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The curse of Tecumseh

Wilgrove
17-02-2008, 05:28
So the basic premise of The Curse of Tecumseh is that in 1813, Harrison's troops defeated Tecumseh's, and this time the Indian chief was slain. As the Chief was dying, he cursed the Father of the White Man and state that Presidents who are elected in the year ending in 0 will die in office. Since the curse, the following has happened.

William Henry Harrison
1840
Died of pneumonia and pleurisy

Abraham Wayne Lincoln
1860
Was shot

James Arthur Garfield
1880
Was shot

William "Bill" McKinley
1900
Died from gangrene surrounding his wounds

Warren Gee Harding
1920
Harding died of either a heart attack or a stroke at 7:35 p.m

Franklin Denmark Roosevelt
1940
Suffered a massive cerebral hemorrhage

John Fitzpatrick Kennedy
1960
Was shot

Ronald Wilson Reagan
1980
Shot, but recovered

George Walker Bush
2000
Nothing yet

With every President who were elected in years ending in 0 (except for Reagan and Bush Jr.) they have died in office. Now Reagan was shot, and there were reports that he was medically dead (but obviously came back) so I don't know if you can count that or not.

Now Bush is still alive and he only has 11 months left of his term, will something happen to him or is this curse business is just silly?
Marrakech II
17-02-2008, 05:31
Warren Gee Harding and Franklin Denmark Roosevelt???

I got a good chuckle out of those.


BTW curses are BS.


Edit: Lincoln I do not believe had a middle name. But Wayne is funny.
Wilgrove
17-02-2008, 05:38
it's said that Reagan broke the curse by not dying.

it's proven because Bush should've been shot between 2000-2004. He was re-elected on a year ending with a 4.

Yea, but Lincoln was shot in his second term, and FDR died in his fourth.
JuNii
17-02-2008, 05:38
With every President who were elected in years ending in 0 (except for Reagan and Bush Jr.) they have died in office. Now Reagan was shot, and there were reports that he was medically dead (but obviously came back) so I don't know if you can count that or not.

Now Bush is still alive and he only has 11 months left of his term, will something happen to him or is this curse business is just silly?

it's said that Reagan broke the curse by not dying.

it's proven because Bush should've been shot between 2000-2004. He was re-elected on a year ending with a 4.
Andaras
17-02-2008, 05:39
Reagan was shot!?! Who did it! They deserve a medal!
Neo Art
17-02-2008, 05:42
it's proven because Bush should've been shot between 2000-2004. He was re-elected on a year ending with a 4.

If we're gonna hold the position that it only "counts" on terms beginnig with "0" it's been disproven already. Just off the top of my head, Lincoln was killed in his second term, which started in 1865 and FDR was already into his fourth term after winning reelection in November 1944.
Kyronea
17-02-2008, 05:43
I'm reasonably certain that this Curse of Tecumseh is not only hogwash, but made up far after 1813.,
Neo Kervoskia
17-02-2008, 05:47
It's.....
Marrakech II
17-02-2008, 05:49
Someone threw a grenade at him in Georgia (the country) back in 2002. The grenade was live, but it didn't explode. The person was given a life sentence in prison.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/George_W._Bush#Assassination_attempt


Thankfully it was a Soviet grenade and didn't work properly. However it was to far away from both presidents to kill them most likely.
Demented Hamsters
17-02-2008, 05:50
Reagan was shot!?! Who did it! They deserve a medal!
please tell me you're joking and that your grasp on history truly isn't this dire.

Anyway, Reagan was braindead by his second term, does that count?
Same could be said for Bush too.

Actually, maybe this curse is what prompted Bush to invade Iraq: Ship everyone capable of holding a gun straight as far away as possible, thus lessening the risks of being shot while staying behind.
Also he wasn't really elected in 2000, remember? Thus the curse doesn't apply to him.
Jayate
17-02-2008, 05:51
George Walker Bush
2000
Nothing ye

Someone threw a grenade at him in Georgia (the country) back in 2002. The grenade was live, but it didn't explode. The person was given a life sentence in prison.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/George_W._Bush#Assassination_attempt
Vetalia
17-02-2008, 05:54
Reagan was shot!?! Who did it! They deserve a medal!

The ghost of Leon Trotsky and Alexei Kosygin.
Querinos
17-02-2008, 05:56
Reagan was shot!?! Who did it! They deserve a medal!

Get with the times.
John Hinkley Jr. shot Reagan in misguided affection for Jodi Foster.
Read more here:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jodie_Foster

If Bush had died in office he would have been myrtered. This would have given Dick all the power he needed to inact alot more insane laws.

.... Wait how could I forget George almost choked to death on a pretzle while watching the superbowl in his first term.
Port Arcana
17-02-2008, 05:58
As much as I hate Bush, I hope nothing bad happens to him... because if he gets assassinated, Darth Vader is our president. :(
Wilgrove
17-02-2008, 06:00
As much as I hate Bush, I hope nothing bad happens to him... because if he gets assassinated, Darth Vader is our president. :(

Hmmm maybe that why he hasn't died in office.
New Manvir
17-02-2008, 06:11
Bush was killed in a fictional documentary...Does that count?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Death_of_a_President
JuNii
17-02-2008, 06:25
If we're gonna hold the position that it only "counts" on terms beginnig with "0" it's been disproven already. Just off the top of my head, Lincoln was killed in his second term, which started in 1865 and FDR was already into his fourth term after winning reelection in November 1944.

That's true. and also the fact that GW almost choked to death on a pretzel and a grenade was tossed at him...
H N Fiddlebottoms VIII
17-02-2008, 07:01
So the basic premise of The Curse of Tecumseh is that in 1813, Harrison's troops defeated Tecumseh's, and this time the Indian chief was slain. As the Chief was dying, he cursed the Father of the White Man and state that Presidents who are elected in the year ending in 0 will die in office.
That seems like a pointlessly elaborate way of getting revenge; Chocorua didn't need to be so circuitous.
Tmutarakhan
17-02-2008, 07:30
it's said that Reagan broke the curse by not dying.
There was a comedy routine about that:
"Actually, Hinckley DID kill Reagan, but they covered it up: they found a body-double for Reagan." -- "You mean... all those years... some ACTOR was pretending to be the President???"
Turquoise Days
17-02-2008, 07:56
Why is a Native American chief using our dating system?
Cannot think of a name
17-02-2008, 08:55
Why is a Native American chief using our dating system?

It does seem like an oddly specific curse. You'd think if he had the power to curse it'd be something like "Your government will collapse in 50 years" or something.
Demented Hamsters
17-02-2008, 10:41
It does seem like an oddly specific curse. You'd think if he had the power to curse it'd be something like "Your government will collapse in 50 years" or something.
or, "you will all contract genital herpes". Y'know, something specific to the bastards stealing his land.
NERVUN
17-02-2008, 15:03
http://www.snopes.com/history/american/curse.asp

It's the air I tell you!
Gigantic Leprechauns
17-02-2008, 15:10
Anyway, Reagan was braindead by his second term, does that count?
Same could be said for Bush too.

How is Bush "braindead?" Don't you need to have a brain first, before it can be dead?
Gigantic Leprechauns
17-02-2008, 15:11
As much as I hate Bush, I hope nothing bad happens to him... because if he gets assassinated, Darth Vader is our president. :(

Bush is Darth Vader. Cheney is Emperor Palpatine.
Mad hatters in jeans
17-02-2008, 15:15
http://www.snopes.com/history/american/curse.asp

It's the air I tell you!

I read the first sentance of that, and started laughing.
That's as believable as the number 23 haunting other people.
Intangelon
17-02-2008, 15:30
So the basic premise of The Curse of Tecumseh is that in 1813, Harrison's troops defeated Tecumseh's, and this time the Indian chief was slain. As the Chief was dying, he cursed the Father of the White Man and state that Presidents who are elected in the year ending in 0 will die in office. Since the curse, the following has happened.

William Henry Harrison
1840
Died of pneumonia and pleurisy

Abraham (no middle name) Lincoln
1860
Was shot

James Abram Garfield
1880
Was shot

William "Big Bill" McKinley (no record of a middle name)
1900
Died from gangrene surrounding his wounds

Warren Gamaliel Harding
1920
Harding died of either a heart attack or a stroke at 7:35 p.m

Franklin Delano Roosevelt
1940
Suffered a massive cerebral hemorrhage

John Fitzgerald Kennedy
1960
Was shot

Ronald Wilson Reagan
1980
Shot, but recovered

George Walker Bush
2000
Nothing yet

With every President who were elected in years ending in 0 (except for Reagan and Bush Jr.) they have died in office. Now Reagan was shot, and there were reports that he was medically dead (but obviously came back) so I don't know if you can count that or not.

Now Bush is still alive and he only has 11 months left of his term, will something happen to him or is this curse business is just silly?

Fixed.

Correlation /= causality. You can find coincidences everywhere if you look hard enough and really want to see them.
Intangelon
17-02-2008, 15:43
Why is a Native American chief using our dating system?

A fine question.