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Worthless Welfare Leech or Productive Office Drone?

Kryozerkia
06-02-2008, 01:50
The question is pretty simple...

Are you employed or are you useless?*

This applies to those who are of working age and are not students or home-makers.

If you're employed, what do you do for a living? Being a home-maker qualifies as being 'employed', even if the GDP doesn't factor in this unpaid position.

If you're not employed... what are you doing instead?

Or... are you a lucky S.O.B. and retired?

Me... I'm a junior clerk.

EDIT - poll added.

* Useless is meant in jest. :) Before I got a real job, I was 'useless'.
Cannot think of a name
06-02-2008, 01:51
I'm a freelance set crew worker in television and film, which means I fluctuate from employed to not employed. This last month, heavy on the 'not' end. It's sucked. I hardly ever work in narrative so the writer's strike hasn't effected me. In fact, the first major film since I started doing this has started is filming down the street from me. And the rat bastards haven't hired me...


those rat bastards...
Dyakovo
06-02-2008, 01:52
The question is pretty simple...

Are you employed or are you useless?*

This applies to those who are of working age and are not students or home-makers.

If you're employed, what do you do for a living? Being a home-maker qualifies as being 'employed', even if the GDP doesn't factor in this unpaid position.

If you're not employed... what are you doing instead?

Or... are you a lucky S.O.B. and retired?

Me... I'm a junior clerk.

Employed... I'm a truck driver (lorry driver to you brits out there ;))


Yay, got the first vote in the poll
Kryozerkia
06-02-2008, 01:54
Employed... I'm a truck driver (lorry driver to you brits out there ;))


Yay, got the first vote in the poll

What's your area? ie: what do you transport?
[NS]Click Stand
06-02-2008, 02:01
I am a student, but rest assured I am quite useless.
Kryozerkia
06-02-2008, 02:02
those rat bastards...

What? Rats born out of wed-lock didn't hire you? :p
Cannot think of a name
06-02-2008, 02:02
What? Rats born out of wed-lock didn't hire you? :p

Correct. If those rats had come from proper families they'd have hired me.
Dyakovo
06-02-2008, 02:06
What's your area? ie: what do you transport?

Paper products, i.e. paper towels, bathroom tissue, napkins...
As a contractor to a Canadian company (Irving Tissue)
Dyakovo
06-02-2008, 02:07
What? Rats born out of wed-lock didn't hire you? :p

I'd be surprised if they did ;)
Trollgaard
06-02-2008, 02:13
Student at a community college, and I'm about to get a job at an animal shelter.
Kryozerkia
06-02-2008, 02:13
Correct. If those rats had come from proper families they'd have hired me.

And they'd've had a right proper rearin' I reckon.
Kryozerkia
06-02-2008, 02:14
Paper products, i.e. paper towels, bathroom tissue, napkins...
As a contractor to a Canadian company (Irving Tissue)

Fun.

My job has me doing paperwork in a customers brokerage company, which includes bill of lading.
Dyakovo
06-02-2008, 02:15
Fun.

My job has me doing paperwork in a customers brokerage company, which includes bill of lading.

Yay! We have vaguely related jobs ;)
JuNii
06-02-2008, 02:18
employed.

Tech support for a Healthcare facility.
Chumblywumbly
06-02-2008, 02:27
Student with no job during term-time.
Marrakech II
06-02-2008, 02:31
Employer, restuarant business and Insurance. I also employ a full time handyman. My job description is a million different things really. Just depends on what is going on but usually could be equated to a manager.
Boonytopia
06-02-2008, 02:55
I work in an office in the telco industry.
Call to power
06-02-2008, 02:55
between jobs is how we prefer to be known and my welfare story is I'm currently signed onto an apprenticeship-thingy who haven't found any apprenticeships to offer me in 3 weeks...however I do TA for booze money :)

I wouldn't count myself as student for I do every other option than full time (part time, OU etc) because I like money and the other students make for more interesting people
Smunkeeville
06-02-2008, 03:10
I'm still doing financial planning, in the middle of the most stressful tax season I have seen to date, and finishing up my 4th book. I also teach a few classes at random times to random people.

I suppose I am useful, although not as useful as this time a year ago when I had like 8 jobs since now I only have 3.
Call to power
06-02-2008, 03:16
finishing up my 4th book.

is it any good?
Kryozerkia
06-02-2008, 03:17
I'm still doing financial planning, in the middle of the most stressful tax season I have seen to date, and finishing up my 4th book. I also teach a few classes at random times to random people.

I suppose I am useful, although not as useful as this time a year ago when I had like 8 jobs since now I only have 3.

You're a hell of a lot more useful than I am.

I'm a junior clerk who's biggest accomplishment is making several long pages look like many short ones using crude elementary folding techniques because my boss only wanted the insurance section from a stack of pages.
Dalmatia Cisalpina
06-02-2008, 03:21
Student. I work during the summers, but I have no job during the semesters.
Smunkeeville
06-02-2008, 03:24
is it any good?
hopefully! The first one was kinda like this one, it sells well, among people who are interested in the subject matter. The second was fiction, it won't sell, although it's probably because I don't promote it properly. The third was a cookbook, it's selling......as well as cookbooks do. This one is hopefully going to get a new demographic with my old subject matter and stuff. My publicist thinks it's awesome, but she always says that.


You're a hell of a lot more useful than I am.

I'm a junior clerk who's biggest accomplishment is making several long pages look like many short ones using crude elementary folding techniques because my boss only wanted the insurance section from a stack of pages.
In the summer my financial planning will slow down again (after tax season) and I will clown again, then I will be useless! :)
Sirmomo1
06-02-2008, 03:25
I guess you could say that I'm "between jobs". Except that I actually am between jobs so the euphemistic connotation annoys me.
Katganistan
06-02-2008, 03:29
Full time public high school English teacher and part time superhero.
Posi
06-02-2008, 04:36
I am a university student with a part time job at a grocery store. T'is the most demoralizing thing one can do (university student that is, the grocery store job is SO cash).
Strongmagnetsbreak
06-02-2008, 05:17
I am a high school student that cuts firewood and scraps metal for cash I plan to go to college and support my life without robbery or alms and by robbery i mean government welfare
Moonshine
06-02-2008, 05:21
At the moment most of my work is as a porter for these guys (www.tuffnells.co.uk) in the busiest depot in the business. That warehouse, right on the front page. That'll be where I work. And oh boy, is it work.
Marrakech II
06-02-2008, 05:21
I am a high school student that cuts firewood and scraps metal for cash I plan to go to college and support my life without robbery or alms and by robbery i mean government welfare

There is robbery as in White Collar crime. You are not going to skip out on that are you?
Sirmomo1
06-02-2008, 05:28
I am a high school student that cuts firewood and scraps metal for cash I plan to go to college and support my life without robbery or alms and by robbery i mean government welfare

If welfare qualifies as robbery than the food and shelter and warmth and nurturing and help and support your parents gave you certainly qualifies as alms. So your plan has failed already.
Infinite Revolution
06-02-2008, 08:42
i'm a waiter and bartender with a master's degree. w00t! for underemployment.
Tongass
06-02-2008, 09:05
As a government worker in a well-funded department, I am both employed AND useless.
Dyakovo
06-02-2008, 09:11
As a government worker in a well-funded department, I am both employed AND useless.

LOL
Laerod
06-02-2008, 10:21
Student working as a freelance translator and interpreter, which is whenever someone needs something translated or interpreted.
Anti-Social Darwinism
06-02-2008, 10:26
The question is pretty simple...

Are you employed or are you useless?*

This applies to those who are of working age and are not students or home-makers.

If you're employed, what do you do for a living? Being a home-maker qualifies as being 'employed', even if the GDP doesn't factor in this unpaid position.

If you're not employed... what are you doing instead?

Or... are you a lucky S.O.B. and retired?

Me... I'm a junior clerk.

EDIT - poll added.

* Useless is meant in jest. :) Before I got a real job, I was 'useless'.

Being retired is not necessarily lucky. I was forced into early retirement and my income is not really adequate - it's good enough to get by (barely) as long as there are no emergencies.
Vetalia
06-02-2008, 10:42
Well, next fall or so I wouldn't mind taking on a job as an accounting tutor. I still need to get some of my intermediate-level courses out of the way first, however.
RomeW
06-02-2008, 10:45
I don't know what I qualify as. I'm unemployed but I applied to go back to school in September, and my own blog runs the Google ads, which could count as a "job" even though I've made nothing out of it. :(

*shrugs*
Kyronea
06-02-2008, 10:46
I'm unemployed, working towards going into the Navy.

Thankfully my parents are awesome and freely work with me towards that goal. (In other words, free room and board.)
Eofaerwic
06-02-2008, 11:01
Pschology PhD student on a teaching studentship... which means I'd like to think I'm useful by advancing mankinds knowledge of the mind but really I probably count as useless. But at least I also teach.
Kyronea
06-02-2008, 11:17
Pschology PhD student on a teaching studentship... which means I'd like to think I'm useful by advancing mankinds knowledge of the mind but really I probably count as useless. But at least I also teach.

Understanding how the human mind works is one of the very most important things we can ever do, so trust me, your work is not wasted. Only a fool would refuse to acknowledge the advantage an understanding of psychology gives a person.
Euadnam
06-02-2008, 12:04
"Worthless Welfare Leech or Productive Office Drone?"


Neither. Unemployed, but looking for a job. It's much less easy to find one (albeit not impossible) if you have a disability, especially one that effects how you interact socially with others.
Jello Biafra
06-02-2008, 12:15
Part-time student, part-time (working full-time hours) manual laborer in a grocery store.
Mad hatters in jeans
06-02-2008, 12:24
The question is pretty simple...

Are you employed or are you useless?*

This applies to those who are of working age and are not students or home-makers.

If you're employed, what do you do for a living? Being a home-maker qualifies as being 'employed', even if the GDP doesn't factor in this unpaid position.

If you're not employed... what are you doing instead?

Or... are you a lucky S.O.B. and retired?

Me... I'm a junior clerk.

EDIT - poll added.

* Useless is meant in jest. :) Before I got a real job, I was 'useless'.

What's a homemaker?
The welfare state is meant to help the folks who have difficulty getting jobs so i don't think it's fair to call it a "drain on society", as the majority of people in the UK on benefits genuinely need it (according to my sociology teacher).
My job providing stability to society and generally being very cool:cool:, or in other words a student.
Dyakovo
06-02-2008, 12:29
"Worthless Welfare Leech or Productive Office Drone?"


Neither. Unemployed, but looking for a job. It's much less easy to find one (albeit not impossible) if you have a disability, especially one that effects how you interact socially with others.

So by the definition in the OP, useless ;)
Dyakovo
06-02-2008, 12:30
What's a homemaker?


A stay-at-home mom is a homemaker.
Euadnam
06-02-2008, 12:32
So by the definition in the OP, useless ;)

Yes. :p
Jello Biafra
06-02-2008, 12:34
What's a homemaker?A homemaker is what used to be called a "housewife" but now the term homemaker is used because "housewife" is sexist and because 'homemaker' acknowledges the work done.
Mad hatters in jeans
06-02-2008, 12:35
A stay-at-home mom is a homemaker.

A homemaker is what used to be called a "housewife" but now the term homemaker is used because "housewife" is sexist and because 'homemaker' acknowledges the work done.

Oh thanks, one of my friends has a mum like that, she makes excellent cakes, they are the envy of many people. And she's into supporting social groups and small town meetings and little town-hall sales of food etc. she's a really nice person too.
The Southern Border
06-02-2008, 12:53
What's a homemaker?
The welfare state is meant to help the folks who have difficulty getting jobs so i don't think it's fair to call it a "drain on society", as the majority of people in the UK on benefits genuinely need it (according to my sociology teacher).
My job providing stability to society and generally being very cool:cool:, or in other words a student.

Sociology teacher... *shudder* The most reasonable sociology teacher I've ever had was a supporter of... "extending civil rights (as in, state welfare) to everyone". The worst one I've had was downright communist.

And to be honest, I hate how state-dependant most of Europe has become. These days I'm more for Ireland than the UK, simply because they're going the opposite way of the general politically correct welfare.
Sarejavo
06-02-2008, 13:17
Integrated Animal Sales Technician :cool:



...or i could say i work in a pet store
Kryozerkia
06-02-2008, 13:38
i'm a waiter and bartender with a master's degree. w00t! for underemployment.

Been there. It's not much fun... especially when someone with a lower education, in a higher position than you craps all over you.

As a government worker in a well-funded department, I am both employed AND useless.

Most of my family is like that. They work for various government departments.

I don't know what I qualify as. I'm unemployed but I applied to go back to school in September, and my own blog runs the Google ads, which could count as a "job" even though I've made nothing out of it. :(

*shrugs*

Student. What's the programme or course?

I'm unemployed, working towards going into the Navy.

Thankfully my parents are awesome and freely work with me towards that goal. (In other words, free room and board.)

How does one work to get into the Navy?

What's a homemaker?
The welfare state is meant to help the folks who have difficulty getting jobs so i don't think it's fair to call it a "drain on society", as the majority of people in the UK on benefits genuinely need it (according to my sociology teacher).
My job providing stability to society and generally being very cool:cool:, or in other words a student.

Home-maker was already defined earlier, so I don't need to add more.

The title was meant to embrace extremes. I know there are plenty of people in Canada who legitimately need welfare assistance because minimum wage is a bloody joke. Welfare assistance isn't necessarily a drain on society, until those seeking it are abusing it or are perfectly able to work but refuse to do so.
[NS:]Knotthole Glade
06-02-2008, 13:43
Oh thanks, one of my friends has a mum like that, she makes excellent cakes, they are the envy of many people. And she's into supporting social groups and small town meetings and little town-hall sales of food etc. she's a really nice person too.

Yeah, I get that with a friends' mom too ^_^
I'm a student with no job, and I plan on dragging it on like this for as long as I can afford.
Extreme Ironing
06-02-2008, 13:51
Student. I work at a bar one night a week during term, though it's at a concert hall so I'm only actually working before and during the interval, but still get paid for the full time I'm there :)
Peepelonia
06-02-2008, 14:07
I'm a freelance set crew worker in television and film, which means I fluctuate from employed to not employed. This last month, heavy on the 'not' end. It's sucked. I hardly ever work in narrative so the writer's strike hasn't effected me. In fact, the first major film since I started doing this has started is filming down the street from me. And the rat bastards haven't hired me...


those rat bastards...

Are they the Johannes-Rat Bastards or the Smythly-Rat Bastards?
Euadnam
06-02-2008, 14:11
i'm a waiter and bartender with a master's degree. w00t! for underemployment.

At least you have a job. :(
Vandal-Unknown
06-02-2008, 14:15
Welfare? What welfare? And why is there no entrepreneur option?

Employed,... I destroy walls and/or paper, create spaces, sometimes toys and do-dads, stage/event planning.
IL Ruffino
06-02-2008, 18:41
I'm a student with no job, but I do sell a photo here and there. So I'm not completely dependent on my parents.
Yootopia
06-02-2008, 18:54
I'm a student, but I've been known to sell parts of those organs which regrow.

That includes the heart, right?
Llewdor
06-02-2008, 18:57
I manage databases for a large international charity.
Maraque
06-02-2008, 19:09
I'm a hotel front desk clerk and a sales secretary for an insurance agency.
Infinite Revolution
06-02-2008, 19:09
Been there. It's not much fun... especially when someone with a lower education, in a higher position than you craps all over you.


yeh, fortunately most of the supervisors are pretty awesome and the ones that get off on power tripping know they can't do that to me. our manager is pretty useless and keeps inexplicably advancing her career but the rest of us manage to work around her fuck-ups. i actually quite enjoy my work, it's nice not to use my brain too much after university (cuz frankly i hated uni) and the free food and booze keeps me sweet. i'm gunna have to get a better paying job soon though, even if it means becoming an office drone (*shudder*, i'm not sure i could bare it though).
RomeW
06-02-2008, 21:32
Student. What's the programme or course?

Three, actually. Research Analyst, Marketing and Advertising, all at Georgian in Barrie. My brother is already in Accounting and loves it, plus I haven't found anything with my History Degree so I have to go back; but it'll be worth it.
Sumamba Buwhan
06-02-2008, 21:33
Computer Specialist

That's the title the boss gave me anyway.

I do Phone tech support for a few clients and go to their offices to fix stuff/set stuff up.

I also write functional websites for my company as well as our clients.
Chandelier
06-02-2008, 21:40
I'm currently a high school student. I don't have a job now but I'm planning on getting one when I go to college.
Llewdor
06-02-2008, 21:43
Sure it does. ;)
Actually, I envy you. I wish I could sell blood and plasma for a little extra money, maybe even work at a medication study; however, they don't like anemic people.
Selling bodily fluids is illegal in Canada.
Dalmatia Cisalpina
06-02-2008, 21:46
I'm a student, but I've been known to sell parts of those organs which regrow.

That includes the heart, right?

Sure it does. ;)
Actually, I envy you. I wish I could sell blood and plasma for a little extra money, maybe even work at a medication study; however, they don't like anemic people.
Iniika
06-02-2008, 21:52
Office bitch! Woot!
Dalmatia Cisalpina
06-02-2008, 21:55
Selling bodily fluids is illegal in Canada.

Less you have to worry about, then. ;) It's a way of life here (less than 150 miles from the Canadian border). A lot of college students make that their job. Whatever works.
Lord Tothe
06-02-2008, 21:56
Draftsman.

As a matter of principle, I avoid accepting any government benefit as much as possible. I didn't file for unemployment when I lost a job last year, I went and found work. It can be done. I had 3 seasonal jobs that weren't drafting-related, but they paid the bills 'til I found this job.

For the record, my health is such that I could probably get a welfare check for the rest of my life if I wanted to. No thanks, I want to earn what I get.
Pan-Arab Barronia
06-02-2008, 22:06
Professional Pyromaniac.

Also known as a Fuels Analyst for RWE npower, where my job really does involve setting powdered coal and other rather funky things (like Australian shite - yes, I can now say I have set fire to shit) on fire.

Good times.
Gravlen
06-02-2008, 22:21
I work for a living - it's hard, so I get massages during work if it gets too stressful :p
Trotskylvania
06-02-2008, 22:24
I'm a student, aka, wage-slave in training.
Newer Burmecia
06-02-2008, 22:38
Professional Pyromaniac.

Also known as a Fuels Analyst for RWE npower, where my job really does involve setting powdered coal and other rather funky things (like Australian shite - yes, I can now say I have set fire to shit) on fire.

Good times.
Now that's a cool job.
Cosmopoles
06-02-2008, 22:45
I'm a student who works in summers and wastes your tax money the rest of the time.
Pan-Arab Barronia
06-02-2008, 22:48
Now that's a cool job.

Very enjoyable, and with the potential to have my work published in a journal by August at the age of 19. Sweet as.

Rather work for TSE though - we have to outsource explosivity tests, and they're our contractor. It sounds so cool.
Law Abiding Criminals
06-02-2008, 23:01
I am a productive office drone.

Ideally, I'd like to be either dictator of the world or sitting around all day watching TV and playing video games in my underwear.
Levee en masse
06-02-2008, 23:17
The question is pretty simple...

Are you employed or are you useless?*

This applies to those who are of working age and are not students or home-makers.

If you're employed, what do you do for a living? Being a home-maker qualifies as being 'employed', even if the GDP doesn't factor in this unpaid position.

If you're not employed... what are you doing instead?

Or... are you a lucky S.O.B. and retired?

Me... I'm a junior clerk.

EDIT - poll added.

* Useless is meant in jest. :) Before I got a real job, I was 'useless'.

I'm productive.

I have a full time job, being employed by an NHS hospital.

Don't worry, I don't go near patients :)
Myrmidonisia
06-02-2008, 23:29
Selling bodily fluids is illegal in Canada.
Now there is a real travesty.

I and many other college students made a good deal of beer money selling plasma. Plus, the beer works faster and the money goes farther if you drink right after giving the plasma. Even better if you give whole blood, but you need to wait a couple of months between sales.
Kyronea
07-02-2008, 03:50
How does one work to get into the Navy?


By making oneself healthy enough to actually join. I can't join yet but I'm close to being healthy enough to do so.
The Atlantian islands
07-02-2008, 04:05
A student..but during the breaks and summer when I'm not travelling (nationally or internationally) I work for a hybrid job dealing between toxins/chemicals/construction.