NationStates Jolt Archive

Instead of a long pointless debate about how one diety may or may not exist, or why this poltical figure does or does not need to be brutally tortured, I thought it would be a nicer change of pace to take a moment, and reflect on the things you've actually learned from Nationstates.

Me, I've learned:

That I've seriously underestimated the power of Pie.

That the answer to all of life's problems can be found simply by remembering the following equation : Pie*Pi= ?

That Robert's rules of Order do not now, nor have they ever applied to a debate in this forum at any point in time. Instead, it is the following:
!: Poster makes thread to debate a religous, political, or scientific topic, or a mix there of.
2: Strong points and arguments are made on both sides, but no one actually listens to each other.
3: a spammer, Troll, or Flame-baiter, or a mix there of enters the thread.
4: Debate degenerates into responses to the spammers, Trolls, and Flame-baiters, which have now given rise to actual Flamers.
5:At some point, the thread either dies, or gets locked by a moderator, but not before someone gets whacked upside the head with the banstick. The thread then dies, but not before respawning slightly re-worded in a brand new thread, which brings us back to point number one.


But finally, I've learned that despite years of research, careful study, and hiring the occasional stalker, I still don't know what makes Lunatic Goofballs tick, or what goes on inside his head.

What about you, what have you learned from your time in NSG?

People seem totally unable to grasp the idea that it's called Climate change, not Global Warming.

nsg lurned me how to type proper.yup.

That I'm better than everyone else.

1) Wafflez
2) Pie
3) Lunatic Goofballs
4) How no matter how you try to make people see the light of reason, they won't, because they're perpetually trying to make you see the light of reason
5) How to kill hours of precious homework time
6) Option 9

That I'm better than everyone else.
The people don't think through their opinions, and they don't want to.

1) Debating Religion here is like peeing while wearing dark clothes. sure you get a nice warm feeling, but in the end, no one really notices until you stink and you're left feeling cold, clammy and uncomfortable in the spotlight.

2) Spam is healthy and necessary in any forum. Too much spam however, is a dangerous thing

3) people come in a myrad of wonderous variety in thought, dreams, and abilities. cherish them for if we were truely the same, the forums of the world will be filled with "me too."

4) I <3 NSG mods.

What about you, what have you learned from your time in NSG?

I learned about aerosol pancake batter:

http://www.apuntesdecocina.com/media/batterblaster_small.jpg

and canned bread:

http://www.mrefoods.com/cart/scimages/thumb_b_m_canned_bread.jpg

Both have added great joy to my life.

The wonders of spam - especially pic spam! And motivational posters!! Oooh! And chocolate!

Mmmm... Chocolate :fluffle:



Oh yes, Fluffles too! :p

2) Spam is healthy and necessary in any forum. Too much spam however, is a dangerous thing

Withe great power comes great responsibility http://generalitemafia.ipbfree.com/html/emoticons/sleep.gif

I've learned that you should be tolerant and that larger governemnt is not the solution to anything. And I STILL DON'T KNOW HOW TO GET NEW SMILEYS!

I learned about aerosol pancake batter:

http://www.apuntesdecocina.com/media/batterblaster_small.jpg

and canned bread:

http://www.mrefoods.com/cart/scimages/thumb_b_m_canned_bread.jpg

Both have added great joy to my life.

That, is, awesome. Where do I find some?

That, is, awesome. Where do I find some?

Unless you live in the North East USA, you probably can't find canned bread in your grocery store - but you can buy it online. The pancake batter spray is nationwide and available at most Costcos. I like the bread alot, but the pancake thing is awesome. Just spray it in the pan and you have PERFECT pancakes - no mess, no clean-up. It's great when you come home late and want flapjacks but know you're too drunk to make them from scratch. I learned about both of these fine products from the NSG forum. :)

I have learned that it doesn't matter how much you participate because nobody will remember you anyway :p

and that procrastinating is the closest you get to God (I'd dare say nsG has ruined my life along with numerous relationships :))

Ive learned that no one reads your posts and even if they do, they will simply just infer things that arent there.

Ive learned that no one reads your posts and even if they do, they will simply just infer things that arent there.
How can you say that Barney the Dinosaur would be a better President than the current candidates running for office?


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you know... now that I think about it...

:D

Ive learned that no one reads your posts and even if they do, they will simply just infer things that arent there.

you saying I can't read!?:p

I've learned that you should be tolerant and that larger governemnt is not the solution to anything. And I STILL DON'T KNOW HOW TO GET NEW SMILEYS!

http://www.sogospellovers.com/forums/images/smilies/smile8.gif

Like that? ;)

I figured it out! You use IMG tags! WOO!
*puts the dunce cap on*

http://www.clicksmilies.com/s1106/grinser/grinning-smiley-035.gif

Like that?
TELL ME! Oh please oh kind and great master. (Bows before Gravlen)

NSG showed me that I'm more in line with Stormfront's ideology than here, even though I'm not white... :confused:

I've learned that people are completely capable of transforming complete bull into a tenable argument. I've learned that pancakes now come in a spray can. I've learned that no matter what someone says, they're probably wrong. I've also learned to believe in myself, but thats just socialist crap spewed by the communist leftist pinkos.

TELL ME! Oh please oh kind and great master. (Bows before Gravlen)

Warhaven just said it ;)

Allow me to demonstrate:

Find a smilie, like this http://www.sogospellovers.com/forums/images/smilies/loveposting.gif

Copy the adress

Insert image using the icon on top of the post window ^^ http://img220.imageshack.us/img220/6447/nnpq1.jpg

tags will be used around the adress

[IMG]http://www.sogospellovers.com/forums/images/smilies/loveposting.gif

Tadaa!

Unless you live in the North East USA, you probably can't find canned bread in your grocery store - but you can buy it online. The pancake batter spray is nationwide and available at most Costcos. I like the bread alot, but the pancake thing is awesome. Just spray it in the pan and you have PERFECT pancakes - no mess, no clean-up. It's great when you come home late and want flapjacks but know you're too drunk to make them from scratch. I learned about both of these fine products from the NSG forum. :)

I live in a small town in Texas. http://www.clicksmilies.com/s1106/traurig/sad-smiley-019.gif

1. That NSG is less stressful in small doses.
2. Various political information that is debated in a mostly sound, rational way. Mostly.
3. Not really learned, but NSG killed the last part of me that could ever make me seriously believe any deity could ever exist.

nsg lurned me how to type proper.yup.

Mii 2,

I learned about aerosol pancake batter:

http://www.apuntesdecocina.com/media/batterblaster_small.jpg

and canned bread:

http://www.mrefoods.com/cart/scimages/thumb_b_m_canned_bread.jpg

Both have added great joy to my life.

Those are two of the most disgusting-looking products I have ever seen!

There you go, I learned that jsut now as my opinion formulated, and because it happened on NSG, I'm counting it.

The people don't think through their opinions, and they don't want to.

How ironic.

I can't imagine listing out everything I've learned from NSG if we're being serious. I love that I can come here and disagree with vehemently with liberals about something I'm liberal about, with Christians about something Christian despite also being a Christian, with men about what it means to be manly, etc. I've always tried to be open-minded but both my opinions and my understanding of various topics has been wildly expanded by encountering some of the learned people on NSG (no, JuNii, not you).

I've also learned that more clearly you demonstrate someone is wrong, the more likely they are to pretend they said something else.

Ok.

but what have you learned from me?

:D

To ignore any thread that starts with ##

:D

I can't imagine listing out everything I've learned from NSG if we're being serious. I love that I can come here and disagree with vehemently with liberals about something I'm liberal about, with Christians about something Christian despite also being a Christian, with men about what it means to be manly, etc. I've always tried to be open-minded but both my opinions and my understanding of various topics has been wildly expanded by encountering some of the learned people on NSG (no, JuNii, not you).

I've also learned that more clearly you demonstrate someone is wrong, the more likely they are to pretend they said something else.Ok.

but what have you learned from me?

:D

Those are two of the most disgusting-looking products I have ever seen!

There you go, I learned that jsut now as my opinion formulated, and because it happened on NSG, I'm counting it.

The brown bread is actually suprisingly good. The aerosol pancake batter.... damages my brain.

To ignore any thread that starts with ##

:D
:eek: you ... you ... shaddup :D :D

I learned about aerosol pancake batter:

http://www.apuntesdecocina.com/media/batterblaster_small.jpg

and canned bread:

http://www.mrefoods.com/cart/scimages/thumb_b_m_canned_bread.jpg

Both have added great joy to my life.

if youre going to eat brown bread shouldnt you have the B&M baked beans to go with?

I still don't know what makes Lunatic Goofballs tick, or what goes on inside his head.
A gerbil riding a motorcycle in a wall-of-death.

if youre going to eat brown bread shouldnt you have the B&M baked beans to go with?

Yes! B&M bread, B&M beans and then a couple hours later..... BM!

I've found another way to kill time that could be better spent doing homework.
Seriously, I've learned it's okay to change your opinions as long as you do so responsibly (i.e., no flip-flopping for no good reason). I've also learned that NSG is a really tolerant forum for people who are ... different. Atheist, fundamentalist, straight, gay, lesbian, bisexual, as long as you can debate intelligently, you're welcome here.

... as long as you can debate intelligently, you're welcome here.

That leaves me out! :headbang:

Yes! B&M bread, B&M beans and then a couple hours later..... BM!

i grew up in maine where baked bean suppers at the grange hall are a tradition.

its not the BM is the gas.

my mom used to make home made brown bread. even when its home made its made in a can.

have you tried the bisquick shake and pour pancakes? that spray thing seems kinda freaky to me.

But finally, I've learned that despite years of research, careful study, and hiring the occasional stalker, I still don't know what makes Lunatic Goofballs tick, or what goes on inside his head.

Here's a peek:

http://www.relaxorium.com/journalpics/thellamasong.swf

:)

http://www.mrefoods.com/cart/scimages/thumb_b_m_canned_bread.jpg


I didn't read the & symbol on the first pass. I assumed it was a canned bowel movement (BM).

Muslims are all suicide bombers.
Global warming is good.
Evolution is fake.
Reality has a liberal bias.
Also cocks.

That leaves me out! :headbang:

Let me rephrase that:
As long as you can debate, you're welcome here. Intelligence is not necessarily required, though it can be a great asset.

I have learned that there are Correct Opinions and Incorrect Opinions.

I learned about aerosol pancake batter:

http://www.apuntesdecocina.com/media/batterblaster_small.jpg

and canned bread:

http://www.mrefoods.com/cart/scimages/thumb_b_m_canned_bread.jpg

Both have added great joy to my life.

Is it me, or do the words "batter blaster" sound like a euphemism?

nsg lurned me how to type proper.yup.

Kanabia wants his comedic stylings back.

Here's a peek:

http://www.relaxorium.com/journalpics/thellamasong.swf

:)
And the moral of the story is if you hold onto a llama long enough, it will turn into a duck. :D

Is it me, or do the words "batter blaster" sound like a euphemism?

I slowly heated up her griddle, lubed it up with butter and then pulled out my Batter-Blaster....

To ignore any thread that starts with ##

:D

Hehe. I so wanted to say that.

I've learned two things:

1.That no matter What your opinion is, some one else holds the exact opposite opinion than you and thinks that their completely right about everything thing they say despite the truth.

2. No matter what the topic is, its always America's fault.

I slowly heated up her griddle, lubed it up with butter and then pulled out my Batter-Blaster....

Then I said to her those three magic words:


"You like pancakes?"

Muslims are all suicide bombers.
Global warming is good.
Evolution is fake.
Reality has a liberal bias.
Also cocks.
This a better than average first post.

Reality has a liberal bias.

I saw that myself...not always though.

As for what I learned:

1) I learned how to write and debate better
2) That intelligent debate *does* exist on the Internet
3) Ask anything, you'll find an answer
4) That there's no one more random than Lunatic Goofballs
5) You'll never find someone who won't express a particular kind of viewpoint.
6) The entire nation of the Netherlands is on these forums...
7) Apparently I *can* reply to a future post.
8) Time really *can* fly...and that I can't. :(
9) That Jolt really has a problem with you "searching" through old posts
10) That there's no way to use ":sniper:" ":mp5:" or ":gundge:" in a serious debate.
11) :sniper::mp5::gundge: (only 'cause I want to be cool and list 11 things, not a round number like 10. :p)

And the moral of the story is if you hold onto a llama long enough, it will turn into a duck. :D

Or:

If llamas are flying everywhere, it's important to know when to duck. :)

I learned the more vehemently you argue for or against an opinion the harsher the opposing argument will be, (due to. Larger post=anger factor, however in some cases. Larger post=confusion factor2).
I also learned that half of all posts made will be recieved as thought you've insulted another posters mother.
I learned NSG eats up alot of time if you're not watching carefully.
I learned the other half of posts made will be recieved as an opportunity to post whatever is on your mind, and leads to humorous visual images.
I learned that if someone likes you here it means another person does not.
I learned the best posts i make are when i'm in a good mood.

I have learned that there are Correct Opinions and Incorrect Opinions.
There are truths and there are Truths. The opposite of a truth is false, but the opposite of a Truth is also True.

Hm. Let's see what I have learned.

1. There are cool people on the Internet.
2. These are still far outnumbered by trolls and assholes.
3. The same intelligence, nobility, and humor is found in people of all ideologies and countries.
4. The same stupidity, fear, and stinginess are found in people of all ideologies and countries.
5. There are people on the Internet who make even more absurd generalizations than in real life.
6. Most people take themselves far too seriously.
7. Most people, no matter how far to a political extreme they might be, still think of their position as the central reference point.
8. Moderators are evil oppressive fascists, attacking those who disagree with the liberal/conservative views of the forum.
9. Most people way overestimate their debate skills, while others overestimate them only slightly.
10. I'm a liberal/anarchist/fascist/commie/capitalist/hick/black racist/heretic/deluded religionist/freethinker/rationalist/genius/idiot.

Hm. Let's see what I have learned.
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10. I'm a liberal/anarchist/fascist/commie/capitalist/hick/black racist/heretic/deluded religionist/freethinker/rationalist/genius/idiot.Welcome to the club :D

I've also learned that hope is all some people have, and there are people that want to take even that from them.

I've learned that the only mind you can change is your own, and that not often.

thanks for that earwig LG...

now my co-workers are wondering why I'm mumbling something about Llamas...

ringringringringring...Banana Phone!

I'll take your llamas any day...:(

Here's a peek:

http://www.relaxorium.com/journalpics/thellamasong.swf

:)

thanks for that earwig LG...

now my co-workers are wondering why I'm mumbling something about Llamas...

ringringringringring...Banana Phone!

Telesha, I have one question.
Why did you do that to all of us? :p

ringringringringring...Banana Phone!

I'll take your llamas any day...:(

considering I have Badgers (http://www.badgerbadgerbadger.com/) running around with Lions and Tigers in Kenya (http://www.weebls-stuff.com/toons/kenya/)... you can take the whole F'ing zoo!
:p

Telesha, I have one question.
Why did you do that to all of us? :p

Something I learned from NSG:

it pays to spread the suffering :D

For example:

considering I have Badgers running around with Lions and Tigers in Kenya... you can take the whole F'ing zoo!


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I'll get you next time...

badgerbadgerbadgerbadger...DAMMIT!

I've just recently learned by reading these last few posts, that some insane asylums obviously provide internet service, I mean, surely there aren't any crazies wandering the streets of the world, right? RIGHT? aww man....

I've just recently learned by reading these last few posts, that some insane asylums obviously provide internet service, I mean, surely there aren't any crazies wandering the streets of the world, right? RIGHT? aww man....

I do not "wander" the streets.

My havoc is very much directed.

I do not "wander" the streets.

My havoc is very much directed.

Indeed, but you are not locked in a padded cell, thus you are free to "wander" the streets and "Direct" you havoc at more than just NSG.

Indeed, but you are not locked in a padded cell, thus you are free to "wander" the streets and "Direct" you havoc at more than just NSG.

No, just a cubicle. Which I suppose is close enough.

Damn reality, making me have to work to eat...

The brown bread is actually suprisingly good. The aerosol pancake batter.... damages my brain.
The brown bread is awesome. I haven't had it in years, but I'm glad to know it's still around.

thanks for that earwig LG...

now my co-workers are wondering why I'm mumbling something about Llamas...

I am a corporate whistle-blower. :)

I've just recently learned by reading these last few posts, that some insane asylums obviously provide internet service, I mean, surely there aren't any crazies wandering the streets of the world, right? RIGHT? aww man....

Sometimes I wander the streets. :)

You keep using that word. I do not think it means what you think it means.

NSG in a nutshell.

NSG in a nutshell.

Add in a "you win the thread" and you've nailed it down.

That people can be incredibly intelligent and so incredibly stupid at the same time.

And that I'm an even worse speller than I thought.

That I'm better than everyone else.
I learned that too! I wonder how many other people are better than everyone else?

I've learned that I can't make everybody laugh, but I can make anybody laugh. :)

i grew up in maine where baked bean suppers at the grange hall are a tradition.

its not the BM is the gas.

my mom used to make home made brown bread. even when its home made its made in a can.

have you tried the bisquick shake and pour pancakes? that spray thing seems kinda freaky to me.

Shake and Pour for the win. I like the blueberry best, though I have had the plain and the buttermilk as well.

Ive learned that no one reads your posts and even if they do, they will simply just infer things that arent there.

And that just about anyone can plagiarise from your posts, wittingly or otherwise, for nefarious or innocuous means and ends. :p

That many here are anti-AQ
There are many bird-lover
Some racist (my friend!)
Some Bolsheveik.
Some Neo-Nazi
Some Extreme-[insert the religion here]
Many others...

That no matter what you start as your thread it will almost always end up discussing something else

I have learned that no matter how meticulously constructed your argument LG can still make a joke of it.

I have learned that no matter what you say someone will find a way to take offense to it.

I have learned to never mention other people's opinions because some wise ass will interperate it as your own and commense attacking it; potentially causing flame wars.

I have learned that no matter how meticulously constructed your argument LG can still make a joke of it.

I have learned that no matter what you say someone will find a way to take offense to it.

I have learned to never mention other people's opinions because some wise ass will interperate it as your own and commense attacking it; potentially causing flame wars.

I object to that!
Oh wait ah i see your argument for the death penalty has many error.....
Oh not that one er i like bunsen burners too....no not that one......erm..........yes?

I've learned that I can't make everybody laugh, but I can make anybody laugh. :)

you almost always make me laugh, and are the sole reason I ever come to general. By far on all of nationstates you are and always have been my favorite of all posters.

I have learned never to ask for a link to tubgirl just because you want to see what the fuss was all about.:eek:

I didn't learn anything...

I have learned never to ask for a link to tubgirl just because you want to see what the fuss was all about.:eek:

Hint: Goatse and Lemon Party are not what I would consider tasteful, either.

Hint: Goatse and Lemon Party are not what I would consider tasteful, either.

Just Great. Now my wife is curious and wants to look up Lemon Party, and I am leaving the room.:p

Just Great. Now my wife is curious and wants to look up Lemon Party, and I am leaving the room.:p

Bwahahahahahaaaa!

*takes the Pure Evil baseball cap from her honey, wear for a while*

I have learned that learning is overrated.
Gorgias was right, knowing what you're talking about is neither required, nor helpful, for convincing others to see your viewpoint.

From my time spent lurking in the forums, I find that if I stretch my sanity far enough on a certain issue, it matches the views of at least one of the posters here.

you almost always make me laugh, and are the sole reason I ever come to general. By far on all of nationstates you are and always have been my favorite of all posters.

NSG has been a great audience for me. It's quite a challenge to develop an online persona that so closely resembles your real life persona without ever speaking a word.

It has actually helped me develop a stand-up comedy routine. I perform for the first time on stage tonight. I'm shitting kittens. :)

It has actually helped me develop a stand-up comedy routine. I perform for the first time on stage tonight. I'm shitting kittens. :)

I'm not sure shitting kittens, as funny as it is with your friends in the basement of a Friday evening, will go down too well with the wider public.

I'm no expert of course but good luck with that.

I'm not sure shitting kittens, as funny as it is with your friends in the basement of a Friday evening, will go down too well with the wider public.

I'm no expert of course but good luck with that.

I'm actually hoping to have all the kittens shat by then. But I may have to improv a little should my pants start mewing. :p

I have learned never to ask for a link to tubgirl just because you want to see what the fuss was all about.:eek:

Ah, some people *never* learn that one. :p

That no matter what you start as your thread it will almost always end up discussing something else
Ayup.
<.<
>.>

Ah, some people *never* learn that one. :p

It is something only learned through experience. I myself am scarred for life.

I'm actually hoping to have all the kittens shat by then. But I may have to improv a little should my pants start mewing. :p

I have learned that mostly none of what LG says makes much sense, and there is always talk of pie!

I'm actually hoping to have all the kittens shat by then. But I may have to improv a little should my pants start mewing. :p

Expect to fail. At first. No comedian, no matter how talented, gets it right from the start and every time. People are going to laugh at you sometimes, with you sometimes, and start blankly at you sometimes. But, I suspect, you'll do quite well if you simply have the gallstones to stand before them enough to get the rhythm and the material just right. I look forward to watching you some day on the Tonight Show. Or maybe just opening up for a stripper.

Oh, and one more thing, no matter how bad the audience has turned and how upset you might be, don't ever starting calling people the N word and talking about how they'd be lynched if they'd talked to you that way in a different time. It's frowned upon.

Expect to fail. At first. No comedian, no matter how talented, gets it right from the start and every time.Here's the thing, when is the first time? LG is funny, and while he may not have done improv at a bar before, it's probably not the first time he's done stand up comedy ;)

Here's the thing, when is the first time? LG is funny, and while he may not have done improv at a bar before, it's probably not the first time he's done stand up comedy ;)

He said it's his first time on stage. It's a big move. I've performed on stage quite a bit and it's huge when you're alone and people are expecting you to hit hard and fast. That's the difference between a known comedian and a starter. People give you the benefit of time when they know you. But when you're new, you have to hit fast and often. I'm sure he'll be fine with time and if he keeps his wits about him he may be fine this time, but he should be prepared to get knocked down a couple of times. It's part of the game.

Oh, I did learn that a poll should have at least 1 funny or ridiculous option.

I have learned that learning is overrated.
Gorgias was right, knowing what you're talking about is neither required, nor helpful, for convincing others to see your viewpoint.

mur whut?
i think it certainly helps to know about a topic before debating about it, debating helps you learn new information by engaging your brain, the people who flame usually lose out pretty fast.
But you do make a valid point you can get by with really good debating skills, and in essence yes most debates are about who can shout the loudest.
E.g. have you ever talked to someone and no matter how much evidence you give for your opinion or how backward their reasoning they just will not budge their opinion? I've come across that, and sometimes it's funny others it's just really irritating. ( could link this to the boo hooray theory made by logical positivists to allow debates on morality to continue in philosophy).
Of course not everyone who debates in a heated way is wrong and sometimes they are correct, but i prefer to give my messages in an open manner even if i am talking absolute rubbish because then i don't look quite as bad when i'm proved wrong (which has occured in the past), and you're more convincing if you make your messages friendly than if they're heated.
I've never managed to get across my opinion on a topic until i had adapted my arguments and speech to be understood by all people, and there is lots of confusion when chatting online too.
That sums up how i feel about posting online oh dear that was a bit longer than i intended.

The people don't think through their opinions, and they don't want to.

QFT

I have learned never to ask for a link to tubgirl just because you want to see what the fuss was all about.:eek:

What is this, Tubgirl you speak of, or Goatse and Lemon Party?:confused:

What is tubgirl?

What is this, Tubgirl you speak of, or Goatse and Lemon Party?:confused:

What is tubgirl?

You will both be happier without the answer to that question. Trust me.
That's what I learned from NSG.

It is something only learned through experience. I myself am scarred for life.
So many scars that i kinda brush it away like dandruff at this point. :p
And, thanks for Lemonparty. That was just as much ick as i should've expected.

So many scars that i kinda brush it away like dandruff at this point. :p
And, thanks for Lemonparty. That was just as much ick as i should've expected.

Don't blame me. Kat mentioned it.

What is tubgirl?

What is this, Tubgirl you speak of, or Goatse and Lemon Party?:confused:

You will both be happier without the answer to that question. Trust me.
That's what I learned from NSG.

Agreed, they are paths much better off unexplored.

Agreed, they are paths much better off unexplored.Definitely!! I caught the Tubgirl once by accident, one of the old MichaelJackson666 puppet posts, <shudder> I still feel like puking just thinking about it...

You will both be happier without the answer to that question. Trust me.
That's what I learned from NSG.

ORLY

Definitely!! I caught the Tubgirl once by accident, one of the old MichaelJackson666 puppet posts, <shudder> I still feel like puking just thinking about it...

I googled them once, having no idea what they were. I didn't go back for a second look.