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VietnamSounds
09-02-2008, 07:15
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NR2_l7fqzRw
http://disney.go.com/disneypictures/wall-e/
This movie is going to be really good. The story is mostly visual, the first half hour will have no dialog apart from robot beeping. They're also using a live action actor, so the animated backgrounds must be very convincing if they're going to make that work.
The story takes place in the distant future when humans have resorted to life in outer space after filling the earth with junk. Humans float around on chairs, too fat to stand up. Some people complain that this is too much social commentary for the mainstream to handle, but I disagree. "People are getting fatter" is not exactly groundbreaking social commentary that is too intense of public consumption.
CNN had an article recently about how it's not fair to nominate Ratatouille for best animated picture, instead of plain old best picture. I totally agree. The only reason the animated picture category was created is because they didn't want Beauty and the Beast to win. If animated movies where allowed to compete with the others, Pixar probably would have won at least twice. I mean, during the year Toy Story came out, Braveheart won best picture. Everyone knows Toy Story is better.
I don't think there is any other movie studio besides Pixar that makes a commercially and critically successful movie every single year. If every studio could do that, they would. And Pixar does this with only 1000 employees?!
The Loyal Opposition
09-02-2008, 07:39
CNN had an article recently about how it's not fair to nominate Ratatouille for best animated picture, instead of plain old best picture. I totally agree.
I disagree. 99.9999999% of "plain old picture" is worthless junk anyway. Pixar should not be associating with such garbage.
Although the pessimist inside me is waiting for The Company Which Must Not Be Named (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Walt Disney Company) to run it all into the ground. It's a matter of time.
Cannot think of a name
09-02-2008, 07:50
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NR2_l7fqzRw
http://disney.go.com/disneypictures/wall-e/
This movie is going to be really good. The story is mostly visual, the first half hour will have no dialog apart from robot beeping. They're also using a live action actor, so the animated backgrounds must be very convincing if they're going to make that work.
The story takes place in the distant future when humans have resorted to life in outer space after filling the earth with junk. Humans float around on chairs, too fat to stand up. Some people complain that this is too much social commentary for the mainstream to handle, but I disagree. "People are getting fatter" is not exactly groundbreaking social commentary that is too intense of public consumption.
CNN had an article recently about how it's not fair to nominate Ratatouille for best animated picture, instead of plain old best picture. I totally agree. The only reason the animated picture category was created is because they didn't want Beauty and the Beast to win. If animated movies where allowed to compete with the others, Pixar probably would have won at least twice. I mean, during the year Toy Story came out, Braveheart won best picture. Everyone knows Toy Story is better.
I don't think there is any other movie studio besides Pixar that makes a commercially and critically successful movie every single year. If every studio could do that, they would. And Pixar does this with only 1000 employees?!
Pixar has twice failed to call me for the job of assistant projectionist, therefore they are bastards.
Aaahh, not really. I'm looking forward to Wall E
I disagree. 99.9999999% of "plain old picture" is worthless junk anyway. Pixar should not be associating with such garbage.
Although the pessimist inside me is waiting for The Company Which Must Not Be Named (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Walt Disney Company) to run it all into the ground. It's a matter of time.
As long as Disney needs Pixar more than Pixar needs Disney they'll be fine.
The Loyal Opposition
09-02-2008, 08:07
As long as Disney needs Pixar more than Pixar needs Disney they'll be fine.
I don't know much about the particular industry, but Disney's ability to constantly resell "special editions" of the same again, and again, and again tells me that 1) P. T. Barnum was absolutely correct; and 2) Disney has got the kind of guaranteed income that ensures its power relationship with Pixar tends toward the later option.
Even the theoretical possibility that Pixar can fall into the constantly resold "special edition" pit makes a part of me die inside. Hopefully this kind of animation will remain too complex and expensive for straight-to-DVD...
Boonytopia
09-02-2008, 08:45
The animation looks great, but the plot sounds really predicatable & boring.
The concept sounds like something Asimov or Philip K. Dick would think up.
Machines acting like humans, developing personalities, having sensations of loneliness and love et. al.
which is all baised off of the concept of Pinoccio...
this looks interesting... but unsure if I'll see it in the theaters...
Mad hatters in jeans
09-02-2008, 19:46
It looks okay, however it's missing some important components.
lightsabres, special magicy stuffs, and a better plot.
if i had to rate the film by seeing the trailer i'd give it 5 out of 10
Who knows what Disney and Pixar will come up with next so.........lets review:
They have made movies about
Talking Toys
Talking Fish
Monsters
A Magical Flying Babysitter that can actually sing to the word Supercailfegalisticexpealidochus.
Princess in Need of Rescuing by Princes over and over and over
A magical Land of Oz that experiences chaotic wealther
Underwater Mermaids
People in Arabia on Flying Carpets
A talking Grizley Bear that is overobsesed with Honey
Talking Savannah Animals that throw themselves in peril by the birth of a cub
A Girl and her pet lizard in China
And more...
So you see, the Robot was the only choice left, because the 7 Dwarfs idea was already taken.
Who knows what Disney and Pixar will come up with next so.........lets review:
They have made movies about
Talking Toys
Talking Fish
Monsters
A Magical Flying Babysitter that can actually sing to the word Supercailfegalisticexpealidochus.
Princess in Need of Rescuing by Princes over and over and over
A magical Land of Oz that experiences chaotic wealther
Underwater Mermaids
People in Arabia on Flying Carpets
A talking Grizley Bear that is overobsesed with Honey
Talking Savannah Animals that throw themselves in peril by the birth of a cub
A Girl and her pet lizard in China
And more...
So you see, the Robot was the only choice left, because the 7 Dwarfs idea was already taken.
only because a Kung Fu Panda (http://www.imdb.com/video/trailer/me60318448/) was already taken.
VietnamSounds
09-02-2008, 22:52
Disney merged with Pixar a long time ago. I was worried, but the result was that Disney began to get better, and Pixar got even better still. That won't change as long as Lasseter is alive at least.
Who knows what Disney and Pixar will come up with next so.........lets review:
They have made movies about
Talking Toys
Talking Fish
Monsters
A Magical Flying Babysitter that can actually sing to the word Supercailfegalisticexpealidochus.
Princess in Need of Rescuing by Princes over and over and over
A magical Land of Oz that experiences chaotic wealther
Underwater Mermaids
People in Arabia on Flying Carpets
A talking Grizley Bear that is overobsesed with Honey
Talking Savannah Animals that throw themselves in peril by the birth of a cub
A Girl and her pet lizard in China
And more...
So you see, the Robot was the only choice left, because the 7 Dwarfs idea was already taken.There aren't very many things kids will watch. Kids only watch movies that have other kids, magical powers, or creatures. I think a robot counts as a creature, but Pixar's next movie is about an old guy. It would be strange if kids started watching that.
Pixar still hasn't made a movie with a female main character, or even a movie where the population is 50% female, you know, like real life. I think the only non-princess girl Disney movie has been Lilo and Stitch. The non-princess genre can still be explored. And there are probably plenty of other things that haven't been the subject of an animated movie yet. I don't think there has been an animated movie about birds yet, or any sort of non-dinosaur reptile.
By the way Disney doesn't come up with any of Pixar's ideas or do any of the work. All they do is distribute the movies.
Cannot think of a name
09-02-2008, 23:15
I don't know much about the particular industry, but Disney's ability to constantly resell "special editions" of the same again, and again, and again tells me that 1) P. T. Barnum was absolutely correct; and 2) Disney has got the kind of guaranteed income that ensures its power relationship with Pixar tends toward the later option.
Even the theoretical possibility that Pixar can fall into the constantly resold "special edition" pit makes a part of me die inside. Hopefully this kind of animation will remain too complex and expensive for straight-to-DVD...
Pixar is bolstering their movie releases. The Disney Hit Machine hasn't been nearly as successful as Pixar has. Disney has been having some serious problems and Eisner being ousted in 2005 led by a very upset Roy Disney. (the whole thing can be documented in the book DisneyWar.) As a result, Pixar, which has maintained a degree of its independence since it renewed it's standing during that time (Pixar could have bought itself back, I believe), is the only part of the Hit Machine still working. Any tinkering with the goose that lays golden eggs like Finding Nemo or Ratatouille would be silly. And Pixar is in a strong enough position that it can more or less say 'no.'
Disney merged with Pixar a long time ago. I was worried, but the result was that Disney began to get better, and Pixar got even better still. That won't change as long as Lasseter is alive at least.
There aren't very many things kids will watch. Kids only watch movies that have other kids, magical powers, or creatures. I think a robot counts as a creature, but Pixar's next movie is about an old guy. It would be strange if kids started watching that.
Pixar still hasn't made a movie with a female main character, or even a movie where the population is 50% female, you know, like real life. I think the only non-princess girl Disney movie has been Lilo and Stitch. The non-princess genre can still be explored. And there are probably plenty of other things that haven't been the subject of an animated movie yet. I don't think there has been an animated movie about birds yet, or any sort of non-dinosaur reptile.
By the way Disney doesn't come up with any of Pixar's ideas or do any of the work. All they do is distribute the movies.
For more fun try finding a strong mother role in classic Disney movies.
Deus Malum
09-02-2008, 23:27
only because a Kung Fu Panda (http://www.imdb.com/video/trailer/me60318448/) was already taken.
I am not at all ashamed to admit that I'm really looking forward to that movie.
I am not at all ashamed to admit that I'm really looking forward to that movie.
with voices by Jack Black, Jackie Chan, Dustin Hoffman, Lucy Liu, Angelina Jolie, and Micheal Clarke Duncan... I wanna see that one also.
and Forbidden Kingdom (http://imdb.com/title/tt0865556/) with both Jackie Chan and Jet Li... :cool:
For more fun try finding a strong mother role in classic Disney movies.
Bambi.
Lion King
101 Dalmations
Cinderella
Snow White (ok, the strong (step)mother is actually evil... but it's still a strong mother role.)
however, finding Disney movies where there is a family (mother, father and children) that's hard...
UN Protectorates
10-02-2008, 00:24
This looks really quite awesome. Wall e reminds me of No. 5 from Short Circuit.
VietnamSounds
10-02-2008, 00:57
Bambi.
Lion King
101 Dalmations
Cinderella
Snow White (ok, the strong (step)mother is actually evil... but it's still a strong mother role.)
however, finding Disney movies where there is a family (mother, father and children) that's hard...In all of those movies, the father figure is stronger than the mother figure. Again Lilo and Stitch is an exception.
Dumbo is the only classic example I can think of. There are plenty of animated movies with strong mother figures that don't come from Disney, like the Rats of Nimh, Kiki's Delivery Service, the Land Before Time, the Pokemon movies, and the Incredibles.
And yeah, if I had learned about life from animated movies I would think that 95% of the human population are orphans or become orphaned at a young age.
Deus Malum
10-02-2008, 01:09
with voices by Jack Black, Jackie Chan, Dustin Hoffman, Lucy Liu, Angelina Jolie, and Micheal Clarke Duncan... I wanna see that one also.
and Forbidden Kingdom (http://imdb.com/title/tt0865556/) with both Jackie Chan and Jet Li... :cool:
I was praying to the gods of Martial Arts films that Chow Yun Fat ends up in the movie somehow. It's like the Holy Trinity, but with roundhouse kicks.
Deus Malum
10-02-2008, 01:11
This looks really quite awesome. Wall e reminds me of No. 5 from Short Circuit.
No. 5 is alive!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NR2_l7fqzRw
http://disney.go.com/disneypictures/wall-e/
I don't think there is any other movie studio besides Pixar that makes a commercially and critically successful movie every single year. If every studio could do that, they would. And Pixar does this with only 1000 employees?!
Well, the whole reason that crappy disney & pixar movies make so much money is they are watched by the easiest movie demographic to take advantage of, namely children.
Children don't have standards for movies, nor do their parents. They just take their kids to the most flashy, overhyped crap so the kids won't be jumping around and breaking stuff at home.
And children don't have standards, so no, most of the things pixar & disney create aren't good. The children just aren't old enough to realize what utter crap it is, and the adults just don't care.
Sarkhaan
10-02-2008, 02:55
Well, the whole reason that crappy disney & pixar movies make so much money is they are watched by the easiest movie demographic to take advantage of, namely children.
Children don't have standards for movies, nor do their parents. They just take their kids to the most flashy, overhyped crap so the kids won't be jumping around and breaking stuff at home.
And children don't have standards, so no, most of the things pixar & disney create aren't good. The children just aren't old enough to realize what utter crap it is, and the adults just don't care.
Disney and Pixar actually do have quite good movies (Disney does have a few flops, but by and large, they're good).
The other animation companies, on the other hand...
VietnamSounds
10-02-2008, 03:31
Well, the whole reason that crappy disney & pixar movies make so much money is they are watched by the easiest movie demographic to take advantage of, namely children.
Children don't have standards for movies, nor do their parents. They just take their kids to the most flashy, overhyped crap so the kids won't be jumping around and breaking stuff at home.
And children don't have standards, so no, most of the things pixar & disney create aren't good. The children just aren't old enough to realize what utter crap it is, and the adults just don't care.Pixar movies are good enough for adults. Or are you going to argue that critics don't have standards either?
Children do have standards. Most kids shows are canceled pretty much after the first season.