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Seeing as many of your support Barack Obama for President I was wondering if you could tolerate a somewhat 'moderate' Republican as President.

No, I could not tolerate him, but like Bu$h, I would have no choice, as I am American and lack the savings to emigrate (it is my understanding that pretty much wherever I went, I would have to prove I already had employment lined up in the destination country, which is difficult to do from the States if you don't know anyone in destination country, or the ability to support self off of savings for six months).

As I am 22, I lack the six months' savings bit, I'm about that far out of college and by the time I can afford to leave the country, at least the first four years of a McCain presidency would probably be over.

Policy-wise, the only substantive difference between McCain and Bu$h that I can think of is that McCain regards waterboarding as torture; Bu$h does not. Did I mention that McCain=Bomb Iran 2009?

Edit to add proof:

http://i16.photobucket.com/albums/b34/thpatrick/BushandMcCain.jpg

I want him to be President.

McCain photoshops well. You take the picture above, move an arm and...

http://www.basehead.org/files/shots/1-mccain_bush_hug.jpg Voila!!

:)


Here's another example,

McCain cuts a rug with the Prez:

http://www.truthdig.com/images/eartothegrounduploads/mccain_bush_hug_300.jpg

A bit of photshop magic and...

http://www.newsfollowup.com/id/images_14/mccain_bush_hand_butt.jpg

He makes it so easy. :)

McCain photoshops well. You take the picture above, move an arm and...

http://www.newsfollowup.com/id/images_14/mccain_bush_hand_butt.jpg

He makes it so easy. :)

That one is funny. or maybe i'm just too tired to act sanely proerpy nwoaws. sorry ym bad.
more wierd pictures, please maestro (or however you spell it).

Seeing as many of your support Barack Obama for President I was wondering if you could tolerate a somewhat 'moderate' Republican as President.

(:sniper::mp5::gundge:) is that your answer ?

more wierd pictures, please mysterio (or however you spell it).
It’s ‘maestro’.

Mysterio is a Spiderman villain, I think...

Yes. He's the best candidate the Republicans could have come up with.

Rolling squid;13437197']I think I could deal with him as a president, providing he doesn't pick Huckabee as his VP, and as long as he stays out of Iran, then yes. I'd be a bit disappointed, but I'd live with it.More so then Bush?

I'm confident in McCain's chances - the map looks good for him and he's got the team to pull it off. :)

I think I could deal with him as a president, providing he doesn't pick Huckabee as his VP, and as long as he stays out of Iran, then yes. I'd be a bit disappointed, but I'd live with it.

Tolerate, hell I am going to vote for him.

We'd all better decide now if we can live with him; because like it or not (and I don't), he is going to be our next President. Clinton will win the Democratic nomination, and hating Hillary is the one thing that can unite the fractured Republicans. And yes, Huckabee will be VP. McCain has to choose him to appease the Fundies.

No. And I couldn't tolerate Obama, either.

I'm leaving the country either way.

Tolerate, hell I am going to vote for him.

The only way I'd vote for him is if he were running against Hillary and my state was close enough in the polls where my vote might actually matter. Fortunately, I live in Connecticut so it doesn't. I'll probably vote for someone competent instead. :)

Yes I could support him though I really hate his position on several things. But that is better than hating all the positions of a candidate and that is the alternative. :p

Yeah, of course. He's a capable military man who would keep us in Iraq the right way. I'd rather we withdrew, but at least he'd know what to do. I'd vote for him if Hillary was the Democratic nomination.

More so then Bush?

At this point, anything less than Ron Paul or Huckabee would be welcome as opposed to Bush.

The only way I'd vote for him is if he were running against Hillary and my state was close enough in the polls where my vote might actually matter. Fortunately, I live in Connecticut so it doesn't. I'll probably vote for someone competent instead. :)

LG FOR PRESIDENT!!!!!!!!!

If it came down to McCain vs. Hillary, I'd vote for McCain, too.
... In fact, if it came down to a steaming pile of dog poo vs. Hillary, I'd give it some thought, then vote for the dog poo (because while both may make for poor Presidents, dog poo, at least, cannot lie to us ;))
Not that it matters what I think... my home state's going to go for McCain no matter what I do, so my vote for Obama is going to be about as important as a square of toilet paper.

No. I couldnt. I tend to be intolerant of fear and war mongerers. Not much for sycophants either.

I can tolerate McCain in the sense that I wouldn't run to another country if he were elected.

We'd all better decide now if we can live with him; because like it or not (and I don't), he is going to be our next President. Clinton will win the Democratic nomination, and hating Hillary is the one thing that can unite the fractured Republicans. And yes, Huckabee will be VP. McCain has to choose him to appease the Fundies.

QFT (I hate that expression)

This is exactly whats going to happen. The Democratic parte Elite don't like Obama. Hillary will win, no matter what the people want.

It'd depend on who he picks for the VP. Strategically, the best move would be Condi. McCain/Rice would beat Coulter's choice Billary in a landslide.

Voting for him.

QFT (I hate that expression)

This is exactly whats going to happen. The Democratic parte Elite don't like Obama. Hillary will win, no matter what the people want.



People need to stop saying that. There is no indication what so ever that Hillary is garunteed to win, and there is no indication that the Dem Party elite will still give to Clinton.

Just because the Republican party doesnt care about what the people want (see 2000 election) doesnt mean the dems dont.

Fuck (http://antiwar.com/justin/?articleid=12204) McCain (http://antiwar.com/justin/?articleid=12240).

Hell, even conservatives are against him, and that's saying something. See here (http://www.amconmag.com/2008/2008_02_11/cover.html), here (http://nowaymccain.com/), and here (http://www.chuckbaldwinlive.com/c2008/cbarchive_20080208.html).

We need someone who can truly unite America and improve our standing in the world. That's why I support Lunatic Goofballs for President.

Fuck (http://antiwar.com/justin/?articleid=12204) McCain (http://antiwar.com/justin/?articleid=12240).

Hell, even conservatives are against him, and that's saying something. See here (http://www.amconmag.com/2008/2008_02_11/cover.html), here (http://nowaymccain.com/), and here (http://www.chuckbaldwinlive.com/c2008/cbarchive_20080208.html).

We need someone who can truly unite America and improve our standing in the world. That's why I support Lunatic Goofballs for President.



Thats anothe reason I dont see McRambo getting the win. He's spilting the Republican party, because all the conservatives dont like him because while he is as crazy as them, he isnt a puppet.

A lot of Reps will vote for Clinthullu or a third party or just abstain because they dont like McRambo.



EDIT: That being said, I think you guy who wrote to blog you link to is also a bit...out of touch

http://i16.photobucket.com/albums/b34/thpatrick/BushandMcCain.jpg

GOD HATES FAGS !!!

No, and here's why. Harriet Meyers.

When Bush tried to nominate Meyers for the court it was the hard right base that shut it down. They essentially pulled his reigns. If McCain wants to get anything done, especially with a weaker congress than Bush had, he'll have to cater to a base that is already hostile to him. And it's that base where the worst of the worst ideas come from. It isn't until they ditch that that someone from the Republican party can be the 'maverick' that McCain pretends or perhaps even wants to be.

So, in my view, here's what needs to happen. McCain needs to get the nomination (all but handled), then he needs to lose because the base abandoned him. Now the base and the rest of the party has to deal with whatever their nightmare scenario is, Obama or worse for them Clinton. Now, the trick is how they react to that-the wrong way is to decide that they need to coddle the base. The right way (right and wrong in this case are determined by my desire) is to realize that the base is what lost them the election and then be able to put forth a candidate that isn't as beholden as any candidate they're going to have now.

Seeing as many of your support Barack Obama for President I was wondering if you could tolerate a somewhat 'moderate' Republican as President.

Yes. I'd go for Obama or McCain. This has been my position from the start.

I don't want another Republican president. Oh fucking God no.

"Tolerate" him? I voted for him!

I don't want another Republican president. Oh fucking God no.

Seconded. Especially not McSlain.

It's not like I have a choice. I could emigrate but I will likely not. This nation is nothing to me but my family and friends are all in it and I am not departing to a foreign land over another shit president.

I'm leaving the country either way.

Don't let the door hit you on the way out. :p

BTW: nice sig.

Don't let the door hit you on the way out. :p

*WHAP!*

Ouch! Now you warn me! :mad:

j/k

BTW: nice sig.

Danke. :p

It'd depend on who he picks for the VP. Strategically, the best move would be Condi. McCain/Rice would beat Coulter's choice Billary in a landslide.

Rice was my original VP choice along with Rudy for Prez.

And if Ann Coulter actually does support Hill o' Beans, I will stop reading her blog ;)

I'd vote Billary before I voted McCain. And that says something. Really I'm voting for Huckabee though.

And if Ann Coulter actually does support Hill o' Beans, I will stop reading her blog ;)



I had hoped that even you had the sense to have stopped that already.

Honostly...If McRambo and Billary Clinthullu are my two options...I think I might just have to bite the bullet and vote for Clinthullu. At least she wont be strong enough to win a second term.


ps- I dont think a McCain/Rice idea would be a good idea for Republicans, because tbh I think that would just alienate him from even more republicans...lets face it, most people who wont vote for someone just because theyre black are Republican.

And if Ann Coulter actually does support Hill o' Beans, I will stop reading her blog ;)

Hill o' Beans, lmao. That's actually quite clever. :D

http://www.newsfollowup.com/id/images_14/mccain_bush_hand_butt.jpg

He makes it so easy. :)Anyone told you that they love you today? Other than your obviously awesome wife & kids?

*wipes tears*

GOD HATES FAGS !!!

Maybe Fred Phelps will picket the Republican National Convention!:D

Lawd, please make it so...:D

Maybe Fred Phelps will picket the Republican National Convention!:D

Lawd, please make it so...:D

No, I do not want Phelps coming to my state. Ever. :mad:

Maybe.

I'd rather have him than Obama, or Hillary.

I think that a McCain/Rice ticket would be quite powerful.

The Republican and Democrat parties are both dead. They say different things, but both parties are moving toward a fascist/socialist totalitarian state. Vote third party - if they've rigged the elections as many allege, there's no point in voting anyhow, and if the elections aren't rigged, we need to say no to "more of the same."

The winds of freedom are blowing, but as we shift from "left" to "right" we're just tacking into the wind back to the totalitarianism the founding fathers sought to escape.

Maybe Fred Phelps will picket the Republican National Convention!:D

Lawd, please make it so...:D

This would, near certainly, bring a temporary balance to the universe.

I think that a McCain/Rice ticket would be quite powerful.Hope no one brings up those 52, not ONE, reports, 'twixt April and September of '01, that Rice lied about UNDER OATH, or someone might get uncomfortable.
Although those kinds of things just don't matter unless there's a fucking blowjob involved.

Competent? LG, your standards have fallen. I would have expected someone clownish.

In his book, maybe they're synonymous? :p

The only way I'd vote for him is if he were running against Hillary and my state was close enough in the polls where my vote might actually matter. Fortunately, I live in Connecticut so it doesn't. I'll probably vote for someone competent instead. :)

Competent? LG, your standards have fallen. I would have expected someone clownish.

Competent? LG, your standards have fallen. I would have expected someone clownish.LG methinks means someone competent by his standards. Which in of in itself's is quite a paradox to someone who does not follow the ways of the LG.

Competent? LG, your standards have fallen. I would have expected someone clownish.

Yes. My standards have lowered significantly in the last seven years. I'll settle for competent.

I'll take care of the clowning myself. *nod*

I'm voting for McCain.
He'll take us right to Hell and slay the Devil with a gatling gun.

Seeing as many of your support Barack Obama for President I was wondering if you could tolerate a LIBERAL Republican as President.

The above has been corrected.

Well, I survived four years of Carter and eight years of Clinton so I could survive four years of McCain. I would bitch, moan, complain, and be utterly disgusted with the administration but I would survive.

Lunatic Goofballs for President!
A Pie in Every Face!

GOD HATES FAGS !!!

I knew there was someone from the Westboro Baptist Church lurking around in this forum. :D

I don't want another Republican president. Oh fucking God no.

Fear not. John McCain is a Democrat in Republican clothing so no matter who wins the election you will end up with a Democrat in the White House. :(

of course i could tolerate mccain as president. he is a reasonable man who could balance out the excesses of the democratic congress.

not that ill vote for him but no one else will either so it wont matter.

Fear not. John McCain is a Democrat in Republican clothing so no matter who wins the election you will end up with a Democrat in the White House. :(


Liberals and democrats dont want to blow up everything that doesnt fly an American flag. You fail.

I don't think anyone's getting much choice over the matter. I'm sure he'd be fine, in a kind of "lame, but ineffective" kind of way.

not that ill vote for him but no one else will either so it wont matter.

Huh?

John McCain is a Democrat in Republican clothing

And Clinton's a commie. Yes, I know. :rolleyes:

Huh?

it doesnt matter who the republicans run. no one is going to vote republican after the disaster of the last 8 years. jesus christ could be the republican nominee and he wouldnt win.

Liberals and democrats dont want to blow up everything that doesnt fly an American flag. You fail.
Except Jackson, Polk, Wilson, Kennedy and LBJ.:p

Lunatic Goofballs for President!
A Pie in Every Face!
And a face in every pie!
:p

Except Jackson, Polk, Wilson, Kennedy and LBJ.:p

Well, the first three dont count, because around the late 1940s the two parties kind of switched their views. So Wilson and back arent what we would today consider democrats.


Kennedy is debatable as we just had military advisors in nam. LBJ I cant defend because he was an idiot.

But I said democrats and liberals and none of those presidents were really "true" liberals". Perhaps I should have simply left out the democrat part.

I'm not sure. He's rather pro-war, but then again, so is Hillary Clinton. So if it was between the two of them, and we'd almost certainly be en route to a few more years of Iraq, Afghanistan, and maybe Iran and whatever else they decide to liberate, I'd probably vote McCain -- unless Huckabee was his VP. Then I'd abstain.

However, as I miss being able to vote in this year's election by a month or so, my opinion really doesn't matter all that much.

And Wilson didn't want to go to war either, and entered only when the Germans were literally insterting their penii into America's bottom.


This is true, but he was also a bit of a facist (see Espionage Act) and a racist (read some of his commits regarding blacks).

I was really only being faecetious.


I know, but it was still a point worth adressing.

Well, the first three dont count, because around the late 1940s the two parties kind of switched their views. So Wilson and back arent what we would today consider democrats.


Kennedy is debatable as we just had military advisors in nam. LBJ I cant defend because he was an idiot.

But I said democrats and liberals and none of those presidents were really "true" liberals". Perhaps I should have simply left out the democrat part.
And Wilson didn't want to go to war either, and entered only when the Germans were literally insterting their penii into America's bottom.

I was really only being faecetious.

it doesnt matter who the republicans run. no one is going to vote republican after the disaster of the last 8 years. jesus christ could be the republican nominee and he wouldnt win.

Yeah... Definately some sound logic there. :rolleyes:

Yeah... Definately some sound logic there. :rolleyes:

as compared to your extremely insightful "huh?"

yes.

Lunatic Goofballs for President!
A Pie in Every Face!

At least one. :)

Hell. No.

Sadly, I can't go anywhere, so I have to live with him.

as compared to your extremely insightful "huh?"

yes.

So if America "will not elect another republican" then why are people, gee, voting for them in the primaries?

I'm not sure. He's rather pro-war, but then again, so is Hillary Clinton. So if it was between the two of them, and we'd almost certainly be en route to a few more years of Iraq, Afghanistan, and maybe Iran and whatever else they decide to liberate, I'd probably vote McCain -- unless Huckabee was his VP. Then I'd abstain.


You've summed up my views on the matter almost entirely. *ruffles hair and magical pixie dust twinkles briefly in the air*
Still, I think there are better options out there (Barack Obama).

And Clinton's a commie. Yes, I know. :rolleyes:

:eek:

So if America "will not elect another republican" then why are people, gee, voting for them in the primaries?

duh

because they are republicans.

so they pick the least "republican" republican that they can find then diss him as being RINO hoping that no one will notice that he really IS a republican.

it doesnt matter who the republicans run. no one is going to vote republican after the disaster of the last 8 years. jesus christ could be the republican nominee and he wouldnt win.

You're hilarious.

Of course people will vote Republican.

I could TOLERATE him, and not much else. At least he's not Hillary. (Washes mouth out with soap)

McCain as president wouldn't be too bad per se, but in order to win he'll have to promise a lot of favours to the religious right, including that he'll appoint ultra-conservative judges to the Supreme Court. America already has too many conservatives on the SCOTUS, and if this isn't rectified before an important ruling comes up (a new Roe vs. Wade for example) then it'll be bad.

I'm hoping for a Lunatic Goofballs-Obama ticket myself.

duh

because they are republicans.

so they pick the least "republican" republican that they can find then diss him as being RINO hoping that no one will notice that he really IS a republican.

Delusional would be an understatement.

McCain photoshops well. You take the picture above, move an arm and...

http://www.basehead.org/files/shots/1-mccain_bush_hug.jpg Voila!!

:)


Here's another example,

McCain cuts a rug with the Prez:

http://www.truthdig.com/images/eartothegrounduploads/mccain_bush_hug_300.jpg

A bit of photshop magic and...

http://www.newsfollowup.com/id/images_14/mccain_bush_hand_butt.jpg

He makes it so easy. :)
Lol you're really good. :)

Yes, but only because he's not allowed to be President for the next 100 years. :p

Depends what you mean by "tolerate." If McCain became president, I wouldn't make him sit in the back of the bus, or try to disenfranchise him. In that respect, I guess I would be "tolerant."

I am happy that he will almost certainly be one of the nominees. I think his views are much more representative of Americans than any of the other Republican candidates, both now and in 2000. I'm happy to see the GOP is starting to change their "anti-competence" platform.

I'm not sure what exactly makes people convinced Obama will Save America™ (sort of the Democratic Party version of Ron Paul, but with more widespread support). He's not that far from Clinton in many respects; he's more anti-war, perhaps, and probably would do more to help the environment, but otherwise I can't see what makes him particularly unique. Apart from all the Hope, Change, 'n' Mint Chip Cookies rhetoric, that is, and the fact that he either believes fully in what he's saying or he's a damn sight better at lying than the rest of the lot.

That's the funny things about politics: some politicians are truly saint-like, and have no reason to hide anything. Others are in league with Satan, but have amazing lying skills. It's those poor souls in the middle, who are flawed just enough to draw public ire but not enough to have demonic powers.

Still, I think there are better options out there (Barack Obama).

I'm not sure what exactly makes people convinced Obama will Save America™ (sort of the Democratic Party version of Ron Paul, but with more widespread support). He's not that far from Clinton in many respects; he's more anti-war, perhaps, and probably would do more to help the environment, but otherwise I can't see what makes him particularly unique. Apart from all the Hope, Change, 'n' Mint Chip Cookies rhetoric, that is, and the fact that he either believes fully in what he's saying or he's a damn sight better at lying than the rest of the lot.

I'm not sure what exactly makes people convinced Obama will Save America™ (sort of the Democratic Party version of Ron Paul, but with more widespread support). He's not that far from Clinton in many respects; he's more anti-war, perhaps, and probably would do more to help the environment, but otherwise I can't see what makes him particularly unique. Apart from all the Hope, Change, 'n' Mint Chip Cookies rhetoric, that is, and the fact that he either believes fully in what he's saying or he's a damn sight better at lying than the rest of the lot.



Hence why I like him better.

Hence why I like him better.

You and me both, home-skillet.

He'd be tolerable, mainly bc he'd be a lot better than Clinton or Obama.

Well, I survived four years of Carter and eight years of Clinton so I could survive four years of McCain. I would bitch, moan, complain, and be utterly disgusted with the administration but I would survive.
...unlike how you feel about the current Bush-administration, apparently. And it scares me a bit that you could think that Bush was better than Clinton or Carter.

Fear not. John McCain is a Democrat in Republican clothing so no matter who wins the election you will end up with a Democrat in the White House. :(
And Hillary is a Republican in Democrat clothing - no, she's no socialist, nor is she a communist.

And Hillary is a Republican in Democrat clothing - no, she's no socialist, nor is she a communist.
Will this "Hilary is a socialist" crap ever get old?

Will this "Hilary is a socialist" crap ever get old?

To the people who say it? No.
To everyone else? Has already happened.

Will this "Hilary is a socialist" crap ever get old?

Son, it's been old from the start. :(

McCain answered the call of his country. I respect his willingness to obey the draft out of honor for his country. As a politician, however, there is very little to respect.

He has all the qualities of Nixon and Polk. If the Keating 5 scandal isn't enough to make you leery of him; his belief in preemptive war; and that nuking Iran and being in Iraq for 100 years (if that is what it takes) are good ideas, should make you think twice.

All of us have heard this term 'preventive war' since the earliest days of Hitler. ...I don't believe there is such a thing; and, frankly, I wouldn't even listen to anyone seriously that came in and talked about such a thing.- Dwight D Eisenhower

i do not believe that we can endure another 8 years of a false conservative in the White House and remain true to the concepts of liberty and justice enshrined in our organic documents (Declaration of Independence, Constitution, Bill of Rights, etc). Conservatives have been lulled to sleep just because there is a Republican in the white house who is treated harshly by the press--neither which guarantee Conservatism.

At least with Hilary in the White House, the Conservatives in America will fight against further abuses and intrusions of their rights, privileges, and immunities as a free people. With McCain they will just assume that further surrendering their civil rights is the thing to do. Neither are good options, but with the former there is at least a fighting chance.

If McCain wins the nomination of the Grand Old Party, i will not vote for him, even though i am a life-long Republican. i probably end up voting American Independent Party or some other third party that best represents the beliefs and ideals of liberty, freedom, and justice that America once stood for.

If he wins, every single poster on this forum *will* tolerate him.

Seeing as many of your support Barack Obama for President I was wondering if you could tolerate a somewhat 'moderate' Republican as President.I've tolerated a nutcase Republican for president, I shall survive McCain as well, should he become President.

The Republican and Democrat parties are both dead. They say different things, but both parties are moving toward a fascist/socialist totalitarian state.

Vote third party - if they've rigged the elections as many allege, there's no point in voting anyhow, and if the elections aren't rigged, we need to say no to "more of the same."

Quoted cause he/she beat me to it.

And Clinton's a commie. Yes, I know. :rolleyes:

I have been many times reminded she is NOT a communist but is in fact one of the below.

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v287/Celtlund/Clintonism.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v287/Celtlund/hillaryfac.jpg

Nö.

If it came down to McCain as the new President, I could tolerate it. I seriously don't think he'll be elected because he's so old and he can't hold the attention of the uber-conservatives, but if he were elected, I'm okay with it.

If he wins, every single poster on this forum *will* tolerate him.

You betcha. :p

I have been many times reminded she is NOT a communist but is in fact one of the below.

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v287/Celtlund/hillaryfac.jpg
Here's one I just made myself :

http://img212.imageshack.us/img212/605/nomaclw7.png

Here's one I just made myself :

http://img212.imageshack.us/img212/605/nomaclw7.png

Well, considering I'll be 65 this year, I don't think he is that old. :p Besides age = wisdom ***nods***

Well, considering I'll be 65 this year, I don't think he is that old. :p Besides age = wisdom ***nods***
He's no Obama in terms of age, that's for sure :p

If I really couldn't tolerate him, I would either move to another country or get my gun and start shooting feds. So, while I dislike McCain, I can tolerate him.