NationStates Jolt Archive


Communism

Soheran
05-02-2008, 04:33
Why do millions of people in the U.S support the principles of the Communist Manifesto rather than the Constitution.

Why shouldn't they?
Dyakovo
05-02-2008, 04:34
Why do millions of people in the U.S support the principles of the Communist Manifesto rather than the Constitution.

Because they're mentally deficient?
or
They actually think that it will lead to a utopian society, which the U.S. constitution has certainly failed to do.
Dyakovo
05-02-2008, 04:35
Why do millions of posters get riled up by painfully obvious trolls?

Why not? I've got nothing better to do right now (other take a shower and go to bed).
Strongmagnetsbreak
05-02-2008, 04:35
Why do millions of people in the U.S support the principles of the Communist Manifesto rather than the Constitution.
Beth Gellert
05-02-2008, 04:37
Why do some people finish a question with a full stop?

So many mysteries, so little point to answering.
Barringtonia
05-02-2008, 04:37
Why do millions of Americans pour syrup into their coffee?
Fleckenstein
05-02-2008, 04:37
Why do millions of people in the U.S support the principles of the Communist Manifesto rather than the Constitution.

They have half a brain.

They just lack the other half.
Chumblywumbly
05-02-2008, 04:38
Why do millions of posters get riled up by painfully obvious trolls?
Bann-ed
05-02-2008, 04:38
Why do millions of people in the U.S support the principles of the Communist Manifesto rather than the Constitution.

Source foo?
Free Soviets
05-02-2008, 05:03
fun and profit
The Loyal Opposition
05-02-2008, 05:05
Why shouldn't they?

Do they even exist? If so, I've got some printing (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Individualist_Anarchism) to do. :D
Knights of Liberty
05-02-2008, 05:15
Why do millions of people in the U.S support the principles of the Communist Manifesto rather than the Constitution.


Because theyre not necissarially mutually exclusive?
Zayun2
05-02-2008, 05:18
Why do millions of people in the U.S support the principles of the Communist Manifesto rather than the Constitution.

Viva la Revolucion!

You need to follow a revolutionary ethic, making an existentialist leap of faith, allowing for the destruction of the bourgeous state. Anything else only insulates the bourgeous state, preventing the creation of a true utopian society.

But anyways, why shouldn't we support the Communist Manifesto?
Trotskylvania
05-02-2008, 05:18
Why do millions of people in the U.S support the principles of the Communist Manifesto rather than the Constitution.

Because people like myself, Soheran and Free Soviets are ebil. To the core. We are utterly consumed and blackened by our evil. This is manifested in our love of freedom and civil liberties, our strong sense of compassion to our fellow man, our unwillingness to compromise on ethics out of political expediency, our dislike of oppression, and above all our tolerance of homosexuals. :rolleyes:
Andaras
05-02-2008, 06:55
I wonder if the OP has even read the Manifesto....
Wilgrove
05-02-2008, 07:06
Why do millions of people in the U.S support the principles of the Communist Manifesto rather than the Constitution.

Really? Where are the millions of people? Last I heard the Communist Party USA is pretty much a joke.
Wilgrove
05-02-2008, 07:07
I wonder if the OP has even read the Manifesto....

I'm guessing no....
Wilgrove
05-02-2008, 07:08
Says the Proud Libertarian. :D

Alas, Third Parties!

Hey, at least my party has more members than the CPUSA! So THERE!

*sticks tounge out*

:p
The Loyal Opposition
05-02-2008, 07:10
Because people like myself, Soheran and Free Soviets are ebil.

Nobody here is evil. Except Fluffy.

http://www.mypetcaptions.com/wp-content/uploads/2007/07/fluffy_destroyer.jpg

Who, I must note, kind of looks like Karl Marx. If you squint.
The Loyal Opposition
05-02-2008, 07:13
Last I heard the Communist Party USA is pretty much a joke.

Says the Proud Libertarian. :D

Alas, Third Parties!
Andaras
05-02-2008, 07:16
Really? Where are the millions of people? Last I heard the Communist Party USA is pretty much a joke.

The CPUSA is completely revisionist, and useless. 'Reflections on Socialism' is a work of utter rubbish. Sam Webb is as useless as the CPUSA.

In all honesty I would not be surprised if they have already been infiltrated by the FBI. The CPUSA's program is aimed at getting Democrats elected rather than having a proletarian revolution.

The CPUSA is a dieing party, and with good reason. The PLP and RCP are the only proper revolutionary organizations in America these days.

Anyways, end of rant.
Trotskylvania
05-02-2008, 07:31
Nobody here is evil. Except Fluffy.

http://www.mypetcaptions.com/wp-content/uploads/2007/07/fluffy_destroyer.jpg

Who, I must note, kind of looks like Karl Marx. If you squint.

Quick! Have him start reading Hegel so that he can grow out a nice Hegelian beard!
Gartref
05-02-2008, 07:40
Why do millions of people in the U.S support the principles of the Communist Manifesto rather than the Constitution.

I am much more worried about the millions of Americans that watch Jerry Springer and think pro-rassling is a real sport.
Vetalia
05-02-2008, 07:50
I wish millions of people supported the Communist Manifesto. The sheer trolling potential in 1991 would've been priceless.
Laerod
05-02-2008, 10:13
Why do millions of people in the U.S support the principles of the Communist Manifesto rather than the Constitution.If there's millions, go ahead and name some.
Soheran
05-02-2008, 11:33
In all honesty I would not be surprised if they have already been infiltrated by the FBI.

The FBI doesn't infiltrate useless joke parties.

The PLP and RCP are the only proper revolutionary organizations in America these days.

:p

Do you know anything about either other than their official dogma?

Edit: Actually, do you even know that? The Progressive Labor Party has actually departed quite significantly from certain portions of Marxist-Leninist thought. It would not be unreasonable to call them "ultra-leftist."
Dyakovo
05-02-2008, 15:45
I wonder if the OP has even read the Manifesto....

I can almost guarantee that the answer is no
Risottia
05-02-2008, 16:05
Because theyre not necissarially mutually exclusive?

Winner!
Andaluciae
05-02-2008, 16:07
I wonder if the OP has even read the Manifesto....

Your holy book of choice...
Andaluciae
05-02-2008, 16:22
Regardless of the fact that the OP is entirely wrong in his assertion that there are millions of Americans who support the writings of Marx (there decidedly aren't, the US has never hard a strong interest in the pseudoscientific theories of Marx), it remains that the Communist Manifesto and Das Kapital are based in a questionable use of the term science, questionable views of history, and even more questionable views of economics and the origins of value. Assumptions that there are absolutes about history, and that human nature is as malleable as he claims forces us to wonder about the validity of his work.

Thus, I can personally give someone who adheres to a non-Marxist Communist/Socialist/Anarchist ideology far more credit than I can someone who adheres to one of the (seemingly) endless variations on this original theme. Marxism requires a leap of faith that, I, for one, cannot make.
Hamilay
05-02-2008, 16:25
:confused:Communism in America?:confused:

Communism? In my America?
B en H
05-02-2008, 16:25
:confused:Communism in America?:confused:
Dyakovo
05-02-2008, 16:52
:confused:Communism in America?:confused:

Yes