Movies That just doesn't even begin to make Sense...
Wilgrove
09-02-2008, 10:43
What are some of the movies that doesn't even begin to make sense to you.
For me it would have to be "Pretty woman". Oh yea, a rich guy falls in love with a hooker and they begin a romantic engagement together. Yea that happens in real life allll the time.
Another one is "Maid in Manhattan". 1. I have never seen a Maid that looks that good, 2. this movie has the same problem with "Pretty Woman", a rich guy falls in love with a maid and they begin a romantic engagement together. Needless to say, I'm not a big fan of chick flicks. Now it your turn!
Cannot think of a name
09-02-2008, 11:02
What are some of the movies that doesn't even begin to make sense to you.
For me it would have to be "Pretty woman". Oh yea, a rich guy falls in love with a hooker and they begin a romantic engagement together. Yea that happens in real life allll the time.
Another one is "Maid in Manhattan". 1. I have never seen a Maid that looks that good, 2. this movie has the same problem with "Pretty Woman", a rich guy falls in love with a maid and they begin a romantic engagement together. Needless to say, I'm not a big fan of chick flicks. Now it your turn!
So, what kind of media filter do you have that you never became aware of Anna Nicole Smith? Because I might be interested in purchasing one.
Wilgrove
09-02-2008, 11:03
So, what kind of media filter do you have that you never became aware of Anna Nicole Smith? Because I might be interested in purchasing one.
It's called "Never been interested in that shit, Never will".
Cannot think of a name
09-02-2008, 11:18
It's called "Never been interested in that shit, Never will".
Somehow that didn't work for me. Something about it being fucking everywhere...
Wilgrove
09-02-2008, 11:45
Somehow that didn't work for me. Something about it being fucking everywhere...
I don't watch that much TV beside "The Simpson" "King of the Hill" "Scrubs" and some shows on Adult Swim. I spend most of my time either studying, playing with my cat, spending time with family, or on here. So I pretty much limited myself of how much I'm exposed to Hollywood crap.
Gigantic Leprechauns
09-02-2008, 12:06
2001: A Space Odyssey made absolutely no sense whatsoever. That, and it was one of the most boring movies I have ever had the misfortune of seeing.
Gigantic Leprechauns
09-02-2008, 12:17
It's about human evolution. It's pretty slow paced but if you can appreciate some of the best visuals ever put in a movie set perfectly to great music, it's worth watching.
If you can manage to stay awake through it, that is. ;)
VietnamSounds
09-02-2008, 12:17
2001: A Space Odyssey made absolutely no sense whatsoever. That, and it was one of the most boring movies I have ever had the misfortune of seeing.It's about human evolution. It's pretty slow paced but if you can appreciate some of the best visuals ever put in a movie set perfectly to great music, it's worth watching.
That movie the day after tomorrow. "Oh no! The cold air is coming! Shut the door!" What?
The matrix sequels.
Every french movie.
For me it would have to be "Pretty woman". Oh yea, a rich guy falls in love with a hooker and they begin a romantic engagement together. Yea that happens in real life allll the timeOr how about "Saving private Ryan"; yeah right, like there's a world war going on in real life all the time.. A likely story, pfeh
Fnordgasm 5
09-02-2008, 12:45
Donnie Darko.. They guy gets killed by a jet engine from the future!
Ruby City
09-02-2008, 12:48
The Prestige was so confusing it could just as well have been a random sequence of unrelated scenes. I think the story was about two men who fight over a woman and since they are magicians they fight by trying to outperform eachothers' magic tricks. I didn't understand anything more detailed than that, it was 2 hours of "What happened there???" and "How does this add up with that earlier stuff???".
Alien vs. Predator is about a team of scientists who go on an expedition to Antarctica. When the scientists arrive at this desolate place they pull out enough weapons for a small army. I mean the scientists don't know that they will run into aliens and need the weapons so why did they bring them? Did they plan to declare war on the penguins?
Alien vs. Predator is about a team of scientists who go on an expedition to Antarctica. When the scientists arrive at this desolate place they pull out enough weapons for a small army. I mean the scientists don't know that they will run into aliens and need the weapons so why did they bring them? Did they plan to declare war on the penguins?
Maybe they were actually looking for the Borealis.
Cannot think of a name
09-02-2008, 13:03
Pfff, you all are wusses...until you've braved the wilds of something like Begotten (http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0101420/) or Skidoo (http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0063612/) you know not of movies that make little to no sense...
Neu Leonstein
09-02-2008, 13:07
Donnie Darko.. They guy gets killed by a jet engine from the future!
*blows up to 5 times normal size, growls threateningly*
Do not diss that movie!
*shrinks back*
If it doesn't make sense, that's because your feeble brain can't comprehend the awesomeness.
I would put forward the "Fast and Furious" movies.
Cannot think of a name
09-02-2008, 13:12
I would put forward the "Fast and Furious" movies.
The Fast and the Furious movies make perfect sense, they're just not very good.
Wait, an undercover cop sent into the street racer scene to foil a group of hot rodders that essentially pull off train robberies on trucks with souped up Honda Civics doesn't really make all that much sense...
But that's just a shitty premise (Point Break on wheels) more than it is a movie that doesn't make sense.
Neu Leonstein
09-02-2008, 13:14
But that's just a shitty premise (Point Break on wheels) more than it is a movie that doesn't make sense.
Does this mean we have to have an argument on what exactly the definition is for a "movie that doesn't make sense"? :(
Cannot think of a name
09-02-2008, 13:16
Does this mean we have to have an argument on what exactly the definition is for a "movie that doesn't make sense"? :(
No, but it would give me something to do...
Neu Leonstein
09-02-2008, 13:20
No, but it would give me something to do...
Go ahead then, I'll get some sleep. ;)
Better though (http://stickcricket.foxsports.com.au/gameslog.php).
THE LOST PLANET
09-02-2008, 13:20
Pfff, you all are wusses...until you've braved the wilds of something like Begotten (http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0101420/) or Skidoo (http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0063612/) you know not of movies that make little to no sense...
Skidoo!! that movie was great! Groucho Marx smoking a joint, Jackie Gleason on acid (I love the sink scene in prison)... I heard it got buried by Otto Premingers estate, has it been released on DVD?
Cannot think of a name
09-02-2008, 13:23
Skidoo!! that movie was great! Groucho Marx smoking a joint, Jackie Gleason on acid (I love the sink scene in prison)... I heard it got buried by Otto Premingers estate, has it been released on DVD?
I don't know, but it popped up at random on AMC last month.
THE LOST PLANET
09-02-2008, 13:24
I don't know, but it popped up at random on AMC last month.Well then there's hope...
Sirmomo1
09-02-2008, 13:32
What are some of the movies that doesn't even begin to make sense to you.
For me it would have to be "Pretty woman". Oh yea, a rich guy falls in love with a hooker and they begin a romantic engagement together. Yea that happens in real life allll the time.
I don't think there are any real life examples of cursed pirates turning into walking skeletons, the letters of transit everyone was after would have been worthless in real life Casablanca and some say that time travel isn't possible.
They're just movies.
Cannot think of a name
09-02-2008, 13:59
Well then there's hope...
It seems ridiculous for the Prelinger estate to try and bury that movie. In a lot of ways Prelinger was about the purest maverick you can have in what was left of the Hollywood System and his movies where as much about spectacle as anything else (I mean, c'mon-Frank Sinatra as a heroin addict?) so Skidoo was the epitome of that. To ignore that part of his cannon is to undermine his work if you ask me.
THE LOST PLANET
09-02-2008, 14:01
It seems ridiculous for the Prelinger estate to try and bury that movie. In a lot of ways Prelinger was about the purest maverick you can have in what was left of the Hollywood System and his movies where as much about spectacle as anything else (I mean, c'mon-Frank Sinatra as a heroin addict?) so Skidoo was the epitome of that. To ignore that part of his cannon is to undermine his work if you ask me.Maybe they were just ashamed of Channings musical number near the end;)
I 'heart' Huckabees or something like that is by far one of the worst, least understandable movies i've ever seen. I didn't know what was going on, and was thoroughly pissed I wasted over an hour of my time on it.:mad:
HC Eredivisie
09-02-2008, 14:28
Alien vs. Predator is about a team of scientists who go on an expedition to Antarctica. When the scientists arrive at this desolate place they pull out enough weapons for a small army. I mean the scientists don't know that they will run into aliens and need the weapons so why did they bring them? Did they plan to declare war on the penguins?
Well, they didn't brought the weapons. The bodyguards of Weyland did.
Waztakan
09-02-2008, 14:44
Mulholland Drive.
I'm not saying it was a bad movie. I loved it, in fact. It was like watching a dream. But one that made utterly no sense. I remember scouring the Internet afterwards to try and figure out what I had just watched. (I got the core story, but that was just half the movie)
Anarchy works
09-02-2008, 14:47
most movies today are either based on a totally f***ing retarded premise, although the actuall sequence of events may be perfectly logical and sensible,
or are a stupid chick flick, and ocassionally a movie that is actually based on logical sense, sometimes movies make no sense in the least but turn out to be a good movie anyways(hot fuzz, Anyone?).
truth is most things that come from hollywood these days are fucked up beyond all repair. yet we as a society are so obsessed with that shit that wew spend all our time waiting to hear the latest celebrity gossip, not only is this the unhealthiest for of hero worship, it is also dumbing down our nation.
how else did kerry almost tie bush, how else does hillary have so goddamn much motherf***ing support? :mp5::sniper: :headbang: :upyours:
Cannot think of a name
09-02-2008, 14:53
Go ahead then, I'll get some sleep. ;)
Better though (http://stickcricket.foxsports.com.au/gameslog.php).
Ah, c'mon man-I'm an American who can't even get into baseball, what are the odds that I'll even understand what's going on in Cricket?
Maybe they were just ashamed of Channings musical number near the end;)
Speaking of sureal, I just watched an Episode of Fantasy Island where Maureen McCormick (of Marcia Brady from The Brady Bunch fame) where she played a former hooker, delivering the line, "You want me to seduce you? That's what I did, and I was good at it!" Ah, forbidden Brady fruit...
Mikesburg
09-02-2008, 14:55
Vampires vs. Zombies
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/9/94/Vampires_vs._zombies.jpg
At no time did any vampire fight any zombie in this movie. Just about the worst thing I've seen in some time. Good for a few laughs perhaps.
Come to think of it, Highlander 2 lost me the moment the immortals were aliens from the planet Zeist. How people can ruin a perfect little standalone movie, I just don't know.
THE LOST PLANET
09-02-2008, 14:56
<snip> :mp5::sniper: :headbang: :upyours:Uhhh... Yeah.
And the gratuitus use of gun smilies and out-of-left-field political rant clearly show your efforts to counter this "dumbing down" of our nation.
Anything by David Lynch (except the Straight Story) - but that's OK, because it's not supposed to make sense in a traditional way :)
Ocean's 12 - that makes no sense at all. Why go through all that shit if they had stolen the thing during the first 15 minutes of the movie? And why go breaking the fourth wall?
GRAH! Fucking movie!
I really like Donny Darko btw :)
Hachihyaku
09-02-2008, 14:57
This might not count but it makes no sense to me why so many people like the
Godfather trilogy. I found them to be extremely boring and pointless films.
THE LOST PLANET
09-02-2008, 15:02
Speaking of sureal, I just watched an Episode of Fantasy Island where Maureen McCormick (of Marcia Brady from The Brady Bunch fame) where she played a former hooker, delivering the line, "You want me to seduce you? That's what I did, and I was good at it!" Ah, forbidden Brady fruit...:p So how much skin did she show?
I always though Jan was hotter...:D
Pupsdaddy
09-02-2008, 15:02
Mulholland Drive.
I'm not saying it was a bad movie. I loved it, in fact. It was like watching a dream. But one that made utterly no sense. I remember scouring the Internet afterwards to try and figure out what I had just watched. (I got the core story, but that was just half the movie)
YEAH, I did the same thing. LOVED the movie, but it took about 3 viewings to get it. There are parts I still don't understand.
One review I read put it perfectly: "You know how there are some songs that you love, and you crank it up every time they come on, but you can't sing along because you can't understand what they're singing half the time? You say to you friends, 'man, I freakin LOVE this song!' and they ask what it's about and you feel stupid because you have NO IDEA, but you love the song anyway....?" This movie is JUST LIKE THAT.
Cannot think of a name
09-02-2008, 15:07
:p So how much skin did she show?
I always though Jan was hotter...:D
Not much, she was supposed to be reformed and all...
Extreme Ironing
09-02-2008, 15:17
Memento makes sense....kind of.
THE LOST PLANET
09-02-2008, 15:18
Memento makes sense....kind of.Now there's a movie that requires you to pay attention... Anybody not replay parts of that movie over again to try to keep up?
Extreme Ironing
09-02-2008, 15:26
Now there's a movie that requires you to pay attention... Anybody not replay parts of that movie over again to try to keep up?
I'm only seen it once, but there were a few instances of pausing it and 'Wait...what?'.
HC Eredivisie
09-02-2008, 15:28
Come to think of it, Highlander 2 lost me the moment the immortals were aliens from the planet Zeist. How people can ruin a perfect little standalone movie, I just don't know.Zeist is a city in The Netherlands.:p
THE LOST PLANET
09-02-2008, 15:35
I think the point people are missing is movies don't have to make rational sense, they just have to entertain.
Speaking of that, Beetlejuice just started on TNT...
I think the point people are missing is movies don't have to make rational sense, they just have to entertain.
Speaking of that, Beetlejuice just started on TNT...
Keaton was better in Much Ado About Nothing
The_pantless_hero
09-02-2008, 15:44
I think the point people are missing is movies don't have to make rational sense, they just have to entertain.
Speaking of that, Beetlejuice just started on TNT...
Well Beetlejuice is a movie about some ghosts and the head loony ghost, it isn't supposed to make sense. Now lets look at other movies based on more realistic principles...
B E E K E R
09-02-2008, 15:45
Anything by David Lynch (except the Straight Story) - but that's OK, because it's not supposed to make sense in a traditional way :)
Love my Lynch ;)
And Straight Story is one of my all time fave movies :)
But on topic...Naked Lunch is a prime example of cinematic madness!
Andaluciae
09-02-2008, 15:47
Nonsensical begins and ends with the American version of the movie "The Wicker Man".
Stoned line delivery from Nicholas Cage, pretentiousness out the nose, highly incompetent foreshadowing, music that was so off the chains it couldn't be taken seriously and a plot that made no sense. Oh, and the gigantic, flaming man made out of sticks at the end, yeah, that too.
The_pantless_hero
09-02-2008, 15:52
This might not count but it makes no sense to me why so many people like the
Godfather trilogy. I found them to be extremely boring and pointless films.
The third one is lame and the second one jumps around in a manner that isn't even followable in an attempt to contrast between Vito Corleone and Michael Corelone but just makes the movie ridiculous. The first movie, however, is one of the best movies ever made. The plot is logically linear and it gets where it means to go.
Hezballoh
09-02-2008, 15:53
:mad::p:mad:This might not count but it makes no sense to me why so many people like the
Godfather trilogy. I found them to be extremely boring and pointless films.
LIAR!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!:mad::p:mad::p they are THE BEST MOVIES EVER!!!!!!!!! :mp5::mp5::mp5:
Conserative Morality
09-02-2008, 16:33
The third matrix movie. Every anime movie I have ever seen.
Katganistan
09-02-2008, 16:46
What are some of the movies that doesn't even begin to make sense to you.
For me it would have to be "Pretty woman". Oh yea, a rich guy falls in love with a hooker and they begin a romantic engagement together. Yea that happens in real life allll the time.
Another one is "Maid in Manhattan". 1. I have never seen a Maid that looks that good, 2. this movie has the same problem with "Pretty Woman", a rich guy falls in love with a maid and they begin a romantic engagement together. Needless to say, I'm not a big fan of chick flicks. Now it your turn!
You were saying?
http://query.nytimes.com/gst/abstract.html?res=9A00E2DD1F3AE633A25752C0A9629C946296D6CF
http://query.nytimes.com/gst/abstract.html?res=9C05E5D6113EE733A25752C2A9639C946797D6CF
http://news.speeple.com/pravda.ru/2007/06/21/man-marries-thai-prostitute-who-turns-out-to-be-former-man-later.htm
It happens more often, apparently, than you think.
Cannot think of a name
09-02-2008, 16:49
You were saying?
http://query.nytimes.com/gst/abstract.html?res=9A00E2DD1F3AE633A25752C0A9629C946296D6CF
http://query.nytimes.com/gst/abstract.html?res=9C05E5D6113EE733A25752C2A9639C946797D6CF
http://news.speeple.com/pravda.ru/2007/06/21/man-marries-thai-prostitute-who-turns-out-to-be-former-man-later.htm
It happens more often, apparently, than you think.
The last one is awesome.
Katganistan
09-02-2008, 16:50
The Prestige was so confusing it could just as well have been a random sequence of unrelated scenes. I think the story was about two men who fight over a woman and since they are magicians they fight by trying to outperform eachothers' magic tricks. I didn't understand anything more detailed than that, it was 2 hours of "What happened there???" and "How does this add up with that earlier stuff???".
Alien vs. Predator is about a team of scientists who go on an expedition to Antarctica. When the scientists arrive at this desolate place they pull out enough weapons for a small army. I mean the scientists don't know that they will run into aliens and need the weapons so why did they bring them? Did they plan to declare war on the penguins?
The Prestige was a bad movie because it couldn't decide what it wanted to be. It started out as a historical piece about rival stage magicians and ended up as a science-fiction flick 80% of the way through the movie.
The Illusionist was much, MUCH better because it stuck to the premise of -- this entire scheme was made possible by a very, very good stage magician. Not "the magician cloned and murdered himself repeatedly to get revenge but only ended up losing everything anyhow."
The Illusionist was much, MUCH better because it stuck to the premise of -- this entire scheme was made possible by a very, very good stage magician. Not "the magician cloned and murdered himself repeatedly to get revenge but only ended up losing everything anyhow."
I do wish they'd made the tricks a bit more believable in The Illusionist though. It just struck me as special effects for the sake of special effects.
Katganistan
09-02-2008, 16:54
Vampires vs. Zombies
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/9/94/Vampires_vs._zombies.jpg
At no time did any vampire fight any zombie in this movie. Just about the worst thing I've seen in some time. Good for a few laughs perhaps.
Come to think of it, Highlander 2 lost me the moment the immortals were aliens from the planet Zeist. How people can ruin a perfect little standalone movie, I just don't know.
You're better off chanting the mantra, "It never existed, it never existed...." :D
You're better off chanting the mantra, "It never existed, it never existed...." :D
Because it didn't. There is NO Highlander 2.
Katganistan
09-02-2008, 16:59
Nonsensical begins and ends with the American version of the movie "The Wicker Man".
Stoned line delivery from Nicholas Cage, pretentiousness out the nose, highly incompetent foreshadowing, music that was so off the chains it couldn't be taken seriously and a plot that made no sense. Oh, and the gigantic, flaming man made out of sticks at the end, yeah, that too.
The original Brit film was much better.
The last one is awesome.
Yeah.... SURPRISE!!!! :fluffle::fluffle::fluffle:
:D
I do wish they'd made the tricks a bit more believable in The Illusionist though. It just struck me as special effects for the sake of special effects.
The only one, really, that I thought was over the top was the "ghosts walking through the audience and being perfectly three dimensional" issue.
The only one, really, that I thought was over the top was the "ghosts walking through the audience and being perfectly three dimensional" issue.
"The Orange Tree" kinda stretched my suspension of disbelief. The "ghosts" would've been better if the inspector's men hadn't come up with an explanation that was straight out of Scooby Doo.
Cannot think of a name
09-02-2008, 17:02
Because it didn't. There is NO Highlander 2.
You do want to go, "What part of 'There can be only one' wasn't clear?"
You do want to go, "What part of 'There can be only one' wasn't clear?"
I dunno, the series and Endgame had their charm. But the nonexistent movie theoretically known as "Highlander 2" was just absolutely abyssmal (rhetorically speaking) ;).
Hachihyaku
09-02-2008, 17:06
:mad::p:mad:
LIAR!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!:mad::p:mad::p they are THE BEST MOVIES EVER!!!!!!!!! :mp5::mp5::mp5:
I thought they where absolutely rubbish and upon asking my friends they think so too.
Yootopia
09-02-2008, 17:14
Every french movie.
What about La Haine?
[NS]Click Stand
09-02-2008, 17:15
Smokin' Aces. Yeah trying to explain an unbeleivably complex plot in the last 5 minutes of a movie is a bad idea. Still loved the rest of it though...
Click Stand;13435533']Smokin' Aces. Yeah trying to explain an unbeleivably complex plot in the last 5 minutes of a movie is a bad idea. Still loved the rest of it though...
I left that movie thinking "Now I'm sure there was a truly excellent plot and maybe a message somewhere in there, but what the fuck was it?"
New Manvir
09-02-2008, 17:33
This might not count but it makes no sense to me why so many people like the
Godfather trilogy. I found them to be extremely boring and pointless films.
*wacks*
Hachihyaku sleeps with the fishes
Intangelon
09-02-2008, 17:33
Pfff, you all are wusses...until you've braved the wilds of something like Begotten (http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0101420/) or Skidoo (http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0063612/) you know not of movies that make little to no sense...
Oh, yes. Carol Channing in her civvies. *shudder*
Marx firing up a blunt was pretty cool, but Otto has made far better films. He's kinda like the film version of Roman Polanski.
*blows up to 5 times normal size, growls threateningly*
Do not diss that movie!
*shrinks back*
If it doesn't make sense, that's because your feeble brain can't comprehend the awesomeness.
I would put forward the "Fast and Furious" movies.
All right, all right. I hereby announce that I have heard FAR too much about Donnie Darko, and so, just yesterday, the DVD arrived from Netflix. I will finally watch the damned thing to see what all the fuss is about. I shall return to this thread and tell you what I thought. Probably tomorrow morning. I'm aware that nobody gives a shit what I think, but I'm sick to the teeth about the whole "cult film" attitude. That's why I can't stand David Lynch (aside from The Straight Story). That guy and films like Eraserhead and Barton Fink (both of which I have seen), and their fans make me wanna fell a cottonwood tree with my head. These asshats actually have the gall to say things like "you just didn't get it" -- I'm WATCHING the damned thing, I'm SEEING what everyone else sees, and it strikes me as unintelligible crap, and it's MY fault? Fuck that, and fuck them. That goes double for Quentin Tarantino apologists.
Maybe they were just ashamed of Channings musical number near the end;)
If they weren't, they should have been!
Incomprehensibility isn't, in and of itself, terrible (try and figure out the average Terry Gilliam film). However, films that are so full of telegraphed gags (I'm talking to you, Will Ferrell & Adam Sandler) or vapid dialogue and plot devices (the film that rises to memory right now is Dying Young) are a different matter. That kind of filmmaking laziness is what pissed me off about films like Robin Hood: Men in Tights. Brooks should know comedy, and I could have written the gags for that film while in the audience.
Rant over -- I apologize.
The Prestige was a bad movie because it couldn't decide what it wanted to be. It started out as a historical piece about rival stage magicians and ended up as a science-fiction flick 80% of the way through the movie.
The Illusionist was much, MUCH better because it stuck to the premise of -- this entire scheme was made possible by a very, very good stage magician.
Strange - I felt the complete opposite. The Illusionist was simply boring and too predictable. The Prestige had some somewhat surprising plot twists and became more interesting because of the sci-fi element.
That movie the day after tomorrow. "Oh no! The cold air is coming! Shut the door!" What?
Indeed :D
Every french movie.
Au contraire. To give some examples:
Taxi.
Léon.
Le Cinquième élément.
La Femme Nikita.
Ensemble, c'est tout.
Un long dimanche de fiançailles.
Le Grand bleu.
Les Visiteurs. (The original one ;))
Le Fabuleux destin d'Amélie Poulain.
Joyeux Noël.
Click Stand;13435533']Smokin' Aces. Yeah trying to explain an unbeleivably complex plot in the last 5 minutes of a movie is a bad idea. Still loved the rest of it though...
The movie sucked. Really. It tried to be cool, but forgot about plot completely (kinda like the equally sucky Shoot'em Up) and then desperately tried to insert it in the last 15-30 minutes of the movie. Gah!
I want to forget I've ever seen it...
Bloodlusty Barbarism
09-02-2008, 18:39
I've watched Donnie Darko about ten times.
When did the time travelling take place? How does the jet engine killing him end up saving the world? Why did that wormhole open up?
I have no clue. But that movie ruled the first time I saw it and it's been ruling a little more ever since.
The Prestige had a fairly easy-to-follow plot to me. I liked it a lot.
Watch The Fountain if you really want to see a Hugh Jackman film that absolutely no one has ever watched and understood, including the people who made it.
[NS]Click Stand
09-02-2008, 18:39
The movie sucked. Really. It tried to be cool, but forgot about plot completely (kinda like the equally sucky Shoot'em Up) and then desperately tried to insert it in the last 15-30 minutes of the movie. Gah!
I want to forget I've ever seen it...
How can you go wrong with psychotic Nazi's who fight with chainsaws and swords? That and a person fell on a chainsaw...so it gets an A+ from me.
Watch The Fountain if you really want to see a Hugh Jackman film that absolutely no one has ever watched and understood, including the people who made it.
That movie's tagline should've been "Drugs are bad, m'kay?"
Tmutarakhan
09-02-2008, 19:59
I 'heart' Huckabees or something like that is by far one of the worst, least understandable movies i've ever seen. I didn't know what was going on, and was thoroughly pissed I wasted over an hour of my time on it.:mad:
I loved that movie! I knew every one of those characters. I guess you had to live in a dorm in the late 60's / early 70's and have a lot of stoned "Wow, man!" conversations to get it... but don't kids still do that these days?
Bloodlusty Barbarism
09-02-2008, 20:19
That movie's tagline should've been "Drugs are bad, m'kay?"
*eyes downcast* ... m'kay...
Click Stand;13435692']How can you go wrong with psychotic Nazi's who fight with chainsaws and swords?
I don't know, but they managed it. Big time. Fucking mess it was...
was anybody else here really confused by spirited away? I didn't understand anything about that movie. The events and characters seemed to just randomly happen/do things.
Evil Turnips
09-02-2008, 21:39
Magical Mystery Tour...
Rhursbourg
09-02-2008, 21:44
for me Final Fantasy
UN Protectorates
09-02-2008, 21:52
for me Final Fantasy
Spirits Within or Advent Children?
If you mean Advent Children, you ought to play the video game Final Fantasy VII.
Spirits Within would be more understandable. Cracking good movie though, in my opinion regardless.
The last Pirates of the Caribbean was a little confusing to say the least. The whole plot involved seedy alliances and double-triple-quadruple crosses between the cast, making it hard to follow. Not to mention some unneeded romantic exposition concerning the black witch person, Barbossa and Davey Jones.
I've watched Donnie Darko about ten times.
When did the time travelling take place? How does the jet engine killing him end up saving the world? Why did that wormhole open up?
I have no clue. But that movie ruled the first time I saw it and it's been ruling a little more ever since.
See the director's cut. It over-explains and the extra scenes actually makes the movie less good.
Rhursbourg
09-02-2008, 22:10
Spirits Within or Advent Children?
ooh Spirits Within and grand audience total of three on the day i went to see it
Every french movie.
Heh. No. But seriously, for weirdness try W.R.: Mysteries of the Organism, or Daisies, by Dusan Makavejev and Vera Chytilova respectively. If anyone else on the board's heard of them, they're legends.
Ooh, and slightly out of the art film world, try Kin Dza-dza; Russian 1980 comedy. Weird. But fun.
And for a preposterously good French film, try La Haine.
I loved that movie! I knew every one of those characters. I guess you had to live in a dorm in the late 60's / early 70's and have a lot of stoned "Wow, man!" conversations to get it... but don't kids still do that these days?
I do. You just need to know the very basics of Western philosophy to get that film. And to be honest, everyone should. I love the idea of "Existential Detectives".
I don't mind people slagging off movies because they genuinely make no sense whatsoever (*cough*Event Horizon), but criticising them because they themselves weren't catered for is a bit... yeah.
Cannot think of a name
09-02-2008, 23:03
Oh, yes. Carol Channing in her civvies. *shudder*
Marx firing up a blunt was pretty cool, but Otto has made far better films. He's kinda like the film version of Roman Polanski.
Well, yeah. I'm partial to Man With the Golden Arm, but the thread wasn't about the filmmaker's best work but films that don't make sense, that's a doozy.
And wouldn't Roman Polanski be a film version of Roman Polanski? :confused:
On the more mild end of not making much sense I'll give you two surrealist 70's 'car' movies:
Two Lane Blacktop, James Taylor (yes, mild mannered folk rocker James Taylor) as 'Driver' who arbitrarily gets in a cross country race with a Münchhausen-esque dude in a Pontiac GTO with a random chick along the way. The dialog for that movie could fit on an index card.
Vanishing Point, a man, with the help of a DJ who apparently can be heard from Denver to California from his small town radio station, becomes a folk hero by refusing to pull over for a traffic stop and the chase escalates until California puts bulldozers in the road. Through flashbacks we learn he was a good cop in a corrupt precinct and this some how justifies his pill popping high speed rampage. It does not explain why he has to be in San Francisco so quickly.
I actually love those movies, but they are anemic.
Fnordgasm 5
09-02-2008, 23:16
*blows up to 5 times normal size, growls threateningly*
Do not diss that movie!
*shrinks back*
If it doesn't make sense, that's because your feeble brain can't comprehend the awesomeness.
I would put forward the "Fast and Furious" movies.
I'm not saying it wasn't a great movie, I'm saying he gets crushed by a jet engine from the future!
What are some of the movies that doesn't even begin to make sense to you.
For me it would have to be "Pretty woman". Oh yea, a rich guy falls in love with a hooker and they begin a romantic engagement together. Yea that happens in real life allll the time.
Another one is "Maid in Manhattan". 1. I have never seen a Maid that looks that good, 2. this movie has the same problem with "Pretty Woman", a rich guy falls in love with a maid and they begin a romantic engagement together. Needless to say, I'm not a big fan of chick flicks. Now it your turn!
ironically I just saw part of that movie on USA last night :p
PelecanusQuicks
09-02-2008, 23:43
What are some of the movies that doesn't even begin to make sense to you.
For me it would have to be "Pretty woman". Oh yea, a rich guy falls in love with a hooker and they begin a romantic engagement together. Yea that happens in real life allll the time.
Another one is "Maid in Manhattan". 1. I have never seen a Maid that looks that good, 2. this movie has the same problem with "Pretty Woman", a rich guy falls in love with a maid and they begin a romantic engagement together. Needless to say, I'm not a big fan of chick flicks. Now it your turn!
Magnolia.
Made no sense why anyone would want to watch two hours of people who are completely dysfunctional. Such a waste of talent.
I don't mind people slagging off movies because they genuinely make no sense whatsoever (*cough*Event Horizon), but criticising them because they themselves weren't catered for is a bit... yeah.
Oi! OI!
Event Horizon not only made sense, but it was a good movie too. :cool:
Svalbardania
10-02-2008, 00:10
Strange - I felt the complete opposite. The Illusionist was simply boring and too predictable. The Prestige had some somewhat surprising plot twists and became more interesting because of the sci-fi element.
Indeed :D
Au contraire. To give some examples:
Taxi.
Léon.
Le Cinquième élément.
La Femme Nikita.
Ensemble, c'est tout.
Un long dimanche de fiançailles.
Le Grand bleu.
Les Visiteurs. (The original one ;))
Le Fabuleux destin d'Amélie Poulain.
Joyeux Noël.
The movie sucked. Really. It tried to be cool, but forgot about plot completely (kinda like the equally sucky Shoot'em Up) and then desperately tried to insert it in the last 15-30 minutes of the movie. Gah!
I want to forget I've ever seen it...
Aaah Gravlen, you are my identical film twin. I agree with everything you said...
Oi! OI!
Event Horizon not only made sense, but it was a good movie too.
...and then you lost me here :(
The Vuhifellian States
10-02-2008, 00:15
Dead End, for one; and every parody movie of all time that was made after Scary Movie 3.
Ruby City
10-02-2008, 00:19
The last Pirates of the Caribbean was a little confusing to say the least. The whole plot involved seedy alliances and double-triple-quadruple crosses between the cast, making it hard to follow. Not to mention some unneeded romantic exposition concerning the black witch person, Barbossa and Davey Jones.
The plot was circuitous but possible to follow as long as you didn't try to figure out which side people really where on other than their own. The fantasy aspects where way too ridiculous though, specially when Jack Sparrow (my favourite move character) runs after his ship that is being carried away by stones.
Svalbardania
10-02-2008, 00:28
The plot was circuitous but possible to follow as long as you didn't try to figure out which side people really where on other than their own. The fantasy aspects where way too ridiculous though, specially when Jack Sparrow (my favourite move character) runs after his ship that is being carried away by stones.
That whole scene in the desert, with the crab stone things and the multiple jack's and the ship and the peanut... that entire scene fits into my category of "fantastic scenes from mediocre films". I loved it, but the rest of the movie was just... eh.
Aaah Gravlen, you are my identical film twin. I agree with everything you said...
...and then you lost me here :(
Well one exception to the rule should be allowed, surely? ;)
AndyIsQuiteAwesome
10-02-2008, 02:05
1408.
It was just an evil room. There was no reason for it being evil, whatsoever. It was just evil.
Gigantic Leprechauns
10-02-2008, 02:31
Book of Shadows: Blair Witch 2, in addition to being a horrifically boring movie, made not one iota of sense.
CthulhuFhtagn
10-02-2008, 02:35
"Manos" Hands of Fate. At no point in that entire film was anything approximating a logical action or reaction taken.
VietnamSounds
10-02-2008, 03:40
"Manos" Hands of Fate. At no point in that entire film was anything approximating a logical action or reaction taken.SILENCE!
Has anyone seen that movie eraserhead? I wish I hadn't. I saw lynch give a speech about how he was screwed up until he started meditation. So I watched his movies, and he's still pretty screwed up. But don't tell him that.
I saw this movie called real genius where everyone is an enormous jerk for no reason. The main characters are supposed to be genius college students, but they're too stupid to figure out they're being "tricked" into building a huge killer laser beam. The entire movie they keep blowing random stuff up with the laser they're building, and they never figure it out? And why does the government want children building this thing anyway? They have people they pay to build this stuff and keep it a secret. At the end of the movie the kids use the laser to fill up some guys house with popcorn. Whatever. There's also a subplot about people cracking under pressure. What pressure? All they do is party and blow stuff up.
H N Fiddlebottoms VIII
10-02-2008, 05:09
Book of Shadows: Blair Witch 2, in addition to being a horrifically boring movie, made not one iota of sense.
The part of that movie that made the least sense was that there was neither a Book, nor a Shadow, nor a Book of Shadows anywhere in it. Yet, the title . . .
Ah well, at least there was a witch (I'm sorry, Wiccan), even if her only powers involved full-frontal nudity and wearing huge jewelry.
Mr. Brooks is such a ridiculous depiction serial killing, I don't even know what to say.
Intangelon
10-02-2008, 16:26
Okay, as I stated in a previous post, I had Donnie Darko come in Friday from Netflix. I watched it last night. The first thought that went through my head, right after "damn, Jena Malone grew up all nice and alluring", was -- "what's all the fuss about?"
The jet engine was supposed to end Donnie's world. The big, tortured-looking rabbit is his schizophrenic internal manifestation of the space-time phenomena that are converging in 28 days to rectify the fact that Donnie was spared...by his own delusion. I began to think that the delusion was like the stroke of genius that history's best minds receive before figuring out their particular invention or theory or what-have-you. The 28-day episode explains space-time and wormholes (with the use of special effects borrowed from The Abyss), and shows that Roberta Sparrow was on to something.
Aside from that little bit of interesting quasi-scientific chicanery, it was an 80s high school film set in the same mallified suburbia we've seen from Valley Girl through Ferris Bueller and the Pie-fucker films and even Mean Girls. Graham Greene makes a brief appearance, and we get the satirical martinet teacher with the God fetish and the law 'n order obsession, plus the pair of "cool" teachers who are young and pretty and edgy. We even get the clueless principal and the obligatory PTA meeting that calls them all together (Footloose, anyone?)
We get the straight-from-casting bully and his steroidal sidekick (admittedly, he's got a bit of Mexican drug lord in him, what with all the knife play), and the two geeky pals of the protagonist. I guess if I wanted to be really pissy, I could say that Donnie Darko is Weird Science, but re-cast and re-imagined as Weird Physics meets Weird Philosophy, but better, because I didn't have to sit through a movie trying to convince me that Kelly LeBrock is hot. A better soundtrack, too, if only because the music is there to enhance the scenes it's in as opposed to creating the tired 80s music video effect.
All in all, not a wasted 90 minutes, but nothing to get all culty about.
Cannot think of a name
10-02-2008, 19:02
I remember falling asleep in the theater during Dark City
Anti-Social Darwinism
10-02-2008, 21:03
The movie version of Hitchhiker's Guide to the Galaxy was totally senseless. The book(s) were brilliant, the movie was trash.
I might also add the Nicholas Cage remake of The Wicker Man. Genius, take a cult classic and turn it into dreck.
Intangelon
10-02-2008, 22:25
The movie version of Hitchhiker's Guide to the Galaxy was totally senseless. The book(s) were brilliant, the movie was trash.
And the original radio scripts (before the first two books were even books), are brilliant as well, in a different way. I just don't think that H2G2 was meant to be a visual experience.
Sirmomo1
10-02-2008, 22:28
Ed Wood 2: Zombie Ed Wood.
Chumblywumbly
10-02-2008, 22:31
I might also add the Nicholas Cage remake of The Wicker Man. Genius, take a cult classic and turn it into dreck.
Don’t.... get... me... started...
*fumes*
One of my favourite films, undoubtedly the best musical there is out there, and one of the best endings of a film in celluloid history.
And what does it get changed into? A misogynistic, nonsensical, bee-obsessed shite-pile. To top it all off, the producers of the re-make think that the audience can believe there exists an Amazonian-esque pagan community in modern-day US, but don’t think they can handle the concept of an adult man who’s also a virgin.
Thus killing off any point to the film whatsoever.
Pure pish.
What are some of the movies that doesn't even begin to make sense to you.
For me it would have to be "Pretty woman". Oh yea, a rich guy falls in love with a hooker and they begin a romantic engagement together. Yea that happens in real life allll the time.
Another one is "Maid in Manhattan". 1. I have never seen a Maid that looks that good, 2. this movie has the same problem with "Pretty Woman", a rich guy falls in love with a maid and they begin a romantic engagement together. Needless to say, I'm not a big fan of chick flicks. Now it your turn!
In terms of plot? Lost Highway. Total gibberish.
In the Mouth of Madness would be another one.
The movies you mentioned made sense. Huge plotholes, sure, but at least when you've finished watching you can tell someone else what happened. "This rich guy fell in love with a hooker." I've seen Lost Highway and no synopsis I could give you would even begin to explain what happens in that movie.
Amor Pulchritudo
11-02-2008, 00:41
What are some of the movies that doesn't even begin to make sense to you.
For me it would have to be "Pretty woman". Oh yea, a rich guy falls in love with a hooker and they begin a romantic engagement together. Yea that happens in real life allll the time.
Another one is "Maid in Manhattan". 1. I have never seen a Maid that looks that good, 2. this movie has the same problem with "Pretty Woman", a rich guy falls in love with a maid and they begin a romantic engagement together. Needless to say, I'm not a big fan of chick flicks. Now it your turn!
Both of those movies make perfect sense. Just because you don't think that the stories happen in real life (even though they do), doesn't mean the movie doesn't make sense. It's a fictional story, and Pretty Woman is a wonderful film.
Or how about "Saving private Ryan"; yeah right, like there's a world war going on in real life all the time.. A likely story, pfeh
I hope you're being sarcastic. Saving Private Ryan has the most versimilatude of any war movie.
I 'heart' Huckabees or something like that is by far one of the worst, least understandable movies i've ever seen. I didn't know what was going on, and was thoroughly pissed I wasted over an hour of my time on it.:mad:
I just think that you didn't get it.
Watch it again: It's a great movie.
most movies today are either based on a totally f***ing retarded premise, although the actuall sequence of events may be perfectly logical and sensible,
or are a stupid chick flick, and ocassionally a movie that is actually based on logical sense, sometimes movies make no sense in the least but turn out to be a good movie anyways(hot fuzz, Anyone?).
truth is most things that come from hollywood these days are fucked up beyond all repair. yet we as a society are so obsessed with that shit that wew spend all our time waiting to hear the latest celebrity gossip, not only is this the unhealthiest for of hero worship, it is also dumbing down our nation.
how else did kerry almost tie bush, how else does hillary have so goddamn much motherf***ing support? :mp5::sniper: :headbang: :upyours:
You're the epitome of a "dumbed down" individual. The fact that you think that most movies have a "retarded premise" and that "actual" has two "Ls" just proves your ignorance. The films shown in mainstream cinemas are supposed to appeal to the masses. The masses don't seem interested enough to understand a kooky arthouse film or a true story, so major movie theatres show films that are heavily advirtised, and purely for entertainment value.
Who's society are you thinking about? Do you automatically assume every single person is from th USA? I, personally, don't waste my time wanting to hear celebrity gossip.
You... Just... I am speechless. Do you really think that this: :sniper: is going to get people's attention? Columbine here we come.
This might not count but it makes no sense to me why so many people like the
Godfather trilogy. I found them to be extremely boring and pointless films.
They're epic! And definitely the best example of the crime/gangster genre.
Movies That just doesn't even begin to make Sense...
Fantasy Mission Force (http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0079509/)
I hope you're being sarcastic.I was :) Well, maybe more parodying.
And the original radio scripts (before the first two books were even books), are brilliant as well, in a different way. I just don't think that H2G2 was meant to be a visual experience.I didn't think it was so bad. None of the versions of the H2G2 are the same either, so it didn't bother me the movie was different as well. And Douglas Adams invented a few new things just for the movie, which was good as well.
Barringtonia
11-02-2008, 11:20
I saw this movie called real genius where everyone is an enormous jerk for no reason. The main characters are supposed to be genius college students, but they're too stupid to figure out they're being "tricked" into building a huge killer laser beam. The entire movie they keep blowing random stuff up with the laser they're building, and they never figure it out? And why does the government want children building this thing anyway? They have people they pay to build this stuff and keep it a secret. At the end of the movie the kids use the laser to fill up some guys house with popcorn. Whatever. There's also a subplot about people cracking under pressure. What pressure? All they do is party and blow stuff up.
Val Kilmer at his finest.
Sometimes, when I watch movies like that, among others, I just wonder how they pitched the movie. I wonder who bought it, who thought it might be a good investment. It really brings to mind The Producers and you wonder how many films really are made to lose money because there's simply no other reason to commit such crap to celluloid.
However, to really enjoy senselessness, a good dose of Bollywood is in order - the plot is most often an afterthought tacked onto a series of dance sequences.
Then there's the lower end of some Cantonese films - I recently watched one where, towards the final 20 minutes, you could almost hear the director suddenly blurting out - oh shit, we forgot about the plot!
Signs: An intelligent race of aliens who's one weakness is to water comes to a planet 70% covered in the stuff.
War of the Worlds: Ooh bacteria killed 'em.
Independence Day: 1) A ship that size falling out of the sky would release a massive amount of energy, to say nothing of any onboard fuel (presumably anti-matter). 2) An air-to-air missile would do jack shit to a city size ship shields or no shields. 3) The aliens lack clocks?
Peepelonia
11-02-2008, 13:29
It's called "Never been interested in that shit, Never will".
Heh so what you mean is 'makes no sense to me'.
Chumblywumbly
11-02-2008, 13:34
The aliens lack clocks?
And have a computer system compatible with Jeff Golblum’s laptop?
War of the Worlds: Ooh bacteria killed 'em.Because there would be no historical precedent (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Biological_warfare#The_17th_century) for something like that happening.
Rambhutan
11-02-2008, 13:54
M Night Charlatan's The Village and pretty much every film he has made apart from the first two.
AI
xXx (probably just bad but it made no sense whatsoever to me)
Peepelonia
11-02-2008, 13:56
M Night Charlatan's The Village and pretty much every film he has made apart from the first two.
AI
xXx (probably just bad but it made no sense whatsoever to me)
Ohh it made sense, it was a bit crap, but it made sense.
Neo Bretonnia
11-02-2008, 14:21
Solaris. The one starring George Clooney. (Never saw the old one.)
I've seen this movie over and over and it just... makes no sense.
I think maybe the movie isn't supposed to, on some level. One of those movies that takes strangeness and imagery to make an artistic point rather than one that justifies the time and expense to watch it.
Meh.
Neo Bretonnia
11-02-2008, 14:23
Signs: An intelligent race of aliens who's one weakness is to water comes to a planet 70% covered in the stuff.
War of the Worlds: Ooh bacteria killed 'em.
Independence Day: 1) A ship that size falling out of the sky would release a massive amount of energy, to say nothing of any onboard fuel (presumably anti-matter). 2) An air-to-air missile would do jack shit to a city size ship shields or no shields. 3) The aliens lack clocks?
Oh if you want to go that route... Find that website where an in-depth analysis is conducted of the effects on the Sanctuary Moon of Endor when an object as large and massive as Death Start II exploding in low orbit...
Peepelonia
11-02-2008, 14:25
It's not a film, but I guess some sort of series that I watched a bit of on TV yesterday.
King Solomone's Mines. It looked like Patrick Swazeys brother had the lead in it, playing Alan Quatermaine, who for those not in the know is supposed to be a crack shot.
Soooooo anyhoo, after witnessing the third shootout scene between Quatermaine and his cronnies, and 'the bad guys' in which the crack shoot, didn't hit anybody, I totaly geeked out and switched the channel in a geeky huff, bloody unrealsitic crap that it was.
Aegis Firestorm
11-02-2008, 16:10
In case this hasn't been nominated yet: Akira.
Huh, what? Government project, pissed-off bikers, 80 year-old little kids, the "WTF" list goes on...
In case this hasn't been nominated yet: Akira.
Huh, what? Government project, pissed-off bikers, 80 year-old little kids, the "WTF" list goes on...Thanks a lot. :mad:
I've been trying to forget I ever saw that for years now.
Hachihyaku
11-02-2008, 16:18
*wacks*
Hachihyaku sleeps with the fishes
Really now, those films where absolutely terrible!
And have a computer system compatible with Jeff Golblum’s laptop?
You can handwave that by saying the government had the ship for 50 years, maybe it's the basis of our computer tech. Yeah it's flimsy.
Oh if you want to go that route... Find that website where an in-depth analysis is conducted of the effects on the Sanctuary Moon of Endor when an object as large and massive as Death Start II exploding in low orbit...
Endor holocaust, read about it. Evil rebel bastards knew it'd happen too.
Aegis Firestorm
11-02-2008, 16:20
Thanks a lot. :mad:
I've been trying to forget I ever saw that for years now.
And its not that I don't like it, I thought the animation was nicely done and, well, I just *love* mayhem, so there were enough explosions and random killing to make me happy, its just that it made such little sense. Maybe the source material was better?
Hachihyaku
11-02-2008, 16:21
They're epic! And definitely the best example of the crime/gangster genre.
No there not! There dullness and bad script fitted into a trilogy. Even the Devil's Advocate was more interesting.
Intangelon
11-02-2008, 16:27
In terms of plot? Lost Highway. Total gibberish.
In the Mouth of Madness would be another one.
The movies you mentioned made sense. Huge plotholes, sure, but at least when you've finished watching you can tell someone else what happened. "This rich guy fell in love with a hooker." I've seen Lost Highway and no synopsis I could give you would even begin to explain what happens in that movie.
AGREED!!! Lynch, already unstable, was out of his karked-up little mind on that film. He strikes me as the kind of kid who burns or destroys stuff "just to see what would happen", but on film instead of in the living room. The results, while not similarly destructive, are equally disasterous.
Both of those movies make perfect sense. Just because you don't think that the stories happen in real life (even though they do), doesn't mean the movie doesn't make sense. It's a fictional story, and Pretty Woman is a wonderful film.
I hope you're being sarcastic. Saving Private Ryan has the most versimilatude of any war movie.
You're the epitome of a "dumbed down" individual. The fact that you think that most movies have a "retarded premise" and that "actual" has two "Ls" just proves your ignorance. The films shown in mainstream cinemas are supposed to appeal to the masses. The masses don't seem interested enough to understand a kooky arthouse film or a true story, so major movie theatres show films that are heavily advirtised, and purely for entertainment value.
Who's society are you thinking about? Do you automatically assume every single person is from th USA? I, personally, don't waste my time wanting to hear celebrity gossip.
You... Just... I am speechless. Do you really think that this: :sniper: is going to get people's attention? Columbine here we come.
They're epic! And definitely the best example of the crime/gangster genre.
Ye without syntactical or grammatical sin (see bolded bits) may cast the first stone. Put the rock down, junior.
Also, this bit:
I just think that you didn't get it.
Watch it again: It's a great movie.
Yeah, that's why I hate films like Barton Fink, Eraserhead and pretty much everything directors like David Lynch and Quentin Tarantino make. I'm sorry, but if the film didn't sink into my head, that's not always my head's fault. You don't have to be "the epitome of a 'dumbed-down individual'" (which is a certifiable flame, by the way; I'd watch that if I were you) to not understand a film with esoteric references, convoluted plotlines and deliberate non-sequiturs. You can think someone is dumb for not sharing your taste in or understanding of an artform, but actually calling someone dumb for not liking what you like is just plain arrogant.
I didn't think it was so bad. None of the versions of the H2G2 are the same either, so it didn't bother me the movie was different as well. And Douglas Adams invented a few new things just for the movie, which was good as well.
Agreed completely. Adams admitted that every incarnation of H2G2 was different by design. I like that idea. Plus, we got to look at the delectable Zooey Deschanel for 100+ minutes. Fine with me!
Intangelon
11-02-2008, 16:32
It's not a film, but I guess some sort of series that I watched a bit of on TV yesterday.
King Solomone's Mines. It looked like Patrick Swazeys brother had the lead in it, playing Alan Quatermaine, who for those not in the know is supposed to be a crack shot.
Soooooo anyhoo, after witnessing the third shootout scene between Quatermaine and his cronnies, and 'the bad guys' in which the crack shoot, didn't hit anybody, I totaly geeked out and switched the channel in a geeky huff, bloody unrealsitic crap that it was.
The actor in question is Richard Chamberlain (http://www.imdb.com/name/nm0000328/) -- and legions of fantasizing women in their 50s and 60s would hang you for dissing him. The Thorn Birds alone was probably responsible for many children born late in those women's reproductive years...in or out of their marriages.
Hachihyaku
11-02-2008, 16:34
To be honest, I'm still waiting for someone to pop in and say "Schindler's List: The Nazis, they're displayed as bad people! It makes no sense... :("
Schlinder's list was ... Well idk why they bothered with it.
To be honest, I'm still waiting for someone to pop in and say "Schindler's List: The Nazis, they're displayed as bad people! It makes no sense... :("
Intangelon
11-02-2008, 16:42
Schlinder's list was ... Well idk why they bothered with it.
Okay, now I'm thinking about letting Amor Pulchritudo off the hook for pillorying you. You don't know why they bothered to make Schindler's List? At this point, you're being deliberately contrary to get a rise out of people.
Schlinder's list was ... Well idk why they bothered with it.Wow, someone actually did! And for the reasons I anticipated!
Okay, now I'm thinking about letting Amor Pulchritudo off the hook for pillorying you. You don't know why they bothered to make Schindler's List? At this point, you're being deliberately contrary to get a rise out of people.
Yeah, well, in the case of Schindler's list... (http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showpost.php?p=13350183&postcount=77)
I don't think there are any real life examples of cursed pirates turning into walking skeletons...
Depends on the kind of pirate.. I hear the RIAA is moving away from the courts in favor of punitive voodoo.
Rambhutan
11-02-2008, 17:11
I had a bigger beef with the fact that the female pirates looked like women, which, according to the "code" weren't allowed on board, there is only one instance of, in the history of piracy in the Spanish main.
According to the lyrics of many a folk song it is quite clear that nearly every sailor and soldier was a woman dressed as a man.
I had a bigger beef with the fact that the female pirates looked like women, which, according to the "code" weren't allowed on board, there is only one instance of, in the history of piracy in the Spanish main.
I can think of two offhand.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anne_Bonny
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mary_Read
I don't think there are any real life examples of cursed pirates turning into walking skeletons,...
I had a bigger beef with the fact that the female pirates looked like women, which, according to the "code" weren't allowed on board, there is only one instance of, in the history of piracy in the Spanish main.
A couple of weeks ago I saw a movie from the dune book, it lasted about a hour and a half in which they tried to put waaaaaay to much story. You could also 'hear' the thoughts of the actors, which was bad. One of the worst/weirdest movies I've ever seen.
Chumblywumbly
11-02-2008, 18:56
You can handwave that by saying the government had the ship for 50 years, maybe it's the basis of our computer tech. Yeah it's flimsy.
Pffft.
Endor holocaust, read about it. Evil rebel bastards knew it'd happen too.
And the idea that there no innocents on board, as propagated by Clerks, seems rather flimsy too.
Knights of Liberty
11-02-2008, 19:02
Okay, now I'm thinking about letting Amor Pulchritudo off the hook for pillorying you. You don't know why they bothered to make Schindler's List? At this point, you're being deliberately contrary to get a rise out of people.
Are you shocked? Not only did he dislike the Godfather movies (disliking the first two is a clear show of a lack of taste) but this is the guy who constantly talks about "ebil moslams" and spams out of context quotes about Obama's supposid racism.
He probably thinks the Holocaust is just a Jewish conspiricy.
Bloodlusty Barbarism
11-02-2008, 23:16
Oh, and Passion of the Christ.
Aside from my not understanding the entertainment value of a man being tortured for two hours, I also had trouble understanding what those Mexicans were saying.
Oh boy. I'm gonna get killed for that one.
Bloodlusty Barbarism
11-02-2008, 23:19
And the idea that there no innocents on board, as propagated by Clerks, seems rather flimsy too.
George Lucas was asked about that. He said it was just a bunch of those wasp-alien-things from Episode II working on the Death Star, no innocent people. Like stepping on an ant colony. No one cares about the little flying guys :(
By the way, please don't ask me why I know that.
George Lucas was asked about that. He said it was just a bunch of those wasp-alien-things from Episode II working on the Death Star, no innocent people. Like stepping on an ant colony. No one cares about the little flying guys :(
By the way, please don't ask me why I know that.
Geonosians, they developed the plans for the first one. And they would've been innocents, they were enslaved much like the wookies.
Smunkeeville
11-02-2008, 23:43
I saw a film at festival last year, and it was one of those "lets jump around at random and not distinguish actual plot points from dreams" ones and I am still like "WTH?!" my husband and I debated as to what actually happened in the movie and what it was about, we saw the film maker after and asked some questions but he wasn't coherent.....damn 12am showings.
I never got, in that movie about the zombies...which one is it? hmm.... oh, Shaun of the dead, like the zombies are killing people and then suddenly they are gardening, I feel like a really important scene got cut.
George Lucas was asked about that. He said it was just a bunch of those wasp-alien-things from Episode II working on the Death Star, no innocent people. Like stepping on an ant colony. No one cares about the little flying guys :(
By the way, please don't ask me why I know that.
That's specism! Just because they're insectoid they don't count? They're sentient, they got larvae to feed just like everyone else!
Sumamba Buwhan
11-02-2008, 23:51
A race of intergalactic-traveling Ebonics-speaking robot electronics-mimics that can change shape and size and functionality but can't repair themselves (not even the robot dedicated to repairing the other robots can fix anything).
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The Cube
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The Three Amigos... j/k that is one solid plot right there.
[NS]I BEFRIEND CHESTNUTS
12-02-2008, 00:06
Un chien andalou (You can watch it here (http://www.ubu.com/film/bunuel.html)), a 16-minute surrealist silent film from 1928. Created in France by Luis Buñuel and Salvador Dalí. Makes no sense whatsoever, though it obviously doesn't attempt to.
Annieness
12-02-2008, 00:07
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The end of Artificial Intelligence...
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the poor teddy :(
Hachihyaku
12-02-2008, 01:01
Okay, now I'm thinking about letting Amor Pulchritudo off the hook for pillorying you. You don't know why they bothered to make Schindler's List? At this point, you're being deliberately contrary to get a rise out of people.
I understand the reasons behind it but why make a film about it...
CthulhuFhtagn
12-02-2008, 01:03
And its not that I don't like it, I thought the animation was nicely done and, well, I just *love* mayhem, so there were enough explosions and random killing to make me happy, its just that it made such little sense. Maybe the source material was better?
Far better. Also, it really depends on whether you say the 199-whatever dub or the 2001 dub. The former was completely incoherent and stupid, due to the guy who got the license. The latter explained stuff and was coherent.
Hachihyaku
12-02-2008, 01:03
Oh, and Passion of the Christ.
Aside from my not understanding the entertainment value of a man being tortured for two hours, I also had trouble understanding what those Mexicans were saying.
Oh boy. I'm gonna get killed for that one.
I watched that, i agree with your surmise.
Hachihyaku
12-02-2008, 01:05
Are you shocked? Not only did he dislike the Godfather movies (disliking the first two is a clear show of a lack of taste) but this is the guy who constantly talks about "ebil moslams" and spams out of context quotes about Obama's supposid racism.
He probably thinks the Holocaust is just a Jewish conspiricy.
I find it quiet distasteful that you consider the films to be good, its several hours of boredom; and no i do not go on about the Muslims, when have i?
And before you make any more assumptions i do not deny the holocaust, do you?
Amor Pulchritudo
12-02-2008, 01:34
I was :) Well, maybe more parodying.
Good. Just checking...
Ye without syntactical or grammatical sin (see bolded bits) may cast the first stone. Put the rock down, junior.
Oh, puh-lease. You can not compare my gramatical errors to this person's idiocy.
Okay, now I'm thinking about letting Amor Pulchritudo off the hook for pillorying you. You don't know why they bothered to make Schindler's List? At this point, you're being deliberately contrary to get a rise out of people.
Oh thank you. I was so worried about being on the metaphorical "hook" in the first place.
Are you shocked? Not only did he dislike the Godfather movies (disliking the first two is a clear show of a lack of taste) but this is the guy who constantly talks about "ebil moslams" and spams out of context quotes about Obama's supposid racism.
He probably thinks the Holocaust is just a Jewish conspiricy.
He probably does.
And he'll probably reply with "Jewz :mp5:"
Alien vs. Predator is about a team of scientists who go on an expedition to Antarctica. When the scientists arrive at this desolate place they pull out enough weapons for a small army. I mean the scientists don't know that they will run into aliens and need the weapons so why did they bring them? Did they plan to declare war on the penguins?
I think it made less sense no one appeared to be cold at all, or in anycase have visable breathe...
And how the HELL did a small town get in the Antartic?
Mereselt
12-02-2008, 01:38
Country bears. Stupidest peice of crap ever.
Knights of Liberty
12-02-2008, 03:44
I find it quiet distasteful that you consider the films to be good, its several hours of boredom; and no i do not go on about the Muslims, when have i?
And before you make any more assumptions i do not deny the holocaust, do you?
On Saudi Arabia banning any Valintine's Day related item...
How very Islamic of them
Thats just the one freshest in my memory.
Xenophobialand
12-02-2008, 03:47
Not that they aren't good movies in and of themselves, and not that I don't sometimes quote them, but I've never seen more incomprehensible movies than The Wall and Fear and Loathing in Las Vegas. Comprehensibility was beside the point with these two works, but it was still quite difficult to hear the proverbial the music through the blizzard of discordant notes; it was like the visual equivalent of a Philip Glass concert for me.
More conventionally, Bridget Jones's Diary was a bit incomprehensible for the very simple reason that it danced completely around why Bridget Jones is unhappy: she's a whiny, self-absorbed princess who, unbeknownst to her, lacks the talent or good looks to realistically qualify for the great guy/life-counselor/self-esteem-coach that she gets in her life. If you want to get down with a great guy, then grow a figurative pair, read some books, and get on a treadmill. It isn't that hard.
I can think of two offhand.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anne_Bonny
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mary_ReadYeah, now tell me what they looked like. Anne Bonny is the only pirate I know of that actually sailed as a woman, and that was only during a time when Calico Jack forced his crew to accept it. Other than that, they dressed up as men.
Chumblywumbly
12-02-2008, 16:23
George Lucas was asked about that. He said it was just a bunch of those wasp-alien-things from Episode II working on the Death Star, no innocent people. Like stepping on an ant colony. No one cares about the little flying guys :(
Apart from the uselessnes of not attributing innocence to non-humans (part of the whole xenophobic theme that runs through-out the Star Wars franchise), it's contradicted AFAIK by a recent, canon, book (http://www.amazon.co.uk/Death-Star-Random-House-Hardcover/dp/0345477421) that talks about the construction of the Death Star and the people who work(ed) on it.
Aegis Firestorm
12-02-2008, 18:59
Far better. Also, it really depends on whether you say the 199-whatever dub or the 2001 dub. The former was completely incoherent and stupid, due to the guy who got the license. The latter explained stuff and was coherent.
I saw them both. I think the first was late 80's wasn't it? The more recent dub is better, but after trying to piece it together from the first one, I was annoyed about the whole damn thing. Sadly enough, the animation was good enough to get me interested in other anime.
Intangelon
13-02-2008, 00:09
Yeah, well, in the case of Schindler's list... (http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showpost.php?p=13350183&postcount=77)
Aha. I see. A StormFronter. 'Nuff said.
I understand the reasons behind it but why make a film about it...
Why not? Why make a film about anything? The holocaust is -- dare I say it -- at least mildly compelling, isn't it?
Oh, puh-lease. You can not compare my gramatical errors to this person's idiocy.
I can, and I did. If you're going to base your assumption of stupidity solely on someone's typing or grammar skills, you had better be on top of your own. Otherwise, it makes you look more foolish than the person you're trying to slag, whether that person deserves the slagging or not.
Oh thank you. I was so worried about being on the metaphorical "hook" in the first place.
I can tell. Flop sweat comes across online quite nicely.
Look, all I'm saying is that you've got a post history of pointing out even miniscule spelling errors in others' posts and then trumpeting them like it's some gigantic character flaw. If you're going to play that game, your posts need to be beyond reproach, that's all.
Bloodlusty Barbarism
19-02-2008, 04:26
Apart from the uselessnes of not attributing innocence to non-humans (part of the whole xenophobic theme that runs through-out the Star Wars franchise), it's contradicted AFAIK by a recent, canon, book (http://www.amazon.co.uk/Death-Star-Random-House-Hardcover/dp/0345477421) that talks about the construction of the Death Star and the people who work(ed) on it.
My shame consumes me.
CthulhuFhtagn
19-02-2008, 04:34
Alien vs. Predator is about a team of scientists who go on an expedition to Antarctica. When the scientists arrive at this desolate place they pull out enough weapons for a small army. I mean the scientists don't know that they will run into aliens and need the weapons so why did they bring them? Did they plan to declare war on the penguins?
Obviously they were afraid of shoggoths.
Sel Appa
19-02-2008, 05:24
The Matrix