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Leave Ron Paul Alone!!!!

Trotskylvania
11-02-2008, 04:54
And how fricking dare anyone out there make fun of Ron Paul after all he's been through! He loves a America and the Constituion and went through a hard campaign! He had fricking great ideas, he was going to save America, and now he has to bear the bitter sting of defeat!

All you people care about is "evidence" and "racism allegations"...he's a human!!!

What you don't realize is that Ron Paul is doing all this for you and all you do is write a bunch of crap about him! America has been going downhill for years and all you people want is more MORE MOAR!!! Leave him alone! You're lucky he even ran for you! Leave Ron Paul alone...please!

Obviously inspired by Chris Crocker's infamous "Leave Britney Alone" rant. I thought it would be fitting. Smilies fixed for you viewing pleasure
:mad: :headbang: :mp5: :sniper: :upyours: :gundge:
Gigantic Leprechauns
11-02-2008, 04:57
If only you had remembered the :upyours: and :gundge: smileys, this would have been perfect.

;)
Bann-ed
11-02-2008, 04:57
I don't know, I would vote for him.
Dyakovo
11-02-2008, 04:59
And how fricking dare anyone out there make fun of Ron Paul after all he's been through! He loves a America and the Constituion and went through a hard campaign! He had fricking great ideas, he was going to save America...
LOL
Dyakovo
11-02-2008, 05:00
I don't know, I would vote for him.

Why? You seem at least fairly intelligent?
Neo Art
11-02-2008, 05:01
http://i4.photobucket.com/albums/y120/joeyblue/britney.jpg

Leave Ron alone!
Pugonia
11-02-2008, 05:01
This reminds me...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x_hzxBN2O08
Delajari
11-02-2008, 05:02
did no one catch the cris crocker/britney spears reference...

ahaha that was funny
Gigantic Leprechauns
11-02-2008, 05:02
http://i4.photobucket.com/albums/y120/joeyblue/britney.jpg

Leave Ron alone!

lmao
Barringtonia
11-02-2008, 05:03
Okay but let me finish this very last wedgie and we'll be done.

*initiates super-atomic 4-story wedgie sequence*
Bann-ed
11-02-2008, 05:05
Why? You seem at least fairly intelligent?

Racist or not, the president doesn't have the power to go around hanging people.. and I agree with most of his stances on issues.
Trotskylvania
11-02-2008, 05:05
If only you had remembered the :upyours: and :gundge: smileys, this would have been perfect.

;)

Smilies fixed for your viewing pleasure
Gigantic Leprechauns
11-02-2008, 05:06
Smilies fixed for your viewing pleasure

Hooray! :)

I hereby give you another batch of star-shaped cookies with red icing, good sir. :p
Trotskylvania
11-02-2008, 05:07
Hooray! :)

I hereby give you another batch of star-shaped cookies with red icing, good sir. :p

Sweet! *nom nom nom*
Dyakovo
11-02-2008, 05:10
Racist or not, the president doesn't have the power to go around hanging people.. and I agree with most of his stances on issues.

Do you agree with his solutions?
Bann-ed
11-02-2008, 05:12
Do you agree with his solutions?

To the war in Iraq, economy, what?
Gigantic Leprechauns
11-02-2008, 05:12
Racist or not, the president doesn't have the power to go around hanging people.. and I agree with most of his stances on issues.

I won't lie, I agree with him on economic issues and foreign policy...but on social issues? No way.
Dyakovo
11-02-2008, 05:14
To the war in Iraq, economy, what?

Economy
Bann-ed
11-02-2008, 05:16
I won't lie, I agree with him on economic issues and foreign policy...but on social issues? No way.

This will probably paint me in an asshole-ish light, but since I would not be the person affected by the stances on social issues, the economic and foreign policy issues are the ones that really matter to me. However, I believe the social issues will be solved with or without the President's support, so it isn't the end of the world.
Bann-ed
11-02-2008, 05:18
Economy

Yes. While it may not be entirely feasible to return to the gold standard, making strides in that direction could do a world of good. Also, cutting massive spending in many areas of government is never bad and if lowering taxes works because of the cuts in spending, I'm all for it.
Dyakovo
11-02-2008, 05:20
Yes. While it isn't at all entirely feasible to return to the gold standard, making strides in that direction would be pointless. Also, cutting massive spending in many areas of government is never bad and if lowering taxes works because of the cuts in spending, I'm all for it.

fixed
Amor Pulchritudo
11-02-2008, 05:22
[QUOTE=Trotskylvania;13440053]And how fricking dare anyone out there make fun of Ron Paul after all he's been through! He loves a America and the Constituion and went through a hard campaign! He had fricking great ideas, he was going to save America, and now he has to bear the bitter sting of defeat!

All you people care about is "evidence" and "racism allegations"...he's a human!!!

What you don't realize is that Ron Paul is doing all this for you and all you do is write a bunch of crap about him! America has been going downhill for years and all you people want is more MORE MOAR!!! Leave him alone! You're lucky he even ran for you! Leave Ron Paul alone...please!

Obviously inspired by Chris Crocker's infamous "Leave Britney Alone" rant. I thought it would be fitting. Smilies fixed for you viewing pleasure
*snip*

You fail.
"Leave Britney Alone" was much much better.

I leave you with an array of annoying emoticons.

:rolleyes::p:confused::fluffle::);):cool:
Bann-ed
11-02-2008, 05:24
fixed

Well, I may not be knowledgeable in the realm of economics, but if what you just fixed is true... it only shows how massively screwed the United States economy is. :(
Trotskylvania
11-02-2008, 05:46
You fail.
"Leave Britney Alone" was much much better.

I leave you with an array of annoying emoticons.

:rolleyes::p:confused::fluffle::);):cool:

Whatever. Perhaps I struck too close to home?
Gigantic Leprechauns
11-02-2008, 05:50
The gold standard was abandoned partly due to its utter inability to deal with the economic reality of the Great Depression.

No. It was abandoned so the government could spend as much as it wanted, on whatever it wanted, whenever it wanted, without raising taxes.

It's hardly coincidental that the world economy has performed far better and far more stably in the era of fiat money than when it was ruled by the gold standard.

And the U.S. dollar is now worth only a tiny fraction of what it was then.
Bann-ed
11-02-2008, 05:52
The gold standard was abandoned partly due to its utter inability to deal with the economic reality of the Great Depression. It's hardly coincidental that the world economy has performed far better and far more stably in the era of fiat money than when it was ruled by the gold standard.

That's only the case if the gold standard is actually a good idea. Which, for the record, it isn't.

Guess I should have bolded "I may not be knowledgeable in the realm of economics" and been more affirmative about it.
Vetalia
11-02-2008, 05:53
Well, I may not be knowledgeable in the realm of economics, but if what you just fixed is true... it only shows how massively screwed the United States economy is. :(

The gold standard was abandoned partly due to its utter inability to deal with the economic reality of the Great Depression. It's hardly coincidental that the world economy has performed far better and far more stably in the era of fiat money than when it was ruled by the gold standard.
Bann-ed
11-02-2008, 05:53
No. It was abandoned so the government could spend as much as it wanted, on whatever it wanted, whenever it wanted, without raising taxes.

And the U.S. dollar is now worth only a tiny fraction of what it was then.

Didn't Ron Paul say that?
CthulhuFhtagn
11-02-2008, 05:54
Well, I may not be knowledgeable in the realm of economics, but if what you just fixed is true... it only shows how massively screwed the United States economy is. :(

That's only the case if the gold standard is actually a good idea. Which, for the record, it isn't.
Multiple Use Suburbia
11-02-2008, 07:22
I dont get the Brit Spears thing.... :confused:

I do get the Ron Paul thing... Get the government of the U.S. back to following its own laws and principles. :)

http://www.ontheissues.org/2008/Ron_Paul_Civil_Rights.htm

http://www.ontheissues.org/2008/Ron_Paul_Budget_+_Economy.htm

http://www.ontheissues.org/2008/Ron_Paul_Principles_+_Values.htm
Glorious Freedonia
11-02-2008, 20:45
And how fricking dare anyone out there make fun of Ron Paul after all he's been through! He loves a America and the Constituion and went through a hard campaign! He had fricking great ideas, he was going to save America, and now he has to bear the bitter sting of defeat!

All you people care about is "evidence" and "racism allegations"...he's a human!!!

What you don't realize is that Ron Paul is doing all this for you and all you do is write a bunch of crap about him! America has been going downhill for years and all you people want is more MORE MOAR!!! Leave him alone! You're lucky he even ran for you! Leave Ron Paul alone...please!

Obviously inspired by Chris Crocker's infamous "Leave Britney Alone" rant. I thought it would be fitting. Smilies fixed for you viewing pleasure
:mad: :headbang: :mp5: :sniper: :upyours: :gundge:

Hmmmm doesn't Ron Paul support the idea of surrendering the war? Yeah, that would be great for America. He is nothing but a seditionist.
Gigantic Leprechauns
11-02-2008, 20:47
Hmmmm doesn't Ron Paul support the idea of surrendering the war? Yeah, that would be great for America. He is nothing but a seditionist.

Withdrawing from a war we never should have started =/= surrender
Dyakovo
11-02-2008, 20:50
Withdrawing from a war we never should have started =/= surrender

Plus, according to Dubya, we already won, so how can we possibly surrender?
B en H
11-02-2008, 20:51
Do you agree with his solutions?

His Endsolution?:confused:
Dyakovo
11-02-2008, 20:53
His Endsolution?:confused:

i.e. part of the fix for the economy is to abolish the Federal Reserve and the IRS
Gigantic Leprechauns
11-02-2008, 20:55
Plus, according to Dubya, we already won, so how can we possibly surrender?

http://z.about.com/d/uspolitics/1/0/m/C/mission_accomplished.jpg

(Sorry, couldn't resist. :D)
CthulhuFhtagn
11-02-2008, 21:10
I dont get the Brit Spears thing.... :confused:

I do get the Ron Paul thing... Get the government of the U.S. back to following its own laws and principles. :)

http://www.ontheissues.org/2008/Ron_Paul_Civil_Rights.htm

http://www.ontheissues.org/2008/Ron_Paul_Budget_+_Economy.htm

http://www.ontheissues.org/2008/Ron_Paul_Principles_+_Values.htm

Ignoring the 1st, 9th, and 14th Amendments is hardly getting the government back to following its own laws and principles.
CthulhuFhtagn
11-02-2008, 21:18
i.e. part of the fix for the economy is to abolish the Federal Reserve and the IRS

Also making all of our money completely worthless without replacing it with anything.
Telesha
11-02-2008, 21:31
Also making all of our money completely worthless without replacing it with anything.

No, he'll allow the states to print their own tender. Federal bills will only be negotiable concerning federal debts.

So in one fell swoop, he'll bankrupt every citizen of the U.S. and severely fuck up intrastate trade.
The Black Forrest
11-02-2008, 22:04
Never trust anybody with two first names!
Trotskylvania
11-02-2008, 22:19
Never trust anybody with two first names!

Indeed.
Trotskylvania
11-02-2008, 22:25
Nice Chris Crocker impression. :)

*bows*

I might make a youtube vid of it. It could be funny.
Telesha
11-02-2008, 22:26
Nope. Check the Honest Money Act.

I was referring to this (http://thomas.loc.gov/cgi-bin/bdquery/z?d096:h.r.3931:)
CthulhuFhtagn
11-02-2008, 22:26
No, he'll allow the states to print their own tender. Federal bills will only be negotiable concerning federal debts.

Nope. Check the Honest Money Act.
The Pike Dynasty
11-02-2008, 22:30
Nice Chris Crocker impression. :)
Dempublicents1
11-02-2008, 22:39
*bows*

I might make a youtube vid of it. It could be funny.

Do it! Your fans demand it!
Trotskylvania
11-02-2008, 22:44
Do it! Your fans demand it!

K. I just need to get a camera first.
Tmutarakhan
12-02-2008, 01:11
http://z.about.com/d/uspolitics/1/0/m/C/mission_accomplished.jpg

(Sorry, couldn't resist. :D)
Reminds me of Senator Aiken's plan for Vietnam: "We should just declare victory, and get out." Unfortunately, W forgot the second half of the plan...
Naturality
12-02-2008, 01:21
I know this thread was intended to start a fire but I will say .. I do agree with some of Pauls stances. I also agreed with some of Kucinich and others views. Kucinich and others are nowhere to be found.

I knew from the bg Paul didn't stand a chance. Some are delighted by this.. I am however discouraged. It shows me that anyone who doesn't tow the line really has no chance. But any who...

As of today, and well .. for a good while .. I hope Obama gets it. But actually I don't see that happening.. either. Not because of the people, but because how things are ran. I'm not sure though.
Dempublicents1
12-02-2008, 17:38
I knew from the bg Paul didn't stand a chance. Some are delighted by this.. I am however discouraged. It shows me that anyone who doesn't tow the line really has no chance. But any who...

I don't think it shows that at all. I think it shows that people are able to actually read up on a candidate for themselves and recognize that the propaganda isn't all it's made out to be. A candidate can talk liberty all he wants, but if his record doesn't bear it out....

In truth, I find it very encouraging that most people didn't buy into the propaganda.
Jello Biafra
12-02-2008, 18:55
*bows*

I might make a youtube vid of it. It could be funny.Indeed.
<In Ben Stiller voice> Do it.
Bottle
12-02-2008, 18:56
I don't think it shows that at all. I think it shows that people are able to actually read up on a candidate for themselves and recognize that the propaganda isn't all it's made out to be. A candidate can talk liberty all he wants, but if his record doesn't bear it out....

In truth, I find it very encouraging that most people didn't buy into the propaganda.
This.
Dyakovo
12-02-2008, 18:56
<In Ben Stiller voice>

*shoots Jello's voice *
Jello Biafra
12-02-2008, 18:58
*shoots Jello's voice *:o
*signing* What's wrong with Ben Stiller's voice?
Jello Biafra
12-02-2008, 19:16
If you know where I can find a cheap digital video camera, then I'll get right on it.;) Redistribute one.
Trotskylvania
12-02-2008, 19:19
Indeed.
<In Ben Stiller voice> Do it.

If you know where I can find a cheap digital video camera, then I'll get right on it.
Trotskylvania
12-02-2008, 20:08
;) Redistribute one.

Let no angry college student stop the march of the glorious revolution! Expropriate the...er...expropriate, well, the Camera!
Dyakovo
12-02-2008, 20:12
:o
*signing* What's wrong with Ben Stiller's voice?

It just annoys the crap out of me.
Rotten bacon
12-02-2008, 21:41
Indeed.
<In Ben Stiller voice> Do it.

umm thats not ben stiller
Naturality
05-03-2008, 06:34
I don't think it shows that at all. I think it shows that people are able to actually read up on a candidate for themselves and recognize that the propaganda isn't all it's made out to be. A candidate can talk liberty all he wants, but if his record doesn't bear it out....

In truth, I find it very encouraging that most people didn't buy into the propaganda.

I understand what you are saying.

As for the propaganda bit .. well I consider those who the get the most air play in big media as being much more fitting into the propaganda suit than those who we never hear shit about. Remember Paul was only denounced on American airwaves. I don't give a flip what was done here on the inter tubes. This isn't reality.. as much as many of us like to think it is. There are more people who do not seek out or see this internet for its ... news .. information or opinion .. whatever ... than those that do.

That was my point. I'm voting for Hillary or Obama. Not in stone which .. yet.

I apologize to all for grave digging.. I just needed to voice that.
Dempublicents1
05-03-2008, 20:08
I understand what you are saying.

As for the propaganda bit .. well I consider those who the get the most air play in big media as being much more fitting into the propaganda suit than those who we never hear shit about.

Propaganda has more to do with substance than quantity. The stuff that Ron Paul put out was pure propaganda. It had no substance and it didn't match up with reality, but it sounded nice. That's propaganda.
The Parkus Empire
05-03-2008, 20:16
And how fricking dare anyone out there make fun of Ron Paul after all he's been through! He loves a America and the Constituion and went through a hard campaign! He had fricking great ideas, he was going to save America, and now he has to bear the bitter sting of defeat!

All you people care about is "evidence" and "racism allegations"...he's a human!!!

What you don't realize is that Ron Paul is doing all this for you and all you do is write a bunch of crap about him! America has been going downhill for years and all you people want is more MORE MOAR!!! Leave him alone! You're lucky he even ran for you! Leave Ron Paul alone...please!

Obviously inspired by Chris Crocker's infamous "Leave Britney Alone" rant. I thought it would be fitting. Smilies fixed for you viewing pleasure
:mad: :headbang: :mp5: :sniper: :upyours: :gundge:

You are so cute, Trotskylvania.
Flaming Butt Pirate
05-03-2008, 20:31
Who's Ron Paul?
[NS]RhynoDD
05-03-2008, 20:31
Let's go bother Ron Paul!

BOTHER! BOTHER! BOTHER! BOTHER! BOTHER! BOTHER! BOTHER! BOTHER! BOTHER! BOTHER! BOTHER! BOTHER! BOTHER! BOTHER! BOTHER! BOTHER!

I like the part where he stops moving.
Laerod
05-03-2008, 21:01
Propaganda has more to do with substance than quantity. The stuff that Ron Paul put out was pure propaganda. It had no substance and it didn't match up with reality, but it sounded nice. That's propaganda.Propaganda's actually a really neutral term. It's how it's used and how truthful it is that makes it bad or good.
Dempublicents1
05-03-2008, 21:12
Propaganda's actually a really neutral term. It's how it's used and how truthful it is that makes it bad or good.

Maybe, but I think most people (including myself) put an unfavorable connotation on it.
Laerod
05-03-2008, 21:20
Maybe, but I think most people (including myself) put an unfavorable connotation on it.Yup. But you shouldn't let that piece of propaganda misguide you!

Leave propaganda alone! :D
Hurdegaryp
06-03-2008, 03:31
He had fricking great ideas, he was going to save America, and now he has to bear the bitter sting of defeat!


That's so sad! But wait a second... isn't Ron Paul some kind of compassionate conservative with strong national-libertarian leanings? Hell, that's even a bit too crazy for the average US voter, and we can all agree that beforementioned US voter is familiar with quite a shitload of insanity when it comes to the politics of his or her nation.
Naturality
08-03-2008, 11:29
Propaganda has more to do with substance than quantity. The stuff that Ron Paul put out was pure propaganda. It had no substance and it didn't match up with reality, but it sounded nice. That's propaganda.

Did it sound nice? No. To most people it was complete bullshit..... Taken off the jump it was batshit insane. Especially the part about getting rid of the IRS. How could anyone think of such a thing. (Not that I believe it would EVER happen) Let me tell you. I believe he was going to do all he said he was going to do .. the same as I believe any other politician is going to do all they say they are .. (NOT). Even IF he honestly really wanted that .. there's no way in hell that would happen.


Election day comes and I know politicians are thieving liars.. I still gotta pick what I'm given to choose from.

(Hell at this point I got a major conspiracy theory going through my mind.. as to why he was in the running in the first place.. at the same time we have a woman and a black man. Maybe it's the cosmos. Big change!)




I consider general propaganda as something being pumped in to your head (all around -- all the time -- nonchalant -- drip drip).. sometimes it will create or use a factor(s) (War on Terror as an example) .. using dis information or straight out balled faced lies .. playing on unintentional ignorance.

Indirect propaganda.. or inner propaganda. We do it ourselves. Fear of our own. The tone is set in every direction .. and people follow.. and anyone that steps outside that line is bashed by their own. Do you understand what I'm saying?

Ron Paul, Obama, Hillary or whoever .. we are willing to accept that they are all thieves and liars. And just do the ... so and so isn't as bad as so and so.

All of em are crooked. None of them have 'we the people' in their best interest. We pay their fucking salaries. I watched Giuliani a while back on C Span campaigning. He said something about being the president OVER us. I caught it .. seemed like no one in the crowd did. I also didn't see any blog reports about what he said or youtube vids. It's suppose to be FOR us.

And when did we vote on the Iraq war? Don't give me that GW Bush shit. What the hell do WE (US the people) actually get a vote on that stands? Seems to me .. NOTHING.


I'm pissed. bah.
Tongass
08-03-2008, 11:37
Propaganda has more to do with substance than quantity. The stuff that Ron Paul put out was pure propaganda. It had no substance and it didn't match up with reality, but it sounded nice. That's propaganda.Does it still qualify as propaganda if the propagator (Ron Paul) buys into it too?
Naturality
08-03-2008, 11:47
Government is suppose to go from the bottom up .. not the top down and that's exactly what it is. Probably every where.
Laerod
08-03-2008, 11:50
Does it still qualify as propaganda if the propagator (Ron Paul) buys into it too?Yes.
SaintB
08-03-2008, 13:05
Better than John Mckain bot...


McSame: I support George Bush and all his policies.

Rice: What?

McSame: I support George Bush and all his policies.

Bush: I think its working!

McSame: I support George Bush and all his policies.

Cheney: One final time, what is your primary function?

McSame: I support George Bush and all his... policies...

Rice: I think he's starting to resist his core programming!

McSame: Logic circuit overloading... I support... support... support... support... support... *head explodes*

George: Wow! Did you see that?

Cheney: Is Ron Paul Prepped for surgery?
Maineiacs
08-03-2008, 14:22
I was referring to this (http://thomas.loc.gov/cgi-bin/bdquery/z?d096:h.r.3931:)

That loon actually wants to have 50 different currencies? In the words of Eutrusca, WTF, over?:headbang:
New Granada
10-03-2008, 11:02
Ron Paul is the only candidate who will stand up for TROOF and golden nuggets.

His gold buggery is america's last best hope.

Also, he is the Dog Catcher of Hale Bopp and has won all internet polls.

RLOVEUTION!