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Some people seem to be upset over Captain America carrying a gun. Is this going too far on either side?

Or is it just annoying hardcore comic fans?

http://abcnews.go.com/GMA/Entertainment/Story?id=4233383&page=1

Meh.

I’m not a huge fan of using a gun over superhuman strength, but then I’ve never really been a fan of Captain America.

Meh, he got his Super Powers from drugs.

http://www.superdickery.com/propaganda/23.html :D

That's not Captain America; that's his sidekick from World War II, Bucky Barnes, in Captain America's uniform.

Captain America is Steve Rogers.

That’s not Captain America; that’s his sidekick from World War II, Bucky Barnes, in Captain America’s uniform.

Captain America is Steve Rogers.
Yeah, I thought Marvel had ‘retired’ Cap after the whole Civil War arc.

Yeah, I thought Marvel had ‘retired’ Cap after the whole Civil War arc.


Well, we see how well that worked originally with the Captain America/US Agent deal some years ago....


This reminds me of the Death of Superman, and Batman being replaced temporarily by Azrael. You just don't kill off the iconic figures; people want them back.

This reminds me of the Death of Superman, and Batman being replaced temporarily by Azrael. You just don’t kill off the iconic figures; people want them back.
Sure, but fucking with the formula (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Swamp_Thing#Alan_Moore) often improves a stale comic creation.

Sure, but fucking with the formula (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Swamp_Thing#Alan_Moore) often improves a stale comic creation.

Sometimes.... but then again, Bruce Wayne returned to being Batman, and Clark Kent returned to being Superman, etc. etc. etc.

Sometimes.... but then again, Bruce Wayne returned to being Batman, and Clark Kent returned to being Superman, etc. etc. etc.

Personally I'm surprised they can keep Superman going for so long. I mean he's virtually indestructible with his only weakness being Kryptonite (which apparently everyone has at least a closet full of, even Clark's adoptive parents) and you can only read about him saving Lois or Jimmy so many times before getting bored with it.

Best superhero ever? (http://www.superdickery.com/propaganda/67.html)

Superman, while not weak to magic, isn't immune to it either. In other words, a magic using villain can give him a run for his money. Like Mxy.

He’s always struck me as a nutjob that refuses to cooperate with others. The “I’ll do what I want and the rest of the world can go hang” attitude he displays is something I’ve always hated about him.
And Smax could kick his ass...

Best superhero ever?

Hahaha, don't mess with God, especially if you're a Nazi.

Meh.

I’m not a huge fan of using a gun over superhuman strength, but then I’ve never really been a fan of Captain America.He's always struck me as a nutjob that refuses to cooperate with others. The "I'll do what I want and the rest of the world can go hang" attitude he displays is something I've always hated about him.

They should update Captain America's weapons. He should be armed with a torture kit, wire taps and constitution shredder.

Sometimes.... but then again, Bruce Wayne returned to being Batman, and Clark Kent returned to being Superman, etc. etc. etc.
Yet they have shown Batman using a gun, Clark using weapons like the Negative Zone Projector...

Capt has carried guns in the past. it's the fact that he tries to use other ways before resorting to the gun that was his characteristic.

They should update Captain America's weapons. He should be armed with a torture kit, wire taps and constitution shredder.
Capt's pretenscious, condensending attitude and rightous posturing was torturous enough.

Captain America strikes me as nothing more than a propaganda tool.

I think he represents America as it is now! :p

Captain America strikes me as nothing more than a propaganda tool.

For what?

For what?

Erm...the United States Government? Look at him! He's all American flagy and stuff. He's clearly something created to serve as propaganda!

Please note that I have never read any comic books. Ever.

Then you'll love these...


CAPTAIN BRITAIN!!!!
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v260/Katganistan/250px-Captbrit.jpg



And GUARDIAN!!!
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v260/Katganistan/250px-Alpha_flight_89_guardian.jpg?t=1202094531

And GUARDIAN!!!
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v260/Katganistan/250px-Alpha_flight_89_guardian.jpg?t=1202094531

Oh NOOO! His costume has a leaf on it! RUN!

Click Stand;13420676']Oh NOOO! His costume has a leaf on it! RUN!

A MAPLE LEAF! http://www.singforcanada.ca/anthem.html

O Canada!
Our home and native land!
True patriot love in all thy sons command.
With glowing hearts we see thee rise,
The True North strong and free!
From far and wide, O Canada,
We stand on guard for thee.
God keep our land glorious and free!
O Canada, we stand on guard for thee.
O Canada, we stand on guard for thee.

Erm...the United States Government? Look at him! He's all American flagy and stuff. He's clearly something created to serve as propaganda!

Please note that I have never read any comic books. Ever.

He goes against the government quite often. Hell, he died because he did.

He goes against the government quite often. Hell, he died because he did.

I thought he OD on Super Soldier Serum! :p

Well, we see how well that worked originally with the Captain America/US Agent deal some years ago....


This reminds me of the Death of Superman, and Batman being replaced temporarily by Azrael. You just don't kill off the iconic figures; people want them back.

Yep.

It makes perfect sense for Bucky to use a gun however, as he did the 'dirty' work during World War II, and then became the Winter Soldier after being brought back to life by the Soviets.

Edit: Damn, all you Captain America naysayers suck. Captain America is the shit. He's one of the best super heroes ever. You all can go suck Red Skull's cock if you don't like Captain America. (comic book fans should get that...)

I really don't see the issue with a comic hero finally doing the smart thing. I only wish that the writers would have done the smarter thing and let this character stay dead. Yes, I know that this is a new person in the Cap's suit but when no one really dies in comics except the poor normal folk that get crushed under some monster as it's knocked on its back by a super-punch.

Superman should have stayed dead.

Sounds like political commentary to me. Stupid political commentary too.
As if the 'new' America is somehow more aggressive than the 'old' America.
*shrug*
I guess I've spent too much time on NSG :P

Captain America isn't the first Marvel character to use a firearm. Punisher has using them been since his beginning.

Captain America isn't the first Marvel character to use a firearm. Punisher has using them been since his beginning.

Yes, well, Punisher was a maniacal vigilante from his beginning.

Cap has generally avoided lethal force over much of his career.

The Punisher was originally slated to be the new Cap.

Then you'll love these...


CAPTAIN BRITAIN!!!!
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v260/Katganistan/250px-Captbrit.jpg
I see your Captain Britain and raise you one Captain France:

http://i12.photobucket.com/albums/a205/ulteriormotives/Capitaine-France.jpg

EDIT:
And GUARDIAN!!!
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v260/Katganistan/250px-Alpha_flight_89_guardian.jpg?t=1202094531
As to Guardian :rolleyes: :

http://i12.photobucket.com/albums/a205/ulteriormotives/Captain_Canuck1.jpg

Captain Canuck could lick him any day.

Best superhero ever? (http://www.superdickery.com/propaganda/67.html)
The hilarious thing about that is... (http://www.superdickery.com/propaganda/43.html)

What is he using? SMGs? AR? or just Pistols?

Does anybody else here remember the time when Steve Rogers chose to drop the 'Captain America' identity, and became 'Nomad' ("The Man Without A Country"?) instead, as a protest against Watergate?

Some people seem to be upset over Captain America carrying a gun. Is this going too far on either side?

Or is it just annoying hardcore comic fans?

http://abcnews.go.com/GMA/Entertainment/Story?id=4233383&page=1

Given the prevalence of guns in America, I think it's appropriate the Captain America totes one.

Won't be the first time. Lucky Luke had to stop smoking to be PC...

I see your Captain Britain and raise you one Captain France:

http://i12.photobucket.com/albums/a205/ulteriormotives/Capitaine-France.jpg

EDIT:

As to Guardian :rolleyes: :

http://i12.photobucket.com/albums/a205/ulteriormotives/Captain_Canuck1.jpg

Captain Canuck could lick him any day.

It's sad to see so many superheroes fostering nationalism and division.

CAPTAIN EURO to the rescue!

http://www.in-sect.com/scr/captain_euro.jpg

It's sad to see so many superheroes fostering nationalism and division.

CAPTAIN EURO to the rescue!

http://www.in-sect.com/scr/captain_euro.jpgThe problem with that guy is that his "secret" hideout is located in a well known monument...

Some people seem to be upset over Captain America carrying a gun. Is this going too far on either side?

Or is it just annoying hardcore comic fans?

http://abcnews.go.com/GMA/Entertainment/Story?id=4233383&page=1

It's a comic book, why does anyone care?

It's a comic book, why does anyone care?If no one cared, you wouldn't be able to sell the things, now would you? ;)

If no one cared, you wouldn't be able to sell the things, now would you? ;)

point to Laerod

That gun is pussy shit. What he needs is shoulder-launched ICBM.

There's nothing more badass than nuking the shit out of your enemies.

The problem with that guy is that his "secret" hideout is located in a well known monument...

Along with the fact that he looks like a complete douche?

Along with the fact that he looks like a complete douche?Bad as he looks, his tailor still kicks the shit out of Captain Marvel...

Given the prevalence of guns in America, I think it's appropriate the Captain America totes one.

But given that logic they should make him an obese burger-munching invasion monkey...

Bad as he looks, his tailor still kicks the shit out of Captain Marvel...

True as that is, he's still a complete douche.

True as that is, he's still a complete douche.It's what happens when marketing companies make superheroes.

It's what happens when marketing companies make superheroes.

I'm still waiting for Lens Crafters to actually make those comics, like they had on The Simpsons.

Oh yeah, and Cadillacs and Dinosaurs was particularly lame. Thanks a bunch, General Motors. Your contribution(s) to the comic book world will never be forgotten.

Bad as he looks, his tailor still kicks the shit out of Captain Marvel...
Which 'Captain Marvel'? I can think of at least four superbeings who've used that name...

Maybe they should give him a new archnemesis since The Red Skull.

I have an idea.

Captain Jesusland.

I'm still waiting for Lens Crafters to actually make those comics, like they had on The Simpsons.

Oh yeah, and Cadillacs and Dinosaurs was particularly lame. Thanks a bunch, General Motors. Your contribution(s) to the comic book world will never be forgotten.
GM is hardly responsible (http://prehistoricpulp.blogspot.com/2007/08/xenozoic-tales-aka-cadillacs-and.html) for that, it was an independent comic. I don't think Cadillac would by design be the symbol of a dystopic world driven underground by pollution...