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One of the things that I always hear from UFO fanatics is that the Government knows more about UFOs than they're letting on. Which I could see if the UFO was a top secret military aircraft. However, I think most of these UFO fanatics are talking about aliens from outer space. I don't know, I don't really see any logical reason the government would want to hide the fact that they may have come in contact with an alien species, or that a spaceship crashed on Earth and they recovered it. It's funny to think that this whle thing started with the Army stated they recovered a crash saucer at Roswell and then had to retract the story. So does the government knows more about alien life form than they're letting on, or are the UFOs we're seeing top secret military aircraft?

Something about our antiquated systems. See "Easy Rider." Nicholson explains it all. :p

Edit: YouTube to the rescue! :p

Here goes: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=73PnAymHAHk

It would be a devastating blow to our antiquated systems.

One of the things that I always hear from UFO fanatics is that the Government knows more about UFOs than they're letting on. Which I could see if the UFO was a top secret military aircraft. However, I think most of these UFO fanatics are talking about aliens from outer space. I don't know, I don't really see any logical reason the government would want to hide the fact that they may have come in contact with an alien species, or that a spaceship crashed on Earth and they recovered it. It's funny to think that this whle thing started with the Army stated they recovered a crash saucer at Roswell and then had to retract the story. So does the government knows more about alien life form than they're letting on, or are the UFOs we're seeing top secret military aircraft?

I have a friend who insists that, because he's seen a couple shows on the History Channel, and read a Time-Life book or two, that he's seen all the evidence necessary to know that UFO's are real, and that several governments (The US, Russia, Brazil, among others) are keeping the evidence under wraps.

It hurts my brain at times... :(

I have a friend who insists that, because he's seen a couple shows on the History Channel, and read a Time-Life book or two, that he's seen all the evidence necessary to know that UFO's are real, and that several governments (The US, Russia, Brazil, among others) are keeping the evidence under wraps.

It hurts my brain at times... :(

Well the USA isn't the only one who claims that they had a UFO crashed there, Mexico, Russia, and I think Brazil can also boast that claim.

X-Files is cool.

But if its widely known in "The Government" Then why hasn't the oposition party exposed it? Surely the next president of the other party would have said something?

Or maybe, just maybe, they could not exist. Perhaps. Think about it, what do the government gain from hiding it? Absolutely nothing.

The reason that the US government has these positions is that when the first sightings were occurring (which happened shortly after the space program started, and people starting thinking about space, go figure) the government couldn't afford a national panic about something like aliens invading, when they were just at the beginning of the cold war. So they decided to do all they could to discredit the people who saw or believed in UFOs and left it at that. As for why they don't recant, all that I can say is that it's likely that there was some top-secret testing going on which produced some of these reports, and the government doesn't want to admit that. Beyond that, if the government doesn't want/have to admit that it lied to its people, it won't.

Well the USA isn't the only one who claims that they had a UFO crashed there, Mexico, Russia, and I think Brazil can also boast that claim.

Any such claims are a crock of shit.

Either "aliens" are hostile, in which case any interstellar civilization ought to be able to take us down with little fuss, given their vastly superior technology...in which case, what the hell are they waiting for?

OR, they are friendly, in which case why not a public landing..."take us to your leader" and whatnot?

The only middle ground is some sort of "Prime Directive" policy...and even that is iffy. Interstellar travel can't be fucking easy, so why make the effort and come all this way just to point and stare until we get our shit together?

The other reason why UFOs are bullshit is that the assumption is always that aliens are always very much like us, when simple observation of life on Earth shows that lifeforms that evolve in dissimilar habitats interact with their environment in fundamentally different ways.

What good would it be for us to wipe out seafloor-vent sulfur-eating bacteria? Odds are any UFO will have a similar disinclination to even bother with us.

so either a vastly advanced species of Alien has traveled trillion of light years to do something (I guess to kill cattle and commit sodomy) and the government has managed to keep it all a secret for thousands of years for some bizarre reason (I guess to kill cattle and commit sodomy)

...or people are seeing what they want to see as is what humans do

you choose what is the most likely please

JANAP-15
Jimmy Carter
The White House
The Lubbock Lights
Rendlesham


etc

How much do they know as compared to how much they accept as feasible?
How much is said as feasible as compared to likely?
How much is likely as compared to accurate?
How much is accurate as compared to classified?

Interstellar travel can't be fucking easy, so why make the effort and come all this way just to point and stare until we get our shit together?


Probably to point and laugh at us.

My theory is that Earth is the entertainment center of the galaxy. UFOs are here to pirate all of our great TV shows and awesome movies. They then hyperwave them back to GBC who retransmits them and then rakes in the Quatloos.

military ego and military jelosi. no one wants to admit the've more or less accidently on purpose killed stranded disabled aliens who most likely had no hostile intentions, in order to rip off whatever tecnology they might from their disabled craft. largely by prying them open and exposing their interior to our atmosphere, in that bransurgery with a cold chissle and sledgehammer way all militaries are so famously known for, neither considering nor caring the unlikelyness of the injured occupants being able to breath our air any more then we could theirs.

oh tis a might tangled web it is it is. oh and don't worry. the u.s. isn't the only guilty party. just one of many, or at least several.

and there's more to it even then that, though i can't personally vouch for the details, of if i could, well that WOULD be telling now wouldn't it?

no, such knowledge was diliberately blocked from me before i was born to come here.

as if i thought i could do anything about it.
well that was before i saw these little tiney brains humans had to live in.

=^^=
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I bet the Government knows that there aren't any real UFOs and they are keeping this from us.

I know this is a joke post, but why?

One of the things that I always hear from UFO fanatics is that the Government knows more about UFOs than they're letting on. Which I could see if the UFO was a top secret military aircraft. However, I think most of these UFO fanatics are talking about aliens from outer space. I don't know, I don't really see any logical reason the government would want to hide the fact that they may have come in contact with an alien species, or that a spaceship crashed on Earth and they recovered it. It's funny to think that this whle thing started with the Army stated they recovered a crash saucer at Roswell and then had to retract the story. So does the government knows more about alien life form than they're letting on, or are the UFOs we're seeing top secret military aircraft?

Think about it... the government (any government, they're almost entirely interchangeable in that aspect) can't keep politician's affairs secret, they can't keep their own finances secret, hell, they can't even keep their own past a secret.
And you think those people can keep something like an UFO landing a secret? No way.

I bet the Government knows that there aren't any real UFOs and they are keeping this from us.

Think about it... the government (any government, they're almost entirely interchangeable in that aspect) can't keep politician's affairs secret, they can't keep their own finances secret, hell, they can't even keep their own past a secret.
And you think those people can keep something like an UFO landing a secret? No way.

Unless, they purposely leak everything else to make us think that they can keep a secret! *puts on tin foil hat* Oh very well played Government, very well played, but I'M ON TO YOU!

Seriously though, I've noticed that as we've gotten access to more ways of getting information (Internet being one of them) we're unable to uncover more secrets from the Government. I mean back in the 40's the Government was able to keep a lot of things secret, like the fact that FDR had polio. However, today now that we have ways of accessing information from anywhere in the world, it seems like we're able to find out more about our government.

Just a thought.

I bet, if the goverment had told us years ago that there were aliens(if they realy do exist)the U.S.A could have taken it a lot better. But if we found out now then there would be some kind of uprise. If I was Bush, I wouldnt tell us either.

I've noticed that there are upfront statements about being rock-like planets that are similar to earth and Mars that are closer to other sun-like stars that could very well hold life. It's possible that there is something there. The "government" can't control other governments that want to release that information... it's possible that because we held back technology for reasons that we may not be aware of it...

Government(s) knows no nothing. UFOs are not alien spacecraft.
1) There's no way to keep up such a ruse on a global scale, besides the scientific community would find proof sooner or later about them UFOs or about fabricated government explanations to phenomena being that, fabricated.
2) Interstellar travel is feasible but it takes far way too long (remember the whole nothing-can-go-faster-than-light) it can take many thousands of years to reach just a handful of stars from their home planet.
3) Even if they could, they have to find us in a very large universe.
4) Aliens, who very possibly exist, are not humanoid thingies, they are far too alien.
5) Some UFOs may be military crafts, most must be natural phenomena we cant explain as of yet.

If the US government was that good about hiding things they'd have bigger skeletons to lock in the closet that the existence of extraterrestrial life.

My theory? UFOs are top-secret prototype aircraft. The US government deliberately let slip the alien thing so they could test their planes outside Area 51 and everybody thinks they're just aliens.

Why would they want to test planes outside Area 51? I can think of three reasons:
1. Doesn't crowd airspace.
2. They can do long-distance flight tests.
3. They can run them into conditions that don't exist in Area 51 (such as bad weather - Area 51 is in the Nevada desert).

A friend of mine theorized that it was the Roswell Chamber of Commerce which claimed that an alien spacecraft had been recovered at the military base.

The "government" can't control other governments that want to release that information...
Yeah, theories of extraterrestrials are often (if not always) wrapped up in other conspiracy theories.

The government KNOWS something!?!?!?:eek: Alert the media!

The government KNOWS something!?!?!?:eek: Alert the media!

Dont!
Last time they knew something, it led to a really costly and utterly pointless war....

So are the Greys justified in their claim that anal probing is a legitimate interrogation technique and so they are not guilty of torturing the millions of Americans who claim to have been extraordinarily extradited by flying saucers.

One of the things that I always hear from UFO fanatics is that the Government knows more about UFOs than they're letting on. Which I could see if the UFO was a top secret military aircraft. However, I think most of these UFO fanatics are talking about aliens from outer space. I don't know, I don't really see any logical reason the government would want to hide the fact that they may have come in contact with an alien species, or that a spaceship crashed on Earth and they recovered it. It's funny to think that this whle thing started with the Army stated they recovered a crash saucer at Roswell and then had to retract the story. So does the government knows more about alien life form than they're letting on, or are the UFOs we're seeing top secret military aircraft?

No.

I know this is a joke post, but why?

Why not? I chuckled (a little).