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Women + Weights

Amor Pulchritudo
11-02-2008, 01:19
So many women (and men) think that if a woman does weights, she will bulk up and become the incredible hulk. However, free weights (and weight machines) are very useful in toning and contouring the body. Women do not have enough testosterone to bulk up, unless they're weight training every day, with very heavy weights, taking steroids and consuming well over the amount of protien they should. So...

What do you think of women doing weights?
Dyakovo
11-02-2008, 01:24
What do you think of women doing weights?

I see no problem with it.
Sirmomo1
11-02-2008, 01:41
I think it's the end of the world.
Call to power
11-02-2008, 01:43
incredibly sexy I would say though having a woman completely shattered isn't so fun

really I don't care :p
Tongass
11-02-2008, 01:44
I think this thread is useless without pictures.
Dyakovo
11-02-2008, 01:45
I think it's the end of the world.

Why? Are you afraid the girl might be stronger than you?
Bann-ed
11-02-2008, 01:45
I think it's a bad thing.
How long could we(men) keep women under the heel of our boots if they all start working out while we sit on the couch and watch boring sports programmes?
Call to power
11-02-2008, 01:53
I think it's a bad thing.
How long could we(men) keep women under the heel of our boots if they all start working out while we sit on the couch and watch boring sports programmes.

next they will start driving lessons! :eek:
Dyakovo
11-02-2008, 01:55
next they will start driving lessons! :eek:

I don't care if they work out, but they better not start driving :p
Bann-ed
11-02-2008, 01:55
next they will start driving lessons! :eek:

They're more dangerous without driving lessons.
1010102
11-02-2008, 01:56
next they will start driving lessons! :eek:

Our roads will be safer for it though...:;)
New Drakonia
11-02-2008, 02:05
Ban it! :mad:
Demented Hamsters
11-02-2008, 03:59
What do you think of women doing weights?
fine, as long as they're wearing really small, form-fititng lycra clothing whilst doing so.



mmmm....on second thought, maybe not. I'd be dead soon after from dropping a heavy weight on a vital part of meself while distracted
Ashmoria
11-02-2008, 04:36
its a very good idea. its good for your looks, your strength, your metabolism, your bone strength, your general well being.
Bann-ed
11-02-2008, 04:37
its a very good idea. its good for your looks, your strength, your metabolism, your bone strength, your general well being.

I believe you base your argument on a faulty premise: That women were placed on this Earth by God to help themselves.
VietnamSounds
11-02-2008, 04:39
I am a woman, and I don't do weights any more but I try to stay in shape. Maybe I can delay death if I keep it up.
Hayteria
12-02-2008, 14:28
So many women (and men) think that if a woman does weights, she will bulk up and become the incredible hulk. However, free weights (and weight machines) are very useful in toning and contouring the body. Women do not have enough testosterone to bulk up, unless they're weight training every day, with very heavy weights, taking steroids and consuming well over the amount of protien they should. So...

What do you think of women doing weights?
How much does it really matter that they won't be bulking up? They're getting exercise, which is usually healthy, so it's good for both genders. That said I'm a guy and I don't lift weights... but I do use these things called "tension straps" that are KINDA like weights; though I don't use them very often...
Extreme Ironing
12-02-2008, 14:38
So many women (and men) think that if a woman does weights, she will bulk up and become the incredible hulk. However, free weights (and weight machines) are very useful in toning and contouring the body. Women do not have enough testosterone to bulk up, unless they're weight training every day, with very heavy weights, taking steroids and consuming well over the amount of protien they should. So...

What do you think of women doing weights?

Similarly with men it's fine and healthy up to a point where it becomes an obsession and repulsive to anyone looking at them.
Laerod
12-02-2008, 14:52
So many women (and men) think that if a woman does weights, she will bulk up and become the incredible hulk.No, that's mainly the ones that do steroids and testosterone that end up looking like that.
PelecanusQuicks
12-02-2008, 15:01
So many women (and men) think that if a woman does weights, she will bulk up and become the incredible hulk. However, free weights (and weight machines) are very useful in toning and contouring the body. Women do not have enough testosterone to bulk up, unless they're weight training every day, with very heavy weights, taking steroids and consuming well over the amount of protien they should. So...

What do you think of women doing weights?

I had a trainer for a year who taught me how to properly use them to avoid bulking up. There are some particular exercises that will bulk you up if that is your goal. I wanted a bigger bust but not bigger arms...it can be done. :cool:

Women and weights....it's a good thing. :p
Laerod
12-02-2008, 15:04
I think it's sexy. That's probably because it gives me the mental image of an attractive woman in tight pants and a sports bra with beads of sweat trickling along her perfect curves.Cold shower time.
Theoretical Physicists
12-02-2008, 15:08
What do you think of women doing weights?

I think it's sexy. That's probably because it gives me the mental image of an attractive woman in tight pants and a sports bra with beads of sweat trickling along her perfect curves.
Law Abiding Criminals
12-02-2008, 17:57
An athletic woman is cool. However, you have to ask just how muscular one would become. If we're talking, say, a sprinter or an aerobics instructor, it's probably nothing. If we're talking Hellga from American Gladiators, it's probably a bit much.
VietnamSounds
12-02-2008, 17:59
I had a trainer for a year who taught me how to properly use them to avoid bulking up. There are some particular exercises that will bulk you up if that is your goal. I wanted a bigger bust but not bigger arms...it can be done. :cool:

Women and weights....it's a good thing. :pWhy are women afraid of bulking up? It's almost impossible. Not even female basketball players look very bulky.
Dyakovo
12-02-2008, 18:01
An athletic woman is cool. However, you have to ask just how muscular one would become. If we're talking, say, a sprinter or an aerobics instructor, it's probably nothing. If we're talking Hellga from American Gladiators, it's probably a bit much.

So this isn't your thing?
http://i171.photobucket.com/albums/u316/dltech07/Misc/ShowLetter5.jpg
Isidoor
12-02-2008, 18:27
Meh, I don't have an opinion on women doing weight lifting. I don't find muscular women attractive, but who am I to say what they should do with their body?
And if they use it just to stay in shape not to become like the woman in the photo, it's probably healthy and attractive, but I still don't see why a woman would need to take my preference for health and aesthetic preferences into account.
Ladamesansmerci
12-02-2008, 18:28
I think it's perfectly fine. Pretty much every member of my (women's only) gym does weights. I never realized it was a source of controversy before...
PelecanusQuicks
12-02-2008, 18:29
Why are women afraid of bulking up? It's almost impossible. Not even female basketball players look very bulky.

Afraid isn't the correct term I think. It is just ugly and most women don't intentionally do things to make themselves ugly. Don't forget women are women's worst critics. Btw I have a cousin who plays basketball professionally in Spain and she is bulked up, so are some of the gals in our fitness center. So yeah they do bulk up....at least more than I want to be. :p
Kura-Pelland
12-02-2008, 18:33
How ironic that I log onto NS after a lecture in Gender and Politics, during which we mention biological determinism and social constructivism, and the first thing I see is this thread.

Anyway.

I'm very much an advocate of weight training for women, and that's proper weight training rather than the laughable compromise shoved down womens' throats (basically: take a weight approximating to zero, do a number of reps approximating to infinity, alternate with the odd sit-up that will MAGICALLY REDUCE YOUR BELLY FAT OH SHIT IT DOESN'T WORK LIKE THAT). Besides being good for their overall health (and far, far too often the missing link within the stereotypical treadmill-hamster's routine) it's even actually rather complementary to many (though maybe not all) aesthetic goals (not least because lean muscle mass => increased metabolism => OMG YAY FAT LOSS).

I'm intrigued what the trainer of PelecanusQuicks had her do - guessing there was a significant role for chest isolation exercises (like flyes) in there?

Edit regarding her post: yes, women tend to be rather picky aesthetes regarding their own bodies (and it's when those perceptions become distorted that you get problems) and generally, their goals are focused with that in mind (it's not right, it's not wrong, but as far as I can tell it is true). It's all subjective, and I can't say I truly understand it; suffice to say, the fears are real, and even if we were to try and change them it'd take an awful lot of time.

It probably comes down, in many cases, to how people want to look in specific shiny garments... which in turn come in too many different styles to make that anything less than an individual affair.
VietnamSounds
12-02-2008, 18:50
I'm just wondering if guys find women like this ugly.

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/f/f3/Three_point_shoot.JPG/598px-Three_point_shoot.JPG

Even if they do, I doubt that athletic women are considered ugly in general because all pop stars are athletic. Look what happened to britney spears when she stopped exercising.
PelecanusQuicks
12-02-2008, 18:50
How ironic that I log onto NS after a lecture in Gender and Politics, during which we mention biological determinism and social constructivism, and the first thing I see is this thread.

Anyway.

I'm very much an advocate of weight training for women, and that's proper weight training rather than the laughable compromise shoved down womens' throats (basically: take a weight approximating to zero, do a number of reps approximating to infinity, alternate with the odd sit-up that will MAGICALLY REDUCE YOUR BELLY FAT OH SHIT IT DOESN'T WORK LIKE THAT). Besides being good for their overall health (and far, far too often the missing link within the stereotypical treadmill-hamster's routine) it's even actually rather complementary to many (though maybe not all) aesthetic goals (not least because lean muscle mass => increased metabolism => OMG YAY FAT LOSS).

I'm intrigued what the trainer of PelecanusQuicks had her do - guessing there was a significant role for chest isolation exercises (like flyes) in there?

I had a rotation of exercises to do daily with both machines and weights. For bust increase it was weights with a focus on not building up the back side of my arms or my back muscles. I'm no expert obviously I don't even know the muscle names or what the exercises are called, I just had a chart and a plan he wrote for me. I did what I was instructed and it worked well. He called all the stuff by name and explained to me all the respiration etc regarding each movement blahdiddy blah. Like I told him, you have the masters degree I have the cash...he asked me my goal in the original interview and I told him I wanted to look good nekkid. Which was meant as a funny, but in about five months I looked pretty good nekkid. :D It was hard work and it meant changing my diet and lifestyle but I never felt better.

I hired a trainer because I have had several surgeries on my abdominal and pelvic region and those muscles have been mutilated. I needed the guidance to not create problems in already problem areas. It was a great experience and I learned a lot about my body (even if I don't remember the proper names of things :p). A good trainer is worth the investment in my opinion.
Kura-Pelland
12-02-2008, 19:06
I'm just wondering if guys find women like this ugly.

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/f/f3/Three_point_shoot.JPG/598px-Three_point_shoot.JPG

Even if they do, I doubt that athletic women are considered ugly in general because all pop stars are athletic. Look what happened to britney spears when she stopped exercising.

I think there is far, far more pluralistic opinion amongst men over what is(n't) aesthetically appealing in a woman than the media might have you believe.

Differing degrees of muscularity is certainly a big area of divide. I can't say myself; I have little sexual attraction to either sex (to the point of considering myself asexual). But I can see the appeal in said basketball players - and also why they could be perhaps seen as ugly, which in that case may actually be subconscious code for 'threatening' perhaps?
Isidoor
12-02-2008, 19:08
I'm just wondering if guys find women like this ugly.

Sorry, women basketball players are way to big.

Even if they do, I doubt that athletic women are considered ugly in general because all pop stars are athletic. Look what happened to britney spears when she stopped exercising.

britney spears never was attractive. And most women men I know find attractive aren't athletic, but healthy and fertile looking.
Call to power
12-02-2008, 19:20
Sorry, women basketball players are way to big.

:eek: tall-o-phobe! *puts all your clothes in a tree where you can't reach*

britney spears never was attractive. And most women men I know find attractive aren't athletic, but healthy and fertile looking.

child bearing hips FTW!
Isidoor
12-02-2008, 19:23
:eek: tall-o-phobe! *puts all your clothes in a tree where you can't reach*

*head-butts in the crotch*

tbh I'm quite tall (but not freakishly) and I just don't find women taller than me attractive.

child bearing hips FTW!

meh, personally I find -slender but not anorexia- women to be the most attractive, but there are more important things than the body type, even when it comes to the looks. A beautiful face for instance is way more important than the amount of fat or the hip-waist ratio or the size of breasts etc. (although it's probably even more complicated than that, but what about women isn't ;))
Law Abiding Criminals
12-02-2008, 20:57
So this isn't your thing?
http://i171.photobucket.com/albums/u316/dltech07/Misc/ShowLetter5.jpg

Not by a long shot. Hellga's better-looking than that.
Knights of Liberty
12-02-2008, 21:04
Wow this thread went downhill realy fast...
Sumamba Buwhan
12-02-2008, 21:18
my wife is doing cardio kickboxing and uses 3 lb free weights

her arm muscles are getting pretty big but nothing like this

http://www.rdfrights.com/Images/programmes/2492big.jpg
Esselldee
12-02-2008, 21:38
I started working out with weights with the help of The Fat Burning workout by Joyce Vedral, many years ago. (I did it for many months, until I got a full time job, and quit the workouts.)

http://www.amazon.com/gp/reader/0446391948/ref=sib_dp_pt/105-8001519-1846016#reader-link

The pic is her at 50, after starting the workout about 35 years of age, when she was getting rotund.

They sculpt your body and make you feel great!

Free weights are cheap and the workout can be done in the privacy of your own home.
M-mmYumyumyumYesindeed
12-02-2008, 21:50
What do you think of women doing weights?

There's absolutely nothing wrong with it, if she wants to then she's not harming anyone.

And even when women do 'bulk up' and put on large amounts of muscle mass there's absolutely nothing wrong with that, if that's what they want to do then, sure.
Amor Pulchritudo
13-02-2008, 03:43
So this isn't your thing?
http://i171.photobucket.com/albums/u316/dltech07/Misc/ShowLetter5.jpg

Ugh... I'm not a fan of that, but an average woman would never be able to achieve that without steroids.

I think it's perfectly fine. Pretty much every member of my (women's only) gym does weights. I never realized it was a source of controversy before...

Quite a few guys (and girls) I know think girls aren't supposed to do weights. There are plenty of women who go to the gym and just do cardio or itty-bitty weights that don't do anything.

*snip*

I'm very much an advocate of weight training for women, and that's proper weight training rather than the laughable compromise shoved down womens' throats (basically: take a weight approximating to zero, do a number of reps approximating to infinity, alternate with the odd sit-up that will MAGICALLY REDUCE YOUR BELLY FAT OH SHIT IT DOESN'T WORK LIKE THAT). Besides being good for their overall health (and far, far too often the missing link within the stereotypical treadmill-hamster's routine) it's even actually rather complementary to many (though maybe not all) aesthetic goals (not least because lean muscle mass => increased metabolism => OMG YAY FAT LOSS).


Ditto.

I am so sick of seeing girls lifting 10Kgs on the leg press and thinking that will make them lose weight. Number one, spot reducing is a myth. Number two, muscle mass increases your metabolism, just like you said.

I like doing weights. :) I can bench more than half the guys (and most of the girls) I know, and I'm not butch, I'm curvy!

I'm just wondering if guys find women like this ugly.
*snip*
Even if they do, I doubt that athletic women are considered ugly in general because all pop stars are athletic. Look what happened to britney spears when she stopped exercising.

I'm a girl, and I'm personally not a fan of the athletic-netballer-type look, but I definitely don't think it's unattractive. You can be fit, do weights, and still look "normal"... well, better than normal, because your body will be tight and toned.
Amor Pulchritudo
13-02-2008, 03:47
britney spears never was attractive. And most women men I know find attractive aren't athletic, but healthy and fertile looking.

You don't have to look "athletic" to be athletic, though. I'm really fit, and I definitely don't look "athletic".
Domici
13-02-2008, 04:36
So many women (and men) think that if a woman does weights, she will bulk up and become the incredible hulk. However, free weights (and weight machines) are very useful in toning and contouring the body. Women do not have enough testosterone to bulk up, unless they're weight training every day, with very heavy weights, taking steroids and consuming well over the amount of protien they should. So...

What do you think of women doing weights?

The same thing I think of women in men's shirts, on motorcycles, playing video games, and holding firearms. A little is incredibly hot. Too much, and it's like dating your brother.
Kura-Pelland
13-02-2008, 10:28
The same thing I think of women in men's shirts, on motorcycles, playing video games, and holding firearms. A little is incredibly hot. Too much, and it's like dating your brother.

That could be the quote of the thread.
Dryks Legacy
13-02-2008, 10:41
That could be the quote of the thread.

(2 votes)
Dyakovo
13-02-2008, 16:46
Ugh...

Yay! The type of response I was looking for when I posted that picture...
Isidoor
13-02-2008, 16:50
You don't have to look "athletic" to be athletic, though. I'm really fit, and I definitely don't look "athletic".

well, at the end I wrote looking, so I meant athletic ... looking. So yeah, I agree.