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Who will be the 'contestants'? I've always imagined it to be the West (plus Israel and any other pro western, eastern territory) Vs. The East & Russia, although thats pretty vague. I adore polls, so even though it is not the best thread to include one I shall add one anyway. So expect a big fail there then. Anyway... Yeah. Who?

It's been predicted in some areas on religion that a war between the west and east will occur after a certain pope takes power (i think it was pope benedict). Of course most predictions are wrong so i try not to believe that one.
I apologise for vagueness but i heard it ages ago (literally at least 3 years).

I picked West vs. East, but that is very simplified. It'll be about resources, so it will depend on who needs what and where they'll try to get it.

If a truly global conflict were to erupt among any of the major powers of the world, human civilization will likely come to an end. The massive power of even the smallest nuclear arsenals would result in hundreds of millions of deaths within the opening stages of any full scale war. And if there were a nuclear exchange between the US and Russia, the whole of human civilization risks annihilation.

I hope never to see a Third World War. As we continue to move into the future, our arsenals will only continue to get deadlier.

A few possibilities, in the order that I think of them:

1. Islamic extremists launch coups in Muslim countries, detonate nuclear warheads against Western cities. Western powers ally with everybody else. This is the most likely conflict to emerge in the immediate future.
2. Relations between West and Russia continue to plummet. Putin interferes in some Eastern European country a la Ukraine, only this time civil war results. Russian and European soldiers are sent to support opposite sides, US dusts off Cold War battle plans.
3. In response to the rise of Islamic fundamentalism, Christian fundamentalism begins to openly fight it. Eventually, Christian-controlled countries (Sub-Saharan Africa, Latin America, possibly the United States) attack Muslim-controlled countries (North Africa, Middle East, Pakistan, Malaysia, Indonesia). Israel deploys sci-fi defense systems (lasers and such), and turtles. Rest of the world sits this one out.

The most likely candidate would be a late 21st-century or early 22nd-century war that arises out of future conflicts. In such a war, I could not predict who the sides would be.

Also, I might envision some kind of free-for-all with multiple factions. Possibility:
Western Hemisphere: North America, South America, and Republic of Australia. Led by the USA.
European Union: Comprising all of Europe minus Russia. Britain, France, Germany, and Ukraine are the major powers.
Russo-Asian Alliance: Russia, China, Korea, Japan, Indochina, and India. Led by Russia and China.
Jerusalem Covenant: Formed in an unholy alliance between Israel and its former enemies - the Middle East. Led by Israel, Iran, and Egypt.
African Union: Most of Africa. South Africa and Nigeria dominate.

If a truly global conflict were to erupt among any of the major powers of the world, human civilization will likely come to an end. The massive power of even the smallest nuclear arsenals would result in hundreds of millions of deaths within the opening stages of any full scale war. And if there were a nuclear exchange between the US and Russia, the whole of human civilization risks annihilation.
You assume that the countries would simply want each other's nonexistence, but in history wars have always been fought over something. And that something usually becomes less valuable if you nuke it.

Bob Dole
But seriously, i believe it will be between the islamic states :sniper:and the west

Bob Dole.


Allthough my suspicions are that IF there was a WWIII (which I am doubtful of) it would be:

America, Western Europe, Japan, and maybe China. Oh, and Australia. Theyre always on America's side.

vs

Tzar Vladmir Putan I of the New Russian Empire, a few formor Soviet Eastern Europian countries, and the Mid East.


Allowing Kim Jong Il to retake South Korea and form a unified Korean state.

I would suppose it to be something along the lines of Battlefield 2142

Pardon the pun but it will be a third-world war. Most of the countries that used to fight now have nuclear deterrents and enough firepower to wipe a city of the map. So fighting between first world countries won't happen.

The Serbs leave the EU in disgrace, taking several other Eastern nations with them, and make the Oriental Alliance of Communism. Russia, China, etc. Eager to annex Bosnia, they assassinate Arch-Minister Ferdinand of Bosnia. Alliances are dragged in, and war ensues.

Frankly, people are aware of what WWIII would bring, so I doubt any power would attack another directly... The future of warfare is economic, digital, terrorism, and the occasional proxy.

You assume that the countries would simply want each other's nonexistence, but in history wars have always been fought over something. And that something usually becomes less valuable if you nuke it.

No, I assume that the losers will want to stay in power, and will use all means at there disposal to do so. Nuclear exchanges in wars will likely be started by the side that is on the brink of defeat by conventional arms. And besides, the Nazi blitkreig into the USSR killed 30 million people with technology that is positively ancient by our standards. Have something similar occur with modern technology, I'd expect the death toll to expand five to ten fold.

Thanks to those handy dandy nuclear warheads we all love so much there won’t be much of a war. More like those who are not immediately incinerated will be bummed out. :) Enjoy your new tans

Future's so bright, I gotta wear shades! :cool:

Thanks to those handy dandy nuclear warheads we all love so much there won’t be much of a war. More like those who are not immediately incinerated will be bummed out. :) Enjoy your new tans

America vs. Rest of the world. I kinda like that option...:)

I picked america vs. the world becouse the USA is somehow allway's at war.

(just to be clear, I am not talking down to all Americans. I'm just thinking outloud... through my computer):sniper:

Bob Dole!

Who will be the 'contestants'? I've always imagined it to be the West (plus Israel and any other pro western, eastern territory) Vs. The East & Russia, although thats pretty vague. I adore polls, so even though it is not the best thread to include one I shall add one anyway. So expect a big fail there then. Anyway... Yeah. Who?

LG vs. sanity, sanity will lose... badly ;)

Western Hemisphere: North America, South America, and Republic of Australia. Led by the USA.South America led by the USA?

have you been to South America Lately?

South America is most likely to stay out of any Big War.
The only exception to this is the Guyanas.

LG vs. sanity, sanity will lose... badly ;)

Agreed.

I think that it'll go something like this
The US fails to react to WMD in Iran after our little "Accident" in Iraq. The US later finds out about them, and taking our Usual "We can have world-destroying weapons,but you can't because we're all peaceful and (Insert assorted BS to that tune)" No matter whether they wanted them as weapons to attack somone or merly as a counterattack should they be attacked, the US invades. Both the US and Iran refrain from using Nuclear weapons for feaar of destroying all Mankind. Then I wake up from my crazy dream and go hunt for food in the King's forest.:p

Just to clarify: what makes a war a "world" war?

MASS FREE FOR ALL BATTLE ROYALE!

READY....


FIGHT!!

If a truly global conflict were to erupt among any of the major powers of the world, human civilization will likely come to an end. The massive power of even the smallest nuclear arsenals would result in hundreds of millions of deaths within the opening stages of any full scale war. And if there were a nuclear exchange between the US and Russia, the whole of human civilization risks annihilation.

I hope never to see a Third World War. As we continue to move into the future, our arsenals will only continue to get deadlier.

Which is why we've got to get rid of those things: I don't trust the capabilities of humanity to keep their triggers off the finger forever, and thus, it would be best if we can agree to rid ourselves of our deadliest weapons. NBC weapons must be abolished.

Which is why we've got to get rid of those things: I don't trust the capabilities of humanity to keep their triggers off the finger forever, and thus, it would be best if we can agree to rid ourselves of our deadliest weapons. NBC weapons must be abolished.

Nice idea, but how exactly are you proposing to accomplish this?

I think that it'll go something like this
The US fails to react to WMD in Iran after our little "Accident" in Iraq. The US later finds out about them, and taking our Usual "We can have world-destroying weapons,but you can't because we're all peaceful and (Insert assorted BS to that tune)" No matter whether they wanted them as weapons to attack somone or merly as a counterattack should they be attacked, the US invades. Both the US and Iran refrain from using Nuclear weapons for feaar of destroying all Mankind. Then I wake up from my crazy dream and go hunt for food in the King's forest.:p



Two things...

1. Iran wont have WMDs anytime soon if ever.
2. Iran wont care about annihilating mankind (or at least the west) because they would get 69 virgins for doing so.

NBC weapons must be abolished.

I know they don't show the best programs, but to call them the deadliest weapon is a bit harsh.

Which is why we've got to get rid of those things: I don't trust the capabilities of humanity to keep their triggers off the finger forever, and thus, it would be best if we can agree to rid ourselves of our deadliest weapons. NBC weapons must be abolished.

Dispite your good intentions, it would never work that way. As soon as the world gets rid of all of its NBC weapons, some terrorist/mickey mouse/rouge nation will delevlop some in secret and be the only with them, so he can't fear nuclear retailation, resulting in him nuking a good chunk of the world. The only thing stopping NK from nuking SK, and invading them is the the fact that they'll be nuked by the US and company.

Dispite your good intentions, it would never work that way. As soon as the world gets rid of all of its NBC weapons, some terrorist/mickey mouse/rouge nation will delevlop some in secret and be the only with them, so he can't fear nuclear retailation, resulting in him nuking a good chunk of the world. The only thing stopping NK from nuking SK, and invading them is the the fact that they'll be nuked by the US and company.

I don't think China'd be too happy about it either...

Dispite your good intentions, it would never work that way. As soon as the world gets rid of all of its NBC weapons, some terrorist/mickey mouse/rouge nation will delevlop some in secret and be the only with them, so he can't fear nuclear retailation, resulting in him nuking a good chunk of the world. The only thing stopping NK from nuking SK, and invading them is the the fact that they'll be nuked by the US and company.

Overwhelming conventional force and a fully developed NMD would provide for the best option there.

It would be nice if we could make nuclear weapons obsolete.

Who will be the 'contestants'? I've always imagined it to be the West (plus Israel and any other pro western, eastern territory) Vs. The East & Russia, although thats pretty vague. I adore polls, so even though it is not the best thread to include one I shall add one anyway. So expect a big fail there then. Anyway... Yeah. Who?

West vs East and it has already started. :(

United States of Canada vs. Jesusland. :)

I cant see WWIII really happening. Nuclear winter is a pretty good incentive not to fight other major countries.

This is retarded....

Dispite your good intentions, it would never work that way. As soon as the world gets rid of all of its NBC weapons, some terrorist/mickey mouse/rouge nation will delevlop some in secret and be the only with them, so he can't fear nuclear retailation, resulting in him nuking a good chunk of the world. The only thing stopping NK from nuking SK, and invading them is the the fact that they'll be nuked by the US and company.

A lone terrorist group with a bomb can kill 5 million people tops. A rogue nation cannot afford to use nuclear weapons lest they bombed to dust by everyone in the world's conventional weapons. But a nation like the US or Russia armed with nuclear weapons could kill 5 billion people in a single day.

Who will be the 'contestants'? I've always imagined it to be the West (plus Israel and any other pro western, eastern territory) Vs. The East & Russia, although thats pretty vague. I adore polls, so even though it is not the best thread to include one I shall add one anyway. So expect a big fail there then. Anyway... Yeah. Who?World Wars are no longer profitable. Russia will not likely attack the people that it intends to have paying through the nose for natural gas.

Amusing question- I always liked the idea of it being Japan and Russia (until Russia switches sides per the usual) against the world. Yes, Japan doesn't have an army and in recent years they've been quite peaceful, BUT, Just about every 100 years Japan needs to burn off some steam and they invade China. Since nobody in the Western World cares all that much about China (politically speaking that is), Japan will get a slap on the wrist. Russia of course helps Japan defeat China because Russia loves a good war :) Then, Japan will take out SE Asia and again the West will say "Eh... less problems for us- good job." The Middle East will take note and start attacking Europe and other Western nations. The West will retaliate by carpet-bombing the Middle East and Japan/Russia will quietly take over Eastern Europe. Europe will now be facing a war on two fronts and are ill-prepared for it, but none-the-less Russia will get cold feet and decide to switch sides and fight against Japan. Japan ready for this will take out Moscow, St. Petersburg, etc.. and Russia will just about give up. And after a long war which no side will win, Japan, Europe, and the US will all but be demolished, the Middle-East will be a pile of rubble, and Africa will inherit the Earth. Hehehe... ;)

I have been long convinced that the next great war will be the Resource Wars. Everyone vs. everyone else to gain control of strategic resources such as potable water, arable land, and the exotic metals that make hi-tech possible (did you know that the US has no natural source of Cobalt?).

Those nations that come out on top will be prepared to take to Space and the unlimited resources available there. The rest will be also-rans...forever.

This is retarded....Yeah.. what are ya gonna do though... boys will be boys.


Reality check. There will never be another world consuming conflict like the 'world' wars.

The small vicious ones that are all the rage now are much more profitable...

The Capitalistic West, the Communist West, the Theocracy West, the etc Western nations, The Islamic Sovereignity, the Islamic armed people, the Jewish, the Indies, the Malays, the Russians, the Japanese, etc, all is a side in it's owns. They will problably ally with and attack other side as the situation permits... The next world war will be a free-diplomacy war!

I know not with what weapons World War III will be fought, but World War IV will be fought with sticks and stones.


Couldn't have said it better myself.

Two things...

1. Iran wont have WMDs anytime soon if ever.
2. Iran wont care about annihilating mankind (or at least the west) because they would get to 69 virgins for doing so.

Correction in bold.

But hiding insurgents can still have AK-47 :rolleyes:

Couldn't have said it better myself.Depends. If WWIII is the Zombie War, then it will be fought with sticks and stones. WWIV will be sophisticated weaponry again.

I have been long convinced that the next great war will be the Resource Wars. Everyone vs. everyone else to gain control of strategic resources such as potable water, arable land, and the exotic metals that make hi-tech possible (did you know that the US has no natural source of Cobalt?).

I'm thinking along the same lines. Major nations supporting their 'friends' in resource-rich Africa, leading to heightened tentions until.....

Maybe a hot war between Microsoft and Google.

Maybe a hot war between Microsoft and Google.

Gah, I can't think who I would root for. Just the thought of what Bill Gates would do to prisoners is enough to clinch me for the Microsoft side though.

"I know not what weapons WW3 will be fought with,but WW4 will be fought with sticks n` stones."