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## NYT on McCain relationships with a younger lobbyist

OceanDrive2
21-02-2008, 07:58
February 21, 2008 -- WASHINGTON — Early in Senator John McCain’s first run for the White House eight years ago, waves of anxiety swept through his small circle of advisers.

A female lobbyist had been turning up with him at fund-raisers, visiting his offices and accompanying him on a client’s corporate jet. Convinced the relationship had become romantic, some of his top advisers intervened to protect the candidate from himself — instructing staff members to block the woman’s access, privately warning her away and repeatedly confronting him, several people involved in the campaign said on the condition of anonymity.

http://www.nytimes.com/2008/02/21/us/politics/21mccain.html?em&ex=1203742800&en=dd85a1bc28fc6d8b&ei=5087%0A

wha... ???

can you even get a hard-on at 71 ?? :D (yes I know he was 63)
actually I dont care if he is fucking with a girls as young as his daughter or grand-daughter..
but a senator fucking a Lobbyist, that should be enough for him to resign.
OceanDrive2
21-02-2008, 08:05
Within hours of the New York Times story going public, Vicki Iseman's bio was pulled from the web site of her firm, Alcade and Faye.

screenshot available here:

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2008/02/20/vicki-isemans-bio-pulled_n_87698.html
Christmahanukwanzikah
21-02-2008, 08:08
I like your strawman.

Especially considering that this was eight years ago.
OceanDrive2
21-02-2008, 08:10
FAR more interested in their lobbyist relationship than if they were schtuping. I don't care about the latter in the least.schtuping at 71 ????

WoW
Cannot think of a name
21-02-2008, 08:13
FAR more interested in their lobbyist relationship than if they were schtuping. I don't care about the latter in the least.

EDIT: oooohhh, telecommunications...very interested in that lobbyist relationship...if at all possible even less interested if they touched each other funny.
Christmahanukwanzikah
21-02-2008, 08:25
I guess I care a little, if he''s getting trim at 71, then go man. I'll be lucky not to be peeing into a bag at that age.



Wow, even my opinion of myself kind of dropped there...

It's called {insert name of popular... flow enhancer here} and better medicine.
Cannot think of a name
21-02-2008, 08:29
schtuping at 71 ????

can you even get a hard-on at 71 ?? :D (yes I know he was 63, but can you it still too old to have sex)
I guess I care a little, if he''s getting trim at 71, then go man. I'll be lucky not to be peeing into a bag at that age.



Wow, even my opinion of myself kind of dropped there...
Cannot think of a name
21-02-2008, 08:32
I like your strawman.

Especially considering that this was eight years ago.

You know, one of these days I have to make a cartoon of a strawman yelling, "Dammit! You know, not every argument you see is a fucking strawman! Just because I'm one of the two or three fallacies you can remember without looking it up doesn't mean you can invoke me willy nilly!"
Cannot think of a name
21-02-2008, 08:35
It's called {insert name of popular... flow enhancer here} and better medicine.

Just 'cause you can get it up doesn't mean you can find someone to get up on it...




One more of those and I have to turn this shirt into a wife beater...
Gartref
21-02-2008, 08:37
You know, one of these days I have to make a cartoon of a strawman yelling, "Dammit! You know, not every argument you see is a fucking strawman! Just because I'm one of the two or three fallacies you can remember without looking it up doesn't mean you can invoke me willy nilly!"

I hate it when strawmen accuse their accusers of just crying strawman. It's just like a strawman to deflect the argument by creating yet another strawman.
OceanDrive2
21-02-2008, 08:51
I hate it when strawmen accuse their accusers of just crying strawman. It's just like a strawman to deflect the argument by creating yet another strawman.he started it !

*childishly point to ChristmasHanukkah* :D
Christmahanukwanzikah
21-02-2008, 08:54
I hate it when strawmen accuse their accusers of just crying strawman. It's just like a strawman to deflect the argument by creating yet another strawman.

I think we need a flamethower. You've created too many straw men. :p
OceanDrive2
21-02-2008, 08:56
Just imagine the story if it had been an older lobbyist. Ewww.the horror !!!!

*must... erase... mental image* :headbang:
Gartref
21-02-2008, 09:00
## NYT on McCain relationship with a younger lobbyist

Just imagine the story if it had been an older lobbyist. Ewww.
OceanDrive2
21-02-2008, 16:32
Just 'cause you can get it up doesn't mean you can find someone to get up on it...true true :D
Call to power
21-02-2008, 16:40
...Hillary is blond just so everyone knows what I'm thinking;)

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2008/02/20/vicki-isemans-bio-pulled_n_87698.html

dear god and shes a victim of fashion!
Ashmoria
21-02-2008, 18:17
of course a man can get it up at 71 (or 63 since this was 8 years ago).
OceanDrive2
21-02-2008, 18:49
of course a man can get it up at 71 how do you know? :cool:

actually... dont answer that :D
Knights of Liberty
21-02-2008, 20:59
First of all, his current arm candy (ok...his much much younger wife) is far to good looking to warrent him having an affair.


Secondly, I dislike it when people attack McCains character. It may be politically advantagous to me, but damn it, that man has gone through a lot for this country, he deserves better than that.
Myrmidonisia
21-02-2008, 21:05
wha... ???

can you even get a hard-on at 71 ?? :D (yes I know he was 63)
actually I dont care if he is fucking with a girls as young as his daughter or grand-daughter..
but a senator fucking a Lobbyist, that should be enough for him to resign.
Hey, it's only sex. At least he hasn't lied about it under oath.

The next four years is going to be so much fun...Four because either Obama or Clinton will screw up so badly that the Democrats won't see the inside of the White House for another 20 years.
Free Soviets
21-02-2008, 21:06
Secondly, I dislike it when people attack McCains character.

but it is so richly deserved. he's not exactly a man of integrity or anything.
Andaluciae
21-02-2008, 21:13
First of all, his current arm candy (ok...his much much younger wife) is far to good looking to warrent him having an affair.


I'm with you on that, a twenty year age difference does make for some substantial age wonderings, if I do say so myself. I mean, there's practically my entire life's worth of difference between them.
Knights of Liberty
21-02-2008, 21:15
but it is so richly deserved. he's not exactly a man of integrity or anything.

Hes a fool, but Id never say he lacked integrity.
Knights of Liberty
21-02-2008, 21:16
Hey, it's only sex. At least he hasn't lied about it under oath.


Hey its only sex. At least his lies didnt lead to a war that have caused thousands of deaths.

The next four years is going to be so much fun...Four because either Obama or Clinton will screw up so badly that the Democrats won't see the inside of the White House for another 20 years.

No one can screw up as bad as Bush. If the Republicans can get elected after Dubya, than the Democrats can get elected after anybody.


You....um...whats the word Im looking for....fail?
Free Soviets
21-02-2008, 21:18
Hes a fool, but Id never say he lacked integrity.

nah, he's a bootlicker. just look at his record over the past few years. and that is after his sudden conversion to "maverick man of principle" following his long run of standard conservative hack accepting bribes from lobbyists.
Knights of Liberty
21-02-2008, 21:24
I'm with you on that, a twenty year age difference does make for some substantial age wonderings, if I do say so myself. I mean, there's practically my entire life's worth of difference between them.

Its actually more than 20 years.


According to him, when they first met, he said he was younger than he was, and she said she was older, and there was still more than 20 years age difference.

Shes gotta be at least only in her 40s. Shes a babe.
Mumakata dos
21-02-2008, 21:26
Hey its only sex. At least his lies didnt lead to a war that have caused thousands of deaths.


What does Frank Roosevelt have to do with a unsouced Hit job fly by attack article with absolutley no basis in truth?

McCain is a liberal, and it is really fun to see the leftist eat thier own.
Mumakata dos
21-02-2008, 21:35
FDR? Where did that come from?

FDR lied, Germans and Japanese died.


I also dont think you know what it means to be a liberal...


It means to think illogically and not to bother to address issues, just to throw money at them.
Mumakata dos
21-02-2008, 21:36
And I am the master of time. Kneel before ZOD!
Knights of Liberty
21-02-2008, 21:36
What does Frank Roosevelt have to do with a unsouced Hit job fly by attack article with absolutley no basis in truth?


FDR? Where did that come from?

McCain is a liberal, and it is really fun to see the leftist eat thier own.


I also dont think you know what it means to be a liberal...



Youre funny. Please, continue.
Knights of Liberty
21-02-2008, 21:43
FDR lied, Germans and Japanese died.


Prey tell what did FDR lie about in relation to WWII? You have me confused.


It means to think illogically and not to bother to address issues, just to throw money at them.


I knew your definition was incorrect.
Gui de Lusignan
22-02-2008, 01:20
i wonder why the NYTs endorsed McCain just last month if, as they say, they've had this story in the works for months now.
Bann-ed
22-02-2008, 01:31
i wonder why the NYTs endorsed McCain just last month if, as they say, they've had this story in the works for months now.

Obviously they approve.
Gartref
22-02-2008, 01:36
FDR lied, Germans and Japanese died.


You're not crazy in the good way.
Johnny B Goode
22-02-2008, 02:07
You know, one of these days I have to make a cartoon of a strawman yelling, "Dammit! You know, not every argument you see is a fucking strawman! Just because I'm one of the two or three fallacies you can remember without looking it up doesn't mean you can invoke me willy nilly!"

Easily done.

http://i239.photobucket.com/albums/ff287/johnnybmetal/straw_man_captioned2.jpg

Not the greatest, but I think it suffices.
Knights of Liberty
22-02-2008, 02:32
The more I read about this story, the more Im starting to think McCain is full of crap and disbelieve him.


Oh...this is glorious. He lost to GWB because of similar charges of aving an affair.
Desperate Measures
22-02-2008, 03:11
i wonder why the NYTs endorsed McCain just last month if, as they say, they've had this story in the works for months now.

I think another magazine was about to write an article saying that the NYTs had information on McCain but were not coming forward with it. I think it was the New Republic.
OceanDrive2
22-02-2008, 03:14
Hey its only sex. At least his lies didnt lead to a war that have caused thousands of deaths.What does Frank Roosevelt have to do with..I dont now.. Maybe Frank did not allow Hans Blix to finish his job and invaded Iraq.. maybe Frank had the Nigerian cake cooked for him. :D (it was not Frank it was Georgy)