OpenPolitics.ca Political Personality Quiz
The Loyal Opposition
02-02-2008, 02:26
I've never seen this quiz posted before, so I thought I'd provide a link:
http://openpolitics.ca/tiki-page.php?pageName=quiz-home
It analyzes your responses according to 5 spectra
Autocratic vs. Democratic
Big Government vs. Small Government
Collectivist vs. Individualist
Idealist vs. Rationalist
Narrow Focus vs. Wide Focus
The quiz identifies which two attributes are one's strongest. Then, based on these combination of measures, the quiz assigns one of 32 personality types, each of which falls into one of 8 philosophies (http://openpolitics.ca/political+personality+types). Be sure to click the "Take me to my political personality profile!" link on the initial results page.
My results are:
Highest Ranking Dimension: Democratic
Second Highest Ranking Dimension: Individualist
Personality Type: DBILN - Cultural Libertarian (http://www.openpolitics.ca/tiki-index.php?page=DSILW)
Philosophy: Independence Democrat (http://openpolitics.ca/Independence+Democrat)
"Independence Democrat is a neologism for an overarching political philosophy which captures a number of less comprehensive political philosophies including anarchism, anarcho-syndicalism, left libertarian. All of these theories envision a minimal state, possibly one whose traditional boundaries have been radically reconfigured, combined with a prevailing egalitarianism."
One thing I don't like is, like every other quiz I've ever seen, the equation of "social welfare" with "big state."
Conserative Morality
02-02-2008, 02:32
Highest ranking dimension: Small Government
Second highest ranking dimension: Individualist
Personality Type: Anti-Nationist
Very accurate quiz. I forgot my personality and I'm too lazy to take the test again though!
DBIRW: Rousseau Democrat. Not a bad categorization.
The South Islands
02-02-2008, 02:37
Interesting.
DSIRW - Anti-Nationalist
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Not anarchists but something like it, anti-nationalists are sincerely disappointed by the current political world order. These thinkers care much more about quality of life than they do about patriotism, and are likely willing to make do with far less centralized/state power, if it makes empowering the individual more likely. Anti-nationalists take a transformative view of government, favoring anarchism or democratic reform. They are likely to develop plans for a new world order.
It pegged me pretty well.
Lame Bums
02-02-2008, 02:43
Highest ranking dimension: Autocratic
You believe in strong leadership. You may have felt that what the country really needs is for someone to really take charge and break out of the inertia. This may be because you have strong opinions of which you are confident, and like to see political leaders who are like you. It may also be because you are suspicious of the ability of groups, especially large groups to make tough decisions. Others may disagree with you because they trust people less than they trust the "rules of procedure", because they have issues with authority, or because that they feel that "government just doesn’t listen." When politicians of your type make mistakes it is often because they try to fit a simple solution on a complex problem.
Second highest ranking dimension: Literalist
You believe that "good", "evil", "justice" and "injustice" exist in the world and people need to take a stand. You may have felt that what the country really needs is a politician with a functioning moral compass. This may be because you have seen what happens when "everything is permitted". It may also be because society is being undermined by people for whom numbers are the measure of everything. Others may disagree with you because they tend to rationalize everything, and don’t have a vision for a better society . When politicians of your type make mistakes it is because they just can’t deal with others who don’t share their faith or beliefs.
Personality Type: ABCLW - Missionary (http://www.openpolitics.ca/tiki-index.php?page=ABCLW)
Philosophy: Statist
"Misionaries combine strong leadership with a firm committment to an overarching ideology, either religious, or nationalist, or ideological. This commitment is expressed by contributions or voluntary service to the group. The best qualities of this type are the ability to practice self dicipline, determination and committment to one's beliefs."
Actually pretty accurate, I am impressed.
Swilatia
02-02-2008, 02:49
Highest ranking dimension: Individualist
Second highest ranking dimension: Democratic
Personality Type: DSILW - Cultural Libertarian
Philosophy: Independence Democrat
Knights of Liberty
02-02-2008, 03:18
Highest ranking dimension: Individualist
You believe in the right of an individual to "be themself" in thought and deeds. You may have felt that what the country really needs is a politician with the nerve to tell people when it comes to controlling others, they should mind their own business. This may be because you enjoy a diversity of experiences and don’t get offended easily. It may also be because you’ve seen people be persecuted. Others may disagree with you because they feel a right to protect what they see as community values. When politicians of your type make mistakes it is often because they underestimate people’s need for stability and safety.
Second highest ranking dimension: Democratic
You believe in the principles of democracy - that too much control by too few is a dangerous proposition You may have felt that what the country really needs is to open the corridors of power and let more "real people" inside. This may be because you have seen people treated unfairly, seen self interest take over people’s judgment and wish that political leaders would lead by following the people’s wishes. It may also be because you see that the people who tend to get elected don’t represent the diversity of viewpoints and cultures that exist in the population. Others may disagree with you because they are impatient to see politicians "do something", and possibly because they are less inclined to do their own thinking about the issues. When politicians of your type make mistakes it is often because in an attempt to please everybody, they please nobody.
DBILW - Internationalist
Philosophy- Liberal Democrat
Description
This personality is a “democracy without borders” point of view that promotes human rights and seeks a just and progressive world order.
This personality type combines these five perspectives:
democrat, big state, individualist, idealist, wide focus.
Likes
sensitivity to inequalities of power and influence
prefers negotiation to use of force.
government support for people or industries who experience misfortune
looking to scriptures, rights, or treaties.
society is in need of a "paradigm shift."
Dislikes
overt patriotism
working from overly abstract “models.”
addressing the symptoms rather than the "root causes."
Issues
for: UN reform, civil rights, fair trade, public education, public health care, same-sex marriage
against: arms trade, war on terror, war on drugs, death penalty, free trade
Its pretty much dead on.
Soviestan
02-02-2008, 03:25
It says I'm a Rousseau Democrat, or for the purposes of the poll, a liberal democrat. I don't think I see myself as that, but there we go.
Jello Biafra
02-02-2008, 03:40
"Liberal democrat". It's accurate enough, I suppose, given the quiz's limitations.
Highest ranking dimension: Democratic
Second highest ranking dimension: Big Government
Potarius
02-02-2008, 03:42
After page three, the questions start to get really ridiculous... Though it gave me "Rousseau Democrat", which is actually quite accurate, at least for the most part.
Brutland and Norden
02-02-2008, 03:46
Highest ranking dimension: Democratic
Second highest ranking dimension: Wide Focus
* Autocratic vs. Democratic
* Big Government vs. Small Government
* Collectivist vs. Individualist
* Literalist vs. Rationalist
* Narrow Focus vs. Wide Focus
* Human Centric vs. Ecocentric
Philosophy: Communitarian Democrat
Celtlund II
02-02-2008, 04:03
I absolutely do not agree with the results that were not in the poll. :(
DSIRW - Anti-Nationalist
On the other hand I am a bit disgusted with both political parties.
http://www.openpolitics.ca/tiki-index.php?page=DSIRW
Maybe I am becoming a true Libertarian. http://www.lp.org/
Good quiz. I like it.
Neu Leonstein
02-02-2008, 04:13
http://openpolitics.ca/tiki-page.php?pageName=quiz-home
Highest ranking dimension: Small Government
You believe in a government that keeps order but otherwise stays out of the way. You may have felt that what the country really needs is a government with the courage to take on some of the "sacred cows" of government spending. This may be because you have been irked by how much you pay in taxes. It may also be because you feel that excessive government support programs reward those with no initiative. Others may disagree with you because they see some people as having the system stacked against them. When politicians of your type make mistakes it is because they find it difficult to maintain the "tough love" approach when their friends and supporters ask for help.
Second highest ranking dimension: Individualist
You believe in the right of an individual to "be themself" in thought and deeds. You may have felt that what the country really needs is a politician with the nerve to tell people when it comes to controlling others, they should mind their own business. This may be because you enjoy a diversity of experiences and don’t get offended easily. It may also be because you’ve seen people be persecuted. Others may disagree with you because they feel a right to protect what they see as community values. When politicians of your type make mistakes it is often because they underestimate people’s need for stability and safety.
Combined statement:
Based on your answers, you would prefer a state for pioneers, innovators and rugged individualism.
How you measured up:
Autocratic v Democratic
Big Government v Small Government
Collectivist v Individualist
Literalist v Rationalist
Narrow Focus v Wide Focus
Human-centric v Ecocentric
Philosophy: DSIRW - Anti-Nationalist
I am very impressed with this quiz. Certainly one of the best ones I've come across. It judged me just about perfectly.
Neu Leonstein
02-02-2008, 04:19
DBIRW: Rousseau Democrat. Not a bad categorization.
Lol, the only difference between us is one category.
Free Soviets
02-02-2008, 04:22
DBIRW: Rousseau Democrat. Not a bad categorization.
me too.
apparently there are some anarchistic options, but they've got them all linked up to being 'small-state' and they've got that linked up to saying yay free market, boo government spending on infrastructure and healthcare.
I do have no 'ideology', 'ideologies' naturally are abstract meta psychical constructs with no bearing in reality, I subscribe to the only objective scientific reality, Marxism-Leninism. This reality renders null and void any silly French left/right false dichotomies or Western style polarized politics.
Neu Leonstein
02-02-2008, 04:27
apparently there are some anarchistic options, but they've got them all linked up to being 'small-state' and they've got that linked up to saying yay free market, boo government spending on infrastructure and healthcare.
Or they realise that the state and government are not necessarily the same thing. Considering that a left anarchist spends a lot of time in collective decisionmaking procedures of one form or another, you really are still part of a state, even if there is no physical government.
I do have no 'ideology', 'ideologies' naturally are abstract meta psychical constructs with no bearing in reality, I subscribe to the only objective scientific reality, Marxism-Leninism. This reality renders null and void any silly French left/right false dichotomies or Western style polarized politics.
This is a political personality quiz, not an ideology quiz. The gag is in the dimensions.
So take the test, goddammit.
Kryozerkia
02-02-2008, 04:38
Philosophy: Liberal Democrat
Highest ranking dimension: Individualist
Second highest ranking dimension: Big Government
HotRodia
02-02-2008, 04:43
I'm an anarchist, apparently. Oh, and I like absolutes. Neither of which is even remotely true.
Free Soviets
02-02-2008, 04:48
Or they realise that the state and government are not necessarily the same thing. Considering that a left anarchist spends a lot of time in collective decisionmaking procedures of one form or another, you really are still part of a state, even if there is no physical government.
assuming we use the distinction, it goes the other way. we'd still have government, just no state. but in either case they've got it linked up wrong in the quiz.
Neu Leonstein
02-02-2008, 04:52
assuming we use the distinction, it goes the other way. we'd still have government, just no state. but in either case they've got it linked up wrong in the quiz.
I suspect they just wanted to use the easily understandable "big government" tag line. It depends on the particular definitions they use whether or not it makes sense.
Nonetheless I'd think a case could be made a left anarchist, because he is constantly involved in various councils and has to either submit to their judgements or leave, is in the presence of and (to an extent) directed by an all-pervasive representation of the community's interests as a whole. Hence my question in another thread whether such a thing as anti-authoritarian totalitarianism is possible and whether this would be the definition of it. And in that case, whatever definition you use, a left libertarian would be on the "big" end of the axis compared to a right libertarian.
Of course the latter might still have some sort of enforcement of negative liberties but the justification for and implication of that goes in a very different direction.
Sel Appa
02-02-2008, 04:59
Highest ranking dimension: Autocratic
You believe in strong leadership. You may have felt that what the country really needs is for someone to really take charge and break out of the inertia. This may be because you have strong opinions of which you are confident, and like to see political leaders who are like you. It may also be because you are suspicious of the ability of groups, especially large groups to make tough decisions. Others may disagree with you because they trust people less than they trust the "rules of procedure", because they have issues with authority, or because that they feel that "government just doesn’t listen." When politicians of your type make mistakes it is often because they try to fit a simple solution on a complex problem.
Second highest ranking dimension: Big Government
You believe in the power of government to make life better. You may have felt that what the country really needs is for the government to get serious about the many problems that people face. This may be because you have seen the system break down and know people who have fallen through the cracks. It may also be because you feel that our society is at risk our communities need better protection from internal and external dangers. Others may disagree with you because they are focused on what government does wrong, rather than what it does right. When politicians of your type make mistakes it is often because they create programs that solve one problem but create others.
Combined statement:
Based on your answers, you are happy with the idea of a powerful leader running a big state - someone who can make the trains run on time.
More or less, yeah that's me.
This quiz had some ridiculous questions like:
Switzerland’s GDP is worth approximately 2.5 trillion dollars annually (how is this an opinion?)
I’ve given money to a local school or hospital this year. (It's either yes or no, not sort of yes and sort of no)
Trees should be able to vote. (Random)
DBILN - American Liberal
Highest ranking dimension: Individualist
Second highest ranking dimension: Literalist
Combined statement:
Based on your answers, you would like to see a system of government that supports "mini states" where people with shared values could live by their own creed.
Free Soviets
02-02-2008, 05:06
And in that case, whatever definition you use, a left libertarian would be on the "big" end of the axis compared to a right libertarian.
well, sure. the problem that i'm getting at is that the quiz has a couple of lefty libertarian types.
DSIRN - Left Libertarian
DSCRW - Syndicalist
DSCLW - Classical Utopian
it's all S's, and the way they use the term isn't really reflective of the beliefs of those.
http://openpolitics.ca/small+state
Fleckenstein
02-02-2008, 05:17
Highest ranking dimension: Literalist
You believe that "good", "evil", "justice" and "injustice" exist in the world and people need to take a stand. You may have felt that what the country really needs is a politician with a functioning moral compass. This may be because you have seen what happens when "everything is permitted". It may also be because society is being undermined by people for whom numbers are the measure of everything. Others may disagree with you because they tend to rationalize everything, and don’t have a vision for a better society . When politicians of your type make mistakes it is because they just can’t deal with others who don’t share their faith or beliefs.
Second highest ranking dimension: Wide Focus
You believe that people should look at the big picture before making decisions. You may have felt that what the country really needs is a government that can focus on the big issues that will be affecting everyone of the next 100 years. This may be because you have seen too much spending on the "symptoms" rather than the underlying causes. It may also be because you feel that wealthy countries have a responsibility to the rest of the world. Others may disagree with you because they don’t want to set aside their own needs for the needs of others far away. When politicians of your type make mistakes it is often because they can be too optimistic about their ability to make a difference.
Combined statement:
Based on your answers, you believe that government should redirect a lot of its effort to creating better citizens.
DBCLW - "Hippie" Socialist
this is one of the political personality types of the PPQ
Description
This kind of egalitarian is focuses on building collective institutions as the foundation of society, be they religious or secular. In this view, the individual serves the collective more than the other way around. Individuals are expected to contribute to achieve collective group or national goals. Contributions can be in monetary gifts, taxes or volunteer service, depending on the group. Group solidarity is strong around a creed, culture, or philosophy. Can include intentional and religious communities. Some types of people in this group will reject the title of "Hippie" because it conflicts with religious or cultural values.
Dimensions
This personality type combines these five perspectives
democrat, big state, collectivist, idealist, wide focus
This type is just one away from:
ABCLW, DSCLW, DBILW, DBCRW, DBCLN
Likes and dislikes
like:
* identify strongly with religious, ethnic or cultural groups
* enjoy public celebrations
* society needs a "paradigm shift"
* change needs to happen at the national or international level, until then local activism is just "spitting against the wind".
* favoring fairness over "efficiency"
dislike:
* vesting too much power in individuals
* decisions made in a hurry.
* tax cuts, particularly on high income individuals or corporations.
* people who flout "community standards".
Philosophy: Socialism
Alternate Nicknames: (suggest a different nickname for this type)
Issues to visit:
The following issues may be of interest to you. Visit and edit these pages to reflect your beliefs.
for: animal welfare,affirmative action?, public education, income support programs?, public health care, same-sex marriage
against: arms trade, death penalty, war on drugs?, nuclear proliferation?, racism, corruption, bretton woods system
Famous Hippie Socialist
John Lennon
Abbie Hoffman
Lisa Simpson
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John Lennon? Sweet. Overall, it's very very close. Maybe one or two disagreements.
The Loyal Opposition
02-02-2008, 05:19
it's all S's, and the way they use the term isn't really reflective of the beliefs of those.
http://openpolitics.ca/small+state
"They view the free market as essentially a "fair game" that rewards those who are smart and who work hard."
Sure, left libertarian types reject the "free market" as the concept is understood by (state) capitalist types. But I've always asserted myself that with their support for democracy, egalitarianism, and rejection of centralized power, the general left libertarian or libertarian socialist school of thought best exemplifies the free market process in that it promotes free choice and voluntary association.
I insist that I swung over to the left hand side of the grid exactly because I wanted a society that actually resembles a market. In order for a market to exist, I must be capable of free choices; I cannot be compelled by physical coersion outright, or by the circumstance of not being able to afford alternative choices.
(granted, all of the above is probably more my own rationalization than what the quiz makers actually believe themselves. I complained about the apparent "social welfare == big state" equation myself.)
ASCLW - Social Conservative
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this is one of the political personality types of the PPQ
Description
This is the archetype of social conservatives, upholding a traditional social view, and favoring "tough love" approaches to economic and social issues.
lol wut?
I refuse to so this test, as I do with any spectrum of the like political test, my views cannot be expressed in such a crude medium.
HotRodia
02-02-2008, 06:18
I refuse to so this test, as I do with any spectrum of the like political test, my views cannot be expressed in such a crude medium.
What, you want 4-dimensional modeling instead?
Highest ranking dimension: Individualist
Second highest ranking dimension: Big Government
ABILW - Hollywood Republican
What? this is all wrong.
Let hell I'm like Reagan
Edit: I took the test again and got everything the same but more stronger; rather then being a Hollywood republican I'm a Brettonist..
UN Protectorates
02-02-2008, 07:00
I refuse to so this test, as I do with any spectrum of the like political test, my views cannot be expressed in such a crude medium.
Oh come on. Give it a try. Aren't you curious?
As for me;
Highest ranking dimension: Big government
Second highest ranking dimension: Wide Focus
Political personality: Internationalist
Political philosophy: Liberal Democrat
Which I would say is relatively accurate.
New Manvir
02-02-2008, 07:21
Highest ranking dimension: Democratic
Second highest ranking dimension: Big Government
Combined statement:
Based on your answers, you are big on a "by the people for the people government" that takes good care of its citizens.
That makes me: American Liberal
for: social security, civil rights, free trade, public education, separation of church and state, public health care, homeland security, same-sex marriage
against: arms trade, electoral fraud?, tax reform, death penalty
I'm a Liberal Democrat on the poll
Maineiacs
02-02-2008, 07:43
Highest ranking dimension: Big Government
Second highest ranking dimension: Democratic
Political personality type: DBILW Internationalist
Philosophy: Liberal Democrat
ColaDrinkers
02-02-2008, 07:45
Highest ranking dimension: Individualist
Second highest ranking dimension: Small Government
Philosophy: Independence Democrat
Sort of accurate I guess.
Highest Trait: Individualism
Second Highest Trait: Small Government
Political Philosophy: Independence Democrat.
I like it.
Left Libertarian politics combines economic freedoms with reformist democratic institutions - small state, anti-corporate, civil liberties.
Highest ranking dimension: Small Government
Second highest ranking dimension: Narrow Focus
Based on your answers, you would like a kind of "supermarket government" where you could use your taxes to buy only what you want and leave the rest on the shelf.
like:
* feel less accountable to the social standards of others
* tolerate experimenting with drugs and alcohol
* people who "make do" on their own
* working to get a “wise decision” even if it takes longer.
dislike:
* worrying about being popular or fashionable.
* subsidies for industry
* secrecy and the withholding of information.
Political Philosophy: Independence Democrat
Java-Minang
02-02-2008, 08:43
Highest ranking dimension: Collectivist
You believe that community and tradition are what holds this society together. You may have felt that what the country really needs is a politician who will pay more than lipservice to the importance of protecting communities. It may also be because you feel that modern society is making everything consumable or disposable. Others may disagree with you because they’ve seem people being persecuted for "doing their own thing" When politicians of your type make mistakes it is often because that which they would try to banish just "goes underground".
Second highest ranking dimension: Rationalist
You believe in the power of reason to solve problems. You may have felt that what the country really needs is a leader who will honest about the costs and benefits of things. You may have felt that what the country really needs is to stop wasting time and money on silly hot button issues. This may be because you have been annoyed by people who get disproportionately excited about issues that won’t make much difference to people’s lives no matter how they are decided. It may also be because you see too many squeaky wheels getting too much grease. Others may disagree with you because they have an emotional attachment to their positions and don’t see things in an objective way. When politicians of your type make mistakes because what they perceive as "logical" comes across as "confusing" or "uncaring", and they can’t win people over.
Autocratic
Big Government
Collectivist
Rationalist
Narrow Focus
Human Centric
ABCRN - Bolshevist
Description
Bolshevists such as V. I. Lenin promoted what became the model for the Soviet Socialist Republic, a centralized state which planned economic and social progress.
Dimensions
This personality type combines these five perspectives
authoritarian,big state?, collectivist, rationalist, narrow focus
Likes and dislikes
like:
* doubting in the capability of the average person to make wise decisions.
* seeing politics as a competition of willpower and resources
* expanding the range of public insurance programs (employment insurance, old age pensions, medicare and disability programs)
* seeking long term "efficiency" and productivity
* a state to focus on basic needs – food, housing, health, jobs
dislike:
* distributing powers to other jurisdictions.
* placing personal rights before the community interest.
* any emphasis on personal "feelings" because they are subjective.
Philosophy: Statist
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Wow! I'm a sovietist!
Highest ranking dimension: Small Government
You believe in a government that keeps order but otherwise stays out of the way. You may have felt that what the country really needs is a government with the courage to take on some of the "sacred cows" of government spending. This may be because you have been irked by how much you pay in taxes. It may also be because you feel that excessive government support programs reward those with no initiative. Others may disagree with you because they see some people as having the system stacked against them. When politicians of your type make mistakes it is because they find it difficult to maintain the "tough love" approach when their friends and supporters ask for help.
This is slightly wrong. I don't believe that government should keep order; I feel it is a danger to order itself by endangering liberty.
Second highest ranking dimension: Individualist
You believe in the right of an individual to "be themself" in thought and deeds. You may have felt that what the country really needs is a politician with the nerve to tell people when it comes to controlling others, they should mind their own business. This may be because you enjoy a diversity of experiences and don’t get offended easily. It may also be because you’ve seen people be persecuted. Others may disagree with you because they feel a right to protect what they see as community values. When politicians of your type make mistakes it is often because they underestimate people’s need for stability and safety.
Sounds about right. Though I don't believe that politicians should exist, actually.
Combined statement:
Based on your answers, you would prefer a state for pioneers, innovators and rugged individualism.
Indeed.
Whatwhatia
02-02-2008, 09:57
Happily libertarian.
Highest ranking dimension: Big Government
You believe in the power of government to make life better. You may have felt that what the country really needs is for the government to get serious about the many problems that people face. This may be because you have seen the system break down and know people who have fallen through the cracks. It may also be because you feel that our society is at risk our communities need better protection from internal and external dangers. Others may disagree with you because they are focused on what government does wrong, rather than what it does right. When politicians of your type make mistakes it is often because they create programs that solve one problem but create others.
Second highest ranking dimension: Individualist
You believe in the right of an individual to "be themself" in thought and deeds. You may have felt that what the country really needs is a politician with the nerve to tell people when it comes to controlling others, they should mind their own business. This may be because you enjoy a diversity of experiences and don’t get offended easily. It may also be because you’ve seen people be persecuted. Others may disagree with you because they feel a right to protect what they see as community values. When politicians of your type make mistakes it is often because they underestimate people’s need for stability and safety.
Combined statement:
Based on your answers, the best state for you is one where people’s basic needs are well looked after and people are free to pursue creative and fulfilling lives.
Damn right. :D
DBILW - Internationalist
this is one of the political personality types of the PPQ
Description
This personality is a “democracy without borders” point of view that promotes human rights and seeks a just and progressive world order.
Dimensions
This personality type combines these five perspectives:
democrat, big state, individualist, idealist, wide focus.
Likes and dislikes
Likes
* sensitivity to inequalities of power and influence
* prefers negotiation to use of force.
* government support for people or industries who experience misfortune
* looking to scriptures, rights, or treaties.
* society is in need of a "paradigm shift."
Dislikes
* overt patriotism
* working from overly abstract “models.”
* addressing the symptoms rather than the "root causes."
Philosophy: Liberal Democrat
And among the famous Internationalists is M.K. Gandhi. :>
After page three, the questions start to get really ridiculous... Though it gave me "Rousseau Democrat", which is actually quite accurate, at least for the most part.
I thought that too for a moment, but I think the ridiculous and abstract nature of some of the questions are designed to prevent us from over-thinking them, or subconsciously skewing the outcome of the test to our liking.
Dododecapod
02-02-2008, 11:27
ASILW - Victorianism
this is one of the political personality types of the PPQ
Description
The English "Victorian" social tradition combined a recognition of, and acceptance of, hierarchy? with self dependence as a moral imperative. This political philosphy tolerates elitism? in the pursuit of individualism?. Victorians expressed the need to “keep a stiff upper lip”, relying on charity? rather than a social safety net, and opposing (at least overtly) intervention in the economy. Deep and sincere religious belief is often part of this belief system, as well as an obligation of elites to serve the poor, though voluntarily. The arts were used predominantly for moral expressions.
Military service is respected and admired as one of the few civic obligations that is accepted as inevitable.
typical modern forms
In terms of today's politics, the ASILW often allies with right-wing politics? of social conservatives and classic liberal?s. In power, they often alienate libertarian allies.
[+] Historical context
While the historical Victorians are sometimes derided as racist, imperialist?, sexist? and sexually repressed?, not without reason, they clearly ran the British Empire? much more equitably than comparable transnational "Empires" of the time, and states that emerged from this Empire in the 1940s to 1960s, today's British Commonwealth?, were relatively well-prepared for democracy. In addition, the Victorians ruled an Empire more than half Muslim?, with all the Hindu?s in the world subject to it at one point. The most notable Prime Minister of the UK? at this time, Benjamin Disraeli?, was Jewish. The late Roman Empire? had a comparable record for diversity 1500 years earlier. However, it did not unravel so peacefully. Of contemporaries of the Victorians such as Imperial Russia? and the Empire of Japan? and French colonies?, perhaps only the German Empire? - a relatively late entrant - had a better track record of managing colonial holdings - and it was building largely on the British example and improving it.
Domestically, the Victorians' engineering and scientific achievements were nothing short of awe-inspiring. Culturally, an independent judiciary?, rule of law?, freedom of the press?, freedom of association?, freedom of worship? and other key human rights and guaranty institutions were initially protected by British and British-founded polities.
From Victorianism to US Neo-Conservatism.
Today's U.S. instantiation of this movement are known as 'neo-conservatives' and may likewise have inherited a Pax America?. In foreign policy, neo-conservatives advocate unilateralism? and encouraging states to adopt monetarism?, e.g. International Monetary Fund methods.
Modern neo-conservatives spearheaded US reforms of the welfare system in the 1990's, encouraged globalization of trade and capital investment? and sought to reduce entitlement program?s in general.
Neo-conservatism in its modern form holds that the free market is preferable to the public sector in providing pretty much everything - it's an outlier example of neoclassical economics that goes far beyond the economics of that position, seeking to privatize? services like school?s, water system?s and sometimes road?s.
In Latin America? the militarist and elite elements of ASILW thinking aligned strongly with the Roman Catholic Church? in the 1980s. These forces fell into steep decline however through the 1990s. Many church forces continue to favour liberation theology?, alignment with left-wing politics? including electorally, as the military and economic elites - many of whom had US ties - turned increasingly to Protestant evangelical? churches with US funding.
In Canada there is clearly less military influence on politics and therefore ASILW thinking tends to be muted in favour of more libertarian forms. There simply is no military class holding over from a prior empire, nor seeking to build a current empire, at least, not by authoritarian means, though perhaps by seductive means - see democratic imperialism?, humanitarian aid?, nation-building?, peacekeeping?, women's rights. This may simply be a more refined Victorian or Elizabethan form of thinking, in which the explicit figure and mode of power is inherently female, and the use of power is confined to support of "feminized" goals or even explicitly in support of women as the arbiters of justice?.
possible future forms
In Neal Stephenson?'s fiction?al novel, The Diamond Age?, his Neo-Victorians excelled at difficult and dangerous engineering projects requiring precision, indoctrination of the young, and exploiting hypocrisies and failings among the elite to increase the leverage of the rulers, or Equity Lords, to get their diplomatic dirty work done.
Dimensions
This personality type combines these five perspectives
authoritarian,small state?, individualist, idealist, wide focus.
Likes and dislikes
like:
* cutting red tape
* religious or moralistic approaches to social concerns
* free markets and private property
* "well-prepared elites" to guide the mases
* advocating change at the national or international level
* Noblesse oblige
dislike:
* being accountable to community standards
* putting too much trust in statistics or science.
* addressing the symptoms rather than the "root causes"
* fiscal spending
* welfare over individuals 'own-effort'
Philosophy: Libertarian, Social Conservativism, Liberal-Conservatism
Alternate Nicknames: Neo-conservatives
Issues to visit:
The following issues may be of interest to you. Visit and edit these pages to reflect your beliefs.
debt relief for poor countries arms trade international treaties? social contract terrorism weapons of mass destruction? World Bank climate change habitat conservation pollution copyright? file sharing? freedom of information genetic engineering privacy tax reform globalization property rights trade urban sprawl gridlock foreign ownership? corporate social responsibility? consumer rights?
immigration multiculturalism? legalization of marijuana abortion affirmative action
(please add/remove an issue)
Famous ASILW types
English Victorian:
* Benjamin Disraeli
American "neocon":
* Paul Wolfowitz
* Newt Gingrich
* David Horowitz
* Dick Cheney
* Richard Perle
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I think I'm closer to the "Victorian" than the "Neo-Con". Plus I stretch the boundaries a bit by being an Atheist.
I always did like Disraeli...
Highest ranking dimension: Democratic
You believe in the principles of democracy - that too much control by too few is a dangerous proposition You may have felt that what the country really needs is to open the corridors of power and let more "real people" inside. This may be because you have seen people treated unfairly, seen self interest take over people’s judgment and wish that political leaders would lead by following the people’s wishes. It may also be because you see that the people who tend to get elected don’t represent the diversity of viewpoints and cultures that exist in the population. Others may disagree with you because they are impatient to see politicians "do something", and possibly because they are less inclined to do their own thinking about the issues. When politicians of your type make mistakes it is often because in an attempt to please everybody, they please nobody.
Second highest ranking dimension: Individualist
You believe in the right of an individual to "be themself" in thought and deeds. You may have felt that what the country really needs is a politician with the nerve to tell people when it comes to controlling others, they should mind their own business. This may be because you enjoy a diversity of experiences and don’t get offended easily. It may also be because you’ve seen people be persecuted. Others may disagree with you because they feel a right to protect what they see as community values. When politicians of your type make mistakes it is often because they underestimate people’s need for stability and safety.
Combined statement:
Based on your answers, the ideal state, in your opinion, is one where people are free to be themselves.
velry in ter est ing.
nota bada
Description
This personality is a “democracy without borders” point of view that promotes human rights and seeks a just and progressive world order.
yup
Likes
* sensitivity to inequalities of power and influence
* prefers negotiation to use of force.
* government support for people or industries who experience misfortune
* looking to scriptures, rights, or treaties.
* society is in need of a "paradigm shift."
Dislikes
* overt patriotism
* working from overly abstract “models.”
* addressing the symptoms rather than the "root causes."
very!
=^^=
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Corpracia
02-02-2008, 16:15
Highest ranking dimension: Rationalist
Second highest ranking dimension: Individualist
Political personality: Anti-Nationalist
Political philosophy: Independence Democrat
Not too bad.
Mad hatters in jeans
02-02-2008, 16:33
Highest ranking dimension: Democratic
Second highest ranking dimension: Collectivist
Swedish Socialism
like:
systemic changes can happen if large numbers of people make small contributions.
those who break the law (not really)
highly aware of what is trendy (not really)
dislike:
addressing the symptoms rather than the "root causes".
single issue politics
tax cuts, particularly on high income individuals or corporations. (eh that's wrong)
"leader worship" or the cult of personality?
rebellion for the sake of rebellion
Not really that accurate. Maybe i didn't think about the questions.
Dontletmedown
02-02-2008, 16:37
Highest ranking dimension: Individualist
You believe in the right of an individual to "be themself" in thought and deeds. You may have felt that what the country really needs is a politician with the nerve to tell people when it comes to controlling others, they should mind their own business. This may be because you enjoy a diversity of experiences and don’t get offended easily. It may also be because you’ve seen people be persecuted. Others may disagree with you because they feel a right to protect what they see as community values. When politicians of your type make mistakes it is often because they underestimate people’s need for stability and safety.
Second highest ranking dimension: Small Government
You believe in a government that keeps order but otherwise stays out of the way. You may have felt that what the country really needs is a government with the courage to take on some of the "sacred cows" of government spending. This may be because you have been irked by how much you pay in taxes. It may also be because you feel that excessive government support programs reward those with no initiative. Others may disagree with you because they see some people as having the system stacked against them. When politicians of your type make mistakes it is because they find it difficult to maintain the "tough love" approach when their friends and supporters ask for help.
Combined statement:
Based on your answers, you would prefer a state for pioneers, innovators and rugged
Description
Left Libertarian politics combines economic freedoms with reformist democratic institutions - small state, anti-corporate, civil liberties.
Dimensions
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This personality type combines these five perspectives
democrat ,small state, individualist, idealist, narrow focus
Likes and dislikes
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like:
feel less accountable to the social standards of others
tolerate experimenting with drugs and alcohol
people who "make do" on their own
working to get a “wise decision” even if it takes longer.
dislike:
worrying about being popular or fashionable.
subsidies for industry
secrecy and the withholding of information.
Independence Democrat is a neologism for an overarching political philosophy which captures a number of less comprehensive political philosophies including anarchism anarcho-syndicalism?, left libertarian?. All of these theories envision a minimal state, possibly one whose traditional boundaries have been radically reconfigured, combined with a prevailing egalitarianism?.
Lots of fun and pretty accurate. Definetly me, but I must have answered one of the questions backwards-I have no clue where this egalitarian non sense came from.
Anti-Social Darwinism
02-02-2008, 17:14
This is about right for me, unfortunately it's impractical in a large, industrialized country.
DSILN - Town Hall Democrat
Description
Town Hall Democrats are independent minded social and economic freedom lovers prefer local control rather than distant bureaucracies, even if it means a less extensive social safety net. This type of individual would prefer that all problems be able to be sorted out in town hall meetings (preferrably within walking distance). The implication is that they would favor the dismantling or reorganizing of government to provide something more like corner store service to the people.
Dimensions
This personality type combines these five perspectives
democrat,small state?, individualist, idealist, narrow focus
Likes and dislikes
like:
less interference in the free market
people who "make do" on their own
doing away with arbitrary rules.
enforcing their right to privacy
seeing issues as a collection of stories
seeing things as absolutes
dislike:
secrecy and the withholding of information.
subsidies for industry
expanding the bureaucracy?.
trying to make everyone dance to the same tune.
Philosophy: Independence Democrat
Famous Town Hall Democrats
Thomas Jefferson
John Sewell
Stompin Tom Connors
Brandesax
02-02-2008, 17:18
Highest ranking dimension: Narrow Focus
You believe that the most important things in life are those closest to you, family friends and good times. You may have felt that what the country really needs is a government that can get the basics right education, health and jobs. This may be because you feel you’ve found it more of a struggle these days to stay ahead. It may also be because you’ve been really disappointed by the quality of public services in your community. Others may disagree with you because they aren’t as aware of the problems in the community. A challenge for you: When politicians of your type make mistakes it is often because they can sometimes sacrifice long range goals for short term fixes.
Second highest ranking dimension: Individualist
You believe in the right of an individual to "be themself" in thought and deeds. You may have felt that what the country really needs is a politician with the nerve to tell people when it comes to controlling others, they should mind their own business. This may be because you enjoy a diversity of experiences and don’t get offended easily. It may also be because you’ve seen people be persecuted. Others may disagree with you because they feel a right to protect what they see as community values. When politicians of your type make mistakes it is often because they underestimate people’s need for stability and safety.
Combined statement:
Based on your answers, you would like a government that customized its public services tailor-made to fit the needs of individuals
DSILN - Town Hall Democrat
Description
Town Hall Democrats are independent minded social and economic freedom lovers prefer local control rather than distant bureaucracies, even if it means a less extensive social safety net. This type of individual would prefer that all problems be able to be sorted out in town hall meetings (preferrably within walking distance). The implication is that they would favor the dismantling or reorganizing of government to provide something more like corner store service to the people
Dimensions
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This personality type combines these five perspectives
democrat,small state, individualist, idealist, narrow focus
Likes and dislikes
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like:
less interference in the free market
people who "make do" on their own
doing away with arbitrary rules.
enforcing their right to privacy
seeing issues as a collection of stories
seeing things as absolutes
dislike:
secrecy and the withholding of information.
subsidies for industry
expanding the bureaucracy
trying to make everyone dance to the same tune.
Philosophy: Independence Democrat
Issues to visit:
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The following issues may be of interest to you. Visit and edit these pages to reflect your beliefs.
tobacco,affirmative action,civil rights,entrepreneurship,assisted suicide food security,freedom of religion,welfare,corporate governance,direct democracy, habitat conservation, pollution, censorship,tax reform,zoning,recreation facilities
Famous Town Hall Democrats
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Thomas Jefferson
John Sewell
Stompin Tom Connors
When I first got the results, I was confused. "Town Hall Democrat"? But after thinking it over, I kind of have to agree with it for the most part. I don't think that I'm narrowed focus, thats all.
Besides, I got Jefferson so it can't be that bad. Wish I had one of the Roosevelts though.:(
Kamsaki-Myu
02-02-2008, 18:07
My Stats:
Highest ranking dimension: Big Government
Second highest ranking dimension: Individualist
Combined statement:
Based on your answers, the best state for you is one where people’s basic needs are well looked after and people are free to pursue creative and fulfilling lives.
Outcome: DBIRW - Rousseau Democrat
Philosophy: Liberal Democrat
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Vive la Revolution!
Judging by the likes and dislikes, I think this is a fair assertion. The phrase "Radical Egalitarianism" sounds absolutely awesome.
Curiously, the idea is rather underdeveloped in its explanation on the description page; perhaps because we have few concrete examples in the Western world of the sort of Government I've been proposing in the various threads about here.
Hydesland
02-02-2008, 18:32
DSIRN - Left Libertarian
Interesting... Some of the questions I didn't have much of an opinion on though.
Also, I was basically in the exact middle between Narrow focus and Wide focus.
Chandelier
02-02-2008, 18:59
Autocratic vs. Democratic
Big Government vs. Small Government
Collectivist vs. Individualist
Literalist vs. Rationalist (about even between the two)
Narrow Focus vs. Wide Focus
Human centric vs. Ecocentric (even between the two)
Highest ranking: Big Government
Second highest ranking: Democratic
"Based on your answers, you are big on a "by the people for the people government" that takes good care of its citizens."
DBIRW - Rousseau Democrat
Likes
working to get a “wise decision” even if it takes longer.
aware that nations and civilizations go through stages of development like individuals do.
governments working from a set of logical rules.
expanding the range of public insurance programs (employment insurance, old age pensions, medicare and disability programs).
Dislikes
investing too much power in individuals.
a program of incremental changes.
censorship.
crowds.
gossip.
Philosophy: Liberal Democrat
Chumblywumbly
02-02-2008, 19:00
DBILW–Internationalist
Hmmm. Interesting results in an interesting test, though I feel some of the questions are pretty useless: “I like speaking with eccentric people”, “I make a point of keeping up with fashion”, “the best people are not the ones who get ahead”...
How do these questions shed light on your political philosophy?
Faxanavia
02-02-2008, 19:09
Highest Ranking Dimension: Rationalist
Second Highest Ranking Dimension: Big Government
Personality Type: Bolshevist
Philosophy: Statist
On one hand, I never really considered myself a Bolshevist. On the other, I seem to agree with alot of its concepts. Strong government, the governments responsibility to the people, the states focus on basic needs, etc. The only thing I severely disagree with is this:
"- placing personal rights before the community interest. "
I'm actually for personal rights over community interest. I think my ideal government would provide for the people, but allow them a wide variety of personal freedoms.
Daistallia 2104
02-02-2008, 19:10
Interesting ome. Will post again tomorrow.
DBILN - Cultural Libertarian
this is one of the political personality types of the PPQ
Description
Globalist minded, economically independent, democratic social creatives.
Dimensions
This personality type combines these five perspectives
democrat,small state,individualist,idealist,wide focus?
Likes and dislikes
like:
* recognizing multiple pathways for action.
* competition, and facing challenges
* the idea that society needs a "paradigm shift"
* support for artistic pursuits
dislike:
* expensive security measures to improve public safety?
* limiting the scope of discussion.
* overt patriotism
* worrying about being popular or fashionable.
Philosophy: Independence Democrat
Alternate Nicknames: (suggest a different nickname for this type)
Issues to visit:
The following issues may be of interest to you. Visit and edit these pages to reflect your beliefs.
consumer rights? executive compensation? public utilities? urban sprawl globalization freedom of information intellectual property climate change animal rights terrorism social justice drug policy? culture
(please add/remove an issue)
Famous Cultural Libertarians
Timothy Leary
Bjork
Andy Warhol
Tooker Gomberg
Free Soviets
02-02-2008, 19:11
DBILW–Internationalist
Hmmm. Interesting results in an interesting test, though I feel some of the questions are pretty useless: “I like speaking with eccentric people”, “I make a point of keeping up with fashion”, “the best people are not the ones who get ahead”...
How do these questions shed light on your political philosophy?
conformism to social norms, i think
New Limacon
02-02-2008, 20:01
I've taken this quiz before, and I think it's my favorite of the Internet political placers. The rest of the site is good, too; it's the only political wiki I know of.
As for results:
Details (http://openpolitics.ca/ppq/index.php?q_0=4&q_1=-2&q_2=2&q_3=4&q_4=1&q_5=2&q_6=-1&q_7=2&HE=12&AD=-6&BS=16&CI=-2&LR=1&NW=0)
Political type: DBILN (American Liberal)
Opposite Political type: ASCRW (Owenite or Fabian Socialist)
Dumb Ideologies
02-02-2008, 21:09
(Edited a bit for length)
ABILW - Hollywood Republican
Description
Strong, even "visionary" leadership with a populist bent, this type tends to spend more on public services and public safety?, while playing to big business and social conservatism. Hollywood republicans play on patriotism? in their foreign policy.
Dimensions
This personality type combines these five perspectives
authoritarian, big state, individualist, idealist, wide focus
Likes and dislikes
like: * trust in the judgement of experts/ hand picked individuals
* prefer clear lines of authority.
* cutting red tape
* the idea that society needs a "paradigm shift"
dislike:* distributing powers to other jurisdictions.
* spending cuts
* putting too much trust in statistics.
* addressing the symptoms rather than the "root causes".
Famous Hollywood Republicans
Ronald Reagan
Arnold Swartzenegger
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Highest ranking dimension: Big Government
Second highest ranking dimension: Literalist
Combined statement:
Based on your answers, the most important role for government, in your view, is creating a just society.
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Well, thats weird. That description matches me almost perfectly in most respects, but a few of my answers were woefully misinterpreted. Where its got social conservatism from I'm not sure. I do have a vision of a "just" society, involving a strong government, yes, but my idea of justice is very much focused on social freedom and allowing people to be themselves; so long as they're not harming anyone else. If traditional values say different, tradition is no defence for ignorance. Now, I don't *think* that makes me a social conservative, though I do support censorship on scenes of extreme sex and violence, and greater government intervention in the upbringing of children, so that was maybe an understandable confusion. However, in economic terms I fit pretty well with social democratic ideas, and am very alarmed that I'm being compared by this quiz to Reagan. I give it 7/10
Hydesland
02-02-2008, 21:23
I reckon the only reason AP refuses to take the test is because he is worried he will be labelled as some sort of extreme authoritarian statist.
Hezballoh
02-02-2008, 21:25
Highest ranking dimension: Collectivist
You believe that community and tradition are what holds this society together. You may have felt that what the country really needs is a politician who will pay more than lipservice to the importance of protecting communities. It may also be because you feel that modern society is making everything consumable or disposable. Others may disagree with you because they’ve seem people being persecuted for "doing their own thing" When politicians of your type make mistakes it is often because that which they would try to banish just "goes underground".
Second highest ranking dimension: Autocratic
You believe in strong leadership. You may have felt that what the country really needs is for someone to really take charge and break out of the inertia. This may be because you have strong opinions of which you are confident, and like to see political leaders who are like you. It may also be because you are suspicious of the ability of groups, especially large groups to make tough decisions. Others may disagree with you because they trust people less than they trust the "rules of procedure", because they have issues with authority, or because that they feel that "government just doesn’t listen." When politicians of your type make mistakes it is often because they try to fit a simple solution on a complex problem.
Combined statement:
Based on your answers, your preference is for stability and order, with strong communities and institutions.
considering i'm from lebanon, this is a given
From OpenPolitics.ca:
Test Results (in order of descending extremity)
-Highly Democratic (Democratic vs Autocratic)
-Highly Individualistic (Individualism vs Collectivism)
-Moderately "Big Government" (Big vs Small Government... i guess it refers to economics)
-Moderately Literalist (Literalism vs Rationalist)
-Slightly Wide-Focused (versus a narrow focus)
-Equally Human-centric and Ecocentric
Personality Profile
DBILW - Internationalist
this is one of the political personality types of the PPQ
Description
This personality is a “democracy without borders” point of view that promotes human rights and seeks a just and progressive world order.
Dimensions
This personality type combines these five perspectives:
democrat, big state, individualist, idealist, wide focus.
Likes and dislikes
Likes
* sensitivity to inequalities of power and influence
* prefers negotiation to use of force.
* government support for people or industries who experience misfortune
* looking to scriptures, rights, or treaties.
* society is in need of a "paradigm shift."
Dislikes
* overt patriotism
* working from overly abstract “models.”
* addressing the symptoms rather than the "root causes."
Philosophy: Liberal Democrat
Alternate Nicknames: (suggest a different nickname for this type)
Issues to visit:
The following issues may be of interest to you. Visit and edit these pages to reflect your beliefs.
for: UN reform, civil rights, fair trade, public education, public health care, same-sex marriage
against: arms trade, war on terror, war on drugs? death penalty, free trade
(please add/remove an issue)
Famous Internationalists
Woodrow Wilson
M.K. Gandhi
Robert Pearson
Bono
Lloyd Axworthy
Fairly accurate profile, oddly. Though I did opt to skip quite a few of the questions...
TBCisoncemore
02-02-2008, 21:42
Highest ranking dimension: Autocratic
Second highest ranking dimension: Individualist
ASILW - Victorianism
The English "Victorian" social tradition combined a recognition of, and acceptance of, hierarchy, with self dependence as a moral imperative. This political philosphy tolerates elitism? in the pursuit of individualism. Victorians expressed the need to “keep a stiff upper lip”, relying on charity? rather than a social safety net, and opposing (at least overtly) intervention in the economy. Deep and sincere religious belief is often part of this belief system, as well as an obligation of elites to serve the poor, though voluntarily. The arts were used predominantly for moral expressions.
Military service is respected and admired as one of the few civic obligations that is accepted as inevitable.
Apparently I'm Bejamin Disraeli...hurrah for me!
Nosorepazzau
02-02-2008, 22:07
1st Dimension: Big Government
2nd Dimension: Narrow Focus
I'm impressed,the quiz captured my political views perfectly(exept when it said
that I don't like foreign cultures,which isn't true I love foreign cultures!)
And just like every other political quiz I've taken,it put me just a tad on the autocratic side.I'm also dead-center between collectivist & individualist.Perfect!
Rhursbourg
02-02-2008, 23:18
DBCLW - "Hippie" Socialist
Kamsaki-Myu
02-02-2008, 23:26
Victorianism
Why am I not remotely surprised?
Personal Assessment
Highest ranking dimension: Individualist
You believe in the right of an individual to "be themself" in thought and deeds. You may have felt that what the country really needs is a politician with the nerve to tell people when it comes to controlling others, they should mind their own business. This may be because you enjoy a diversity of experiences and don’t get offended easily. It may also be because you’ve seen people be persecuted. Others may disagree with you because they feel a right to protect what they see as community values. When politicians of your type make mistakes it is often because they underestimate people’s need for stability and safety.
Second highest ranking dimension: Literalist
You believe that "good", "evil", "justice" and "injustice" exist in the world and people need to take a stand. You may have felt that what the country really needs is a politician with a functioning moral compass. This may be because you have seen what happens when "everything is permitted". It may also be because society is being undermined by people for whom numbers are the measure of everything. Others may disagree with you because they tend to rationalize everything, and don’t have a vision for a better society . When politicians of your type make mistakes it is because they just can’t deal with others who don’t share their faith or beliefs.
Combined statement:
Based on your answers, you would like to see a system of government that supports "mini states" where people with shared values could live by their own creed. Huh, interesting
HSH Prince Eric
03-02-2008, 00:16
Highest ranking dimension: Autocratic
Second highest ranking dimension: Literalist
Philosophy - Social Conservative
Third one is certainly wrong.
Realism.
Kamsaki-Myu
03-02-2008, 00:45
Highest ranking dimension: Autocratic
Second highest ranking dimension: Literalist
Philosophy - Social Conservative
Third one is certainly wrong.
Seems fair enough to me.
This quiz is amazingly good at this, isn't it?
HSH Prince Eric
03-02-2008, 00:56
The questions are good, but I am not a social conservative at all. I didn't see any many questions that would make someone fall into the social conservative category really. Issues like gay rights, abortion, drugs and etc...
The Loyal Opposition
03-02-2008, 01:03
Highest ranking dimension: Autocratic
Second highest ranking dimension: Literalist
Philosophy - Social Conservative
Third one is certainly wrong.
Autocracy and a strong sense of "right"/"wrong" or "good"/"evil" are pretty much the bread and butter of social conservatism, are they not?
HSH Prince Eric
03-02-2008, 01:04
I don't think so at all.
To me a social conservative is typically a religious type, who opposes things like abortion, gay rights, universal health care, stem cell research, prostitution and many of the other things that I support.
Other than opposition to the racial rackets, support for gun rights and support for the death penalty, I disagree with social conservatives on virtually every issue. I support legalization of all drugs as a major example.
Like I said, I didn't really catch any questions that would put someone in or away from the social conservative issues.
HSH Prince Eric
03-02-2008, 01:08
I understand what you are saying. Unfortunately these quizzes never give any consideration to Machiavellian principles or Realism.
Geez, how did this end up two spaces from the bottom?
The Loyal Opposition
03-02-2008, 01:10
The questions are good, but I am not a social conservative at all. I didn't see any many questions that would make someone fall into the social conservative category really. Issues like gay rights, abortion, drugs and etc...
Although I think it relatively unlikely, it is at least possible for a moralistic autocrat (i.e. a social conservative) to tolerate gay rights, abortion, drug use, etc.
The issue here is not so much the resultant policy or decision, but rather how that policy is created, or how that decision is made, in the first place. Again, autocracy and a "good"/"evil" mindset are the defining characteristics of social conservatism.
The Loyal Opposition
03-02-2008, 01:11
I disagree with social conservatives on virtually every issue.
Except for the most important issue of all: how are policy or decisions made?
A social conservative says "by a Literalist Autocrat." ;)
Kamsaki-Myu
03-02-2008, 01:17
I don't think so at all.
To me a social conservative is typically a religious type, who opposes things like abortion, gay rights, universal health care, stem cell research, prostitution and many of the other things that I support.
Other than opposition to the racial rackets, support for gun rights and support for the death penalty, I disagree with social conservatives on virtually every issue. I support legalization of all drugs as a major example.
Like I said, I didn't really catch any questions that would put someone in or away from the social conservative issues.
The thing is that by and large, you stand by the American institution. It doesn't matter if you're irreligious or libertarian or whatever.
I bet you roll your eyes (or some gestural equivilent) at anyone who says they're "sticking it to the man". That's kinda what social conservativism is about; the position of having made peace with the establishment and considering yourself at home there.
HSH Prince Eric
03-02-2008, 01:22
So you think it's impossible to have an Autocratic leadership that didn't care about a person's personal lifestyle?
The Loyal Opposition
03-02-2008, 01:23
I understand what you are saying. Unfortunately these quizzes never give any consideration to Machiavellian principles or Realism.
On the contrary, Machiavellian political maneuvering and autocratic elitism are the most powerful tools for those who wish to repress goals like gay rights, abortion rights, stem-cell research, universal health care...
How? Easy. Create an autocratic and moralistic political system where those who support gay rights, abortion rights, stem-cell research and universal health care are not able to express or pursue their political goals, but must instead accept the policy handed down from on high.
There is a reason why the repressive social policy one opposes goes so strongly hand in hand with autocratic and moralistic politics.
Kamsaki-Myu
03-02-2008, 01:27
So you think it's impossible to have an Autocratic leadership that didn't care about a person's personal lifestyle?
Not impossible, no, but given an equal sample of Autocratic and Democratic governments, the chances are that there will be more Autocratic governments meddling in peoples' private lives than there will be Democratic ones.
Kamsaki-Myu
03-02-2008, 01:33
How can one claim exclusive political control over my life while not caring about my personal lifestyle?
How about "We own everything. Do what you like with your money; we'll get it back anyway."?
HSH Prince Eric
03-02-2008, 01:34
I meant in terms of things like drug use, sexual orientation and stuff like that, so long as you don't engage in subversive behavior.
I think that a benevolent dictatorship is not the worst hope for humanity. Without the petty politically correct arguments and countless millions lost to campaigning and all that nonsense.
The Loyal Opposition
03-02-2008, 01:34
So you think it's impossible to have an Autocratic leadership that didn't care about a person's personal lifestyle?
How can one claim exclusive political control over my life while not caring about my personal lifestyle?
"I don't care how you live, so long as I am in complete control of how you live."
Absurdity. If one doesn't care, why does one need exclusive control?
The Loyal Opposition
03-02-2008, 01:39
How about "We own everything. Do what you like with your money; we'll get it anyway."?
Who advocates such nonsense? Not I.
Highest ranking dimension: Individualist
Second highest ranking dimension: Big Government
DBIRW - Rousseau Democrat
I find this to be rather accurate. Good find, OP. You win one internets.
I meant in terms of things like drug use, sexual orientation and stuff like that, so long as you don't engage in subversive behavior.
I think that a benevolent dictatorship is not the worst hope for humanity. Without the petty politically correct arguments and countless millions lost to campaigning and all that nonsense.
Thing is, are there any people in the world that could handle having that much power? I really don't think so. "Power corrupts, and absolute power corrupts absolutely."
Kamsaki-Myu
03-02-2008, 01:44
Who advocates such nonsense? Not me.
Merely a hypothetical suggestion. If a government were to be formed that nationalised all retail and entertainment businesses, they could quite happily go on providing these for your choosing while nonetheless retaining a considerable degree of control over them.
The Loyal Opposition
03-02-2008, 01:48
...so long as you don't engage in subversive behavior.
AH HA!
So, one simply gets to pick and choose what constitutes "subversive" behavior, eh?
Again, "live how ever you want, as long as you live how I want."
I knew there was a social conservative in there, we just had to tease him out. ;)
HSH Prince Eric
03-02-2008, 01:48
Politically subversive things like political protests, bad mouthing the government and membership in any groups that are allowed.
Highest ranking dimension: Democratic
You believe in the principles of democracy - that too much control by too few is a dangerous proposition You may have felt that what the country really needs is to open the corridors of power and let more "real people" inside. This may be because you have seen people treated unfairly, seen self interest take over people’s judgment and wish that political leaders would lead by following the people’s wishes. It may also be because you see that the people who tend to get elected don’t represent the diversity of viewpoints and cultures that exist in the population. Others may disagree with you because they are impatient to see politicians "do something", and possibly because they are less inclined to do their own thinking about the issues. When politicians of your type make mistakes it is often because in an attempt to please everybody, they please nobody.
Second highest ranking dimension: Big Government
You believe in the power of government to make life better. You may have felt that what the country really needs is for the government to get serious about the many problems that people face. This may be because you have seen the system break down and know people who have fallen through the cracks. It may also be because you feel that our society is at risk our communities need better protection from internal and external dangers. Others may disagree with you because they are focused on what government does wrong, rather than what it does right. When politicians of your type make mistakes it is often because they create programs that solve one problem but create others.
Combined statement:
Based on your answers, you are big on a "by the people for the people government" that takes good care of its citizens.
Personality= DBILW - Internationalist
Likes and dislikes
Likes
* sensitivity to inequalities of power and influence
* prefers negotiation to use of force.
* government support for people or industries who experience misfortune
* looking to scriptures, rights, or treaties.
* society is in need of a "paradigm shift."
Dislikes
* overt patriotism
* working from overly abstract “models.”
* addressing the symptoms rather than the "root causes."
Philosophy: Liberal Democrat
Pretty well describes me.
The Loyal Opposition
03-02-2008, 01:52
If a government were to be formed that nationalised all retail and entertainment businesses, they could quite happily go on providing these for your choosing while nonetheless retaining a considerable degree of control over them.
Theoretically. I'd suggest, however, that in practice the result would be less than optimal. History provides sufficient evidence of such.
Kamsaki-Myu
03-02-2008, 01:55
I'd suggest, however, that in practice the result would be less than optimal.
Well quite. And the difficult thing is getting a fair method of arbitration up to decide where public money should go in an organisation network of that kind of size. But that's besides the point; a "disinterested totalitarianism", where the government is involved in every aspect of life in a totally passive manner, is still possible, however unlikely or stupid an idea it would be.
Fleckenstein
03-02-2008, 02:22
DBCLW - "Hippie" Socialist
Hey, I'm not alone! :)
Johnny B Goode
03-02-2008, 02:32
Highest ranking dimension: Wide Focus
You believe that people should look at the big picture before making decisions. You may have felt that what the country really needs is a government that can focus on the big issues that will be affecting everyone of the next 100 years. This may be because you have seen too much spending on the "symptoms" rather than the underlying causes. It may also be because you feel that wealthy countries have a responsibility to the rest of the world. Others may disagree with you because they don’t want to set aside their own needs for the needs of others far away. When politicians of your type make mistakes it is often because they can be too optimistic about their ability to make a difference.
Second highest ranking dimension: Individualist
You believe in the right of an individual to "be themself" in thought and deeds. You may have felt that what the country really needs is a politician with the nerve to tell people when it comes to controlling others, they should mind their own business. This may be because you enjoy a diversity of experiences and don’t get offended easily. It may also be because you’ve seen people be persecuted. Others may disagree with you because they feel a right to protect what they see as community values. When politicians of your type make mistakes it is often because they underestimate people’s need for stability and safety.
Combined statement:
Based on your answers, you would be quite happy to just be a citizen of the world.
I think that gt me pretty well, even though some of the questions were a bit silly.
Highest ranking dimension: Big Government
You believe in the power of government to make life better. You may have felt that what the country really needs is for the government to get serious about the many problems that people face. This may be because you have seen the system break down and know people who have fallen through the cracks. It may also be because you feel that our society is at risk our communities need better protection from internal and external dangers. Others may disagree with you because they are focused on what government does wrong, rather than what it does right. When politicians of your type make mistakes it is often because they create programs that solve one problem but create others.
Second highest ranking dimension: Wide Focus
You believe that people should look at the big picture before making decisions. You may have felt that what the country really needs is a government that can focus on the big issues that will be affecting everyone of the next 100 years. This may be because you have seen too much spending on the "symptoms" rather than the underlying causes. It may also be because you feel that wealthy countries have a responsibility to the rest of the world. Others may disagree with you because they don’t want to set aside their own needs for the needs of others far away. When politicians of your type make mistakes it is often because they can be too optimistic about their ability to make a difference.
Combined statement:
Based on your answers, you are a strong supporter of a "planned society".
DBIRW - Rousseau Democrat
Likes
* working to get a “wise decision” even if it takes longer.
* aware that nations and civilizations go through stages of development like individuals do.
* governments working from a set of logical rules.
* expanding the range of public insurance programs (employment insurance, old age pensions, medicare and disability programs).
Dislikes
* investing too much power in individuals.
* a program of incremental changes.
* censorship.
* crowds.
* gossip.
Mythotic Kelkia
03-02-2008, 02:44
Highest ranking dimension: Wide Focus
Second highest ranking dimension: Big Government
Based on your answers, you are a strong supporter of a "planned society".
ABCLW - the Missionaries
Misionaries combine strong leadership with a firm committment to an overarching ideology, either religious, or nationalist, or ideological. This commitment is expressed by contributions or voluntary service to the group. The best qualities of this type are the ability to practice self dicipline, determination and committment to one's beliefs.
Philosophy: Statist
like:
* the “wisdom of experts”.
* expanding the range of public insurance programs (employment insurance, old age pensions, medicare and disability programs)
* enjoy public celebrations
* decrying public “vices”
* looking to scriptures, rights, or treaties.
* advocating that society needs a "paradigm shift"
dislike:
* self determiniation for minorities
* tax cuts, particularly on high income individuals or corporations.
* putting too much trust in statistics or science
* addressing the symptoms rather than the "root causes".
That's basically me, except for the disliking self determination for minorities thing, that's completely wrong. Advocation of minority and indigenous self-determination is basically my second highest concern after the environment.
Dempublicents1
03-02-2008, 03:29
Highest Ranking: Individualist
Second Highest Ranking: Democratic
DBILW: Internationalist
Philosophy: Liberal Democrat
Based on your answers, the ideal state, in your opinion, is one where people are free to be themselves.
Smunkeeville
03-02-2008, 03:45
Highest ranking dimension: Individualist
You believe in the right of an individual to "be themself" in thought and deeds. You may have felt that what the country really needs is a politician with the nerve to tell people when it comes to controlling others, they should mind their own business. This may be because you enjoy a diversity of experiences and don’t get offended easily. It may also be because you’ve seen people be persecuted. Others may disagree with you because they feel a right to protect what they see as community values. When politicians of your type make mistakes it is often because they underestimate people’s need for stability and safety.
Second highest ranking dimension: Democratic
You believe in the principles of democracy - that too much control by too few is a dangerous proposition You may have felt that what the country really needs is to open the corridors of power and let more "real people" inside. This may be because you have seen people treated unfairly, seen self interest take over people’s judgment and wish that political leaders would lead by following the people’s wishes. It may also be because you see that the people who tend to get elected don’t represent the diversity of viewpoints and cultures that exist in the population. Others may disagree with you because they are impatient to see politicians "do something", and possibly because they are less inclined to do their own thinking about the issues. When politicians of your type make mistakes it is often because in an attempt to please everybody, they please nobody.
Combined statement:
Based on your answers, the ideal state, in your opinion, is one where people are free to be themselves.
Description
Globalist minded, economically independent, democratic social creatives.
Dimensions
This personality type combines these five perspectives
democrat,small state,individualist,idealist,wide focus?
Likes and dislikes
like:
* recognizing multiple pathways for action.
* competition, and facing challenges
* the idea that society needs a "paradigm shift"
* support for artistic pursuits
dislike:
* expensive security measures to improve public safety?
* limiting the scope of discussion.
* overt patriotism
* worrying about being popular or fashionable.
Philosophy: Independence Democrat
this sounds suspiciously like me :)
GreaterPacificNations
03-02-2008, 04:43
I landed with Smithian
Thats Authoritarian, Small State, Individualist, Rationalist, Wide focus.
Mind you, I was right on the cusp of Authoritatian and Democratic, placing me a hairs breath also from 'Anti-Nationalist. Enough so for me to place my result as a 'Smitian Anti-nationalist'.
All in all a rather accurate appraisal.
I like the question that said:
Politics is not a good subject for small talk with people you don't know.
cuz thats all I ever do on NSG
Chumblywumbly
03-02-2008, 05:50
cuz thats all I ever do on NSG
;)
For me, if a person I’ve just met “can’t handle” a wee bit of political/philosophical discussion, I tend to find them rather dull individuals.
Potarius
03-02-2008, 06:29
I thought that too for a moment, but I think the ridiculous and abstract nature of some of the questions are designed to prevent us from over-thinking them, or subconsciously skewing the outcome of the test to our liking.
I suppose. But who in their right minds would actually think of letting trees vote?
The fact is, trees are fucking stupid, man.
HotRodia
03-02-2008, 06:30
I suppose. But who in their right minds would actually think of letting trees vote?
The fact is, trees are fucking stupid, man.
Even if trees were sapient, I would see no particular reason to give them a vote in a human political community. Grant them the same respect for sylvan dignity that we have for human dignity, sure. But the vote seems a bit of a stretch.
I suppose. But who in their right minds would actually think of letting trees vote?
The fact is, trees are fucking stupid, man.
I strongly agreed to that question.
..What? We could elect delegates for the trees.
Blouman Empire
03-02-2008, 12:48
Apprentaly I am a statist, a bit strange since it only takes in a part of my political ideology. But Friedrich Nietzsche was a famous one, someone Australian PM K. Micheal Rudd said he based his beliefs on so you never know
But my first ranking dimension was Rationalist: You believe in the power of reason to solve problems. You may have felt that what the country really needs is a leader who will honest about the costs and benefits of things. You may have felt that what the country really needs is to stop wasting time and money on silly hot button issues. This may be because you have been annoyed by people who get disproportionately excited about issues that won’t make much difference to people’s lives no matter how they are decided. It may also be because you see too many squeaky wheels getting too much grease. Others may disagree with you because they have an emotional attachment to their positions and don’t see things in an objective way. When politicians of your type make mistakes because what they perceive as "logical" comes across as "confusing" or "uncaring", and they can’t win people over.
That rings very true to me the quiz has some merit
Fishutopia
03-02-2008, 15:07
WTF is up with this question
Government should never give handouts to businesses or single people who are able to work.
I think businesses should not get handouts. If a business fails, a person doesn't die.
I think a single person should get a hand out if they need it. No food, means death. How can any sensible person put that as one question?
Java-Minang
03-02-2008, 15:10
Apprentaly I am a statist, a bit strange since it only takes in a part of my political ideology. But Friedrich Nietzsche was a famous one, someone Australian PM K. Micheal Rudd said he based his beliefs on so you never know
But my first ranking dimension was Rationalist: You believe in the power of reason to solve problems. You may have felt that what the country really needs is a leader who will honest about the costs and benefits of things. You may have felt that what the country really needs is to stop wasting time and money on silly hot button issues. This may be because you have been annoyed by people who get disproportionately excited about issues that won’t make much difference to people’s lives no matter how they are decided. It may also be because you see too many squeaky wheels getting too much grease. Others may disagree with you because they have an emotional attachment to their positions and don’t see things in an objective way. When politicians of your type make mistakes because what they perceive as "logical" comes across as "confusing" or "uncaring", and they can’t win people over.
That rings very true to me the quiz has some merit
Umm, we are the same, comrade. I get a statist.
Agh! Why don't I get Islamist-Socialist?!
Daktoria
03-02-2008, 19:21
I got scored as a small-government individualist, but on the philosophy page it qualified me as Victorian which is labelled as neo-conservative on the site.
like:
* cutting red tape
* religious or moralistic approaches to social concerns
* free markets and private property
* "well-prepared elites" to guide the mases
* advocating change at the national or international level
* Noblesse oblige
dislike:
* being accountable to community standards
* putting too much trust in statistics or science.
* addressing the symptoms rather than the "root causes"
* fiscal spending
* welfare over individuals 'own-effort'
To me, neo-cons have always conflicted a lot more over Aristotelian values in government. Yes, neo-cons agree that commoners need to be guided in everyday justified decision making, but neo-cons also believe that the correct way to do this is through the EXPANSION of bureaucracy. This makes citizens more dependent upon the government's behavior, more willing to reject moral values, and less confident in their own character.
In line with this, I disagree with neo-cons "liking" cutting of red tape, religious approaches to social concerns, free markets, and noblesse oblige. I also disagree with neo-cons "disliking" of putting too much trust in statistics or science, fiscal spending, and individuals 'own effort'. Neo-cons WANT to make the masses dependent upon government so that the masses engage in rational and predictable behavior. By inducing such conformity, neo-cons can manipulate government to its will and enforce ulterior motives.
Highest ranking dimension: Democratic
You believe in the principles of democracy - that too much control by too few is a dangerous proposition You may have felt that what the country really needs is to open the corridors of power and let more "real people" inside. This may be because you have seen people treated unfairly, seen self interest take over people’s judgment and wish that political leaders would lead by following the people’s wishes. It may also be because you see that the people who tend to get elected don’t represent the diversity of viewpoints and cultures that exist in the population. Others may disagree with you because they are impatient to see politicians "do something", and possibly because they are less inclined to do their own thinking about the issues. When politicians of your type make mistakes it is often because in an attempt to please everybody, they please nobody.
Second highest ranking dimension: Big Government
You believe in the power of government to make life better. You may have felt that what the country really needs is for the government to get serious about the many problems that people face. This may be because you have seen the system break down and know people who have fallen through the cracks. It may also be because you feel that our society is at risk our communities need better protection from internal and external dangers. Others may disagree with you because they are focused on what government does wrong, rather than what it does right. When politicians of your type make mistakes it is often because they create programs that solve one problem but create others.
Combined statement:
Based on your answers, you are big on a "by the people for the people government" that takes good care of its citizens.
democrat, big state, individualist, idealist, narrow focus
Highest ranking dimension: Big Government
Second highest ranking dimension: Democratic
Combined statement:
"Based on your answers, you are big on a "by the people for the people government" that takes good care of its citizens."
Yootopia
03-02-2008, 21:52
I'm supposedly a Smithian (ASIRW) kind of guy. I suppose that's about right, although the description as a Fabian Socialist (ASCRW) has some aspects I prefer.
Highest ranking dimension: Rationalist
Second highest ranking dimension: Individualist
Combined statement:
"Based on your answers, if it were possible, you would like to see someone write software that channeled public spending to where it was needed; let people work, play and succeed without worrying about politics."
Only if that software is free...
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Dimensions: democrat ,small state, individualist, idealist, narrow focus.
Which apparently makes me politically a "DSIRN - Left Libertarian"
Edit: That question about whether or not trees should be able to vote makes me question the validity of the quiz. I'm just assuming it was there for Humour's sake.
Because even the alcoholic beverage of personified intangible(?) needs recognition from time to time.
Skyland Mt
03-02-2008, 22:32
My politics are an unusual mix, which doesn't closely follow any of the options provided. On economic issues I'm a moderate socialist, but on Civil and Political freedoms, I'm a strong liberatarian. On some social issues, ie abortion, homosexuality, drugs, I lean conservative, but for non-religeous reasons(note I do not believe in legislating against abortion or homosexuality, because such bans would violate people's rights, and be unenforceable). On matters of foreign policy, I'm not sure where I fit, though I would term myself a "Militant Humanitarian," meaning I support intervention in other countries affairs, be it economic, military, or political, if it is to protect human rights.
Ultimately, I voted Liberal Democrat, because it seems the closest match.
Didn't notice there was a quize attached. I've taken it now: my top two dimensions are wide focus, followed by individualist (I think). This fits me very well. However, it then went on to say that my political profile was "Hollywood republican", like Shwarzenegger or Regan. This is not right. I have once more seem demonstrated the bogusness of internet quizzes.
TBCisoncemore
04-02-2008, 02:55
Why am I not remotely surprised?
Perhaps because, unlike some, I have a coherent, cogent and defined set of politics which do not consist of whatever Barack Obama/Amnesty International deems fashionable this week?
Tech-gnosis
04-02-2008, 06:49
DBIRW - Rousseau Democrat
Highest ranking dimension: Individualist
You believe in the right of an individual to "be themself" in thought and deeds. You may have felt that what the country really needs is a politician with the nerve to tell people when it comes to controlling others, they should mind their own business. This may be because you enjoy a diversity of experiences and don’t get offended easily. It may also be because you’ve seen people be persecuted. Others may disagree with you because they feel a right to protect what they see as community values. When politicians of your type make mistakes it is often because they underestimate people’s need for stability and safety.
Second highest ranking dimension: Big Government
You believe in the power of government to make life better. You may have felt that what the country really needs is for the government to get serious about the many problems that people face. This may be because you have seen the system break down and know people who have fallen through the cracks. It may also be because you feel that our society is at risk our communities need better protection from internal and external dangers. Others may disagree with you because they are focused on what government does wrong, rather than what it does right. When politicians of your type make mistakes it is often because they create programs that solve one problem but create others.
Combined statement:
Based on your answers, the best state for you is one where people’s basic needs are well looked after and people are free to pursue creative and fulfilling lives.
Highest ranking dimension: Small Government
You believe in a government that keeps order but otherwise stays out of the way. You may have felt that what the country really needs is a government with the courage to take on some of the "sacred cows" of government spending. This may be because you have been irked by how much you pay in taxes. It may also be because you feel that excessive government support programs reward those with no initiative. Others may disagree with you because they see some people as having the system stacked against them. When politicians of your type make mistakes it is because they find it difficult to maintain the "tough love" approach when their friends and supporters ask for help.
Second highest ranking dimension: Democratic
You believe in the principles of democracy - that too much control by too few is a dangerous proposition You may have felt that what the country really needs is to open the corridors of power and let more "real people" inside. This may be because you have seen people treated unfairly, seen self interest take over people’s judgment and wish that political leaders would lead by following the people’s wishes. It may also be because you see that the people who tend to get elected don’t represent the diversity of viewpoints and cultures that exist in the population. Others may disagree with you because they are impatient to see politicians "do something", and possibly because they are less inclined to do their own thinking about the issues. When politicians of your type make mistakes it is often because in an attempt to please everybody, they please nobody.
Combined statement:
Based on your answers, the best government, in your opinion is the one that gives most of the control, freedom and responsibility to the people.
DBILN - Cultural Libertarian
Description
Globalist minded, economically independent, democratic social creatives.
Dimensions
This personality type combines these five perspectives -
democrat,small state,individualist,idealist,wide focus
Likes:
recognizing multiple pathways for action.
competition, and facing challenges
the idea that society needs a "paradigm shift"
support for artistic pursuits
Dislikes:
expensive security measures to improve public safety
limiting the scope of discussion.
overt patriotism
worrying about being popular or fashionable.
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Quite accurate, especially the likes/dislikes.
Drakkonnius
04-02-2008, 09:33
I was marked as Anti-Nationalist. Spot-on on the part where I was mostly defined as Rationalist.
Eire Mor
04-02-2008, 10:07
Highest ranking dimension: Small Government
You believe in a government that keeps order but otherwise stays out of the way. You may have felt that what the country really needs is a government with the courage to take on some of the "sacred cows" of government spending. This may be because you have been irked by how much you pay in taxes. It may also be because you feel that excessive government support programs reward those with no initiative. Others may disagree with you because they see some people as having the system stacked against them. When politicians of your type make mistakes it is because they find it difficult to maintain the "tough love" approach when their friends and supporters ask for help.
Second highest ranking dimension: Autocratic
You believe in strong leadership. You may have felt that what the country really needs is for someone to really take charge and break out of the inertia. This may be because you have strong opinions of which you are confident, and like to see political leaders who are like you. It may also be because you are suspicious of the ability of groups, especially large groups to make tough decisions. Others may disagree with you because they trust people less than they trust the "rules of procedure", because they have issues with authority, or because that they feel that "government just doesn’t listen." When politicians of your type make mistakes it is often because they try to fit a simple solution on a complex problem.
Combined statement:
Based on your answers, you like the idea of a less government with a steady hand on the wheel, a large helping of economic freedom and stability.
ASCRW - Owenite or Fabian Socialist
Description
Robert Owen a successful industrialist, was an early “socialist without the class struggle” his basic conception was that human beings were moulded, for better or worse by their society and community, as such the powerful held a responsibility for the human development of the people under their influence.
Historical
George Bernard Shaw and Winston Churchill were adherents to the Fabian socialist movement, which had much the same idea.
Unlike most collectivists, advocates tended to try to reform right-wing politics rather than join left-wing movements.
Dimensions
This personality type combines these five perspectives
authoritarian, small state, collectivist, rationalist, wide focus.
Likes and dislikes
like:
* a strong sense of social responsibility.
* identify strongly with religious, ethnic or cultural groups
* people who "make do" on their own
* competition, and facing challenges
* advocating that society needs a "paradigm shift"
* advocating change at the national or international level
dislike:
* rebellion for the sake of rebellion
* challenges to authority
* complex decision making processes
Philosophy: Communitarianism, Social Conservativism
This is pretty accurate, which is surprising since I never considered myself a socialist of any sort. The only part I disagree with is the dislikes complex decision making processes part. This is patently untrue of me as I thoroughly enjoy making complex decisions. For God's sake, I like writing computer programs. That can get pretty complex. I do like the idea that Fabian socialists try to reform right-wing politics, since that's what I try to do. Also awesome is that Winston Churchill and G.B. Shaw thought this way!
Highest ranking dimension: Small Government
Second highest ranking dimension: Wide Focus
Combined statement: Based on your answers, you would like to explore the idea of government fading away over time in a peaceful prosperous free world.
Kamsaki-Myu
04-02-2008, 11:46
Perhaps because, unlike some, I have a coherent, cogent and defined set of politics which do not consist of whatever Barack Obama/Amnesty International deems fashionable this week?
Thanks for that. I needed a good laugh!
South Lorenya
04-02-2008, 12:07
DBIRN - Modernist Democrat
Highest: Big Government
Second highest: Democratic
This personality type combines these five perspectives:
democrat, big state, individualist, rationalist, narrow focus
Like:
* the “wisdom of crowds.”
* improving the social safety net.
* security measures to improve their personal safety.
* support for artistic pursuits.
* seeking long term "efficiency" for programs.
* that quality of life issues best decided locally.
Dislike:
* elitism, or rule by experts.
* secrecy and the withholding of information.
* worrying about being popular or fashionable.
* single issue politics.
* trying to make everyone dance to the same tune.
Philosophy: Liberal Democrat
for: social security?, civil rights, public education, separation of church and state, public health care, homeland security?, same-sex marriage, municipal infrastructure
against: military spending?, electoral fraud?, tax reform,
Famous Democratic Modernists:
JK Galbraith
Hillary Clinton
Bob Rae
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That fits me pretty well, although I'm not thrilled with Bush's interpretatioon of homeland security.