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I always wondered when people thought World War III would happen and of course everybody knows what kind of warfare it would be Global Thermal nuclear Warfare. So when do you guys think it will happen?

2012 or never.

I've already predicted it will happen about the year 2030

I always wondered when people thought World War III would happen and of course everybody knows what kind of warfare it would be Global Thermal nuclear Warfare. So when do you guys think it will happen?

It won't. Terrorism, international finance, and close quarters urban slaughterfests are the way of the future now.

21:52 (GMT + 10:00) 17/08/2014.

I'd like to be more accurate, but that's as precise a time as the leprechauns will give me.

It won't. Terrorism, international finance, and close quarters urban slaughterfests are the way of the future now.

Wrong. That's what people were saying after WW1 and the world was degenerating into small revolutionary type wars.

It will probably start within the next eight years if Barack Obama is not elected president of the United States, but won't escalate to a global scale till after that, and maybe not nuclear at all.

But definitely a terror war (I meant both sides using terrors)

I think we're starting to see the beginning of World War III. USA is fighting Iraq, Russia is trying to relive the glory days of the Cold War, and China is up to something, there's no way they aren't thinking about throwing their weight around now they have economic prosperity.

The Clock is ticking and every second the fuse is getting shorter.

2020, between China and the US and whoever joins them.

I predict the main belligerents will be Liechtenstein, Costa Rica, and Swaziland. Keep an eye on those three, or there will be trouble. :eek:

Not going to happen as long as the USA is the world superpower.

Unless they end up starting the war, of course.

Not going to happen as long as the USA is the world superpower.

Wrong. That's what people were saying after WW1 and the world was degenerating into small revolutionary type wars.Way different world today.... hell there were still colonial empires after WWI. TLO has it right... there never will be another 'world' war. No group or country wants to anihlate itself along with an enemy... especially those most able to do so. Small vicious wars in third world countries are much safer and way more profitable. The major players will blunder into 'safe' little wars that might turn into quagmires with some attrition of military forces (haven't we seen that enough in the last couple of decades..) but none of them are gonna hit someone who could bring a war back to their home turf (by conventional means). Even India and Pakistan will never get beyond the border squirmish and chest thumping state because both sides know that if they degrade to slugging it out even the winner will probably never recover to it's prewar state.

Bottom line, the guys who make international policy have way more to lose than a bunch of teenage computer geeks who like to fantasize about such things and they simply will do everything they can to keep it from happening. A certain amount of world turmoil is good for the bottom line, but large wars get messy and cost too much.

2020, between China and the US and whoever joins them.

I join China...

Not going to happen as long as the USA is the world superpower.

This was a joke, right?

Bottom line, the guys who make international policy

But wait, you do know that in some countries that can include someone like George W. Bush? :(

We would be lucky to have a computer geek. Don't be so optimistic.

32nd of Never.

Ah yes another 'post then run' thread where the OP goes away without any sources for discussion, leaving vast amounts of speculation where someone will eventually veer near the dangerous waters of "gun control" or "US foriegn policy" or "Welfare state".

Well i'll respond anyway.
I'm not sure about there being another World War, but all it needs is another Dictator to take power of USA, China, Russia, Japan (or some other powerful country) make a few aggressive moves, then it's back to bombing each other.

I doubt Nuclear weapons would be used (only by insane terrorists) as even during the Cold War neither side was keen to use them (but instead they invested in proxy wars, which messed up several smaller countries).

Even if there was a war between to large powers (or groups of countries) it's unlikely they would last very long.

So i vote no World War, but potential for lots of smaller conflicts.

But wait, you do know that in some countries that can include someone like George W. Bush? :(

We would be lucky to have a computer geek. Don't be so optimistic.
You don't think the Shrub is actually running the show do you? Yeah, he's the figurehead but do you think Cheney and the rest of the pack would trust him to go for a six-pack unescorted? Politicians are only a small part of those who make policy.

China won't start something with us...they have too vested an economic interest in our continued survival. And the Chinese financial managers don't like taking risks, which is why they take their profits and put them into U.S. Treasury Notes.

I predict that the Russian Federation will turn into the Soviet Union again in this year of 2008, that will cause a lot of problems.

You don't think the Shrub is actually running the show do you? Yeah, he's the figurehead but do you think Cheney and the rest of the pack would trust him to go for a six-pack unescorted? Politicians are only a small part of those who make policy.

Yeah, and boy did they show good judgment when it came to Iraq.:rolleyes:

EDIT: The 'they' refers to those who make policy.

China won't start something with us...they have too vested an economic interest in our continued survival. And the Chinese financial managers don't like taking risks, which is why they take their profits and put them into U.S. Treasury Notes.

Yeah, but these days, investing in the US is a risk, with the dollar going down like a hooker in the heat.

Wait, is that a phrase?:confused:

Yeah, and boy did they show good judgment when it came to Iraq.:rolleyes:

EDIT: The 'they' refers to those who make policy.Depends on your perspective... some people got very rich... er, richer from the whole Iraq debaucle. There's still a lot of money being made...

kind of brings us back to why there will never be another 'world' war...

Never. If one were to come it would have been during the cold war. Even a war between China and US over Taiwan would "only" remain a large scale pacific war.

WWI was called the Great War until WWII came along. WWII was caused mainly by actions at the end of WWI, so it was deemed a "sequel" to the Great War.
Unless something at the end of WWII is taking a really long time to come into effect, there won't ever be a WWIII since it won't be a sequel to anything. There may be another global war, but it won't be a World War.

(Unless people are stupid and call it "World War III" for no reason, which wouldn't be all that surprising.)

Did you not notice the cold war. It was in response to the end of WWII and involved pretty much the entire world. We are now moving into WWIV, the terrorism war. The nuclear war will also be called the apocalypse.

Depends on your perspective... some people got very rich... er, richer from the whole Iraq debaucle. There's still a lot of money being made...

kind of brings us back to why there will never be another 'world' war...

What if a profit was to be made with a new World War. WWII kick-started the US economy after the Great Depression, didn't it?

Did you not notice the cold war. It was in response to the end of WWII and involved pretty much the entire world.
It's not my fault no one thought to call it WWIII.

"Cold War" is a better name, anyway.

China is up to something, there's no way they aren't thinking about throwing their weight around now they have economic prosperity.

The Clock is ticking and every second the fuse is getting shorter.

Did you know that China's owns 30% of one of the two Tin and Aluminium production companies? And that company is bidding for the takeover of the other, they biopolize (is that the right word?) the market at that (and will soon become a monopoly as well).

Also around a third of the world's tin is mined from China. Oh yes, and there's a world shortage on tin (why the cornish tin mines are being re-opened within the next 10 years).

China won't risk a war though, peacetime's set to be too profitable for them, so they'll likely overshadow the US's economy very soon. A threatened US might find an excuse for a short war to flex muscles and all that, but not a nuclear war as they'll still be fairly important.

Any major disagreements?:cool:

It is logical that it would be better for politicians and companies to not destroy other countries and potential customers and allies during next world war, but reason is very poor counter to faith, emotions etc.

Any major disagreements?:cool:

Well other than the fact that they want Tawain under control, but the US has promised to defend it, and that China will probably under go a revolution in the next 10-20 years because of the after effects of the Cultural revolution which created a society of Moaist peasants which make up most of chine's millitary. If China tries to become a completely capitalist, The millitary will under take a coup.

Get it right... it's not World War III, it's World War Z.

Get it right... it's not World War III, it's World War Z.

Keep your chainsaws and shotguns close at hand children.

Keep your chainsaws and shotguns close at hand children.

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The rat terriers will inherit the Earth. ;)

:fluffle:

The rat terriers will inherit the Earth. ;)

I hate those things.

I always wondered when people thought World War III would happen and of course everybody knows what kind of warfare it would be Global Thermal nuclear Warfare. So when do you guys think it will happen?

I'm pegging it on the 34th of Juvember 202,305 CE

I'm pegging the start of the Resource Wars somewhere around 2025. Earlier if the potable water crisis keeps worsening, maybe a little later if we get the lead out and start de-emphasizing oil.

Russia may want to be great again. I will help them! Long live the Motherland!

I always wondered when people thought World War III would happen and of course everybody knows what kind of warfare it would be Global Thermal nuclear Warfare. So when do you guys think it will happen?

If the Coalition of the Willing was as Rumsfeld hyped it up to be ("The Greatest Coalition the world has ever seen"), then I'd say that we are in WWIII now. But, nope.

I'm pegging the start of the Resource Wars somewhere around 2025. Earlier if the potable water crisis keeps worsening, maybe a little later if we get the lead out and start de-emphasizing oil.

I'd say 2020-2030 time frame, but yeah, I agree with your guess.

I always wondered when people thought World War III would happen and of course everybody knows what kind of warfare it would be Global Thermal nuclear Warfare. So when do you guys think it will happen?

World War 3 already happened in 1991, when coalition forces pushed Iraq out of Kuwait. World War 4 might involve nukes however (although I really hope not).

World War 3 already happened in 1991, when coalition forces pushed Iraq out of Kuwait. World War 4 might involve nukes however (although I really hope not).
How on earth can you call Gulf War WW3? It didn't have any chracteristics of a world war. More likely a model example of a quick reqional war.

How on earth can you call Gulf War WW3? It didn't have any chracteristics of a world war. More likely a model example of a quick reqional war.

Totally true that was a regional war to help Kuwait get the Iraqis out of their country and after Iraq had no control over any part of Kuwait, the US coalition just let them be. But I think World War III will happen on June 6, 2026

How on earth can you call Gulf War WW3? It didn't have any chracteristics of a world war. More likely a model example of a quick reqional war.

Well, Afghanistan, Argentina, Australia, Bahrain, Bangladesh, Belgium, Canada, Czechoslovakia, Denmark, Egypt, France, Greece, Italy, Kuwait, Morocco, Netherlands, New Zealand, Niger, Norway, Oman, Pakistan, Poland, Portugal, Qatar, Saudi Arabia, Senegal, South Korea, Spain, Syria, Turkey, United Arab Emirates, United Kingdom and the United States of America were involved in the coalition, Germany and Japan provided financial assistance and donated military hardware, and India extended military support to the United States in the form of refueling facilities situated in the Arabian Sea. Oh, and Iraq was involved on the Opposition side.

That's a lot of countries involved for it not to be a World war (37 countries total).

Those countries mostly supported the U.S. coalition in which they gave money and support but didn't really do any fighting. Also they didn't really declare war on Iraq, those countries were the UN. And since the UN declared Iraq was not good they supported the US. The UN was also part of the Korean War but you didn't see over a billion troops from over 40 countries it was mostly the US and South Korea vs. North Korea and China

If Obama wins the presidency (or Hillary) 2009. If not, whenever the U.S. dissolves.

If it happens, late 21st or early 22nd century. Right now, the circumstances aren't right. Nobody has the method and motivation to fight a sustained war with the US. But that could change.

World War III when do you think it will happen?The most probable scenario -if there is one-
President Maccain starts some serious shit with Iran.

I'm pegging it on the 34th of Juvember 202,305 CE

Dammit, that's on my birthday.

That's a lot of countries involved for it not to be a World war (37 countries total).

World Wars aren't just about how many countries are involved, it's where the fighting is. During WWI and WWII, there were galleries of war all over the globe.

World Wars aren't just about how many countries are involved, it's where the fighting is. During WWI and WWII, there were galleries of war all over the globe.

Exactly but if there is World War III its better than getting hit with a comet.

the question isn't so much when OR if, that's all mostly hidden dice rolls, but why in the hell do so damd many idiots seem to WANT it?

i know i sure don't, and i don't see how anybody with half a brain could.
yes i know reality doesn't depend too much on what i want, but does the unholly aliance of pseudo-conservative fanatacism and organized corporate crime REALLY think it's going to get THAT much out of it?

there going to hide in what bunkers until the dust has settled? with the bunker busters they've insisted on bringing to market?

like hellowoow? any body sane in here/out there?

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Emm, a holy war between liberalist and neo-cons in the nearly-dethroned superpower nation should do the WW3, and we all know this war has begun since... when?

Emm, a holy war between liberalist and neo-cons in the nearly-dethroned superpower nation should do the WW3, and we all know this war has begun since... when?

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six months after the end of wwii, with isenhour's iron curtain and cold war.

at least its been going on all of my 60 years of life.

why is it always with the swords?

i mean their exciting and all, but not half as gratifying as exploring mazes. i think all the swords and battle crap just detract from that.

well you know, in the 60s people started waking up and realizing superpowers weren't anything very much at all like what they were pretending to be, what the neo-cons are still trying to con everyone into pretending they are.

but you know, all the swords and guns just keeps feeding into keeping the same circular illogic going around and around.

people in the 60s and 70s realized that too, maybe even a few brave souls in the 50s, who where immediately 'black-listed' dared they to speak up.

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Maybe the US might invade Iran, Russia restarts th Cold War, China invades Taiwan, North Korea invades the South, who knows where it will end.....

Get it right... it's not World War III, it's World War Z.

LOL!

Considering the conflict in the Middle East, added in with tension between Russia and the United States...and Russia and Japan...Russia and Ukraine...Russia seems to be a problem. Damn commies. ;)

So basically...As I see it, this is how things will pan out:

Japan, US, Ukraine, Poland, Turkey, England vs Iran, Iraqi insurgents, Afghan insurgents, North Korea, Russia

Anyone wanna take any bids, or add any countries?

I always wondered when people thought World War III would happen and of course everybody knows what kind of warfare it would be Global Thermal nuclear Warfare. So when do you guys think it will happen?


WW3 was due to occur in 1974, but got cancelled because of economic problems.

However (and whenever) WW3 actually starts, you can be sure it will start with a small scale stupid act (such as hezzbullah snatching a couple of Israelies from the Israeli side of the border) and it will snowball from there until the big boys are eyeball to eyeball with all their weapons being deployed.

However , afterwards, it will take quite a long time and effort to analyse which smoking radioactive hole in the ground is the winner and which is the loser :p

Frankly I am tired of all these sequels.

I always wondered when people thought World War III would happen and of course everybody knows what kind of warfare it would be Global Thermal nuclear Warfare. So when do you guys think it will happen?

Global thermonuclear war? Never.

Thursday...

World War Three was an economic, ideological, memetic, and proxy war fought between 1946 and 1991.

Winner? "Win" is such an outmoded term in this kind of warfare, obsolete. Let's just say that we came through with some advantageous positions.

World War IV is the struggle between cosmopolitan, secular humanist civilization and traditional islamic civilization, with the remaining non-secular western cultures, primarily Indian Hindu traditionalists and Western Christian and Jewish traditionalists, winding up on the secular side by default.

The outcome is still in doubt. We will know by the end of the century.

Btw, the Napoleonic Wars should be named "WW-Zero". They were fought by all major powers of the time (with the sole exception of China), by empires who spanned on more than one continent, and on three continents (Europe, Africa and America - the 1812 british-american war is a part of the Napoleonic Wars after all).

Japan, US, Ukraine, Poland, Turkey, England vs Iran, Iraqi insurgents, Afghan insurgents, North Korea, Russia

Anyone wanna take any bids, or add any countries?

If England are in that means Wales, Scotland and Northern Ireland are there too.

In the next 10 years the Middle East will declare war on itself and implode. Everyone will blame the US.