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... according to billionaire Al Fayad (http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk/7250002.stm).

So has this old man just lost it, or is what he says credible?

Superb. I'm feeling quite shit and tired tonight. This mans lunacy has cheered me up no end.

Superb. I'm feeling quite shit and tired tonight. This mans lunacy has cheered me up no end.

Al Fayeds' or "That fuse box looks like it was wired by an Indian" Phils'?

No, but I will agree that Phillip does have some unintentionally hilarious (to my mind, your tolerance my vary) bigotry going on.

Al Fayad is just a bit gutted that his son is dead, more than anything else.

Superb. I'm feeling quite shit and tired tonight. This mans lunacy has cheered me up no end.

Indeed, Fayed should definitely vent his theories to the press more often.

No, but I will agree that Phillip does have some unintentionally hilarious (to my mind, your tolerance my vary) bigotry going on.


True, but this is more old, upper class and British style bigotry. Not Nazi style bigotry, that's a little too far.

True, but this is more old, upper class and British style bigotry. Not Nazi style bigotry, that's a little too far.
Absolutely.

This is more casual comments about The Colonials than anything else.

In his spiel he essentially said all Germans are racist... what an obnoxious thing to say.

True, but this is more old, upper class and British style bigotry. Not Nazi style bigotry, that's a little too far.Well, you know those blasted Irish, dirty Welsh, and drunken Scots.

Well, you know those drunken Irish, slutty Welsh, and tight fisted Scots.

Fixed. :)

Al Fayed just strikes me as a bit of a loon. I mean, he was the one pushing for yet another enquiry into all this, and yet the massively wealthy guy thinks it's much more sporting to let the British taxpayer foot the bill. Let the poor couple rest in peace, that's all I have to say.

i always thought old phil was greek.

I hate the royal family, it's embarrasing the Queen is our head of state.

i always thought old phil was greek.

Well, being a royal he is a mix of lots of different European countries, but he was born and raised on a Greek island IIRC.

Al Fayad is just a bit gutted that his son is dead, more than anything else.

Aye, it sounds like he's trying to ascribe some greater significance to the death of his son than there is in reality. I can certainly see why, it all seems so pointless, to die in a car crash in an unsafe tunnel, at unsafe speeds, hounded by cameramen.

Aye, it sounds like he's trying to ascribe some greater significance to the death of his son than there is in reality.
Indeed; I feel a bit sorry for the irrational old fool.

You can see how desperate he is to find some author behind the events when you listen to his reaction to reporters outside of court today; when the BBC's royal correspondant put it to Al Fayed that there was no evidence for his allegations, the ld man turned from being quite nice to the reporter to screaming about how the reporter was "part of the establishment", almost accusing him of having a hand in the death of Dodi Al Fayed.

Silly sod.

when the BBC's royal correspondant put it to Al Fayed that there was no evidence for his allegations, the ld man turned from being quite nice to the reporter to screaming about how the reporter was "part of the establishment", almost accusing him of having a hand in the death of Dodi Al Fayed.


Is there any footage of this online?

Al Fayad is just a bit gutted that his son is dead, more than anything else.
Yes, he's a "bit gutted" (my boss was made redundant t'other week and she said that that made her feel a "bit gutted"...:p) but he's (poorly) hiding his own personal hatred of and apparent vendetta against "the Establishment" behind the flimsy mask of the Diana inquiry, all the while making a fool of himself by vainly trying to get public support for himself. He's a fucking embarrassment. If I were his son, I'd rather be dead. And I'm glad we never gave the guy a British passport.

...hiding his own personal hatred of and apparent vendetta against "the Establishment"...
Which, somehow, the billionaire owner of Harrods, Fulham FC, the Hôtel Ritz Paris and various other lucrative ventures isn't a part of. :p

Well, being a royal he is a mix of lots of different European countries, but he was born and raised on a Greek island IIRC.
House of Schleswig-Holstein-Sonderburg-Glücksburg (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/House_of_Schleswig-Holstein-Sonderburg-Gl%C3%BCcksburg)

maybe Hydesland thinks all Germans are racist, but I dont agree with him.

That would be strange since I'm half German myself.

If it weren't for his money Al Fayed would have been sectioned under the Mental health act in 1997. Come on, "Conspiracies" people "out to get him", it reeks of a persecution complex!

I think Al Fayed is against Prince Phillip so much (who's Greek Royalty, but only an English Duke) as Prince Phillip is a fully accepted member of High society whilst Al Fayed is shunned. The fact he's a shopkeeper and some what "nouveau riche" having nothing to do with it!

Andaras, would you rather have an inept politician or a devoted dutiful woman who was trained from birth for her job.

The Queen is all that keeps Britain from absolute corruption.

Which, somehow, the billionaire owner of Harrods, Fulham FC, the Hôtel Ritz Paris and various other lucrative ventures isn't a part of. :p
Exactly. As you said before: silly sod.

In his spiel he essentially said all Germans are racist... I dont agree, I am against generalizing all Germans as racists. or any other Nationality.

I heard it on Radio 4 earlier tonight, on the PM program.

You can listen to it here (http://www.bbc.co.uk/radio4/news/pm/), though I'm afraid I don't know whereabouts in the program it'll be. There was a lot of stuff about Northern Rock and Pakistan tonight.

AFAIK, there wasn't any video footage of the event.

OK, thanks for the link.

It was on the BBC news, try their website for "podcast" thingys

Is there any footage of this online?
I heard it on Radio 4 earlier tonight, on the PM program.

You can listen to it here (http://www.bbc.co.uk/radio4/news/pm/), though I'm afraid I don't know whereabouts in the program it'll be. There was a lot of stuff about Northern Rock and Pakistan tonight.

AFAIK, there wasn't any video footage of the event.

Prince Philip has only ever told politically incorrect jokes in public that most people that were famous would say in private. I don't understand how it makes him a Nazi, which would be weird since he fought in WWII against them.

I can never fathom why people were so interested in Princess Diana. Before or after her death. She was a cheating promiscuous whore who did nothing but embarrass herself and the Royal Family. She was just the older and equally ugly English version of Paris Hilton. I feel sorry for her sons to have had such a mother.

I hate the royal family, it's embarrasing the Queen is our head of state.
Err the Queen is pretty awesome. Prince Phillip is ridiculous, but there we go.

I loved the "Have I Got News for You" episode where Paul Merton suggested that Prince Phillip had burnt down the Cutty Sark whilst riding a camel. Because of this I voted YES!

I can never fathom why people were so interested in Princess Diana. Before or after her death. She was a cheating promiscuous whore who did nothing but embarrass herself and the Royal Family. She was just the older and equally ugly English version of Paris Hilton. I feel sorry for her sons to have had such a mother.
That's an outstandingly stupid opinion, even from you.

Not only did she not particularly enjoy the media limelight, the time that she was in it was mostly when she was doing stuff like helping demining efforts in Africa and Cambodia, and generally being perfectly pleasant.

As to your cheating, promiscuous whore comment, she did nothing that Charles didn't and at least she didn't treat Charles like utter shit. The same cannot be said the other way 'round.

I don't even like her that much - the reason that people do is mostly because she was a particularly alright person, instead of that bint Camilla that Charles is currently with, after seeing her all the way through his marriage to Diana, you just kind of got me in a rage there.

Not only did she not particularly enjoy the media limelight, the time that she was in it was mostly when she was doing stuff like helping demining efforts in Africa and Cambodia, and generally being perfectly pleasant.
Although I'm not saying she did anything necessarily bad, she didn't 'help' with demining efforts, she stood around in fields long-since cleared of mines, or held children with non-infectious diseases.

Pleasent, sure; but not exactly amazing moral acts.

That's an outstandingly stupid opinion, even from you.

Not only did she not particularly enjoy the media limelight, the time that she was in it was mostly when she was doing stuff like helping demining efforts in Africa and Cambodia, and generally being perfectly pleasant.

As to your cheating, promiscuous whore comment, she did nothing that Charles didn't and at least she didn't treat Charles like utter shit. The same cannot be said the other way 'round.

I don't even like her that much - the reason that people do is mostly because she was a particularly alright person, instead of that bint Camilla that Charles is currently with, after seeing her all the way through his marriage to Diana, you just kind of got me in a rage there.

Where to start? Yeah, she didn't enjoy the media spotlight when it intruded on her sad personal life, but when she could use it to her advantage, it was all good. Her "causes" were publicity shots and I don't believe in the sincerity anymore than Jolie and her ilk. Oh yeah, I hate the media, but watch me do all this phony humanitarian work on camera.

And I didn't say Charles didn't cheat on her, but she knew damn well what she was getting into and sold herself to get a title. She knew that Charles just wanted her to give him heirs and him cheating on her doesn't change the fact that she was a promiscuous slut. And much of the myths surrounding how the Queen and Charles treated are done by the people making money off of her name.

I repeat, she was in many ways like Paris Hilton. A dumb vapid slut with a lot of money who got lots of press for bullshit reasons.

Indeed; I feel a bit sorry for the irrational old fool.

You can see how desperate he is to find some author behind the events when you listen to his reaction to reporters outside of court today; when the BBC's royal correspondant put it to Al Fayed that there was no evidence for his allegations, the ld man turned from being quite nice to the reporter to screaming about how the reporter was "part of the establishment", almost accusing him of having a hand in the death of Dodi Al Fayed.

Silly sod.

I, too, feel quite sorry for him. He's gone through something awful, he lost his son. And now, his suffering has been played out on an international media stage. How tragic.

With Al Fayed its all about self-denial

Who employed the driver that night?
Who told the police they could have only 1 bodyguard for Diana?
who's car was it they died in?


Lets face it, she died because a drunk driver, playing a racing game with the scum... sorry papparazi, lost control of the car in a known french traffic hazard, while 2 of his passengers were not wearing seat belts.

maybe Hydesland thinks all Germans are racist, but I dont agree with him.

Oh no, I was referring to Fayed, who said something along the lines of "he is a racist and be put back in Germany where he belongs"

When I read the title of this thread I thought "Tell me something I don't know, this is old news" he has after all said some questionable things which could be viewed as racist.

However, in saying that Mohamed Al Fayed should really just wake up to the fact that his son is dead and not to continue looking for demons and some great conspiracy. I find it absurd how he was the only one who was told that they were going to get pregnant and were going to get married, whereas none of Diana's friends or family knew about it, indeed some have fronted the inquiry and have said that she was using Dodi as 'jealous' date, and was also seeing someone else at the time.

For some reason Mohamed Al Fayed does not want to accept that his son died because of an accident but wants to continue trying to convince everyone that he was murdered he probably thinks that if he keeps saying it to everyone then eventually they will believe. Mohamed Al Fayed get over they died stop blaming everyone and accusing them on being in on the plot, from the Duke of Edinburgh to the ambassador to France to the french police, that is a hell of a lot of people to keep a secret for over 10 years. As evudenced by the quote on the truth of Dianas pregancy "everyone who has being saying this is in on the plot"

It should be remembered by everyone that if Princess Diana and Dodi had being wearing a seat belt at the time of the accident then they both would have survived the accident, but I am sure conspiracy theorists will give some reason why they didnt perhaps the Royal family hired a hypnotist to convince them not to wear seat belts for the trip

Didn't he claim Tony Bliar was in on it today too?

Al Fayad is right - but for the wrong reasons. The Royals killed Diana, but it was not because they are racists. It was because they are Reptiles. Diana discovered the Reptillian Conspiracy and was about to expose them.

Al Fayad is right - but for the wrong reasons. The Royals killed Diana, but it was not because they are racists. It was because they are Reptiles. Diana discovered the Reptillian Conspiracy and was about to expose them.

*smacks self in forehead*

its so obvious now.

Al Fayad is right - but for the wrong reasons. The Royals killed Diana, but it was not because they are racists. It was because they are Reptiles. Diana discovered the Reptillian Conspiracy and was about to expose them.

I'm sorry, old friend, but you know too much. You must be..... neutralized.

*sends the Black Helicopters to take Gartref away*

And remember everyone, there is no Cabal.

What I don't understand is why people like him do not get sued or face criminal charges for accusing people of murder? Why doesn't Prince Philip, Tony Blair and the other people he's accused sue him? My guess is that they want to believe that people don't care about the rantings of a deranged old man and don't want to have his nonsense get even more coverage, but I don't think it's something that you should be able to get away with. If someone was publicly accusing me of being behind a murder, I wouldn't just ignore it. I don't agree with these people saying that they feel sorry him. He's accusing other people of murder without any evidence beyond his own lies.

It's like the so-called 9/11 truthers here, I don't understand why the government doesn't go after them. They are accusing Bush and other people by name of engaging in terrorism and mass murder, yet they face no retribution for these kinds of attacks, it's not right. You either back up what you say in court or you should be punished.

Nothing makes me laugh harder than the thought of these idiotic weak ass conspiracy theorists being beaten and raped in our prisons. I wish the government would grow a sack and go after them.

Al Fayad is right - but for the wrong reasons. The Royals killed Diana, but it was not because they are racists. It was because they are Reptiles. Diana discovered the Reptillian Conspiracy and was about to expose them.

Damn Silurians.

Didn't Prince Phillip tell a bunch of British kids in China to leave before they "got all slitty eyed"?

Prince Phillip is one of my favorite people.

I can think of no one else alive today who would be more a joy to go drinking or shooting with.

Interestingly, Mohammed Fayed added the al- to his own name. Don't ask me why. Anyway, Private Eye's going to have a field day with this one. Fuggin'.

What I don't understand is why people like him do not get sued or face criminal charges for accusing people of murder? Why doesn't Prince Philip, Tony Blair and the other people he's accused sue him? My guess is that they want to believe that people don't care about the rantings of a deranged old man and don't want to have his nonsense get even more coverage, but I don't think it's something that you should be able to get away with. If someone was publicly accusing me of being behind a murder, I wouldn't just ignore it. I don't agree with these people saying that they feel sorry him. He's accusing other people of murder without any evidence beyond his own lies.

It's like the so-called 9/11 truthers here, I don't understand why the government doesn't go after them. They are accusing Bush and other people by name of engaging in terrorism and mass murder, yet they face no retribution for these kinds of attacks, it's not right. You either back up what you say in court or you should be punished.

Nothing makes me laugh harder than the thought of these idiotic weak ass conspiracy theorists being beaten and raped in our prisons. I wish the government would grow a sack and go after them.

When you get older you wont be upset by things like this.

Courage!

Originally Posted by The Scandinvans
Well, you know those drunken Irish, slutty Welsh, and tight fisted Scots.

Fixed. :)

Oi. I saw that.







Unless you've been to Merthyr on a Saturday evening:D

... according to billionaire Al Fayad (http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk/7250002.stm).

So has this old man just lost it, or is what he says credible?cc

About Phil being a racist hes bang on, he's more Greek-German than German though.

About the plot shite, no. Its no odds to them who they marry as long as its not a catholic, legally speaking.

I really think they should let this rest. It was terribly sad, but it has been blown out of all proportion.

So much taxpayer money has been spent... And they were driving at 100mph without seatbelts... its hardly surprising.

And the monarchy make loads for the country in tourism. And being a delegate to other countries when the PM is busy. They also are a piece of history most countries don't have, and that we should treasure.

They also are a piece of history most countries don't have, and that we should treasure.

So stuffing them when they die then......

Aye, it sounds like he's trying to ascribe some greater significance to the death of his son than there is in reality. I can certainly see why, it all seems so pointless, to die in a car crash in an unsafe tunnel, at unsafe speeds, hounded by cameramen...

and when his son and son's girlfriend likely would have survived if only they'd worn a seatbelt. No doubt the conspiracy extended to Diana and Dodi being brainwashed into never wearing seatbelts through special coded signals sent out through the BBC World Service.

Actually, I see that the Blouman Empire came up with a not entirely dissimilar theory a few posts earlier, so it MUST BE TRUE.

In fact, everyone posting on this thread denying the conspiracy is probably an MI6 plant attempting to throw the people off the scent of the truth by pretending it's only a ludicrous conspiracy.

Including me.

What I don't understand is why people like him do not get sued or face criminal charges for accusing people of murder? Why doesn't Prince Philip, Tony Blair and the other people he's accused sue him? My guess is that they want to believe that people don't care about the rantings of a deranged old man and don't want to have his nonsense get even more coverage, but I don't think it's something that you should be able to get away with. If someone was publicly accusing me of being behind a murder, I wouldn't just ignore it. I don't agree with these people saying that they feel sorry him. He's accusing other people of murder without any evidence beyond his own lies.

It's like the so-called 9/11 truthers here, I don't understand why the government doesn't go after them. They are accusing Bush and other people by name of engaging in terrorism and mass murder, yet they face no retribution for these kinds of attacks, it's not right. You either back up what you say in court or you should be punished.

Nothing makes me laugh harder than the thought of these idiotic weak ass conspiracy theorists being beaten and raped in our prisons. I wish the government would grow a sack and go after them.

First Amendment. You can say whatever you want, no matter how stupid it is.

Also the reason why many of your debating partners have not beaten you up yet.

You think that going around and accusing people of murder is covered by the First Amendment? You aren't really that stupid are you?

And this isn't the U.S. anyway, I'm pretty sure that it's illegal to slander someone in the UK too.

You think that going around and accusing people of murder is covered by the First Amendment? You aren't really that stupid are you?

And this isn't the U.S. anyway, I'm pretty sure that it's illegal to slander someone in the UK too.

Freedom of speech. They haven't tried confronting the government or doing anything stupid, so, yeah.

Prince Phillip is one of my favorite people.

I can think of no one else alive today who would be more a joy to go drinking or shooting with.
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/0/01/Dick_Cheney.jpg/200px-Dick_Cheney.jpg

Oh really?

Al Fayeds' or "That fuse box looks like it was wired by an Indian" Phils'?

I like HRH Prince Phillip. He might be something of a bigot, but he does at least maintain something of the sense of royalty Diana and the morons she entranced seem determined to do away with.

About the plot shite, no. Its no odds to them who they marry as long as its not a catholic, legally speaking.

I don't think that it would have mattered if Lady Diana had married a Catholic after all it is not like she was in line to the throne.

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/0/01/Dick_Cheney.jpg/200px-Dick_Cheney.jpg

Oh really?

Dick Cheney's my second choice.