NationStates Jolt Archive


Gameplayers VS Generalites

Hachihyaku
12-02-2008, 21:41
Yeah it is pretty shit. Didn't the North Pacific get invaded by Gatesville?
Neo Kervoskia
12-02-2008, 21:45
Gameplay was....interesting. I've never seen so much paranoia and instability. Did you know the Feeders had their own governments? There's been four governments in The North Pacific in the past year. There's an emperor in The Pacific and a thousand little squabbles in between. They don't like the Generalites and generally Generalites don't care for gameplayers. So after three years of being a gameplayer...time to get back to NSG.

Do you think gameplay is ridiculous shit?
Jello Biafra
12-02-2008, 21:48
Oh, so that's where you've been.

*examines Neo K for signs of trauma*
Neo Kervoskia
12-02-2008, 21:49
Yeah it is pretty shit. Didn't the North Pacific get invaded by Gatesville?

Yes, third time in 9 months.
Cannot think of a name
12-02-2008, 21:54
Generalites repelled an invasion of a Generalite region a while ago. It was kind of fun because the invaders were kinda new and didn't know they were hitting a Gereralite hornet's nest. While they were role-playing we came in being the jabbering horde that we are, caught them totally by surprise. That was fun, but doing it for realz doesn't seem as much to me.
OceanDrive2
12-02-2008, 22:05
Do you think gameplay is ridiculous shit?No. I dont.

But it fails to make me go WoW... even after 4 pills of Viagra. :D
UN Protectorates
12-02-2008, 22:10
Generalites repelled an invasion of a Generalite region a while ago. It was kind of fun because the invaders were kinda new and didn't know they were hitting a Gereralite hornet's nest. While they were role-playing we came in being the jabbering horde that we are, caught them totally by surprise. That was fun, but doing it for realz doesn't seem as much to me.

May I inquire where I may find this region, if it still exists? I'd love to move somewhere were I'm not bothered by "Will you support the delegate" telegrams, but I'm not alone either.
Cannot think of a name
12-02-2008, 22:16
May I inquire where I may find this region, if it still exists? I'd love to move somewhere were I'm not bothered by "Will you support the delegate" telegrams, but I'm not alone either.

I don't remember what it's called. Pure Metal and WYTYG are in it, I think. Well, I know WYTYG was/is in it, she was our General.
UN Protectorates
12-02-2008, 22:19
However that invasion went, it sounds like it was hilarious. I read the aftermath thread somewhere, where the enemy leader actually congratulated a number of people.
Jello Biafra
12-02-2008, 22:22
May I inquire where I may find this region, if it still exists? I'd love to move somewhere were I'm not bothered by "Will you support the delegate" telegrams, but I'm not alone either.[url]-deleted-
(Maybe someone will be nice enough to give you the password. ;))
Trotskylvania
12-02-2008, 23:17
http://www.nationstates.net/58637/page=display_region
(Maybe someone will be nice enough to give you the password. ;))

bad link, Jello. It will take the person to whatever region they are currently in.

Go here instead (http://www.nationstates.net/41201/page=display_region/region=democratic_communist_states)
Mythotic Kelkia
12-02-2008, 23:24
I don't understand the roleplayers. If practically none of the stuff they talk about is actually accounted for by the game like war, how do they stop people just going "i nuke you and I win"?
Whereyouthinkyougoing
12-02-2008, 23:26
May I inquire where I may find this region, if it still exists? I'd love to move somewhere were I'm not bothered by "Will you support the delegate" telegrams, but I'm not alone either.
You can TG me, I'm still in the region. Pure Metal is the delegate but he's never online.
Whereyouthinkyougoing
12-02-2008, 23:28
So after three years of being a gameplayer...time to get back to NSG.?
Zilam
12-02-2008, 23:44
I have my region locked, and isolated. No one can invade me, so there is no real game play aspect for me.
Jello Biafra
13-02-2008, 00:36
bad link, Jello. It will take the person to whatever region they are currently in.

Go here instead (http://www.nationstates.net/41201/page=display_region/region=democratic_communist_states)Oh, how interesting. I suppose I should've realized that.
Trotskylvania
13-02-2008, 00:42
Oh, how interesting. I suppose I should've realized that.

Happens to the best of us.

It is a series of tubes, after all. :p
Imperial isa
13-02-2008, 01:01
Generalites repelled an invasion of a Generalite region a while ago. It was kind of fun because the invaders were kinda new and didn't know they were hitting a Gereralite hornet's nest. While they were role-playing we came in being the jabbering horde that we are, caught them totally by surprise. That was fun, but doing it for realz doesn't seem as much to me.

yur i'am still waiting for my medal for helping
Romanar
13-02-2008, 01:07
Welcome to this oddball corner of the NS Universe, NK. :)

Personally, I don't understand this divide between gameplay and General. I do both, but it seems like a lot of people do one or the other.
Boonytopia
13-02-2008, 07:45
Gameplay was....interesting. I've never seen so much paranoia and instability. Did you know the Feeders had their own governments? There's been four governments in The North Pacific in the past year. There's an emperor in The Pacific and a thousand little squabbles in between. They don't like the Generalites and generally Generalites don't care for gameplayers. So after three years of being a gameplayer...time to get back to NSG.

Do you think gameplay is ridiculous shit?

Short answer: yes.

Long answer: yes it is.
Vetalia
13-02-2008, 08:17
Psh, Gameplay. Everybody knows II is where the real RP happens.
Cannot think of a name
13-02-2008, 08:18
yur i'am still waiting for my medal for helping

Hey, come to think of it, I didn't get my medal either.

Those bastards!!!
Kandarin
13-02-2008, 08:30
I don't understand the roleplayers. If practically none of the stuff they talk about is actually accounted for by the game like war, how do they stop people just going "i nuke you and I win"?

Mutual respect, agreement on rules, and shutting out anyone who won't do those first two steps. It's a semi-closed community, although I don't mean that in a bad way. It's more like several people working together to write a novel than actual 'role-play'. That said, the degree of confusion is directly proportional to the degree to which the thread has to do with war.

And yes, gameplay is crazy and a little alien to people who aren't used to it...but I could say the same about you guys and the RP boards. It all makes sense once you get the basic premise of the Gameplay'verse: the nations are citizens/politicians/soldiers/whatever. The regions are nations. Regions, not nations, are the true Nation-states.
Vetalia
13-02-2008, 08:41
Mutual respect, agreement on rules, and shutting out anyone who won't do those first two steps. It's a semi-closed community, although I don't mean that in a bad way. It's more like several people working together to fight a novel tha actual 'role-play'. That said, the degree of confusion is directly proportional to the degree to which the thread has to do with war.

Yes, which is why closed threads are so useful...I can personally attest to how complicated a war can get with too many participants. This is a big reason why I'd like to see somebody, or preferably a group of experienced RPers, create a working combat system; this would allow the more rapid resolution of battles and a more developed storyline rather than pages and pages of documentation describing the actual combat and technology.

For those of us who like wars on a "macro" scale (showing the effects of the war rather than individual battles), this is perfect. Plus, it would actually allow wars to end and produce realistic casualties, something rare in more than a few RPs.
Kandarin
13-02-2008, 08:46
Yes, which is why closed threads are so useful...I can personally attest to how complicated a war can get with too many participants. This is a big reason why I'd like to see somebody, or preferably a group of experienced RPers, create a working combat system; this would allow the more rapid resolution of battles and a more developed storyline rather than pages and pages of documentation describing the actual combat and technology.

For those of us who like wars on a "macro" scale (showing the effects of the war rather than individual battles), this is perfect. Plus, it would actually allow wars to end and produce realistic casualties, something rare in more than a few RPs.

...I actually said 'fight a novel', didn't I? Sorry about that.

Yeah, that'd be a lot better. The current system requires more knowledge of military technology, tactics and history than most people will ever learn. Unfortunately, it's all too easy to blame that on deficiencies within NS itself, even though it's basically a user-driven game.
Callisdrun
13-02-2008, 10:03
Gameplay was....interesting. I've never seen so much paranoia and instability. Did you know the Feeders had their own governments? There's been four governments in The North Pacific in the past year. There's an emperor in The Pacific and a thousand little squabbles in between. They don't like the Generalites and generally Generalites don't care for gameplayers. So after three years of being a gameplayer...time to get back to NSG.

Do you think gameplay is ridiculous shit?

Never did the whole invading/defending thing much. I've always considered myself an RPer, and secondly a Generalite.
Callisdrun
13-02-2008, 10:37
Mutual respect, agreement on rules, and shutting out anyone who won't do those first two steps. It's a semi-closed community, although I don't mean that in a bad way. It's more like several people working together to write a novel than actual 'role-play'. That said, the degree of confusion is directly proportional to the degree to which the thread has to do with war.

And yes, gameplay is crazy and a little alien to people who aren't used to it...but I could say the same about you guys and the RP boards. It all makes sense once you get the basic premise of the Gameplay'verse: the nations are citizens/politicians/soldiers/whatever. The regions are nations. Regions, not nations, are the true Nation-states.

Indeed. If you're a piss-poor writer and an asshole who posts implausible crap allowing you to always win, nobody's going to play with you (figurative "you" in this sentence). It's why you ironically aren't very likely to create a very good war thread with someone you don't get along with OOC.

And sometimes the game itself does have bearing on your roleplaying, like people refusing to make economic deals with nations that have "imploded" or "basket-case" economies.
Callisdrun
13-02-2008, 10:39
Psh, Gameplay. Everybody knows II is where the real RP happens.

NS is better. II was good years ago.
Laerod
13-02-2008, 10:39
Do you think gameplay is ridiculous shit?Nah, it's just not my cup o' tea. To each their own, I guess.
Kandarin
13-02-2008, 10:46
Psh, Gameplay. Everybody knows II is where the real RP happens.

It's not really the same. 'RP' is one of those words (like 'liberty' and 'free checking') that can mean several different things depending on who you ask. The thing that's called 'RP' on II or NS is basically "writing". The thing that's called 'RP' out in the Gameplay'verse is more like "acting". On top of that, some Gameplay players (myself included) will insist that they're not roleplaying at all and that their Internet persona and real personalities are one and the same.

This is the sort of thing that makes me wish that we didn't use the term 'RPing' at all. It's vague and misleading enough even within a forum like II. On any sort of cultural barrier, it simply becomes meaningless.
Andaras
13-02-2008, 10:50
I think it is the secret goal of the NPO is destroy all internet-based nation simulations.
Romanar
14-02-2008, 13:48
...I actually said 'fight a novel', didn't I? Sorry about that.

Yeah, that'd be a lot better. The current system requires more knowledge of military technology, tactics and history than most people will ever learn. Unfortunately, it's all too easy to blame that on deficiencies within NS itself, even though it's basically a user-driven game.

Yeah, the focus on military is one of the reasons I don't do much RP anymore. Plus, I have frequent "writers block", especially when I'm busy IRL (which is very often). I still RP in Gameplay, and with multiple nations, I can have fun with multiple personas (does that make me sound like a mental case?).
Peisandros
14-02-2008, 13:55
I tried a few RP things.. It can be pretty fun I guess but I never really got too involved with it.

Spam > general > gameplay.
Draztonia
15-02-2008, 16:33
I think it is the secret goal of the NPO is destroy all internet-based nation simulations.

lol Andaras
Creepy Lurker
15-02-2008, 16:50
One of my old nations was in Gatesville... It was quite interesting to watch. Never actively played though.