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Hezbollah chief threatens Israel

Corneliu 2
14-02-2008, 17:00
Hezbollah chief threatens Israel (http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20080214/ap_on_re_mi_ea/lebanon)

Well that did not take long. Damn Hezbollah.
Khadgar
14-02-2008, 17:08
In other news water has been shown to on occasion be wet.

Israel, Palestine, nuke the whole fucking thing and be done with it.
Zilam
14-02-2008, 17:19
In other news water has been shown to on occasion be wet.

Wet you say?! What an outrageous class of thought!
Yootopia
14-02-2008, 17:19
Err... that's kind of his job. What's the shock here?
Siylva
14-02-2008, 17:29
Hezbollah chief threatens Israel (http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20080214/ap_on_re_mi_ea/lebanon)

Well that did not take long. Damn Hezbollah.

I'm confused...what are people supposed to be debating here?:confused:
New Drakonia
14-02-2008, 18:09
I'm confused...what are people supposed to be debating here?:confused:

Favorite flavours of Ice-Cream?

Also, yeah, this is hardly a shock. Sadly enough :(
OceanDrive2
14-02-2008, 18:14
Favorite flavours of Ice-CreamIll have some Mango number 5 please :D
Soyut
14-02-2008, 18:28
Valentines day sux

woops wrong thread
Hezballoh
14-02-2008, 19:07
Hezbollah chief threatens Israel (http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20080214/ap_on_re_mi_ea/lebanon)

Well that did not take long. Damn Hezbollah.

did you expect them to stay quiet? you amuse me sometimes Corny
Hezballoh
14-02-2008, 19:19
Well that did not take long. Damn Hezbollah.

what? :( they made me do it Corny, the big boys said theyd tease me if i didnt do it, i'm sorry *sniffles, with eyes watering*
The State of New York
14-02-2008, 20:20
What else is new.
Corneliu 2
14-02-2008, 20:40
did you expect them to stay quiet? you amuse me sometimes Corny

So if Hezbollah sparks another war with Israel, even though there is no proof that Israel was behind it, you'll support Hezbollah?
Rakysh
14-02-2008, 20:42
So if Hezbollah sparks another war with Israel, even though there is no proof that Israel was behind it, you'll support Hezbollah?

Where in the names all the gods in existence did you get that from? Hezbollah is known to be anti zionist- if you can blame your enemy for something, you do. The fact that they have is not suprising.
Corneliu 2
14-02-2008, 20:46
Where in the names all the gods in existence did you get that from? Hezbollah is known to be anti zionist- if you can blame your enemy for something, you do. The fact that they have is not suprising.

Well the Hezbollah chief did mention war...
Rakysh
14-02-2008, 20:48
All Hezballoh was saying (from what I can gather) is that it is not altogether surprising that they have done this.
Corneliu 2
14-02-2008, 20:50
All Hezballoh was saying (from what I can gather) is that it is not altogether surprising that they have done this.

And its not even known if Israel actually did it. Is there evidence of Israeli involvement?
Rakysh
14-02-2008, 20:51
Mein GOTT!
All he was saying was that it was not suprising that they have done it. Not that what they did was right, or wrong, but the fact that an orgaization like this would say that israel is responsible. Can I make it any more clearer?
Hezballoh
14-02-2008, 20:54
So if Hezbollah sparks another war with Israel, even though there is no proof that Israel was behind it, you'll support Hezbollah?

you seem to think Nasrallah to be a fool, he knows he cant face a war on 2 fronts: (Israel/Lebanese opposition) so he'll just make speechs and maybe lob a missile or 2 while he focuses on the real issue: the goverment
Corneliu 2
14-02-2008, 20:57
Mein GOTT!
All he was saying was that it was not suprising that they have done it. Not that what they did was right, or wrong, but the fact that an orgaization like this would say that israel is responsible. Can I make it any more clearer?

So tell me? Did Israel do it.
Rakysh
14-02-2008, 21:05
NO!!

*deep breath*

It is not suprising that Hezbollah would say that it was israel. It may have been them, it may not have. It doesn't matter, that was not the issue being addressed. All I was saying is that it is the kind of thing they would do- blame it on their most immediate enemies. not whether the action was morally wrong or right, but that is was, and that it is not suprising that it was. Need I spell it out any more
OceanDrive2
14-02-2008, 21:06
So tell me? Did Israel do it.Probably
Corneliu 2
14-02-2008, 21:20
Probably

And your proof?
Corneliu 2
14-02-2008, 21:24
OD doesn't provide proof. He just provides troll answers and asks retarded questions.

Oh I know. Its fun to poke him though.
HaMedinat Yisrael
14-02-2008, 21:28
In other news water has been shown to on occasion be wet.

Israel, Palestine, nuke the whole fucking thing and be done with it.

Please tell me you are beitn sarcastic. Otherwise, you belong in the state of Indiana alright. I have only lived in the state going to school at Purdue, but that is enough time to see that you fit in with the redneck townies when you make such a simplistic and ignorant comment.
HaMedinat Yisrael
14-02-2008, 21:29
And your proof?

OD doesn't provide proof. He just provides troll answers and asks retarded questions.
Fortuna_Fortes_Juvat
14-02-2008, 21:31
Probably

If they did, the Mossad would have taken credit for it. It would make them look reaaly good, and, they already have a past precedent for doing so.

EDIT: Why am I providing OD with a serious answer? Masochism, I guess.
OceanDrive2
14-02-2008, 21:33
And your proof?I also said that it was probable the Jags were going to beat the Steelers.

and when someone asked me for proof I laughed at him. (I think it was not you that time, its still a perfect example of your futility)
... and just the same I laugh at you today.

as matter of fact you have asked me like 500 times for proof when I say something is likely or Probable, thank you Corneliu for all those Laughs, you are a priceless source of entertainment. :D
OceanDrive2
14-02-2008, 21:34
If they did, the Mossad would have taken credit for it. It would make them look reaaly good, and, they already have a past precedent for doing so.You claim to know Why the Mossad does things or doesn't?
Khadgar
14-02-2008, 21:37
Please tell me you are beitn sarcastic. Otherwise, you belong in the state of Indiana alright. I have only lived in the state going to school at Purdue, but that is enough time to see that you fit in with the redneck townies when you make such a simplistic and ignorant comment.

Pro-Israelis are always a jolly good romp. Yeah, nuke the whole fucking place, or carpet bomb it with conventional weapons if nukes are distasteful. Kill 'em all. Probably do less damage than watching the Middle East implode for the next century or two til they grow up and learn to stop being such fucking idiots on a massive scale.

Of course I could be wrong, given how Palestine usually ends up on the numbers game that is suicide bombing on Israel and missile attack "assassination" from Israel it's pretty clear it's not sustainable. They'd run out of Palestinians pretty quick. Who knows, maybe in another few generations one side will finally annihilate the other by attrition. A slow bloody grind.
Nodinia
14-02-2008, 21:37
Well the Hezbollah chief did mention war...


Its the middle east and some guys funeral. A guy who was more than likely sent to his funeral by Israel. Everybody gets upset, swears eternal vengenance, then goes home. When they fire missles (real ones, not that shite they have in Gaza) start a thread.
Nodinia
14-02-2008, 21:39
And its not even known if Israel actually did it.

So the fact they tried to kill him at least once before.....?
Firstistan
14-02-2008, 21:47
Hezbollah's been holding Lebanon hostage for long enough.
OceanDrive2
14-02-2008, 21:52
...been holding Lebanon hostage for long enough.I would say Israel has been occupying Palestine for long enough.
Corneliu 2
14-02-2008, 21:52
(I think it was not you that time, its still a perfect example of your futility)... and just the same I laugh at you today.

And yet you still have not provided an answer.

as matter of fact you have asked me like 500 times for proof when I say something is likely or Probable, thank you Corneliu for all those Laughs, you are a priceless source of entertainment. :D

So what is your proof?
OceanDrive2
14-02-2008, 21:54
And yet you still have not provided an answer.

So what is your proof?You can beg for it all day if you want.. it amuses me. Thank you. :D
Corneliu 2
14-02-2008, 21:54
So the fact they tried to kill him at least once before.....?

And failed obviously however, there is no proof, as far as I know, that Israel was behind the carbombing.
Corneliu 2
14-02-2008, 21:54
You can beg for it all day if you want.. it amuses me. Thank you. :D

Whatever troll
OceanDrive2
14-02-2008, 21:58
And failed obviously however, there is no proof, as far as I know, that Israel was behind the carbombing.You did not get the memo? :cool: The US has changed the rules.
You dont need proof anymore, just ask anyone Hijacked, Renditioned and Tortured or ask anyone at Guantanamo.

All the US gov needs is someone thinking you did it.
OceanDrive2
14-02-2008, 22:00
Whatever trollDont cry, just dont cry for me Argentina. :cool:
Corneliu 2
14-02-2008, 22:03
Dont cry, just dont cry for me Argentina. :cool:

Evita sucked as a musical.
OceanDrive2
14-02-2008, 22:05
Evita sucked as a musical.I agree.

>> going AFK in 2", see you all later >>
Andaras
15-02-2008, 00:19
So if Hezbollah sparks another war with Israel, even though there is no proof that Israel was behind it, you'll support Hezbollah?

Actually the first war was initiated by Israel, they kidnapped Samir Al-Quntar and his comrades and refused to release them, the Hezbollah raid which supposedly started the war (Operation Truthful Promise) was meant for Hezbollah to gain some negotiation leverage in a hostage transfer. Even then raid was immediate response by Hezbollah to IDF incursions into the Zar'it-Shtula area, into Shi'ite towns.
New Stalinberg
15-02-2008, 00:27
I vote Israel kick more ass.

Again.

Just so the surrounding candy-ass states know they're all business.
Psychotic Mongooses
15-02-2008, 00:33
I seriously think Corny and OD are actually married.

They sound so...... well, married. :p
Tmutarakhan
15-02-2008, 02:20
So the fact they tried to kill him at least once before.....?
...is supporting evidence that Israel would have just announced "We killed him, and we're glad" if in fact they had done so. I don't know who killed him (neither does any of us, who are we, intelligence agents?) but I would think the Israelis are not likely.
Honsria
15-02-2008, 02:30
Isn't threatening Isreal their default position?
Psychotic Mongooses
15-02-2008, 02:35
...is supporting evidence that Israel would have just announced "We killed him, and we're glad" if in fact they had done so.

Or, you know..... not.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Operation_Wrath_of_God
Andaras
15-02-2008, 03:21
Isn't threatening Isreal their default position?
What do you think Israel would do if Hezbollah assassinated an IDF General or something? Hezbollah has equal right to reply.
Honsria
15-02-2008, 03:25
What do you think Israel would do if Hezbollah assassinated an IDF General or something? Hezbollah has equal right to reply.

Well, the difference is that Hezbollah doesn't actually know that Israel did anything, unless they have some evidence that for some reason they aren't sharing with the world. Besides which that whole region is basically in a state of war, so I would expect them to be threatening each other.
Andaras
15-02-2008, 04:54
Well, the difference is that Hezbollah doesn't actually know that Israel did anything, unless they have some evidence that for some reason they aren't sharing with the world. Besides which that whole region is basically in a state of war, so I would expect them to be threatening each other.

Lol, history of Mossad, that pretty much removes doubt.
Honsria
15-02-2008, 06:51
Lol, history of Mossad, that pretty much removes doubt.

Well, that's true. I'm not saying that they didn't do it, but it is telling that Hezbollah can't provide any proof of their involvement. The Israelies aren't the only ones who would've wanted this guy dead though.
Andaras
15-02-2008, 08:28
Well, that's true. I'm not saying that they didn't do it, but it is telling that Hezbollah can't provide any proof of their involvement. The Israelies aren't the only ones who would've wanted this guy dead though.
Who else, the CIA? Maybe but Hezbollah seems them as the same as the Israelis.
New Granada
15-02-2008, 09:01
After Israel's recent war of collective punishment against lebanon's civilians, I would imagine Hezbollah has done a lot of threatening.

Not to mention the israelis just assassinated one of hezbollah's leaders...
Oppreshun
15-02-2008, 09:09
Great idea: Announce plans to neutron bomb southern Lebanon. Give 40 days warning. All those left behind will be Hezbollah supporters, because they don't want to leave. Then for the next like 30-100 years, the area will be uninhabitable, so no one will be able to fight over the holy land. It's drastic, cruel, and insane. But it could potentially work.
New Granada
15-02-2008, 09:12
Great idea: Announce plans to neutron bomb southern Lebanon. Give 40 days warning. All those left behind will be Hezbollah supporters, because they don't want to leave. Then for the next like 30-100 years, the area will be uninhabitable, so no one will be able to fight over the holy land. It's drastic, cruel, and insane. But it could potentially work.

Would there be anything wrong with doing that to tel aviv in retaliliation?
Java-Minang
15-02-2008, 09:13
Great idea: Announce plans to neutron bomb southern Lebanon. Give 40 days warning. All those left behind will be Hezbollah supporters, because they don't want to leave. Then for the next like 30-100 years, the area will be uninhabitable, so no one will be able to fight over the holy land. It's drastic, cruel, and insane. But it could potentially work.
You are just trolling, or flame-baiting?


PS: You lost. If you're an American, that would make your lands be some target practices of the Russian's and Iran's missile (nuclear, if they have any...)
Java-Minang
15-02-2008, 09:15
Nah, the second round would be:
The IDF dudes dieds.
The Israelis mad
They couped
They charged at Hezbullah
They died....
Hezballoh
15-02-2008, 09:19
Well, the difference is that Hezbollah doesn't actually know that Israel did anything, unless they have some evidence that for some reason they aren't sharing with the world. Besides which that whole region is basically in a state of war, so I would expect them to be threatening each other.

you mean they cant prove it, there is a difference, see:
israel kills Hezballoh leader
Hezballoh blames israel
israel says it wasnt us
hezballoh gets mad
israel lols at them
hezballoh tries to kill IDF dude
round 2 starts :D
just my idea
also i think it was mossad that killed hariri
Gauthier
15-02-2008, 09:23
Great idea: Announce plans to neutron bomb southern Lebanon. Give 40 days warning. All those left behind will be Hezbollah supporters, because they don't want to leave. Then for the next like 30-100 years, the area will be uninhabitable, so no one will be able to fight over the holy land. It's drastic, cruel, and insane. But it could potentially work.

Kimchi, is that you?
Redwulf
15-02-2008, 09:36
Kimchi, is that you?

I seem to recall him making a similar argument at one point. But this probably isn't him, just yet another person who happens to live in his house and think exactly the same (as I think he claimed of all of the Kimchi Collective).
Andaras
15-02-2008, 09:42
At this point another Israeli clash with Hezbollah would have them all the more influential, I mean we saw what the first war did for Hezbollah.
Nodinia
15-02-2008, 10:27
.....but I would think the Israelis are not likely.

Yes, they are so reluctant to kill "militants" after all.....I think PM provided a good answer to your remark as well.....
Hamilay
15-02-2008, 10:31
In other news, yesterday Fred Phelps said something offensive.
Hezballoh
15-02-2008, 11:44
At this point another Israeli clash with Hezbollah would have them all the more influential, I mean we saw what the first war did for Hezbollah.

:rolleyes:, that was because Israel wasnt prepared Andaras, you think they wont be now? not to mention all the collateral damage to my country?
Hezballoh
15-02-2008, 11:45
Nah, the second round would be:
The IDF dudes dieds.
The Israelis mad
They couped
They charged at Hezbullah
They died....

who dies?
Andaras
15-02-2008, 11:52
:rolleyes:, that was because Israel wasnt prepared Andaras, you think they wont be now? not to mention all the collateral damage to my country?

Actually the IDF has grown lax and overbureucratic. I will give you that they weren't prepared for the initial Hezbollah raid, but after that they initiated the invasion...
Hezballoh
15-02-2008, 13:16
Actually the IDF has grown lax and overbureucratic. I will give you that they weren't prepared for the initial Hezbollah raid, but after that they initiated the invasion...

They wont be from now on, the IDF, is the only reason Israel is still alive, theyll reform it, and unless an Arab Military forces does anything lebanon is screwed
Corneliu 2
15-02-2008, 14:11
They wont be from now on, the IDF, is the only reason Israel is still alive, theyll reform it, and unless an Arab Military forces does anything lebanon is screwed

And the arab world won't do anything either.
Hezballoh
15-02-2008, 15:59
And the arab world won't do anything either.

so true, those pussy footing bastards wont do shit but they'll still boast, unlike nasrallah who manages to keep his word Israel you have been warned
OceanDrive2
15-02-2008, 16:06
They wont be from now on, the IDF, is the only reason Israel is still alive, theyll reform it, and unless an Arab Military forces does anything lebanon is screwedThe Arab military of what Country?
Corneliu 2
15-02-2008, 16:18
so true, those pussy footing bastards wont do shit but they'll still boast, unlike nasrallah who manages to keep his word Israel you have been warned

And I am sure Israel is prepared in case Hezbollah does anything stupid.
OceanDrive2
15-02-2008, 16:38
Not to mention the israelis just assassinated one of hezbollah's leaders...Big mistake by Israel.
Hezballoh
15-02-2008, 17:04
The Arab military of what Country?

any country doesnt really matter
Hezballoh
15-02-2008, 17:07
And I am sure Israel is prepared in case Hezbollah does anything stupid.

and vice versa
OceanDrive2
15-02-2008, 17:08
any country doesnt really matterOk lets say Syria or Saudi Arabia then...

Lets say you are the Saudi Dictator or the Syrian Dictator, what would you do?
Honsria
15-02-2008, 18:46
You are just trolling, or flame-baiting?


PS: You lost. If you're an American, that would make your lands be some target practices of the Russian's and Iran's missile (nuclear, if they have any...)

Umm, I don't want to nit-pick, but Iran definitely doesn't have any missiles that can reach any US soil. Embassies yes, but not the mainland at all.
Honsria
15-02-2008, 18:49
Who else, the CIA? Maybe but Hezbollah seems them as the same as the Israelis.

Well, there was a $25 million reward on his head, so it could potentially be anybody. I'm sure that there are a number of governments around the world who would like to see him dead. I personally don't know if the CIA has their shit together enough to pull something like this.
Fortuna_Fortes_Juvat
15-02-2008, 19:55
so true, those pussy footing bastards wont do shit but they'll still boast, unlike nasrallah who manages to keep his word Israel you have been warned

Nasrallah is the biggest chicken-shit ever. He's all talk. Hiding in schools and mosques while selling faked footage is hardly brave.
Tmutarakhan
15-02-2008, 20:14
Yes, they are so reluctant to kill "militants" after all.....
And they are SO reluctant to say that they have killed a militant, after all...
Nodinia
15-02-2008, 21:23
And they are SO reluctant to say that they have killed a militant, after all...

Depends where they kill them.....
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fathi_Shaqaqi
The Atlantian islands
15-02-2008, 21:29
Well this should be interesting....do people here think this could escalate into something like the summer war?
Yootopia
15-02-2008, 21:41
Well this should be interesting....do people here think this could escalate into something like the summer war?
No, because it's too early in the year, and the Israeli government is in somewhat dire straits in terms of its coalition strenth, with Yisrael Beiteinu leaving the coalition earlier this year - sending a few thousand reservists off for what will essentially be a pointless attack wouldn't be particularly popular with the more left-wing coalition members, and it wouldn't help Israel's cause in Lebanon, either.
Mirkana
15-02-2008, 21:45
Hezbollah would have to launch a sustained rocket barrage.
Psychotic Mongooses
15-02-2008, 22:23
And they are SO reluctant to say that they have killed a militant, after all...

Again....

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Operation_Wrath_of_God
[NS]Click Stand
15-02-2008, 22:29
Again....

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Operation_Wrath_of_God

Best...Operation...Name...Ever!
Yootopia
15-02-2008, 22:30
Click Stand;13454481']Best...Operation...Name...Ever!
I dunno, "Ranch Hand" always amused me.
OceanDrive2
15-02-2008, 22:51
Well, there was a $25 million reward on his head.25 Million for his head?

... offered by?
Hezballoh
15-02-2008, 22:55
Nasrallah is the biggest chicken-shit ever. He's all talk. Hiding in schools and mosques while selling faked footage is hardly brave.

lol, the man isnt stupid, his predecessor was gunned down by helicopters along with is family, and PS he isnt talk, when has he said something and not followed through?
Yootopia
15-02-2008, 23:00
25 Million for his head?

... offered by?
The US Government, he was, after all, on the Most Wanted List.
OceanDrive2
15-02-2008, 23:04
1. 2 fucking busy drinking and partying and rolling in petrodollars
2. stay the fuck quiet and hope they dont look at you.Well .. isn't that exactly what they are doing??
Hezballoh
15-02-2008, 23:05
Ok lets say Syria or Saudi Arabia then...

Lets say you are the 1. Saudi Dictator or the 2. Syrian Dictator, what would you do?
1. 2 fucking busy drinking and partying and rolling in petrodollars :mad:
2. stay the fuck quiet and hope they dont look at you.
Yootopia
15-02-2008, 23:06
So what do you think of this case?
6 dead in Gaza blast (http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20080215/ap_on_re_mi_ea/gaza_explosion)
Israel says it looks like a rocket factory blew up. Jihad says it was Israeli planes.
The Israelis blew up a rocket factory in an airstrike. Both sides win!
OceanDrive2
15-02-2008, 23:06
25 Million for his head?... offered by?The US Government (offered 25 million for his assassination) I see.

In most countries, you are guilty of assassination, if you do it, or if you pay to do it.
Tmutarakhan
15-02-2008, 23:08
So what do you think of this case?
6 dead in Gaza blast (http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20080215/ap_on_re_mi_ea/gaza_explosion)
Israel says it looks like a rocket factory blew up. Jihad says it was Israeli planes.
Yootopia
15-02-2008, 23:11
I see.

In most countries, you are guilty of assassination, if you do it, or if you pay to do it.
The US government can get away with a lot of things that individuals can't, for better or for worse.
Corneliu 2
15-02-2008, 23:14
So what do you think of this case?
6 dead in Gaza blast (http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20080215/ap_on_re_mi_ea/gaza_explosion)
Israel says it looks like a rocket factory blew up. Jihad says it was Israeli planes.

mmm...Interesting!
OceanDrive2
15-02-2008, 23:20
The US government can get away with a lot of things that individuals can't, for better or for worse.who says individuals cant? the US gov should be my example of moral acceptability.

If its morally acceptable for them to pay for assassination, why should it be morally unacceptable for Joe Average, all he needs to do is keep it secret.
Yootopia
15-02-2008, 23:24
who says individuals cant? the US gov should be my example of moral acceptability.

If its morally acceptable for them to pay for assassination, why should it be morally unacceptable for Joe Average, all he needs to do is keep it secret.
I'm not saying that how it should be, I'm just saying that's how it is.
OceanDrive2
15-02-2008, 23:50
I'm not saying that how it should be, I'm just saying that's how it is.You are right.

BTW, I retracted my last post on the Gaza incident thread. It was overkill and it was uncalled for. my mistake.