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I am a head of state.
The state of Madness.
Otherwise known as.................
But speaking seriously no i wouldn't want to become a state leader, as i wouldn't have any real power to speak of as my advisors and other political parties and the public would limit my options even if they were for beneficial reasons.
So no.

EDIT:My thread now!

See above. As for me, I would not; one would have to make so many backroom deals and put out so much propaganda that to gain such office practically precludes one's being moral.

If they asked me, sure. I wouldn't go out of my way to make sure it happened, though. Not right now.

Not just no, but HELL NO!

Yes. And I reckon I could do a reasonable, if slightly undemocratic;), job.Though the chances of someone like me being given any position of authority is more or less zero. So I won't get my hopes up!

If I could do things my way, sure... Not likely to happen though

Nah, if I was the President, I wouldn't be able to make the changes I want to make. First I have to lead a sucessful rebellion, THEN I would become supreme dictator of America!:p

I'm far too honest to ever make it as a politician, so probably not.

Apart from any sort of serious answer...

..hell no! It appears (http://www.spiegel.de/international/europe/0,1518,530810,00.html) one may not keep a wife who likes to lasciviously frolic on one's couch naked and/or wander around the house in black lace and attired with a whip when one wants to be taken serious as head of state, and I feel that curtails my personal freedoms in too unacceptable a way.

See above. As for me, I would not; one would have to make so many backroom deals and put out so much propaganda that to gain such office practically precludes one's being moral.I've been wondering about that ever since I heard that McCain was born in Panama...
Maybe I do have a shot at the US Presidency...

Only if I was King. It's good to be the King.

Apart from any sort of serious answer...

..hell no! It appears (http://www.spiegel.de/international/europe/0,1518,530810,00.html) one may not keep a wife who likes to lasciviously frolic on one's couch naked and/or wander around the house in black lace and attired with a whip when one wants to be taken serious as head of state, and I feel that curtails my personal freedoms in too unacceptable a way.There is no fundamental right to be taken seriously, especially not for politicians.

if they asked me i would say yes but as i consider myself a right-wing radical it wouldn't happen

Well, I'm already Canada's true monarch. It's just a matter of getting my fellow Canadians to recognize that fact.

I can't even be arsed with the ironing what do you think :p

Why not? I have nothing to lose.

To quote Pogo (and, possibly, some other sensible politician) "If nominated, I will not run. If elected, I will not serve."

I'd rather die.

In a heartbeat....there is so much I'd like to change, so many wrongs I'd like to right, and so much potential I'd like to unleash from this nation and bring us into a bold new future.

In a heartbeat...
Do you have an idea of what your first act as POTUS would be?

Yes, so I could dismantle the state.

Do you have an idea of what your first act as POTUS would be?
Yeah, actually.

I'd submit a proposal to start troop withdrawls from Iraq, and then use the current budget Congress is giving Bush to use in Iraq, to put into the 3 areas I feel are most lacking....education, alternate energy and updating the military (something that Bush has done a pathetic job on, given how much of a military president he has been).

Later on I'd also focus on a few other issues such as:

Making sure that a steady (but reduced and controlable) flow of immigration comes into this country, but we favor educated and skilled workers as opposed to non-skilled or refugees. That is not to say there wouldn't be any of the latter, just that our immigration system would favor the former.

Deportation of illegal immigrants and and coming down on companies that hire them. Creating a system for guest workers to come to the border states and work on the farms there, but they would be watched to make sure they do not just disappear into the nation. This would also make these workers registered (as the government would know who's working) and the corporations would have to pay them atleast minimum wage, less than they would pay an American, probably, but better than these laborers would recieve in Mexico.

Holding rallies and restoring the American faith in the presidency.

Travelling to Europe and addressing European issues, to show that America (and it's government) are not ignorant on the issues in Europe. I'd also give speeches in German, in Central Europe...to sort of make up for the non-internationalism of Bush.

Travel throughout Latin-America and work to create alliances there by offering to invest in their schools, roads, bridges and general infrastucture, in return for better relations and trade rights with their resources. To work on re-shaping the image of America in Latin-America. I'd also give speeches in Spanish to show that our government is very international and again, make up for the non-internationalism of Bush.

And that's just the beginning.

By the way, I can speak German and Spanish..that wasn't just random...though I will admit that I have a way to go before I could give speeches in those langauges (and not look like I was reading)

Is this 'would I be head of state/government if I was asked' or 'do I have the ability to become head of state/government'?

Yes, absolutely. Why not?

Yes, so I could dismantle the state.

Good luck keeping the political elite from savaging your legitimacy. (No, really. I hope you'd be able to do it.) :)

Edit: What are you ideologically, BTW?

Is this 'would I be head of state/government if I was asked' or 'do I have the ability to become head of state/government'?

If you were asked, not if you were able. I would not be able to be head of state/government because I'd be too disagreeable with all the various interests in politics.

in a very different world, and a very different kind of country then the one that mundanely surrounds me, i would at least consider the possibility, but i would probably prefer to serve in a more advisory capacity, one that got listened to certainly, but preferably not one in the direct lightning rod line of fire.

i'd make a great 'hind most' as in the pearson's puppeteers of larry nevin's ringworld.

besides i'd rather have sit in an accoustically isolated compfy chair, surrounded by tecnology consoles, then have to sit in what looks like a crapily tastless musium from which to pronounce decrees from on high.

=^^=
.../\...

Probably not. I would be viciously slandered by the left-wing attack machine in this country. Think Daily Kos and MoveOn.org was bad? Then I'd lose an election because of their continued attacks, and the media (CNN) would be with them, and I'd have a hard time getting my message out.

Of course, if I did win, I'd have them all arrested for sedition within three months. No, sir, liberals wouldn't be in operation for very long if I were in power...

Nah, if I was the President, I wouldn't be able to make the changes I want to make. First I have to lead a sucessful rebellion, THEN I would become supreme dictator of America!:p
Extremely moderate suffering to the bourgeoisie, through our force of pamphlets on cookery!
I'm far too honest to ever make it as a politician, so probably not.
LIAR!:p
Only if I was King. It's good to be the King.
May you be dethroned! The Red army will rise when it can be bothered!
Well, I'm already Canada's true monarch. It's just a matter of getting my fellow Canadians to recognize that fact.
May the oppression of the proletariat be ended!
Yeah, actually.

I'd submit a proposal to start troop withdrawls from Iraq, and then use the current budget Congress is giving Bush to use in Iraq, to put into the 3 areas I feel are most lacking....education, alternate energy and updating the military (something that Bush has done a pathetic job on, given how much of a military president he has been).

Later on I'd also focus on a few other issues such as:

Making sure that a steady (but reduced and controlable) flow of immigration comes into this country, but we favor educated and skilled workers as opposed to non-skilled or refugees. That is not to say there wouldn't be any of the latter, just that our immigration system would favor the former.

Deportation of illegal immigrants and and coming down on companies that hire them. Creating a system for guest workers to come to the border states and work on the farms there, but they would be watched to make sure they do not just disappear into the nation. This would also make these workers registered (as the government would know who's working) and the corporations would have to pay them atleast minimum wage, less than they would pay an American, probably, but better than these laborers would recieve in Mexico.

Holding rallies and restoring the American faith in the presidency.

Travelling to Europe and addressing European issues, to show that America (and it's government) are not ignorant on the issues in Europe. I'd also give speeches in German, in Central Europe...to sort of make up for the non-internationalism of Bush.

Travel throughout Latin-America and work to create alliances there by offering to invest in their schools, roads, bridges and general infrastucture, in return for better relations and trade rights with their resources. To work on re-shaping the image of America in Latin-America. I'd also give speeches in Spanish to show that our government is very international and again, make up for the non-internationalism of Bush.

And that's just the beginning.

By the way, I can speak German and Spanish..that wasn't just random...though I will admit that I have a way to go before I could give speeches in those langauges (and not look like I was reading)
Er death to the...something something
Hmm...er i'd vote for you if i was American?
Yes, absolutely. Why not?
Because the lower classes will rise up through their oppressive government! It's all a lie!;)
A lie i tell you!
May you all suffer from the wrath of extremely small snails! Eurgh i had a mental image of lots of snails crawling over somebodies corpse, ahhhhhh the bourgeoisie snails! i knew it nooooo..............

No. I don't believe in authority, so why would I want to be a part of it?
A good president/head of state/whatever is basically just a good organiser, I know how boring such a job can be.

Can I be the King?

I'd be the grease of the state, allowing everything to easily slide together.

Another 'hell no' here. Now if you could put some puppet on the throne/whatever and I could be the puppeteer then that would be a different matter. Just so long as I can stay out of the public spotlight.

Hmm...er i'd vote for you if i was American?
Thanks...The goal would be for alot of people to vote for me. :p

Absolutely.

By which, I mean I'd do the job (and I think I'd do it well) if offered it, but I doubt anyone would ever want me doing the job.

Absolutely.

By which, I mean I'd do the job (and I think I'd do it well) if offered it, but I doubt anyone would ever want me doing the job.

I'd vote for you (with my magical ability to vote in Canada) if you for for me (with your magical ability to vote in America).
Here's what you'd be voting for.
http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showpost.php?p=13420761&postcount=21

Id run.

Itd never win because Im too liberal for America and Im not a Christian.


But Id run.

Depends what you mean by "head of state." If you mean the ceremonial, Queen Elizabeth II kind, I'd definitely be that. I get to be rich in exchange for waving.
If you mean the real, President Bush/Prime Minister Brown type, I'd still try it, albeit less enthusiastically.

Of course. I'm the only one who can lead this country into a new American Century. And that means change. My most notable position is on immigration. Like:

Creating the Iraqi Confederation (Shia, Sunni, Kurds). Pull troops out dramatically, with residual peacekeeping levels to help somewhat. Bring most of them home, and send the rest to Iraq and UN Peacekeeping Operations. Use the spare money in the bugdet to pay off a few of the more pressing debts, and then use the remainder for augmenting education, the environment, and the economy.

Fix immigration by treating the source: Latin America. Economic aid, rights incentives, et cetera would pave the way for slowing the stem of immigration to more manageable levels. If there own country is better off, we get less illegal immigrants, more skilled immigrants, and the satisfaction of helping the Third World. Push reformation in NAFTA more realistic to the Global Economy by creating guest worker programs.

The environment needs working as well. Give investors a little paycheck to start setting up alternative power sources where ever possible. (AKA more wind farms in the Great Plains, solar power in the deserts, tidal farms in national waters, etc.) Extend this plan to other nations, notably the Sahara nations, to generate energy and hopefully dramatically lower the need of oil and coals as an energy source. This, along with emission caps, should do it here.

Healthcare.

Our children need major work educationally. Lean the emphasis off tests and onto long term effort. Place emphasis on mathematics, science, and the arts. Writing as a living should be seen as an acceptable profession, and by promoting them here, we can help many minds flourish. Give arts scholarships, along with math and science scholarships, to everyone. End Affirmative Action based on race, perhaps altogether or switching to economic background.

And my "other" section. Abortions and gay marrage legally allowed in all states. I wouln't be having such trivialities remain as issues any longer. In this miscellaneous section, I'd also switch to a National Sales Tax, with luxury items, especially the more upscale ones, costing more than foodstuffs and the like. Use the money that this taxation of the poor brings to pay for the more expensive things in the budget. Increase inheritance tax, too. And get some tariffs on some of the worse things, alcohol, tobacco, and the like, and that should be enough to pay for everything, with a healthy amount of debt picking up the slack. This'll probably pick up a bit, as I'd legalize marijuana, dealing a blow to illegal groups by letting legal guys in. End the death penalty, and get all prisoners able to get out and stimulate the economy with some convict labor, instead of just draining the economy.

Creating the Iraqi Confederation (Shia, Sunni, Kurds).

That would work because they don't actually hate each other :rolleyes:

Hell, I can't do much worse than what we've got!

I would.

That would work because they don't actually hate each other :rolleyes:

I think the point was to decentralize the country to the point were the ethnic/religious groups don't feel the need to be at each others throats.


Fix immigration by treating the source: Latin America. Economic aid, rights incentives, et cetera would pave the way for slowing the stem of immigration to more manageable levels. If there own country is better off, we get less illegal immigrants, more skilled immigrants, and the satisfaction of helping the Third World. Push reformation in NAFTA more realistic to the Global Economy by creating guest worker programs.


I hope you realize that this plan is pretty unrealistic. The huge amount of money required to fix Latin America, whose population is double our own... It is far cheaper to build the wall. If you want to keep the illegals out, that is.

See above. As for me, I would not; one would have to make so many backroom deals and put out so much propaganda that to gain such office practically precludes one's being moral.

Given that, apparently, somewhere around half of my country (as represented) is fucking insane or at least moderately-to-dangerously delusional, i'm liable to have a short, short run.
Might be worth it anyway.