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What about Alan Keyes?

Knights of Liberty
12-02-2008, 04:08
Because hes a moron and compares himself to Jesus...



EDIT: My thread!
Ashmoria
12-02-2008, 04:09
he's ignored by the press because he has no campaign, no support, no money, no votes, no delegates.

just declaring yourself a candidate is not enough reason to get any attention from the press.
Sel Appa
12-02-2008, 04:11
There is virtually no mention of this dark-skinned Republican candidate anywhere in the media. He was in only one debate. He's darker than Obama and is a cross between Ron Paul and Mike Huckabee, as I read it. Why has he received basically zero attention? The media should have seized on this and he would stand out like a sore thumb. He's run for president before and got as much as 20% in some primaries.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alan_Keyes
Free Soviets
12-02-2008, 04:14
heh, alan keyes. his shining moment was jumping into ratm's mosh pit in 2000. or maybe when he kicked his lesbian anarchist daughter out of the house.


http://kfmonkey.blogspot.com/2005/10/lunch-discussions-145-crazification.html
John: Hey, Bush is now at 37% approval. I feel much less like Kevin McCarthy screaming in traffic. But I wonder what his base is --

Tyrone: 27%.

John: ... you said that immmediately, and with some authority.

Tyrone: Obama vs. Alan Keyes. Keyes was from out of state, so you can eliminate any established political base; both candidates were black, so you can factor out racism; and Keyes was plainly, obviously, completely crazy. Batshit crazy. Head-trauma crazy. But 27% of the population of Illinois voted for him. They put party identification, personal prejudice, whatever ahead of rational judgement. Hell, even like 5% of Democrats voted for him. That's crazy behaviour. I think you have to assume a 27% Crazification Factor in any population.

John: Objectively crazy or crazy vis-a-vis my own inertial reference frame for rational behaviour? I mean, are you creating the Theory of Special Crazification or General Crazification?

Tyrone: Hadn't thought about it. Let's split the difference. Half just have worldviews which lead them to disagree with what you consider rationality even though they arrive at their positions through rational means, and the other half are the core of the Crazification -- either genuinely crazy; or so woefully misinformed about how the world works, the bases for their decision making is so flawed they may as well be crazy.

John: You realize this leads to there being over 30 million crazy people in the US?

Tyrone: Does that seem wrong?

John: ... a bit low, actually.

Tyrone: (shrugs) Probably right, then. Speaking of Obama, I need to get t-shirts printed up to sell.

John: I can do that on the web. What do they say?

Tyrone: Don't You Dare Kill Obama

John: How about Don't You Dare Kill Obama (... and we know you're thinking about it)

Tyrone: Niiiiice.

John: Or You Kill Obama and WE WILL BURN SHIT DOWN

Tyrone: Even better. Nobody wants their shit burned down.

John: Glad to help.

Tyrone: I'm having you taken off the list for when the revolution comes.

John: ... there's really a list --

Tyrone: Oh yeah. Hell yeah.
Andaras
12-02-2008, 04:16
Lol, thought you meant the economist for a second...


Anyways, black Republicans for me chime like the old 'useful Jew'....
Khadgar
12-02-2008, 04:27
There is virtually no mention of this dark-skinned Republican candidate anywhere in the media. He was in only one debate. He's darker than Obama and is a cross between Ron Paul and Mike Huckabee, as I read it. Why has he received basically zero attention? The media should have seized on this and he would stand out like a sore thumb. He's run for president before and got as much as 20% in some primaries.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alan_Keyes

Because he's horrifying?
Lunatic Goofballs
12-02-2008, 04:30
http://www.peteykins.com/sparklepony/KeyesSewer.jpg

"Did someone say my name?"
Khadgar
12-02-2008, 04:40
http://www.peteykins.com/sparklepony/KeyesSewer.jpg

"Did someone say my name?"

He's a ninja turtle?
Lunatic Goofballs
12-02-2008, 04:45
He's a ninja turtle?

Guess again. ;)
Lunatic Goofballs
12-02-2008, 04:51
Mr. Hanky on steroids?

You're getting warmer. ;)
Khadgar
12-02-2008, 04:56
Guess again. ;)

Mr. Hanky on steroids?
Straughn
12-02-2008, 05:49
Was that him on the Saget movie, "Fuck"?
If so, good for him being out. The guy has a dangerous mentality and deserves no more attention than Phelps.
Maraque
12-02-2008, 07:46
Alan Keyes is a bitch.
Straughn
12-02-2008, 07:50
Mr. Hanky on steroids?

And an only slightly more melodic voice!
Andaras
12-02-2008, 08:42
Lol, I looked up this guy, and I want those 2 minutes back!

'having sex for pleasure is sinful!'
New Ziedrich
12-02-2008, 09:08
a cross between Ron Paul and Mike Huckabee

This pretty much makes him a loser.

He's darker than Obama

This is entirely irrelevant.
Gigantic Leprechauns
12-02-2008, 09:11
I don't care who he is, I'm still voting for LG.
New Ziedrich
12-02-2008, 09:19
No it isn't. Colour is definitely an issue in this election.
Should not be - but confusing reality with things that "should be" is something for the religious folks ;)

Yeah, I forgot. :)
The Alma Mater
12-02-2008, 09:21
This is entirely irrelevant.

No it isn't. Colour is definitely an issue in this election.
Should not be - but confusing reality with things that "should be" is something for the religious folks ;)
Andaras
12-02-2008, 09:26
No it isn't. Colour is definitely an issue in this election.
Should not be - but confusing reality with things that "should be" is something for the religious folks ;)
I have to disagree, I don't America is that backward, I am sure the average American voter would not seriously think to themselves 'I am/not going to vote for candidate X because he/she is colored'... Can you honestly say that a majority (or a big segment) of the US electorate actually would vote based on skin color?
The Alma Mater
12-02-2008, 09:37
I have to disagree, I don't America is that backward, I am sure the average American voter would not seriously think to themselves 'I am/not going to vote for candidate X because he/she is colored'... Can you honestly say that a majority (or a big segment) of the US electorate actually would vote based on skin color?

In the primaries Obama got a lot of the black votes. Coincidence ?
It works both ways.

And when looking at the programs of most presidential candidates I feel very justified in saying the USA is backwards.
Hocolesqua
12-02-2008, 09:42
In the primaries Obama got a lot of the black votes. Coincidence ?
It works both ways.


Yeah, apparently it works in Idaho, which Obama won, home of white separatism. And other heavily African American states like Kansas, Nebraska, Iowa, Minnesota and North Dakota.
Andaras
12-02-2008, 09:42
In the primaries Obama got a lot of the black votes. Coincidence ?
It works both ways.

I think that is culture and some degree of collective life experience that those in that community have, and that Obama can channel that fact. I realize that this ethnicity if you will is itself a group, but I would hold that they are a coherent community because of a consistent (with exceptions) material life experience, upbringing etc etc. Skin color itself I don't believe is valid.

Of course, by itself, psychological make-up or, as it is otherwise called, "national character," is something intangible for the observer, but in so far as it manifests itself in a distinctive culture common to the nation it is something tangible and cannot be ignored.

And when looking at the programs of most presidential candidates I feel very justified in saying the USA is backwards.

I think more than anything that the US is prone to be manipulated by demagoguery and political hysteria.
Turquoise Days
12-02-2008, 09:49
heh, alan keyes. his shining moment was jumping into ratm's mosh pit in 2000. or maybe when he kicked his lesbian anarchist daughter out of the house.


http://kfmonkey.blogspot.com/2005/10/lunch-discussions-145-crazification.html

And I have a new favourite blog!

EDIT: I totally didn't realise that was 3 years old. Creepy, huh?
Yootopia
12-02-2008, 10:29
Hahaha no.
Laerod
12-02-2008, 10:49
What about Ron Paul?
Yootopia
12-02-2008, 10:52
What about Ron Paul?
See my above answer.
Dyakovo
12-02-2008, 17:20
'I am/not going to vote for candidate X because he/she is colored'...

Unfortunately I do know someone who thinks like that... :(:headbang:
Law Abiding Criminals
12-02-2008, 17:49
Lol, I looked up this guy, and I want those 2 minutes back!

'having sex for pleasure is sinful!'

I looked him up as well and couldn't find where he said that. Yes, he's a whack job, but I didn't catch that.

As for why Keyes will never be President? He's a black Republican. The Republican base won't go for it.
The Alma Mater
12-02-2008, 17:51
I looked him up as well and couldn't find where he said that. Yes, he's a whack job, but I didn't catch that.

It is part of his excuse to hate homosexuals.
East Rodan
12-02-2008, 18:20
My Pa voted for him in the primary. I don't know why, and he refuses to tell me.
Free Soviets
12-02-2008, 18:28
My Pa voted for him in the primary. I don't know why, and he refuses to tell me.

see my earlier post for answers
Sel Appa
13-02-2008, 02:57
This is entirely irrelevant.
Not to the media. They say Obama would be the first black/AA president. If you really want to divide people up like that, he's only half.

It's satire of the classification. I use the word dark-skinned/light-skinned instead of black/white because it is more correct and shows that it means absolutely nothing.
Free Soviets
13-02-2008, 03:02
Not to the media. They say Obama would be the first black/AA president.

wtf?
Dyakovo
13-02-2008, 16:28
wtf?

Affirmative Action, probably
*shrug*
Intangelon
13-02-2008, 16:37
Was that him on the Saget movie, "Fuck"?If so, good for him being out. The guy has a dangerous mentality and deserves no more attention than Phelps.

Yes it was. Good documentary, btw.
Free Soviets
13-02-2008, 16:44
Affirmative Action, probably
*shrug*

yeah, which raises some rather serious questions as to what nazi 'media' sel pays attention to.
Levee en masse
13-02-2008, 17:10
Affirmative Action, probably
*shrug*

Or "African American"

but meh
Sel Appa
14-02-2008, 01:32
Or "African American"

but meh

Aye.
Honsria
14-02-2008, 02:22
he's more of a joke than ron paul politically. umm much more.
Knights of Liberty
14-02-2008, 03:45
In 2004 for the Illinois Senate seat ... and got his ass handed to him.
Obama: 70%
Keyes: 27%

Regarding the post about the Republican base not going for a black Republican (don't remember who posted it) - I actually disagree with you, as I think you've got it backwards. I think that it is far more likely that the first black president will come from the Republican ranks than from the Democrats b/c I think that "Middle America" will support a conservative black candidate but not a liberal black candidate. But I could be wrong...



Considering Obama's poised to win in November and the polls show he as of right now will, Id say you indeed are wrong.
Chowda25
14-02-2008, 03:49
In 2004 for the Illinois Senate seat ... and got his ass handed to him.
Obama: 70%
Keyes: 27%

Regarding the post about the Republican base not going for a black Republican (don't remember who posted it) - I actually disagree with you, as I think you've got it backwards. I think that it is far more likely that the first black president will come from the Republican ranks than from the Democrats b/c I think that "Middle America" will support a conservative black candidate but not a liberal black candidate. But I could be wrong...
Straughn
14-02-2008, 09:11
Yes it was. Good documentary, btw.

BOONE!!!!!!!!!
Chowda25
14-02-2008, 14:24
Considering Obama's poised to win in November and the polls show he as of right now will, Id say you indeed are wrong.

Perhaps you're thinking of the Democratic primary rather than the general election?

Obama is far too inexperienced in national politics for the nation to elect him in a general election. He's a first-term senator who has sponsored no bills of any importance. In addition, he was recently recognized as the most liberal senator for 2007 (see: http://nj.nationaljournal.com/voteratings/), something that has not been mentioned at all in the press, but something that you can be sure will be brought up by McCain.

That's not going to get him elected in a general election, either, no matter what color his skin is.
Intangelon
14-02-2008, 21:50
BOONE!!!!!!!!!

LOL!

Abso-BOONE-lutely!

(Doesn't have the same *oomph*, does it?)
Cicilions
14-02-2008, 22:02
In 2004 for the Illinois Senate seat ... and got his ass handed to him.
Obama: 70%
Keyes: 27%

Regarding the post about the Republican base not going for a black Republican (don't remember who posted it) - I actually disagree with you, as I think you've got it backwards. I think that it is far more likely that the first black president will come from the Republican ranks than from the Democrats b/c I think that "Middle America" will support a conservative black candidate but not a liberal black candidate. But I could be wrong...


I'd vote Condi Rice over Keyes or Obama.

I'm white and republican btw. ( and middle class if you need that info too)
Sel Appa
14-02-2008, 23:34
In 2004 for the Illinois Senate seat ... and got his ass handed to him.
Obama: 70%
Keyes: 27%

Regarding the post about the Republican base not going for a black Republican (don't remember who posted it) - I actually disagree with you, as I think you've got it backwards. I think that it is far more likely that the first black president will come from the Republican ranks than from the Democrats b/c I think that "Middle America" will support a conservative black candidate but not a liberal black candidate. But I could be wrong...

You forget that racists are overwhelmingly Republican, so this is technically impossible. This isn't the 1870s.

Perhaps you're thinking of the Democratic primary rather than the general election?

Obama is far too inexperienced in national politics for the nation to elect him in a general election. He's a first-term senator who has sponsored no bills of any importance. In addition, he was recently recognized as the most liberal senator for 2007 (see: http://nj.nationaljournal.com/voteratings/), something that has not been mentioned at all in the press, but something that you can be sure will be brought up by McCain.

That's not going to get him elected in a general election, either, no matter what color his skin is.
If that was really a problem, he wouldn't be doing nearly this well. People say all this about experience, but George Washington had ZERO experience. And we've seen what experience has done for the past few decades. I think the conventional liberal/conservative spectrum is highly misrepresntative and incorrect. It has been shown that there is at least a two-dimensional spectrum, if not three or more. In fact, there may not really be a spectrum at all, and just clusters of ideas that are related. Obama has appeal to everyone despite being described as quite liberal. People are tired of the politics that exist now. We've seen recent oustings everywhere and recently. Obama will win the primary and he will win the election. With at least 300 electoral votes.
Andaras
15-02-2008, 00:53
I'd vote Condi Rice over Keyes or Obama.

I'm white and republican btw. ( and middle class if you need that info too)
African-Americans like Condi or Keyes are the ultimate 'useful Jews'.
Knights of Liberty
15-02-2008, 01:03
Perhaps you're thinking of the Democratic primary rather than the general election?


Nope, check the polls. hes ahead of McCain if the election was held today.
Straughn
15-02-2008, 05:01
I'd vote Condi Rice
52. Disgraceful.
Straughn
15-02-2008, 05:04
LOL!

Abso-BOONE-lutely!

(Doesn't have the same *oomph*, does it?)
If you included a pic or two, perhaps? :D
http://www.skypoint.com/members/schutz19/booneg.gif
http://www.dio.net/pictures_cd/pat_boone_in_a_metal_mood_front_big.jpg
http://www.gasolinealleyantiques.com/celebrity/images/Rock/pin-patboone.JPG