008, 15:30
Meh. For the purposes of my statement it's true enough.

That is true. I like to nitpick.
Mad hatters in jeans
24-02-2008, 15:43
I do that too, but mostly if i have to suffer a soap show pointing out all the completely un-likely things that people would do and how overreacting they are.
For films i do that all the time, but i shut up if other folks like the film, then i tell them how bad it was.
I hate cinemas, although it's nice to have a bigger screen and sound, the cost takes the piss, even for food.

EDIT: my favourite example is braveheart, where the battle of Steeeeeerling bridge is fought in the film, without a bridge, i mean the clue of the battle is in the name B R I D G E. Good for a bit of hacky hacky if that's your thing, even all the characters are completely wrong and i have only a rudimentry understanding of Scotland at that time.
SaintB
24-02-2008, 15:54
EDIT: my favourite example is braveheart, where the battle of Sterling bridge is fought in the film, without a bridge, i mean the clue of the battle is in the name B R I D G E. Good for a bit of hacky hacky if that's your thing, even all the characters are completely wrong and i have only a rudimentry understanding of Scotland at that time.

It was more exciting holding the battle in a wide open field, making it totally accurate would have been decidedly less interesting in the movie's terms.
Mad hatters in jeans
24-02-2008, 15:58
It was more exciting holding the battle in a wide open field, making it totally accurate would have been decidedly less interesting in the movie's terms.

but Bridge battles are way more fun, they could have done the part where an English knight (was reported to)have fought through half the Scottish army to escape.
I mean any battle with a bridge is always bloody. Open field? not in Scotland.
With the horses being impaled by the spears then the men being shut off and trapped, showing how one-sided it really was.
Troon
24-02-2008, 16:23
the battle of Sterling bridge

Stirling. Sterling is a currency.

Yeah, I'm guilty of seeing and pointing out mistakes. How angry I get depends on how "real" the film is trying to be (if it's a fantasy, I don't mind) and how close the mutilated subject is to my heart.

What really annoys me, though, is the inconsistencies in detective/crime programs. If the program is being a bit more subtle about it, I can't tell if I've seen a potential clue or just a stupid mistake.
SaintB
24-02-2008, 16:30
but Bridge battles are way more fun, they could have done the part where an English knight (was reported to)have fought through half the Scottish army to escape.
I mean any battle with a bridge is always bloody. Open field? not in Scotland.
With the horses being impaled by the spears then the men being shut off and trapped, showing how one-sided it really was.

Having an english knight fight his way out of the scottish clansmen would have been protraying th eneglish in a positive light in an off sort of way... the movie (like several other of his movies now that I think of it) wanted to portray the british in a very poor light.
Sel Appa
24-02-2008, 16:35
I notice that every time I watch a TV show or a movie, if it has to deal with aviation or has airplanes in it, I notice that they always screw things up, and I'm talking glaring mistakes. Of course whenever I comment on these mistakes, I get told that it's just a movie, or it's just a TV show. I know when we watch these programs we're suppose to suspend disbelief, but I can't really seem to turn that part of my brain off. Does anyone else act like I do when you catch movies or TV mistakes, or am I just weird?

There's a whole "Goofs" section on IMDb just for people like you.
Blouman Empire
24-02-2008, 16:35
It's not an "older" spelling, it's the correct spelling.

Aero = aerodynamics.

"Aeroplane" has nothing to do with air.

At least in countries where the English hasn't been bastar... Americanised.

Hear Hear, Americans use the word Airplane when refering to an Aeroplane due to their lazy style of using the english language.

The correct word is Aeroplane
Katganistan
24-02-2008, 17:41
Hear Hear, Americans use the word Airplane when refering to an Aeroplane due to their lazy style of using the english language.

The correct word is Aeroplane

Perhaps in British English, but in American English, it's airplane.
As it is also center, theater, color, neighbor and honor.
As what you call a lorry we call a truck, what you call the boot we call the trunk, and what you call the bonnet, we call the hood.

If you don't care for it, by all means, keep speaking the way you do. But we're going to continue to speak correct American English.
Anti-Social Darwinism
24-02-2008, 17:46
I think everyone who has an area of expertise notices and comments. My daughter nitpicks at everything health related and goes off at length when scientific errors crop up - which is far more frequently than I find comfortable. I pick at historical and social errors (for instance, in Pearl Harbor, when the military nurse became pregnant, she wasn't immediately processed out - in the military of the day, processing out pregnant women, married or not, was standard operating procedure - no deviations. Later in the movie, they had her not only sitting in the top secret operations area, but offering input! Even today, uncleared personnel would be barred from that situation. My daughter's boyfriend, a WWII airplane hobbyist, noticed that the airplanes used in the movie were the wrong ones for the time and place and went on a twenty minute rant about it).
Anti-Social Darwinism
24-02-2008, 17:48
...well if all of you are sitting behind me in the movie theater, kindly shut the heck up! I pay good money to see the film, not hear a debate about itbehind my head.

AFTER the film, all bets are off, of course.

ditto.
Dyakovo
24-02-2008, 18:01
I notice that every time I watch a TV show or a movie, if it has to deal with aviation or has airplanes in it, I notice that they always screw things up, and I'm talking glaring mistakes. Of course whenever I comment on these mistakes, I get told that it's just a movie, or it's just a TV show. I know when we watch these programs we're suppose to suspend disbelief, but I can't really seem to turn that part of my brain off. Does anyone else act like I do when you catch movies or TV mistakes, or am I just weird?

Yes, for me its military equipment that I usually notice though.
Dyakovo
24-02-2008, 18:03
I notice it all the time.

One of the biggest movies to do this was Top Gun, the scene where Tom Cruise sticks his finger up while flying is impossible to do (due to the g-force) and the US Navy pilots don't actually have showers in the change room for one thing there aren't any unlike the movie, the strange thing about this is that the producers brought in a retired Navy pilot to consult them about inaccuracies so they could get it right, when he told them of the above mentioned things and of others of which I have now forgotten the producers told him that it doesn't matter because he told them they were going to do it anyway.

fixed
Dyakovo
24-02-2008, 18:05
It's not an "older" spelling, it's the correct spelling.

Aero = aerodynamics.

"Aeroplane" has nothing to do with air.

At least in countries where the English hasn't been bastar... Americanised.

Thusly the difference, in the U.S. the proper spelling is airplane.
Khadgar
24-02-2008, 19:10
Fight scenes get me. Way to pass up completely obvious openings to end a fight quickly. I swear no one in hollywood has ever been in a damned fight.
Laerod
24-02-2008, 19:12
I notice that every time I watch a TV show or a movie, if it has to deal with aviation or has airplanes in it, I notice that they always screw things up, and I'm talking glaring mistakes. Of course whenever I comment on these mistakes, I get told that it's just a movie, or it's just a TV show. I know when we watch these programs we're suppose to suspend disbelief, but I can't really seem to turn that part of my brain off. Does anyone else act like I do when you catch movies or TV mistakes, or am I just weird?I do this all the time. It's a game I play when watching movies. Such as a recent Snipes movie. I was intrigued by the fact that the Captain of the Carrier was wearing a cap with the letters SSN on it...

EDIT: And then there was this cheap movie about a town being plagued by natural gasses (methane and some sulfides) that were knocking people out and catching fire, all due to the greed of an oil-field owner. The fun part about the knocking out was that the people didn't notice, despite the fact that methane and sulfur-based hydrocarbon gasses aren't scentless at all...
Poliwanacraca
24-02-2008, 19:55
I'll not infrequently nitpick after a movie/TV show ends, but the only thing that ever really gets me complaining during the actual show is crappy writing. So, for example, when on shows with technical jobs, characters are suddenly visited by the Exposition Fairy and start explaining things to each other that it is entirely implausible that they would not already know ("Hello, fellow brilliant doctor. Let me explain what certain basic medical terms mean to you, despite the fact that you would never have graduated from med school if you didn't know this shit."), I have a tendency to laugh at them. :p
Vojvodina-Nihon
24-02-2008, 20:11
Yeah, I'm rather incapable of suspending disbelief. Plot holes; plot inaccuracies; historical inaccuracies; illogical behavior or characters; overreliance on technobabble and jargon; all, when noticed, are subject to ridicule. Of course, I also roll my eyes at perfectly plausible but overused scenes (i.e. the stock death scene; the predictably "deep" dialogue moments; the special-effects-based fight scene; the bits and pieces of nudity or gore just so the movie doesn't come out with only a PG-13 rating; et cetera) and poor writing (i'm sure everyone has encountered this).

I guess there's a reason I almost never watch movies.
Anti-Social Darwinism
24-02-2008, 21:17
Yeah, I'm rather incapable of suspending disbelief. Plot holes; plot inaccuracies; historical inaccuracies; illogical behavior or characters; overreliance on technobabble and jargon; all, when noticed, are subject to ridicule. Of course, I also roll my eyes at perfectly plausible but overused scenes (i.e. the stock death scene; the predictably "deep" dialogue moments; the special-effects-based fight scene; the bits and pieces of nudity or gore just so the movie doesn't come out with only a PG-13 rating; et cetera) and poor writing (i'm sure everyone has encountered this).

I guess there's a reason I almost never watch movies.

It works that way with books, too. I was reading a book set in Medieval England (@1350) and when they served potatoes for dinner, I put the book down and only picked up again to throw it out.
Sirmomo1
24-02-2008, 21:36
Yeah, I'm rather incapable of suspending disbelief. Plot holes; plot inaccuracies; historical inaccuracies; illogical behavior or characters; overreliance on technobabble and jargon; all, when noticed, are subject to ridicule. Of course, I also roll my eyes at perfectly plausible but overused scenes (i.e. the stock death scene; the predictably "deep" dialogue moments; the special-effects-based fight scene; the bits and pieces of nudity or gore just so the movie doesn't come out with only a PG-13 rating; et cetera) and poor writing (i'm sure everyone has encountered this).

I guess there's a reason I almost never watch movies.

Suspension of disbelief is when you live with the fact that a character in some old film is obviously not actually driving the car, it's not about excusing bad filmmaking.
Redwulf
24-02-2008, 21:45
"If you're wondering how he eats and breathes
and other science facts (la-la-la),
Just repeat to yourself, "It's just a show,
I should really just relax...""
New Stalinberg
24-02-2008, 22:22
I notice that every time I watch a TV show or a movie, if it has to deal with aviation or has airplanes in it, I notice that they always screw things up, and I'm talking glaring mistakes. Of course whenever I comment on these mistakes, I get told that it's just a movie, or it's just a TV show. I know when we watch these programs we're suppose to suspend disbelief, but I can't really seem to turn that part of my brain off. Does anyone else act like I do when you catch movies or TV mistakes, or am I just weird?

EVERYONE does this. :p
Neo Art
24-02-2008, 22:52
I'll not infrequently nitpick after a movie/TV show ends, but the only thing that ever really gets me complaining during the actual show is crappy writing. So, for example, when on shows with technical jobs, characters are suddenly visited by the Exposition Fairy and start explaining things to each other that it is entirely implausible that they would not already know ("Hello, fellow brilliant doctor. Let me explain what certain basic medical terms mean to you, despite the fact that you would never have graduated from med school if you didn't know this shit."), I have a tendency to laugh at them. :p

I have a similar problem with legal shows like "law and order" and such. I recognize the necessity of explaining to the audience certain basic concepts, but why int he world is one district attorney explaining a recklesness standard to another district attorney...

(hehe, exposition fairy)
Reeka
24-02-2008, 22:54
Grey's Anatomy (which all of my fraternity minus about two are addicted to) bothers me for all the errors in how a hospital is run. Oh, and when they glaringly violate HIPPA. (You can't just share people's health care information the way they do!) Actually, if I watched an episode of Grey's Anatomy I could list a lot of things they do wrong, from hospital operations to patient care.

Plus, usually the doctors are boinking nurses or other staff (if they're running around like that). Not other doctors. Just my experience, though.

Though, if and when they make mistakes on House... I'm usually willing to overlook it.
Alfegos
24-02-2008, 22:55
Perhaps in British English, but in American English, it's airplane.
As it is also center, theater, color, neighbor and honor.
As what you call a lorry we call a truck, what you call the boot we call the trunk, and what you call the bonnet, we call the hood.

If you don't care for it, by all means, keep speaking the way you do. But we're going to continue to speak correct American English.

We just call it a plane, and leave it at that... solves all problems doesn't it?
And I do get just a little bit annoyed when all my programs as default go for English (American), and misspell Colour, Centre, Theatre, Metre, Neighbour, Honour, Medicine...
In addition, all the books and online applications I read confuse me as to the floors: in England, the Ground floor is not the 1st floor, neither is it in France. So I have to guess whether the writer was an American or not, and live with the consequences.

But now I've started ranting...
Pirated Corsairs
25-02-2008, 01:04
"No, you fool! You call yourself a general?! Let me do it; I could do this so much better!"

"What the fuck? Why the hell did you just fire one volley into the breach in the wall?! Keep shooting until all the arrows are gone, and then charge!"

"What are you doing?! Charging cavalry into a readied line of pikes?! Idiots!"

Basically, in almost every battle scene, I yell at the protagonists because their tactics are absolutely horrible.
[NS]Click Stand
25-02-2008, 01:26
Even with my very small understanding of U.S law, I still groan when a person either pleads insanity or a lawyer basically hops around the courtroom for 10 minutes completely ignoring what would be acceptable in a real courtroom.

Or as mentioned above when a Doctor explains a simple procedure to another doctor such as:

"I'm going to make an incision, which will cut the skin so I can operate on the inside of his body."
Blouman Empire
25-02-2008, 01:36
fixed

Cheers, it has been many years since I last saw the movie
Wilgrove
25-02-2008, 01:37
"If you're wondering how he eats and breathes
and other science facts (la-la-la),
Just repeat to yourself, "It's just a show,
I should really just relax...""

I miss MST3K.
Blouman Empire
25-02-2008, 01:38
Perhaps in British English, but in American English, it's airplane.
As it is also center, theater, color, neighbor and honor.
As what you call a lorry we call a truck, what you call the boot we call the trunk, and what you call the bonnet, we call the hood.

If you don't care for it, by all means, keep speaking the way you do. But we're going to continue to speak correct American English.

Fair enough, but as I said the lazy way centre theatre colour neighbour honour

But we call it a truck rather than a lorry in Oz
Cannot think of a name
25-02-2008, 03:37
I miss MST3K.

Rejoice! (http://cinematictitanic.com/wpmu/index.php)
New Limacon
25-02-2008, 04:18
I miss MST3K.

I know. You'd think that a show that depended on lousy movies for plots could be sustained for years.
Rasselas
25-02-2008, 04:31
I do it occasionally if I'm watching tv and it's glaringly obvious, but usually I'm not paying enough attention. I have a friend who does it at the cinema, and it drives me insane. He's also one of those people who'll recognise the actor, debate about who it is, and then list all their other roles. I don't care who it is, neither does anyone else within hearing distance!
The Cat-Tribe
25-02-2008, 04:38
I do this loudly and with passion in two situations:

1. A lawyer asks leading questions on direct examination

2. I'm sitting near a teacher or a Mod
Sagittarya
25-02-2008, 06:51
I don't really pay so much attention to physical features, but I often get irritated when characters take irrational action or exhibit irrational behaviour.
JuNii
25-02-2008, 06:53
I notice that every time I watch a TV show or a movie, if it has to deal with aviation or has airplanes in it, I notice that they always screw things up, and I'm talking glaring mistakes. Of course whenever I comment on these mistakes, I get told that it's just a movie, or it's just a TV show. I know when we watch these programs we're suppose to suspend disbelief, but I can't really seem to turn that part of my brain off. Does anyone else act like I do when you catch movies or TV mistakes, or am I just weird?

it's called nitpicking. and everyone does it.
Sagittarya
25-02-2008, 06:57
"No, you fool! You call yourself a general?! Let me do it; I could do this so much better!"

"What the fuck? Why the hell did you just fire one volley into the breach in the wall?! Keep shooting until all the arrows are gone, and then charge!"

"What are you doing?! Charging cavalry into a readied line of pikes?! Idiots!"

Basically, in almost every battle scene, I yell at the protagonists because their tactics are absolutely horrible.

I did that during the movie 300.

Hold the line! Flank, flank dammit!

Fine, all of you can die. See if I care.
G3N13
25-02-2008, 06:59
I have no suspension of disbelief so nothing can suspend my disbelief.

It's a movie, it's not supposed to be realistic anyway.
Pirated Corsairs
25-02-2008, 07:36
I did that during the movie 300.

Hold the line! Flank, flank dammit!

Fine, all of you can die. See if I care.
Gah, yeah:
"You made this big deal about how you fight as a hoplite phalanx and cannot use this guy in battle, and you spend all of a minute in it before forsaking it to fight in some loose, formationless mob?!?!"
UpwardThrust
25-02-2008, 07:41
I notice that every time I watch a TV show or a movie, if it has to deal with aviation or has airplanes in it, I notice that they always screw things up, and I'm talking glaring mistakes. Of course whenever I comment on these mistakes, I get told that it's just a movie, or it's just a TV show. I know when we watch these programs we're suppose to suspend disbelief, but I can't really seem to turn that part of my brain off. Does anyone else act like I do when you catch movies or TV mistakes, or am I just weird?

I do that primarily with

1) Computer based movies (my area of expertise)

2) Horror movies, which makes them absolutely unwatchable ... I do not get scared and over analyze. Without surprise or fear they are mostly substance less

... Such is life
Wilgrove
25-02-2008, 08:58
horror movies arent even horror anymore.....they are more like snuff films now...

What would make them "horror" again?
Melphi
25-02-2008, 09:00
2) Horror movies, which makes them absolutely unwatchable ... I do not get scared and over analyze. Without surprise or fear they are mostly substance less

horror movies arent even horror anymore.....they are more like snuff films now...
Anti-Social Darwinism
25-02-2008, 09:04
horror movies arent even horror anymore.....they are more like snuff films now...

Ew. *shudders.* I hate what passes for horror these days. Slasher movies just rankle. I can't take them seriously because I'm always wondering who's going to clean up the mess.
Kostemetsia
25-02-2008, 09:17
I'm a student pianist (AMEB grade eight) so it really annoys me when actors are hitting random keys on a keyboard at the rate of about one a second, and yet are somehow playing Fur Elise at 150 crotchet bpm or thereabouts.

It also annoys me when (in older TV series) starships are obviously being pulled up on strings. You know, wobbling, lots of sourceless smoke, etc.

Allow me to state finally that I would have liked to f*cking kill the makers of Epic Movie.
Wilgrove
25-02-2008, 09:23
Allow me to state finally that I would have liked to f*cking kill the makers of Epic Movie.

Why?
Kostemetsia
25-02-2008, 12:08
Suffice to say that I couldn't watch past just before the middle of the movie. It was that bad.
Damaske
25-02-2008, 14:18
Movies based on real events. Especially the 9/11 movies. I remember my mom and aunt getting all excited about (I think) Flight 93 and trying to get me to come in from the kitchen and watch it. They were just sitting there like they normally do and asking each other questions about the events in the movie. One was like "Well if he was in the bathroom, why didn't he do<insert some heroic deed>?"(mind you this is an example, I can't remember exactly what the scene was) After listening to them bicker, I couldn't take it anymore and finally yelled out "It's a movie based on events that we don't even KNOW happened! None of the talking in there could have even taken place!" They get real into them movies and think that all the scenes and dialog actually DID happen.
Serca
25-02-2008, 14:38
Some movies are good, Transformers actually wasn't as bad as I thought it would be, but then you get movies like Die Hard (the most recent) where you've got the most retarded F-35 pilot in the entire world flying trying to take out a Semi at two feet. I complain about movies all the time, in theaters even, if it’s bad enough (Die Hard comes to mind, like the movie though). The funny thing is, the people I watch with join in on it, watching TV for me is a Social Experience. :p
Fishutopia
25-02-2008, 15:23
What I hate most is a lack of internal logic. I can accept that Star Wars has space battles with noise and gravity. What I can't accept is this kick arse military machine that took over the universe gets its arse kicked by Ewoks.

I can accept Buffy has magic. I can't accept that in 1st season you need to have a special rare artifact, and do a ritual in the middle of the conjunction of the 12 constellations, etc, etc, to make a little bit of fire, and in season 5, Willow snaps her fingers, and can change the world.

Star Trek. You have the computing power to teleport multiple people to a planet, and store 5 or 6 complete sentient minds, but when you need to be suspenseful, you have a delay in a file transfer.

I could go on, but I think I've made my point.
Dukeburyshire
25-02-2008, 17:00
It's worst for Railway Enthusiasts.

1950's engines and 19th Century plots in particular rattle me.
Free United States
25-02-2008, 17:35
I notice it all the time.

One of the biggest movies to do this was Top Gun, the scene where Tom Cruise sticks his finger up while flying is impossible to do (due to the g-force) and the US Air Force pilots don't actually have showers in the change room for one thing there aren't any unlike the movie, the strange thing about this is that the producers brought in a retired Air force pilot to consult them about inaccuracies so they could get it right, when he told them of the above mentioned things and of others of which I have now forgotten the producers told him that it doesn't matter because he told them they were going to do it anyway.

They're Naval aviators, not Air Farce pilots. Also, much of the other things of Top Gun make me loath and love it. For one, most pilots aren't that buff (in dogfighting, the toned physique is actually a hinderance), pilots always wear gloves, how can all four catapults on a carrier fail after launching only three fighters?...etc.
Free United States
25-02-2008, 17:41
Movies based on real events. Especially the 9/11 movies. I remember my mom and aunt getting all excited about (I think) Flight 93 and trying to get me to come in from the kitchen and watch it. They were just sitting there like they normally do and asking each other questions about the events in the movie. One was like "Well if he was in the bathroom, why didn't he do<insert some heroic deed>?"(mind you this is an example, I can't remember exactly what the scene was) After listening to them bicker, I couldn't take it anymore and finally yelled out "It's a movie based on events that we don't even KNOW happened! None of the talking in there could have even taken place!" They get real into them movies and think that all the scenes and dialog actually DID happen.

Although I can say that after reading Blackhawk Down and watching the movie, it was very accurately depicted. Of course, some of the backstory was excluded, but that would have made the movie long and boring.
Wandering Angels
25-02-2008, 17:51
In general, inconsistencies annoy the crap outta me unless they're intentional (i.e. comedy/spoof) but when it's a blatant mistake, that's annoying.

I say 'in general' because to be honest I know NOTHING about planes.
Risottia
25-02-2008, 17:52
Does anyone else act like I do when you catch movies or TV mistakes, or am I just weird?

Try watching a sci-fi movie with a clan of nerds (like me), or watching some fantasy or medieval adventure with a clan of gamers (like me, again)... most of the time you'll hear the debate about gross mistakes.
JuNii
25-02-2008, 17:58
Try watching a sci-fi movie with a clan of nerds (like me), or watching some fantasy or medieval adventure with a clan of gamers (like me, again)... most of the time you'll hear the debate about gross mistakes.

oh yeah!... Thirteeth Warrior... the Viking Burial... my friend was going on about all the mistakes in that scene alone! :p
Anti-Social Darwinism
25-02-2008, 18:14
Oh, and don't forget about stupid casting. Really, John Wayne as Genghis Kahn?!!!? Or as a Roman Centurion. And let us not forget Katharine Hepburn as a Chinese woman in, I think, Dragon Seed. And the absolute plethora of blue-eyed buxom Indian women.

The day Hollywood actually decided to cast Chinese as Chinese and Indians as Indians should be celebrated (there have been some lapses, the actress in Memoirs of a Geisha was not Japanese, but, at least she was Asian).
Eofaerwic
25-02-2008, 18:30
I notice that every time I watch a TV show or a movie, if it has to deal with aviation or has airplanes in it, I notice that they always screw things up, and I'm talking glaring mistakes. Of course whenever I comment on these mistakes, I get told that it's just a movie, or it's just a TV show. I know when we watch these programs we're suppose to suspend disbelief, but I can't really seem to turn that part of my brain off. Does anyone else act like I do when you catch movies or TV mistakes, or am I just weird?

I think it depends where you particular area of expertise is. I know a lot of computer techie/programmer friends who get particularly worked up about the poor realism of computers in films.

My personally pet peeve is psychology in films/TV (being a psychologist and all)... there are some programs I am forbidden to watch on the principle I spend too much of it ranting at the screen :D
Slaytanicca
25-02-2008, 18:57
I can't believe you all lasted 'till page four to mention computers. Just about every time they mention the things they screw up so heinously it makes me cringe. They do it in other areas and probably just as frequently, sure, but with so many people with moderate technical knowledge of the subject you would have thought they'd make more effort.

I think there's a big difference between the suspension of belief we can be expected to exercise and swallowing blatantly false information, especially if that information is essential to the plot (like the notorious non-zero-sum energy conservation in The Matrix's human battery farms, or the episode of The X-Files where some guy travels back in time and kills himself.) If a scriptwriter doesn't want to explain something then by all means I'll happily suspend disbelief, but if they try to make an explaination it had better be a sound one.

Perhaps in British English
Or English English? XD

Meh. English was a hodge-podge to begin with and varies more by county than by country. Anyways aeroplane is a technical term and airplane is a corruption, like bike and bicycle, whether or not it sees more common use. I think there's room for both words personally.
Damaske
25-02-2008, 19:01
Oh, I also have a problem with the medical shows that have a patient flat-lining and the staff using a defibrillator to get the heart to beat again. Makes me cringe. You can't change the rhythm of a heartbeat with a defibrillator(which is what it does) when the heart has NO rhythm to change.
Dukeburyshire
25-02-2008, 19:03
Or when they forget the burn preventioin pads with defib machines.