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Pentagon plans to intercept falling satellite

Jayate
14-02-2008, 22:09
WASHINGTON - President Bush decided to make a first-of-its-kind attempt to use a missile to bring down a broken U.S. spy satellite because of the potential danger to people from its rocket fuel, officials said Thursday.

Deputy National Security Adviser James Jeffries, briefing reporters at the Pentagon, did not say when the attempted intercept would be conducted, but the satellite is expected to hit Earth during the first week of March.

http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20080214/ap_on_go_ca_st_pe/dead_satellite

Amazing. The world is sounding more and more like one giant Sci-Fi film with 6 billion actors and 196 directors.
Alexandrian Ptolemais
14-02-2008, 22:16
I heard on the radio that the reason behind the intercept was to prevent sensitive technology from being revealed - essentially by destroying the satellite, top secret technology can remain that way.
Khadgar
14-02-2008, 22:18
Sounds like a waste of a rocket to me. Ram pressure will turn that satellite into a bright spot on decent before slagging it completely. The odds of it hitting anything are incredibly remote.
Call to power
15-02-2008, 00:08
sounds like a publicity stunt

however I'm all for a good game of Missile Command :)
New Manvir
15-02-2008, 00:34
Good...If the military shoots the satellite down they won't wake up Cloverfield...

You're Welcome New York City...lousy ingrates...
JuNii
15-02-2008, 00:47
Amazing. The world is sounding more and more like one giant Sci-Fi film with 6 billion actors and 196 directors.

... and all produced over budget! :D
The Vuhifellian States
15-02-2008, 00:50
Some Wargames, anyone?
[NS]Click Stand
15-02-2008, 00:57
From what I have heard from a few articles, the blast radius should be around two football fields. Even though hitting something is pretty slim, it would still cause a whole lot of damage if it did.

Add that to the secret technology and you have a pretty good incentive to shoot down a satellite.

Now all we need is a movie about it, hopefully with a plot twist.
DrunkenDove
15-02-2008, 01:24
Click Stand;13451813']

Now all we need is a movie about it, hopefully with a plot twist.

Maybe Bruce Willis is a ghost in real life?
Non Aligned States
15-02-2008, 01:25
Click Stand;13451813']
Now all we need is a movie about it, hopefully with a plot twist.

The missile misses the satellite, and heads towards a secret Soviet era automated orbital weapons platform, which intercepts it, proving that the Russians have orbital beam weapons, starting a whole new Star wars program?
Gartref
15-02-2008, 02:01
Originally Posted by Yahoo!

WASHINGTON - President Bush decided to make a first-of-its-kind attempt to use a missile to bring down a broken U.S. spy satellite because of the potential danger to people from its rocket fuel, officials said Thursday.



Friggin warmonger Bush. How about we first try sanctions versus the satellite?
Sel Appa
15-02-2008, 03:08
Hazardous rocket fuel my ass--it's a spy satellite, what else could they be destroying...?
[NS]Click Stand
15-02-2008, 03:19
Maybe Bruce Willis is a ghost in real life?

Somebody spoiled that movie to me...while I was watching it. I will never forgive them.:mad:

The missile misses the satellite, and heads towards a secret Soviet era automated orbital weapons platform, which intercepts it, proving that the Russians have orbital beam weapons, starting a whole new Star wars program?

They could even call it Star Wars.
Honsria
15-02-2008, 03:35
Click Stand;13451813']
Now all we need is a movie about it, hopefully with a plot twist.

M NIGHT!!!!!
Boonytopia
15-02-2008, 03:45
Friggin warmonger Bush. How about we first try sanctions versus the satellite?

Will they have some sort of rehabilitation plan this time though, for after they've shot it down?
Gartref
15-02-2008, 03:47
Will they have some sort of rehabilitation plan this time though, for after they've shot it down?

They'll sweep up the pieces, squeeze out the oil and throw the rest in the trash.
H N Fiddlebottoms VIII
15-02-2008, 03:48
Friggin warmonger Bush. How about we first try sanctions versus the satellite?
You liberals make me sick. How long is it going to take before you stop being so soft on Orbital Debris?
The South Islands
15-02-2008, 03:52
Hazardous rocket fuel my ass--it's a spy satellite, what else could they be destroying...?

¿Qué?
Boonytopia
15-02-2008, 04:10
You liberals make me sick. How long is it going to take before you stop being so soft on Orbital Debris?

Hey, space junk are people too. Just because they don't look like you or speak the same language as you, doesn't make them any less human.
Wilmur
15-02-2008, 04:23
But you should catch a falling star and put it in your pocket. Save it for a rainy day.
Geniasis
15-02-2008, 04:40
Click Stand;13451813']Now all we need is a movie about it, hopefully with a plot twist.

The Democrats are allergic to water?
H N Fiddlebottoms VIII
15-02-2008, 14:50
But you should catch a falling star and put it in your pocket. Save it for a rainy day.
"...a dying, bus-sized U.S. spy satellite..."
That must be one Hell of a pocket you've got.
Ifreann
15-02-2008, 14:52
In b4 the rocket misses and hits Moscow.
The_pantless_hero
15-02-2008, 14:54
In b4 the rocket misses and hits Moscow.
Ibt rocket misses and hits a Russian spy satellite and the falling satellite hits Moscow.
Ifreann
15-02-2008, 15:03
Ib4 rocket misses and hits a Russian spy satellite and the falling satellite hits Moscow.
Ooooh, good.
Laerod
15-02-2008, 15:42
Hey, space junk are people too. Just because they don't look like you or speak the same language as you, doesn't make them any less human.Next you'll say soylent green is people and deserves rights because it's human...
Risottia
15-02-2008, 15:46
I heard on the radio that the reason behind the intercept was to prevent sensitive technology from being revealed - essentially by destroying the satellite, top secret technology can remain that way.

I don't think that a satellite that malfunctioned since the beginning can be named "sensitive top secret tech".
New Granada
15-02-2008, 15:49
A rather transparent and predictable excuse to show off our ABM technology, but smarter and more diplomatic than usual for the bush government.
Dryks Legacy
15-02-2008, 15:56
This sounds like a job for Clint Eastwood!
Ifreann
15-02-2008, 17:00
This sounds like a job for Clint Eastwood!

Fuck that. Chuck Norris can roundhouse kick it back into orbit.
Andaluciae
15-02-2008, 17:08
Hazardous rocket fuel my ass--it's a spy satellite, what else could they be destroying...?

Actually, given how it would likely respond to reentry without heat shields, there would likely not be all that much to worry about surviving, and given that (from the early estimates I'd read) this guy was likely to come down over North America, this would actually seem to be the sort of thing that wouldn't be much of a concern.
New Granada
15-02-2008, 17:16
Hazardous rocket fuel my ass--it's a spy satellite, what else could they be destroying...?

Stupid-

the point isn't that we are destroying this particular satellite, the point is that we get to flex our ABM might to the Chinese and the Russians.

A side benefit might be convincing rubes in foreign intelligence that we have something so super secret and indestructible that we absolutely have to use some kind of secret super destructive missile to annihilate it, and getting them to waste money and man hours worrying about it.
OceanDrive2
15-02-2008, 17:21
Hazardous rocket fuel my ass--it's a spy satellite, what else could they be destroying...?The satellite has the "tapes" of the Jets-Patriots game. :D :D :p :D
Yootopia
15-02-2008, 21:16
"It carried a sophisticated and secret imaging sensor."

There's the real reason for all this.
Entropic Creation
15-02-2008, 21:16
How can you people be ridiculing this?
The government is saving us from the coming zombie apocalypse.

Night of the living dead aside, its a good way to show a AEGIS cruiser can take out a satellite (thus giving a not so subtle encouragement against certain countries investing in putting military assets in space) as well as a minor hint at long range missile interception.
Andaluciae
15-02-2008, 21:18
Stupid-

the point isn't that we are destroying this particular satellite, the point is that we get to flex our ABM might to the Chinese and the Russians.

A side benefit might be convincing rubes in foreign intelligence that we have something so super secret and indestructible that we absolutely have to use some kind of secret super destructive missile to annihilate it, and getting them to waste money and man hours worrying about it.


The Philosophy of SDI in action...
The Atlantian islands
15-02-2008, 21:20
The Philosophy of SDI in action...
Reagan...he lives?
Tmutarakhan
15-02-2008, 22:19
If we shoot at the satellite and completely miss, how much will we look like idiots?
Lunatic Goofballs
15-02-2008, 22:19
http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20080214/ap_on_go_ca_st_pe/dead_satellite

Amazing. The world is sounding more and more like one giant Sci-Fi film with 6 billion actors and 196 directors.

What could possibly go wrong?


:eek:
Yootopia
15-02-2008, 22:29
If we shoot at the satellite and completely miss, how much will we look like idiots?
Why would anybody be told that you've missed?
CoallitionOfTheWilling
15-02-2008, 22:31
If we shoot at the satellite and completely miss, how much will we look like idiots?

None, we'd just fire a secondary missile.
[NS]Click Stand
15-02-2008, 22:34
None, we'd just fire a secondary missile.

My guess is the U.S on;t built one missile, and then destroyed the plans. There may only be one.
Yootopia
15-02-2008, 22:36
Click Stand;13454502']My guess is the U.S on;t built one missile, and then destroyed the plans. There may only be one.
[General James Cartwright] said that if an initial shoot-down attempt fails, the military would have about two days to reassess and decide whether to take a second shot.
Nope.
Yootopia
15-02-2008, 23:15
If we miss twice, how big of an idiot will we look like?
To reiterate -

Why would they tell anyone?

"MOSCOW IN FLAMES!"

*ring ring*

"Was a meteorite, Vlad, and we'll send some technicians over to fix up your aircraft carriers"
"Sounds good"
Tmutarakhan
15-02-2008, 23:19
None, we'd just fire a secondary missile.

If we miss twice, how big of an idiot will we look like?
Geniasis
15-02-2008, 23:19
Fuck that. Chuck Norris can roundhouse kick it back into orbit.

I see your Chuck Norris and raise you one Bruce Lee.
South Lizasauria
16-02-2008, 01:23
http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20080214/ap_on_go_ca_st_pe/dead_satellite

Amazing. The world is sounding more and more like one giant Sci-Fi film with 6 billion actors and 196 directors.

This is probably to show China that the US can shoot down satellites like they can.
Andaluciae
16-02-2008, 02:07
Reagan...he lives?

Sort of... (http://i106.photobucket.com/albums/m242/soapblox/zombie-reagan.jpg)