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A friend of mine is a high school teacher. His school recently received some informational pamphlets from an anti-gay organization that wants to be permitted to come speak to the students during their sex ed classes, to tell them about how homosexuality is a choice--and a bad one!--and choosing to be queer will make your genitals rot off.

This has inspired my pal to begin collecting personal stories from heterosexuals, stories of how straight men and women made the courageous choice to be not-queer.

He feels this will be very helpful to the students. They'll be able to read real-life accounts of how heterosexuals made the Right Choice(tm) and rejected the sinful allure of homosexuality.

Unfortunately, I was unable to offer a story of my own, but I thought that NSG would be a great place to ask for other people's stories. It's obviously anonymous here, so please feel free to be totally honest!

You mean I have to make a choice ?
And that it has to to be permanent, without the possibity of changing my mind ?

You.. you.. evil person !

A friend of mine is a high school teacher. His school recently received some informational pamphlets from an anti-gay organization that wants to be permitted to come speak to the students during their sex ed classes, to tell them about how homosexuality is a choice--and a bad one!--and choosing to be queer will make your genitals rot off.

This has inspired my pal to begin collecting personal stories from heterosexuals, stories of how straight men and women made the courageous choice to be not-queer.

He feels this will be very helpful to the students. They'll be able to read real-life accounts of how heterosexuals made the Right Choice(tm) and rejected the sinful allure of homosexuality.

Unfortunately, I was unable to offer a story of my own, but I thought that NSG would be a great place to ask for other people's stories. It's obviously anonymous here, so please feel free to be totally honest!

I've always been suspicious of people who think homosexuality is a choice...


EDIT: That aside. How about, my formative years were filled with people calling anything bad "gay" and anyone who didn't fit the prefered male archetype as a "fag." I was therefore so browbeaten I gave into peer pressure.

Not unlike why I started smoking :)

Unfortunately, I was unable to offer a story of my own, but I thought that NSG would be a great place to ask for other people's stories. It's obviously anonymous here, so please feel free to be totally honest!I was three or so when I realised I'd always liked women. Mind you, I hadn't really developed any sexual desires yet, but I clearly had a preference for women.

Hmm, I don't know when I chose to become heterosexual, I guess I was to young to remember.

With the benefit of hindsight though, I must admit that the succulent female breasts of my mother were vastly preferable over menboobs when I was a little nipper.

I blame them.

Waits for Fass...

People can...choose that? Wow. I've been living in a cave.

**goes insane**

With the benefit of hindsight though, I must admit that the succulent female breasts of my mother...



Mr. La Forge, set course for the Creepy Nebula, Warp 6. Engage.

Mr. La Forge, set course for the Creepy Nebula, Warp 6. Engage.

Behold the miracles of advanced spacefaring civilisations: breastfeeding is now creepy ;)

It was in middle school, first day of seventh grade, when I was discovering my budding (somewhat slowly) sexuality, and I was just chillaxin' when that one girl came into the room, who had started to...shall we say...develop nicely. I knew when I saw those tatas trying to poke out from that shirt that I knew I wanted to see it all. Bing! I chose heterosexuality!

Choice?

Not likely, unless...

unless we learn a lot more about genetics, pre-natal development, brain structure and function, and...

hmm....

They'd have a serious conniption if we ever learn that Embryonic Stem Stell Research might lead to a "Cure" for homosexuality.

On the far left AND the far right!

Why shouldn't we be able to choose?

If culture can change the hardwiring of your brain…
"There's a hint that six months in a culture already changes you," he said, referring to psychological, rather than neurological, research. "It suggests that there's a lot of flexibility."

...we saw a difference in higher-processing brain areas. People from different cultures don’t see the world differently, but they think differently about what they see." http://www.livescience.com/health/080118-culture-brain.html

Different article about the same finding...
http://www.physorg.com/news119269414.html

And according to the Dali Lama, thinking can change the brain structure of monks.
In each case, monks with the most hours of meditation showed the most
dramatic brain changes. That was a strong hint that mental training makes it
easier for the brain to turn on circuits that underlie compassion and empathy.

"This positive state is a skill that can be trained," Prof. Davidson says.
"Our findings clearly indicate that meditation can change the function of
the brain in an enduring way."
http://www.ahrp.org/cms/index2.php?option=com_content&do_pdf=1&id=435

And if all of that turns out to be correct (and the evidence seems to support it) then there is no reason that a person couldn't control their own choices in likes and dislikes, cultural processes and even how their brain functions when problem solving/functioning. Why shouldn't we be able to ‘choose’ our sexual identity if we can change everything else?

Pretending that we are ‘hardwired’ from birth (or any such variable) resulting in our personal outcomes being something that is out of our own control is archaic thinking.

Pretending that we are ‘hardwired’ from birth (or any such variable) resulting in our personal outcomes being something that is out of our own control is archaic thinking.We can try this out by seeing if having a left-handed kid playing only with right-handed kids will make him or her right-handed.

We can try this out by seeing if having a left-handed kid playing only with right-handed kids will make him or her right-handed.

Cut off both of your hands and learn how to use your feet.

Cut off both of your hands and learn how to use your feet.But that wouldn't be the case of a culture changing you.

But that wouldn't be the case of a culture changing you.

Showing that you can change the hardwiring of your brain is what it would do.

Y'know...I can't even make a joke about this. I found women more attractive to me than men...and that's that. Not that men aren't attractive...just not not me.

I hope your friend's school isn't seriously considering inviting these chumps to speak in their health classes.

We can try this out by seeing if having a left-handed kid playing only with right-handed kids will make him or her right-handed.Cut off both of your hands and learn how to use your feet.most football players have learned to score with either feet.

Showing that you can change the hardwiring of your brain is what it would do.Of course you can change the hardwiring of your brain if you use brutal enough methods.

My aunt was left handed, but on school (1950s) they forced her to use her right hand. Now she's right handed. However one of her sons is left handed (just like me and another cousin).Balderdash's article was about people changing by being immersed in a different culture. That leaves to ask whether doing that will rewire something as profound as handedness or sexuality without having to resort to brainwashing or force.

We can try this out by seeing if having a left-handed kid playing only with right-handed kids will make him or her right-handed.

My aunt was left handed, but on school (1950s) they forced her to use her right hand. Now she's right handed. However one of her sons is left handed (just like me and another cousin).

Why shouldn't we be able to choose?

If culture can change the hardwiring of your brain…
"There's a hint that six months in a culture already changes you," he said, referring to psychological, rather than neurological, research. "It suggests that there's a lot of flexibility."

...we saw a difference in higher-processing brain areas. People from different cultures don’t see the world differently, but they think differently about what they see." http://www.livescience.com/health/080118-culture-brain.html

Different article about the same finding...
http://www.physorg.com/news119269414.html

And according to the Dali Lama, thinking can change the brain structure of monks.
In each case, monks with the most hours of meditation showed the most
dramatic brain changes. That was a strong hint that mental training makes it
easier for the brain to turn on circuits that underlie compassion and empathy.

"This positive state is a skill that can be trained," Prof. Davidson says.
"Our findings clearly indicate that meditation can change the function of
the brain in an enduring way."
http://www.ahrp.org/cms/index2.php?option=com_content&do_pdf=1&id=435

And if all of that turns out to be correct (and the evidence seems to support it) then there is no reason that a person couldn't control their own choices in likes and dislikes, cultural processes and even how their brain functions when problem solving/functioning. Why shouldn't we be able to ‘choose’ our sexual identity if we can change everything else?

Pretending that we are ‘hardwired’ from birth (or any such variable) resulting in our personal outcomes being something that is out of our own control is archaic thinking.

Cool... I'd love to choose to be lesbian. So far, I've only managed a bit of bi, but I still like cocks better. How do I change that?

We can try this out by seeing if having a left-handed kid playing only with right-handed kids will make him or her right-handed.

*raises hand*

Doesn't work. Never has worked and never will work.
I'm left-handed myself, and it's genetic in my family. My grandfather and my aunt and uncle were forced under tears and for years to learn to write with their right hands. They can do it now, but their handwriting is still shakey and looks like a child's (and my grandfather has been writing for well over 70 years now), and when eating, drawing, etc. both use their left hand.
My grandfather is a rather skilled artist in watercolour and ink drawings, but only with his left hand. He can't even draw a smillie with his right.

Yes, there are some aspects of the brain that are flexible. Parts of the brain can be trained much like muscles. Parts can be formed and influenced during infancy but not later. And parts just cannot ever be changed at all, no matter how much you work to repress them.

If heterosexuality is a choice, then you really can't be sure that you're hetero until you've tried all your options. I'm more than happy to help with anyone who's trying to be sure they're heterosexual... for the sake of Jesus, of course. Personally, I tried it out and it didn't work so well, but I suppose it just isn't for everyone.

~Merric "10% is not enough - recruit, recruit, recruit!"

most football players have learned to score with either feet.

And get paid obscene amounts of money for that.
Is it worth obscene amounts of money to promote bisexuality ;) ?

Why shouldn't we be able to choose?

If culture can change the hardwiring of your brain…
*snipped for length*

And if all of that turns out to be correct (and the evidence seems to support it) then there is no reason that a person couldn't control their own choices in likes and dislikes, cultural processes and even how their brain functions when problem solving/functioning. Why shouldn't we be able to ‘choose’ our sexual identity if we can change everything else?

Pretending that we are ‘hardwired’ from birth (or any such variable) resulting in our personal outcomes being something that is out of our own control is archaic thinking.
That's all great, and thank you for sharing, but I'm really just looking for people's personal stories.

You appear to be quite aware that heterosexuality is a choice, so I'm sure you've got a great story to share with us!

Cool... I'd love to choose to be lesbian. So far, I've only managed a bit of bi, but I still like cocks better. How do I change that?

Stop looking at them!
;)
(Sadly, it's not working for me as the boyfriends disagrees...)

As for my story of choosing to be straight, it's well, non-existent because I'm not... I'm a greedy bisexual slut.

And get paid obscene amounts of money for that.
Is it worth obscene amounts of money to promote bisexuality ;) ?

Gimme obscene amounts of money and I'll promote it all right :D

Stop looking at them!
;)
(Sadly, it's not working for me as the boyfriends disagrees...)

As for my story of choosing to be straight, it's well, non-existent because I'm not... I'm a greedy bisexual slut.

:eep:

I've got competition!!!

:D:fluffle:

Behold the miracles of advanced spacefaring civilisations: breastfeeding is now creepy ;)

It was more the amount of detail he put into describing his mother's breast.

I have a choice? In that case... I'll stick with being bi, that way I can always be free to choose either way! :)

I had a dream about choosing to be heterosexual. The sexuality fairy visited me in my dream, and she was hot. But then I chose to be heterosexual and she suddenly wasn't attractive anymore. Then I woke up and I was myself again - mostly attracted to men and occasionally attracted to women.

Why shouldn't we be able to choose?
<snip for being very long>

And if all of that turns out to be correct (and the evidence seems to support it) then there is no reason that a person couldn't control their own choices in likes and dislikes, cultural processes and even how their brain functions when problem solving/functioning. Why shouldn't we be able to ‘choose’ our sexual identity if we can change everything else?

Pretending that we are ‘hardwired’ from birth (or any such variable) resulting in our personal outcomes being something that is out of our own control is archaic thinking.

Yes, there is evidence that environmental experiences can affect certain aspects of the brain's hard-wiring. We're still certain what, and how, but yes it is a two-way process. Up to a point. The brain is highly complex, cultural experiences, personal experiences etc will determine how we interpret the world (based on expectations, known as schemas). Often these changes are related to personality traits or cognitive processes but only up to a point, there is still a certain amount of hard-wiring involved. There are other aspects of the brain that appears significantly more hard-wired and are not changeable by experience and sexuality is liable to be one of these, being more fundamental and probably related to affective and phyisiological responses to others rather than cognitive or personality variables.

Otherwise why do you think you get people who are gay even in highly, highly heterosexual cultures where homosexual behaviour is illegal and even punishable by death (see, for example, Saudi Arabia). I doubt anyone in these cultures would choose to be gay if they could choose not to be.

Bottle you broke my brain.

Aw man, Bottle! :mad:

http://i12.photobucket.com/albums/a205/ulteriormotives/Youre-a-MONSTER.jpg

I have a choice? In that case... I'll stick with being bi, that way I can always be free to choose either way! :)

being bi isn't a choice because bi doesn't exist. Just admit it, you don't care either way, you just want the sex.


I chose to be hetro! Here's how it goes....I got married, won't have sex with anyone but my husband, and therefore I chose to be hetro? right? hmm.... I know I chose to get married, and I know I choose to be monogamous.... so, if I can only be monogamous with my husband then I chose to be hetro? because I chose a life of hetro sex? I am occasionally attracted to females, but surely that's just a flaw in my brain, or do I choose that too? hmmm.......

Bottle you broke my brain.

:eep:

I've got competition!!!
:D :fluffle:


YUP!
(Unless you want to team up and rule the world...)
:fluffle:


We can try this out by seeing if having a left-handed kid playing only with right-handed kids will make him or her right-handed.
*raises hand*

Doesn't work. Never has worked and never will work.
I'm left-handed myself, and it's genetic in my family. My grandfather and my aunt and uncle were forced under tears and for years to learn to write with their right hands. They can do it now, but their handwriting is still shakey and looks like a child's (and my grandfather has been writing for well over 70 years now), and when eating, drawing, etc. both use their left hand.
My grandfather is a rather skilled artist in watercolour and ink drawings, but only with his left hand. He can't even draw a smillie with his right.

Yes, there are some aspects of the brain that are flexible. Parts of the brain can be trained much like muscles. Parts can be formed and influenced during infancy but not later. And parts just cannot ever be changed at all, no matter how much you work to repress them.


I'm naturally left handed, forced to write with my non-dominant hand by my primary school Afrikaans teacher... the result? A whole lot of neurosis, some of the most god-awful handwriting you've ever seen, an inability to learn Afrikaans properly no matter how hard I try, huge amounts of self-worth and esteem issues, enormous trust issues, and even worse dyslexia than I had to start with...
I'm only now teaching myself how to write with my left hand again.
(I've played sport and done most things with both until now, still left dominant)

A friend of mine is a high school teacher. His school recently received some informational pamphlets from an anti-gay organization that wants to be permitted to come speak to the students during their sex ed classes, to tell them about how homosexuality is a choice--and a bad one!--and choosing to be queer will make your genitals rot off.

This has inspired my pal to begin collecting personal stories from heterosexuals, stories of how straight men and women made the courageous choice to be not-queer.

He feels this will be very helpful to the students. They'll be able to read real-life accounts of how heterosexuals made the Right Choice(tm) and rejected the sinful allure of homosexuality.

Unfortunately, I was unable to offer a story of my own, but I thought that NSG would be a great place to ask for other people's stories. It's obviously anonymous here, so please feel free to be totally honest!
Actually, seeing how I'm a volunteer worker for a nonprofit organization that visits classes to teach about and answer questions pertaining to sexual diversity, I can't contribute anything to your friend's collection.

I do, however, appreciate the trouble through which your friend is going only to meet the anti-gay people with derision. The people who think sexual orientation is a choice really deserve that everyone else point their fingers at them and laugh until all the wind is driven from their lungs. And then take a deep breath and laugh some more.

YUP!
(Unless you want to team up and rule the world...)
:fluffle:



I think teaming up and making the world tremble before us sounds about right ... :D

:fluffle:


I'm naturally left handed, forced to write with my non-dominant hand by my primary school Afrikaans teacher... the result? A whole lot of neurosis, some of the most god-awful handwriting you've ever seen, an inability to learn Afrikaans properly no matter how hard I try, huge amounts of self-worth and esteem issues, enormous trust issues, and even worse dyslexia than I had to start with...
I'm only now teaching myself how to write with my left hand again.
(I've played sport and done most things with both until now, still left dominant)

Aw... :(
Seriously, I can't even begin to imagine how horrible that must have been. I remember my father seeing that I picked up a crayon with my left hand and completely freaking out (I can't have been more than 2 at the time and had NO clue what this was all about). He tried making me draw with my right for a bit, but that just made me cry... I think he was terrified that I would have to go through that same as his sister had. My gran later told me that seeing that had given him nightmares at the time.

I think teaming up and making the world tremble before us sounds about right ... :D

:fluffle:

Aw... :(
Seriously, I can't even begin to imagine how horrible that must have been. I remember my father seeing that I picked up a crayon with my left hand and completely freaking out (I can't have been more than 2 at the time and had NO clue what this was all about). He tried making me draw with my right for a bit, but that just made me cry... I think he was terrified that I would have to go through that same as his sister had. My gran later told me that seeing that had given him nightmares at the time.


GO TEAM GO!!!
:p

Trust me, you are very lucky not to have had that happen.
The irony is that my class teacher was left-handed (and incidentally a lesbian), but the principal had issues with her and fired her halfway through the year, meaning that the afrikaans teacher (who didn't actually have the correct training) took over for quite a while. Leading to half a year of torture before my mom took me out and home-schooled me, but alas the damage was done. It was hard enough undoing (and still am busy undoing) the language issues, let alone anything else. I probably would have learnt to read and write at most a year after the other kids as opposed to three years later.
I can now vaguely pass an Afrikaans test though, and people now ask me how to spell things, which I find rather ironic. :)

i dont see what the big deal is. i mean if people want to be gay or lesbian you should let them and mind your own business. i mean yeah sure we love differently and im only saying this because i am a lesbian and ive been dealing with the same issue for 3 years when i came out. and since then, i have been beaten down, put in the hospital, kicked out of my parents home and lost most of my friends and my family treats me like im a disease. its just not fair, then again, whats fair in life? :confused:

I didn't get to choose. One of my schoolmates was straight, and I caught it.

i dont see what the big deal is. i mean if people want to be gay or lesbian you should let them and mind your own business. i mean yeah sure we love differently and im only saying this because i am a lesbian and ive been dealing with the same issue for 3 years when i came out. and since then, i have been beaten down, put in the hospital, kicked out of my parents home and lost most of my friends and my family treats me like im a disease. its just not fair, then again, whats fair in life? :confused:

isnt that the truth!

what do i care if its genetic, a genetic predisposition that combines with environment or just a flat out choice?

THERE IS NOTHING WRONG WITH IT!

i hope your situation improves as you are able to choose your own life. getting away from such a bad family will be liberating for you.

YUP!
(Unless you want to team up and rule the world...)
:fluffle:



I'm naturally left handed, forced to write with my non-dominant hand by my primary school Afrikaans teacher... the result? A whole lot of neurosis, some of the most god-awful handwriting you've ever seen, an inability to learn Afrikaans properly no matter how hard I try, huge amounts of self-worth and esteem issues, enormous trust issues, and even worse dyslexia than I had to start with...
I'm only now teaching myself how to write with my left hand again.
(I've played sport and done most things with both until now, still left dominant)

Slut power!!!

Or rather...
Lefty bi slut power! :D

Slut power!!!

Or rather...
Lefty bi slut power! :D

this is beginning to sound like that weekend I had in vegas.....

ohhhh...

*Prepares to be subjugated*

*subjugates*
;)

Slut power!!!

Or rather...
Lefty bi slut power!

*celebrates*

Did you know there is an entire facebook group dedicated to attractive, petite, left-handed redheads? Amazingly large.

this thread makes me sad because I know a hot lesbian :(:p

i dont see what the big deal is. i mean if people want to be gay or lesbian you should let them and mind your own business. i mean yeah sure we love differently and im only saying this because i am a lesbian and ive been dealing with the same issue for 3 years when i came out. and since then, i have been beaten down, put in the hospital, kicked out of my parents home and lost most of my friends and my family treats me like im a disease. its just not fair, then again, whats fair in life? :confused:

just remember that they have to huddle up to hairy beats who's purpose in life is to burp, fart and act all superior :)

this is why I can't be gay though Ripley in her underwear at the end of Aliens almost made me asexual

my choice? possibly when I first snuck porn outta my parents room. Seeing those women and the nice feelings it gave me... *sigh*

then I came cross Playgirl at my local bookstore and it did not stir any such feelings... infact it was the opposite.

Guess then I knew then that I am... HETEROSEXUAL! *sob*

I think teaming up and making the world tremble before us sounds about right ... :D
:fluffle:

ohhhh...

*Prepares to be subjugated*

ohhhh...

*Prepares to be subjugated*

"Assume the party escort submission position"

one of my best friends thinks it's a choice, or at least she thinks there's room for argument there. she slept with girls and guys when she was younger and then ultimately decided she liked the cock. now, to me that would make her bisexual with a distinct preference for men but she insists she's all straight. she puts her teenage experimentation down to going to an all-girls school and that that was totally ordinary behaviour, but i don't think that's necessarily true.

i certainly didn't choose my sexuality, sometimes i wish i could have.

being bi isn't a choice because bi doesn't exist. Just admit it, you don't care either way, you just want the sex.

I'm a fence rider and founder of the Not Know!(C) Society. When Not Know(C) is declared, you have to pull down your pants and dance around with a broom. So being bi is mandatory! :)

Choice?

Not likely, unless...

unless we learn a lot more about genetics, pre-natal development, brain structure and function, and...

hmm....

They'd have a serious conniption if we ever learn that Embryonic Stem Stell Research might lead to a "Cure" for homosexuality.

On the far left AND the far right!

Are you kidding? If embryonic stem cells "cured" homosexuality, the country would go deaf and suffer massive earthquakes from the sound of the colossal flip-flop from religious organizations across the continent. That would be the ONLY thing that would make religion support (or at least stop misrepresenting and demonizing) ESC research.

I didnt choose my preference. My preference chose me :D

one of my best friends thinks it's a choice, or at least she thinks there's room for argument there. she slept with girls and guys when she was younger and then ultimately decided she liked the cock. now, to me that would make her bisexual with a distinct preference for men but she insists she's all straight. she puts her teenage experimentation down to going to an all-girls school and that that was totally ordinary behaviour, but i don't think that's necessarily true.

i certainly didn't choose my sexuality, sometimes i wish i could have.

You should have been gay. Gay guys get all the girls.

*subjugates*
;)

Yay!

oopps... err...

"thank you mistress!" :p

I'll admit that I'm a voyeur, and that sexual activity regardless of orientation can turn me on. However, in personal preference, I know I'm hetero because I had the chance to be part of a threesome in Japan with a straight woman and a bi man. As soon as the man began going after my bum with enough ardor for me to realize he meant business, I bolted (literally -- I got up, pulled up my pants, thanked them both for a lovely evening and went back to my flat -- they continued, as well they should have). I'm not proud of it, and I'm not even suggesting that the right circumstances wouldn't allow me to enjoy an encounter of that kind if it presented itself again. But I'm sure that I'm largely straight.

this is beginning to sound like that weekend I had in vegas.....

o.0 Doooo telll...


really, do tell! :D

You should have been gay. Gay guys get all the girls.

too true

I'll admit that I'm a voyeur, and that sexual activity regardless of orientation can turn me on. However, in personal preference, I know I'm hetero because I had the chance to be part of a threesome in Japan with a straight woman and a bi man. As soon as the man began going after my bum with enough ardor for me to realize he meant business, I bolted (literally -- I got up, pulled up my pants, thanked them both for a lovely evening and went back to my flat -- they continued, as well they should have). I'm not proud of it, and I'm not even suggesting that the right circumstances wouldn't allow me to enjoy an encounter of that kind if it presented itself again. But I'm sure that I'm largely straight.
I'm not trying to pick on you, but that's not really an answer to my question.

Lots of people don't like anal sex. I know I don't. But that's quite different from talking about one's sexual orientation.

o.0 Doooo telll...


really, do tell! :D

Nothing much was happening so he started posting on NSG.

A friend of mine is a high school teacher. His school recently received some informational pamphlets from an anti-gay organization that wants to be permitted to come speak to the students during their sex ed classes, to tell them about how homosexuality is a choice--and a bad one!--and choosing to be queer will make your genitals rot off.

This has inspired my pal to begin collecting personal stories from heterosexuals, stories of how straight men and women made the courageous choice to be not-queer.

He feels this will be very helpful to the students. They'll be able to read real-life accounts of how heterosexuals made the Right Choice(tm) and rejected the sinful allure of homosexuality.

Unfortunately, I was unable to offer a story of my own, but I thought that NSG would be a great place to ask for other people's stories. It's obviously anonymous here, so please feel free to be totally honest!

Well, tell your friend I will be glad to reject homosexuality, but that I am confused about the "allure" bit. Why is this "bane of creation" alluring to everyone but me? The damn devil does not even try to tempt me! He just laughs. :mad: What? Am I not "good enough"?

Nothing much was happening so he started posting on NSG.

Yeah. Vegas is actually not that interesting. Television and movies make it out to be far more than it is.

I'm not trying to pick on you, but that's not really an answer to my question.

Lots of people don't like anal sex. I know I don't. But that's quite different from talking about one's sexual orientation.

Fair enough. I was 20 at the time of that particular incident, so my preference was well-ensconced by then. I suppose it "happened" at about 6 or 7. I discovered that when the girls in my neighborhood would play at kissing me, I really liked it, and not so much the boys. I went through some experimentation with boys up through about 10 or 11, but became convinced I was vastly hetero as I became a regular at open swim at my local municipally-run swimming pool. Even as nearsighted as I was, women and girls in bathing suits lit me up like a roman candle. There were times in 6th grade when I'd have to "swim off" an erection before getting out of the pool in order to avoid embarrassing myself.

I've kissed men while both sober and drunk, but while it was fine, it never lit me up like those summer evenings between 6 & 7:30pm at the pool in 1982. Those were the days.

Mo' betta?

thank you Ashmoria for agreeing with me on this very sensitive topic. things are looking up for me some, i have a wonderful fiance and i love her to death and she loves me. as far as my family, lost cause :headbang: i just wish more people would understand just how hard it is to choose. i mean all my life ive done what i could to be different because i dont like to be like everybody else. but hey, if u want to talk more, join me at www.nationstates.net. my nation is Shinsua. you have to join under the The Rogue Nation of Tsunzaku. its a really fun site and well be able to chat :)

Ahh, yes. I remember my choice to be straight. I remember several instances quite well that led me to this decision. I'll share one or two of them.

One of the earliest ones was this day that my one of my classmates was wearing a low-cut T-shirt and a pleasantly short skirt, and I was called up to the board. I chose, at that point, to have a rather obvious erection as a reaction to her newly-developed body. I, of course, chose this involuntary, automatic reaction so that I could show, to the entire class, that I was most certainly not gay. Oh how they laughed and laughed-- with me, obviously, because there was absolutely nothing embarrassing about that moment.

Indeed, what guy hasn't been in the situation where he was embarrassed because he didn't have an erection when at the board? Who hasn't been in the situation where they deathly want to go up to it so that all may see their sexual arousal in all its glory?

Several years later, when I was in high school, I had a rather attractive English teacher. One day, after class, I stayed behind to ask for clarification on a worksheet that we had been assigned. We sat down and went through it and, as she leaned forward, I chose to be attracted to her. I remember well my thoughts:
"I will be attracted to this teacher, so much that this will cause an erection. When she sees my... reaction, she'll be so flattered that she gives me an A in the class."

Alas, she did not notice my arousal, and I had to earn my grade the old-fashioned way: by constantly telling my teacher how she was my favorite teacher ever and how much I loved her subject. (You see, if you suck up to your teacher like that, they'll change your grade if you fail!)

These incidents, among others, clearly illustrate how I chose to be straight. I mean, if attraction wasn't a choice, then guys would, sometimes, find ourselves in situations where we have an erection that we just want to get down before somebody notices.

We would sometimes be in embarrassing situations where we have to try to conceal our hardened manhoods lest that hot girl in the seat next to you sees it. And, as any guy can tell you from experience, that never happens every day in my Latin class when I sit behind this girl named Jenny.

We can try this out by seeing if having a left-handed kid playing only with right-handed kids will make him or her right-handed.

I tried changing from my right-hand to my left-hand and it worked. I fenced at foil competitions left-handed.

I tried changing from my right-hand to my left-hand and it worked. I fenced at foil competitions left-handed.Any good scientist will tell you that a sample size of 1 is not sufficient :)

Cool... I'd love to choose to be lesbian. So far, I've only managed a bit of bi, but I still like cocks better. How do I change that?

Using the awesome power of negative reinforcement. Any time you're in a sexual situation with cock you get paddled

......

Hmmmm or maybe that wouldn't be negative reinforcement but rather positive. O well back to the drawing board

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ts just not fair, then again, whats fair in life? :confused:

Death.

True, parkus empire. without death, the world would be overcrowded

I was three or so when I realised I'd always liked women. Mind you, I hadn't really developed any sexual desires yet, but I clearly had a preference for women.

I was always (since like, 5) intrigued by my dad's nudie magizines. I was far to young to have genuine sexual urges yet. Perhaps my general taste for the female figure developed then.

I guess I cannot pick out the defining moment that I chose heterosexuality, perhaps it was rather a series of smaller choices made built on the sum of my experience.

Any good scientist will tell you that a sample size of 1 is not sufficient :)

I did it for over a year. But eventually I forced myself back being right-handed, yet ended-up bidexterous. Wait....

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hey Ashmoria, thanks for agreeing with me

True, parkus empire. without death, the world would be overcrowded

More than that. Humans are a miserable bunch of losers that all deserve the death-sentence. Nature provides: know that it will find all of your enemies and kill them like a rampaging Charles Bronson. You yourself will not escape the hitman named Cronus.

Justice for all!

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Ahh, yes. I remember my choice to be straight. I remember several instances quite well that led me to this decision. I'll share one or two of them.

One of the earliest ones was this day that my one of my classmates was wearing a low-cut T-shirt and a pleasantly short skirt, and I was called up to the board. I chose, at that point, to have a rather obvious erection as a reaction to her newly-developed body. I, of course, chose this involuntary, automatic reaction so that I could show, to the entire class, that I was most certainly not gay. Oh how they laughed and laughed-- with me, obviously, because there was absolutely nothing embarrassing about that moment.

Indeed, what guy hasn't been in the situation where he was embarrassed because he didn't have an erection when at the board? Who hasn't been in the situation where they deathly want to go up to it so that all may see their sexual arousal in all its glory?

Several years later, when I was in high school, I had a rather attractive English teacher. One day, after class, I stayed behind to ask for clarification on a worksheet that we had been assigned. We sat down and went through it and, as she leaned forward, I chose to be attracted to her. I remember well my thoughts:
"I will be attracted to this teacher, so much that this will cause an erection. When she sees my... reaction, she'll be so flattered that she gives me an A in the class."

Alas, she did not notice my arousal, and I had to earn my grade the old-fashioned way: by constantly telling my teacher how she was my favorite teacher ever and how much I loved her subject. (You see, if you suck up to your teacher like that, they'll change your grade if you fail!)

These incidents, among others, clearly illustrate how I chose to be straight. I mean, if attraction wasn't a choice, then guys would, sometimes, find ourselves in situations where we have an erection that we just want to get down before somebody notices.

We would sometimes be in embarrassing situations where we have to try to conceal our hardened manhoods lest that hot girl in the seat next to you sees it. And, as any guy can tell you from experience, that never happens every day in my Latin class when I sit behind this girl named Jenny.
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Victoly!

A winner is you.

More than that. Humans are a miserable bunch of losers that all deserve the death-sentence. Nature provides: know that it will find all of your enemies and kill them like a rampaging Charles Bronson. You yourself will not escape the hitman named Cronus.

Justice for all!

Misanthropes are so much fun. Don't you just want to give them a big hug?

well parkus, when death comes for me, i will not run. i will stare it in the face and say, i have lived the good life and i have fought the good fight. true some humans are bad, but none are truly monsters. the only monsters we have to fear are the ones we create

one of my best friends thinks it's a choice, or at least she thinks there's room for argument there. she slept with girls and guys when she was younger and then ultimately decided she liked the cock. now, to me that would make her bisexual with a distinct preference for men but she insists she's all straight. she puts her teenage experimentation down to going to an all-girls school and that that was totally ordinary behaviour, but i don't think that's necessarily true.

i certainly didn't choose my sexuality, sometimes i wish i could have.

From everything I have heard (and I have quite a few female friends throughout high school and college), many women simply can choose, for the most part. I knew girls in high school that seemed to change sexuality like the lunar cycle (as in, farily frequently). I've known women who were completely straight who have enjoyed experimentation (and not solely for the learning experience). Of course there is the genetic predisposition for most people towards heterosexuality (which is the furtherance of our race after all), but perhaps it boils down to women have (in general) grossly different views of sex and relationships than men do. Women are typically more into the emotional aspect... whereas guys thive often off of visual gratification, and direct sexual pleasure (not to say people can't have both).

So, a woman who has been in a terrible relationship with some guy might turn to her galpal due to the emotional support given (I've heard of cases, so no, this is not coming out of no where). Whereas I've never heard of a guy being like "She was a jerk, I think I'll start giving head to my buddies." Because the emotionality is less of an issue, and it comes down, frequently, to the ongoing physical attraction.

Well, one night shortly before puberty, I had a dream in which a glowing, angelic penis appeared to me. And it said, "I AM THE HOLY PENIS. YOU WILL BOW DOWN AND WORSHIP ME, FORSAKING ALL BOOBIES AND VAJAYJAYS."

And since I was, at that time, a good little Catholic girl, I knew I had to follow the orders of the Holy Penis. So I bowed before it, and have done so quite a few times since then.

And that's how I chose to be straight.

I really hope that that is a true story, 'cause it is hilarious!

:D

Well, one night shortly before puberty, I had a dream in which a glowing, angelic penis appeared to me. And it said, "I AM THE HOLY PENIS. YOU WILL BOW DOWN AND WORSHIP ME, FORSAKING ALL BOOBIES AND VAJAYJAYS."

And since I was, at that time, a good little Catholic girl, I knew I had to follow the orders of the Holy Penis. So I bowed before it, and have done so quite a few times since then.

And that's how I chose to be straight.

Can't I just orgasm in peace? :(

I didn't get to choose. One of my schoolmates was straight, and I caught it.

My mom made me stay home for a month because something like that was going around.

Ok, thats not true, I just wanted to be cool and relate. :(

Well, one night shortly before puberty, I had a dream in which a glowing, angelic penis appeared to me. And it said, "I AM THE HOLY PENIS. YOU WILL BOW DOWN AND WORSHIP ME, FORSAKING ALL BOOBIES AND VAJAYJAYS."

And since I was, at that time, a good little Catholic girl, I knew I had to follow the orders of the Holy Penis. So I bowed before it, and have done so quite a few times since then.

And that's how I chose to be straight.

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Misanthropes are so much fun. Don't you just want to give them a big hug?

No. But we have an excellent sense of humor.

And since I was, at that time, a good little Catholic girl, I knew I had to follow the orders of the Holy Penis. So I bowed before it, and have done so quite a few times since then.

And that's how I chose to be straight.

Thank you, Lord, for this bountiful penis

/simpsons

Hehe, I like you, you're silly.

When I was 4, I thought long and hard about it and chose to be straight, so fortunately this discussion doesn't affect me directly.

However, I wonder whether a similar re-education programme might not be applied to religious fanatics and other bigots - I reckon a few lessons in realigning their preferences and prejudices might not go amiss, and then we can all leave each other in peace.

Well, Bottle. I decided 4 months ago, when I realized how much more fun it is to play with male genitalia than female ones.

Well, Bottle. I decided 4 months ago, when I realized how much more fun it is to play with male genitalia than female ones.

!

Oh do tell us more. In detail. With pictures.

well parkus, when death comes for me, i will not run.

I do not see how you could, unless death comes in the form of a bloodthirsty rottweiler, in which case I beg to differ.

i will stare it in the face and say, i have lived the good life and i have fought the good fight.

You will have lived a life like anyone else. I do not believe you "fought" many times, and I do not see the "fight" being "good".

true some humans are bad, but none are truly monsters. the only monsters we have to fear are the ones we create

All humans are bad, and this "monsters" business is philosophical nonsense.

Well, Bottle. I decided 4 months ago, when I realized how much more fun it is to play with male genitalia than female ones.

Well, duh!

Haven't you ever seen 'Puppetry of the Penis'? :rolleyes:

OK, here's my story -

I went through life thinking "mmm women, nice" and not "I find men super sexy". And continue to do so.

It's not really a choice, now, is it?

*bows*

May the blessings of the Holy Penis be upon you all. :D

Ewww... It's everywhere!!!! :eek:

I really hope that that is a true story, 'cause it is hilarious!

:D

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Thank you, Lord, for this bountiful penis

/simpsons

Hehe, I like you, you're silly.

*bows*

May the blessings of the Holy Penis be upon you all. :D

May the blessings of the Holy Penis be upon you all. :D

*ponders the form the blessings of the holy penis would take*

Your ideas are intriguing to me, and I wish to subscribe to your newsletter

Ewww... It's everywhere!!!! :eek:

Oh god, it's in my hair!

Oh god, it's in my hair!

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Who would anyone want to be prosecuted, beaten up, called names, discriminated against, etc?

Do these idiots ever stop to think, just for a minute, that perhaps what they're claiming doesn't make any sense at all?

Hugh Hefner is to blame for my heterosexuality. I was just sitting on the couch a few weeks ago, watching the Girls Next Door, and I realized that in order to constantly be free to lounge around in my robe and get others to love me and respect my prowess, I needed to objectify women completely as sex objects and be wantonly promiscuous. So I chose heterosexuality because it would allow me to do that without the social consequences a homosexual would receive for the same behavior.

Well, I knew I was a bit different from the other kids, at a very young age. At around 3 years old, I was caught looking at naked women, with my pants down, comparing parts. Oh, the shame of being caught as straight:(. Through out high school I would catch myself looking at women every chance I got. When I first started college, I even caught myself wanting to bring back women to my place for cheap sex...About that time i came out to my parents that i was straight. They haven't really looked at me the same since then.


(me---> :( :sniper: <-----Life

Being gay would be pretty good. I'd have better dress sense, for a start.

However, I'm in a very committed relationship with a woman, so it aint gonna happen.

Every morning I wake up and renew my heterosexual vows.
Then I rape and pillage nearby villages.
You know, for good measure.

I chose to make people think I was heterosexual when around those who would ridicule me and/or make my life hell if I didn't. During times where that wasn't the case I've been biseckzual.

I first became aware of my heterosexuality well before puberty. Sometimes I think I have always been this way, but lately there's been so much debate about choice that now I'm not so sure.

I don't really know what made me heterosexual. It could have been all that socialisation. It could have been genetics, as it runs in my family. Some people think I may have had some sort of traumatic experience in my childhood to make me this way. I assure them that this is not the case, but they insist.

Some people tell me it's just a phase that I'll grow out of. We'll see.

I have been accused of simply having a fear of members of the same sex. Or that I just need a good gay lover. But I have lots of friends who are the same sex as me, and I'm just not attracted to them. I tried liking them, but I just felt like I was lying to myself.

Coming out to my parents was pretty easy. They've always been quite liberal and progressive. They were a bit worried about me getting flak at school, but I told them I would be discreet and only talk about it with those I could trust.

Eventually, everyone started cluing in. They said I was flaunting it. Many people told me they were perfectly comfortable with it, but they just didn't want to see it. You know, just be who I am but keep quiet about it.

Still, it's kinda weird always having someone identify you according to your sexuality. You know, I am just like everyone else. They say I'm flaunting it, but they're the ones who are always putting such an emphasis on it.

What I don't get it is why everyone thinks we have some sort of agenda, that we want to seduce others into our lifestyle or something, yet everytime sexual lifestyles like mine appear in popular media, everyone makes a big deal.

Yes, I know the majority of child molesters are heterosexual. That doesn't mean we all are. Yes, heterosexuals should be allowed to teach children.

And then when everyone gets drunk, people start asking me all sorts of questions about what exactly we do when we have sex. The question I get asked the most (well, enough that I would remark on it) is how do two people who are so anatomically different can actually know how to please each other.

True, our divorce rate is spiralling and we don't seem too good at permanent relationships. And we are contributing to the overpopulation problem.

I was told to go to a therapist once. To be cured. But I ended up with a hetero therapist. Some of my former friends think it's her fault that I am the way I am. They told me to get aversion therapy, and I considered it, but then I heard it can cause memory problems, and it seemed like too much bother. I think that by this time, I was getting pretty comfortable with myself.

Having said all that, I think I could even handle it if my kids turned out to be hetero.

I tried changing from my right-hand to my left-hand and it worked. I fenced at foil competitions left-handed.

It's called being ambidextrous. Some people are able to use both hands equally.

I first became aware of my heterosexuality well before puberty. Sometimes I think I have always been this way, but lately there's been so much debate about choice that now I'm not so sure.

I don't really know what made me heterosexual. It could have been all that socialisation. It could have been genetics, as it runs in my family. Some people think I may have had some sort of traumatic experience in my childhood to make me this way. I assure them that this is not the case, but they insist.

Some people tell me it's just a phase that I'll grow out of. We'll see.

I have been accused of simply having a fear of members of the same sex. Or that I just need a good gay lover. But I have lots of friends who are the same sex as me, and I'm just not attracted to them. I tried liking them, but I just felt like I was lying to myself.

Coming out to my parents was pretty easy. They've always been quite liberal and progressive. They were a bit worried about me getting flak at school, but I told them I would be discreet and only talk about it with those I could trust.

Eventually, everyone started cluing in. They said I was flaunting it. Many people told me they were perfectly comfortable with it, but they just didn't want to see it. You know, just be who I am but keep quiet about it.

Still, it's kinda weird always having someone identify you according to your sexuality. You know, I am just like everyone else. They say I'm flaunting it, but they're the ones who are always putting such an emphasis on it.

What I don't get it is why everyone thinks we have some sort of agenda, that we want to seduce others into our lifestyle or something, yet everytime sexual lifestyles like mine appear in popular media, everyone makes a big deal.

Yes, I know the majority of child molesters are heterosexual. That doesn't mean we all are. Yes, heterosexuals should be allowed to teach children.

And then when everyone gets drunk, people start asking me all sorts of questions about what exactly we do when we have sex. The question I get asked the most (well, enough that I would remark on it) is how do two people who are so anatomically different can actually know how to please each other.

True, our divorce rate is spiralling and we don't seem too good at permanent relationships. And we are contributing to the overpopulation problem.

I was told to go to a therapist once. To be cured. But I ended up with a hetero therapist. Some of my former friends think it's her fault that I am the way I am. They told me to get aversion therapy, and I considered it, but then I heard it can cause memory problems, and it seemed like too much bother. I think that by this time, I was getting pretty comfortable with myself.

Having said all that, I think I could even handle it if my kids turned out to be hetero.
That was beautiful.

That was beautiful.

I read something very similar when I was thirteen or so. Now seemed like an ideal time to bring it out.

That was beautiful.

Agreed - I hope that it gives other heterosexual kids the courage to stand up for who they are and not be intimidated by the homosexual community.

It's called being ambidextrous. Some people are able to use both hands equally.

I know. I am saying I trained myself to; I am not that way naturally.

Can't I just orgasm in peace? :(

What, you mean you're going to "come quietly"?


I first became aware of my heterosexuality well before puberty. Sometimes I think I have always been this way, but lately there's been so much debate about choice that now I'm not so sure.

I don't really know what made me heterosexual. It could have been all that socialisation. It could have been genetics, as it runs in my family. Some people think I may have had some sort of traumatic experience in my childhood to make me this way. I assure them that this is not the case, but they insist.

Some people tell me it's just a phase that I'll grow out of. We'll see.

I have been accused of simply having a fear of members of the same sex. Or that I just need a good gay lover. But I have lots of friends who are the same sex as me, and I'm just not attracted to them. I tried liking them, but I just felt like I was lying to myself.

Coming out to my parents was pretty easy. They've always been quite liberal and progressive. They were a bit worried about me getting flak at school, but I told them I would be discreet and only talk about it with those I could trust.

Eventually, everyone started cluing in. They said I was flaunting it. Many people told me they were perfectly comfortable with it, but they just didn't want to see it. You know, just be who I am but keep quiet about it.

Still, it's kinda weird always having someone identify you according to your sexuality. You know, I am just like everyone else. They say I'm flaunting it, but they're the ones who are always putting such an emphasis on it.

What I don't get it is why everyone thinks we have some sort of agenda, that we want to seduce others into our lifestyle or something, yet everytime sexual lifestyles like mine appear in popular media, everyone makes a big deal.

Yes, I know the majority of child molesters are heterosexual. That doesn't mean we all are. Yes, heterosexuals should be allowed to teach children.

And then when everyone gets drunk, people start asking me all sorts of questions about what exactly we do when we have sex. The question I get asked the most (well, enough that I would remark on it) is how do two people who are so anatomically different can actually know how to please each other.

True, our divorce rate is spiralling and we don't seem too good at permanent relationships. And we are contributing to the overpopulation problem.

I was told to go to a therapist once. To be cured. But I ended up with a hetero therapist. Some of my former friends think it's her fault that I am the way I am. They told me to get aversion therapy, and I considered it, but then I heard it can cause memory problems, and it seemed like too much bother. I think that by this time, I was getting pretty comfortable with myself.

Having said all that, I think I could even handle it if my kids turned out to be hetero.

***STANDING OVATION!!!***

I first became aware of my heterosexuality well before puberty. Sometimes I think I have always been this way, but lately there's been so much debate about choice that now I'm not so sure.

I don't really know what made me heterosexual. It could have been all that socialisation. It could have been genetics, as it runs in my family. Some people think I may have had some sort of traumatic experience in my childhood to make me this way. I assure them that this is not the case, but they insist.

Some people tell me it's just a phase that I'll grow out of. We'll see.

I have been accused of simply having a fear of members of the same sex. Or that I just need a good gay lover. But I have lots of friends who are the same sex as me, and I'm just not attracted to them. I tried liking them, but I just felt like I was lying to myself.

Coming out to my parents was pretty easy. They've always been quite liberal and progressive. They were a bit worried about me getting flak at school, but I told them I would be discreet and only talk about it with those I could trust.

Eventually, everyone started cluing in. They said I was flaunting it. Many people told me they were perfectly comfortable with it, but they just didn't want to see it. You know, just be who I am but keep quiet about it.

Still, it's kinda weird always having someone identify you according to your sexuality. You know, I am just like everyone else. They say I'm flaunting it, but they're the ones who are always putting such an emphasis on it.

What I don't get it is why everyone thinks we have some sort of agenda, that we want to seduce others into our lifestyle or something, yet everytime sexual lifestyles like mine appear in popular media, everyone makes a big deal.

Yes, I know the majority of child molesters are heterosexual. That doesn't mean we all are. Yes, heterosexuals should be allowed to teach children.

And then when everyone gets drunk, people start asking me all sorts of questions about what exactly we do when we have sex. The question I get asked the most (well, enough that I would remark on it) is how do two people who are so anatomically different can actually know how to please each other.

True, our divorce rate is spiralling and we don't seem too good at permanent relationships. And we are contributing to the overpopulation problem.

I was told to go to a therapist once. To be cured. But I ended up with a hetero therapist. Some of my former friends think it's her fault that I am the way I am. They told me to get aversion therapy, and I considered it, but then I heard it can cause memory problems, and it seemed like too much bother. I think that by this time, I was getting pretty comfortable with myself.

Having said all that, I think I could even handle it if my kids turned out to be hetero.

That was lovely, I may keep it for future reference/use.

What, you mean you're going to "come quietly"?

Actually, sometimes I can be quite vocal. :)

This has inspired my pal to begin collecting personal stories from heterosexuals, stories of how straight men and women made the courageous choice to be not-queer.

Don't be silly, heterosexuality is not a choice - it's just a chronic disease that we aren't yet quite 100% successful in treating, sort of like cancer. In my ex-straight programmes and camps (Rancho Sphincter Delicioso at the Rimmer Grande) we have however met with encouraging remission rates of around 60%-70%. It is so sad that not all of them know there is help to get, and that's why my foundation FAGS (Fight Against Gay-deprived Abominations) has set up the toll free numbers 555-EEUWBREEDERSAREYUCKY, 555-INEEDSTOLOVECOCK, and 555-GIRLSWANNAMUNCHCARPET.

Ewww... It's everywhere!!!! :eek:

Y'know, I seriously considered putting "the sticky blessings of the Holy Penis" in my post...but then I thought, "Nah, someone else will make that joke immediately, anyway."

Good to know I was right. :D

Y'know, I seriously considered putting "the sticky blessings of the Holy Penis" in my post...but then I thought, "Nah, someone else will make that joke immediately, anyway."

Good to know I was right. :D

Sooo...wanna receive the sticky blessings of my holy...erm...nm.

I chose heterosexuality. I spent 8 miserable years in three failed marriages and several failed relationships. I discovered, over the period of my many failed attempts, that sex with men hurts. So really, I have to say heterosexuality was the Wrong Choice (tm) for me.

Perhaps you should have lectures about this in your sex ed classes as well, rather than telling people they have to choose as you would have them choose, even if it causes them physical pain.

I first discovered my heterosexuality on a friday night, midway through my tenth pint.

The following morning, I was ashamed at what I had done and was forced to repent my sins by pushing the woman under a bus before she could tell my parents.

I joke, of course....

..it was a train, not a bus.

Would this be a good place to link to Roy Zimmerman's song 'Ted Haggard is Completely Heterosexual (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HZmHC75FDqQ)'?

If you liked Tom Lehrer then you'll love this (if you've never even heard of Tom Lehrer then listen anyway...)

A friend of mine is a high school teacher. His school recently received some informational pamphlets from an anti-gay organization that wants to be permitted to come speak to the students during their sex ed classes, to tell them about how homosexuality is a choice--and a bad one!--and choosing to be queer will make your genitals rot off.

This has inspired my pal to begin collecting personal stories from heterosexuals, stories of how straight men and women made the courageous choice to be not-queer.

He feels this will be very helpful to the students. They'll be able to read real-life accounts of how heterosexuals made the Right Choice(tm) and rejected the sinful allure of homosexuality.

Unfortunately, I was unable to offer a story of my own, but I thought that NSG would be a great place to ask for other people's stories. It's obviously anonymous here, so please feel free to be totally honest!

You make a choice to NOT be heterosexual and be homo. You're not choosing to BE heterosexual...

I think it's biological, but not the point.

Questions for Heterosexuals
developed by Martin Rochlin, Ph.D., 1977

1. What do you think caused your heterosexuality?
2. When and how did you first decide you were a heterosexual?
3. Is it possible your heterosexuality is just a phase you may grow out of?
4. Is it possible your heterosexuality stems from a neurotic fear of others of the same sex?
5. Isn’t it possible that all you need is a good Gay lover?
6. Heterosexuals have histories of failures in Gay relationships. Do you think you may have turned to heterosexuality out of fear of rejection?
7. If you’ve never slept with a person of the same sex, how do you know you wouldn’t prefer that?
8. If heterosexuality is normal, why are a disproportionate number of mental patients heterosexual?
9. To whom have you disclosed your heterosexual tendencies? How did they react?
10. Your heterosexuality doesn’t offend me as long as you don’t try to force it on me. Why do you people feel compelled to seduce others into your sexual orientation?
11. If you choose to nurture children, would you want them to be heterosexual, knowing the problems they would face?
12. The great majority of child molesters are heterosexuals. Do you really consider it safe to expose your children to heterosexual teachers?
13. Why do you insist on being so obvious, and making a public spectacle of your heterosexuality? Can’t you just be what you are and keep it quiet?
14. How can you ever hope to become a whole person if you limit yourself to a compulsive, exclusive heterosexual object choice and remain unwilling to explore and develop your normal, natural, healthy, God-given homosexual potential?
15. Heterosexuals are noted for assigning themselves and each other to narrowly restricted, stereotyped sex-roles. Why do you cling to such unhealthy role-playing?
16. Why do heterosexuals place so much emphasis on sex?
17. With all the societal support marriage receives, the divorce rate is spiraling. Why are there so few stable relationships among heterosexuals?
18. How could the human race survive if everyone were heterosexual, considering the menace of overpopulation?
19. There seem to be very few happy heterosexuals. Techniques have been developed with which you might be able to change if you really want to. Have you considered aversion therapy?
20. Do heterosexuals hate and/or distrust others of their own sex? Is that what makes them heterosexual?

Actually, sometimes I can be quite vocal. :)

Now THAT's the LG I know and admire.

Sooo...wanna receive the sticky blessings of my holy...erm...nm.

Toto, I don't think you're in Vegas anymore. :D

I did it for over a year. But eventually I forced myself back being right-handed, yet ended-up bidexterous. Wait....

I think I'm ambisinistrous. I'm equally clumsy with both hands.

From everything I have heard (and I have quite a few female friends throughout high school and college), many women simply can choose, for the most part.
I second this. In my experience also, there are a lot more females than males who are bi, or just very flexible and alterable. There are bi men, too, of course, but they are rarer.

Bad People wants to tell you how to sex.
Good People lets you decide how to sex.

Bad People wants to tell you how to sex.
Good People lets you decide how to sex.

Great People lets you have sex.

Great People lets you have sex.

Great Peoples don't make you think you has to have permissions, unless you wants to sex with them.

A friend of mine is a high school teacher. His school recently received some informational pamphlets from an anti-gay organization that wants to be permitted to come speak to the students during their sex ed classes, to tell them about how homosexuality is a choice--and a bad one!--and choosing to be queer will make your genitals rot off.

This has inspired my pal to begin collecting personal stories from heterosexuals, stories of how straight men and women made the courageous choice to be not-queer.

He feels this will be very helpful to the students. They'll be able to read real-life accounts of how heterosexuals made the Right Choice(tm) and rejected the sinful allure of homosexuality.

Unfortunately, I was unable to offer a story of my own, but I thought that NSG would be a great place to ask for other people's stories. It's obviously anonymous here, so please feel free to be totally honest!

Your friend is doing the wrong thing, full stop. I don't even know where to begin!

The topic of sexual preference, if discussed in school at all, should be approached without bias. The science & mechanics of human body, sex & reproduction, sexual education and information on safe sex should be the primary concerns of sexual education classes. Then, if they are of an age where they can understand such a topic, the discussion should revolve yet again around sexual education & safe sex! Obviously, kids shouldn't be taught that you SHOULD be homosexual, and likewise they shouldn't be taught that you SHOULDN'T. Convincing kids that homosexuality is a sin, and trying to change them just results in confusion, discrimination and hatred.

Y'know...I can't even make a joke about this. I found women more attractive to me than men...and that's that. Not that men aren't attractive...just not not me.

I hope your friend's school isn't seriously considering inviting these chumps to speak in their health classes.

I feel the same way. I just am sexually attracted to men, but that doesn't make me deny the fact that women can be sexy too. I don't consider myself bisexual, but I have had encounters with females & experimented, and I am not ashamed of it. To me, your sexual preference is partially defined by who you could fall both in love and in lust with, and I could only fall in love & lust with a man.

I also hope he won't.

most football players have learned to score with either feet.

That doesn't mean that you can make a gay man straight.

being bi isn't a choice because bi doesn't exist. Just admit it, you don't care either way, you just want the sex.
*snip*

I think there are people out there that are actually 100% bisexual. I think that some people just are sexually and emotionally attracted to both men and women, and I think that that's the way they are naturally.

However, I think there's some people who say they're "bi" because they like to get drunk and kiss girls in clubs, but to me that's just experimentation, not bisexuality.

Questions for Heterosexuals
developed by Martin Rochlin, Ph.D., 1977
1. What do you think caused your heterosexuality?Combination of natural disposition, cultural influence and social circumstances.

2. When and how did you first decide you were a heterosexual?Noticing one my teachers having a titillating effect on me.

3. Is it possible your heterosexuality is just a phase you may grow out of?It doesn't feel like it right now. I'm along for the ride, wherever it goes.

4. Is it possible your heterosexuality stems from a neurotic fear of others of the same sex?No. That neurotic fear is based heartily on all members of my species.

5. Isn’t it possible that all you need is a good Gay lover?ALL i need? No.

6. Heterosexuals have histories of failures in Gay relationships. Do you think you may have turned to heterosexuality out of fear of rejection?Heehee. Can't say that's it. I've been propositioned quite a bit by both sexes.

7. If you’ve never slept with a person of the same sex, how do you know you wouldn’t prefer that?I'm only inspired sexually by the opposite sex. At least, as far as my involvement in an act. I'm not particularly inspired to doink another dude.

8. If heterosexuality is normal, why are a disproportionate number of mental patients heterosexual?See question #4.

9. To whom have you disclosed your heterosexual tendencies? How did they react?Certain partners. Or at least, i put on a believable front, they were receptive.

10. Your heterosexuality doesn’t offend me as long as you don’t try to force it on me. Why do you people feel compelled to seduce others into your sexual orientation?Like i said, i'm along for the ride.

11. If you choose to nurture children, would you want them to be heterosexual, knowing the problems they would face?I'm intending to intrude very little in the sexual orientation of my children.

12. The great majority of child molesters are heterosexuals. Do you really consider it safe to expose your children to heterosexual teachers?So long as sexuality isn't what they're being "taught", i suspect there won't be much of a problem.

13. Why do you insist on being so obvious, and making a public spectacle of your heterosexuality? Can’t you just be what you are and keep it quiet?Any number of posters and people who deal with me in public aren't entirely sure as it is.

14. How can you ever hope to become a whole person if you limit yourself to a compulsive, exclusive heterosexual object choice and remain unwilling to explore and develop your normal, natural, healthy, God-given homosexual potential?Plenty of opportunities. No fruition. :)

15. Heterosexuals are noted for assigning themselves and each other to narrowly restricted, stereotyped sex-roles. Why do you cling to such unhealthy role-playing?As far as role-playing goes, again, i say i'm along for the ride.

16. Why do heterosexuals place so much emphasis on sex?Could be the word. *nods emphatically*

17. With all the societal support marriage receives, the divorce rate is spiraling. Why are there so few stable relationships among heterosexuals?Ode et amo?

18. How could the human race survive if everyone were heterosexual, considering the menace of overpopulation?Vote republican. That thins 'em out.

19. There seem to be very few happy heterosexuals. Techniques have been developed with which you might be able to change if you really want to. Have you considered aversion therapy?Not just to sexuality! I think there's an ad on one of the GTA games ...
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20. Do heterosexuals hate and/or distrust others of their own sex? Is that what makes them heterosexual?Understandably, there's quite a few ways of dealing with that particular type of competition.

I chose heterosexuality after about the fourth or sixth or tenth time I got it on with another girl (I can't remember) and realized women do nothing for me. Like... nothing. It's almost uncanny, the total lack of any kind of physiological sex response towards other women, no matter how hot they may be or what they may be doing to or with me. Nada. Zip. Nuthin.

Guys, on the other hand -- a look, a smile, a little this and that, and Bingo! We're good to go. Don't waste my time calculating what number date we're up to, just get your tight little ass over here, baby. Mama's hungry. ;)

I first made this realization around the end of high school, and I often have wondered whether it was the right choice (I have a lot of lesbian friends who keep pestering me about it, and, frankly, men tend to be less fun when they talk :p ) but really nothing has ever changed. I like to fuck with guys, and I'm not ashamed of it. :)

We're good to go. Don't waste my time calculating what number date we're up to, just get your tight little ass over here, baby. Mama's hungry. ;)

:fluffle:
Damn that 8 lines sig rule!!!!!!!!! *stomps feet*

Cut off both of your hands and learn how to use your feet.

This reminds me of a porn link Ruffy gave me.

A friend of mine is a high school teacher. His school recently received some informational pamphlets from an anti-gay organization that wants to be permitted to come speak to the students during their sex ed classes, to tell them about how homosexuality is a choice--and a bad one!--and choosing to be queer will make your genitals rot off.

This has inspired my pal to begin collecting personal stories from heterosexuals, stories of how straight men and women made the courageous choice to be not-queer.

He feels this will be very helpful to the students. They'll be able to read real-life accounts of how heterosexuals made the Right Choice(tm) and rejected the sinful allure of homosexuality.

Unfortunately, I was unable to offer a story of my own, but I thought that NSG would be a great place to ask for other people's stories. It's obviously anonymous here, so please feel free to be totally honest!

Well let's just say one time I was in my grandma's farm naked, and I accidentally sat on a cucumber, and I did not like it.

If you don't believe that then, I don't know. I just saw women and became "excited" if you know what I mean.

Well let's just say one time I was in my grandma's farm naked, and I accidentally sat on a cucumber, and I did not like it.

8 goddamn lines!!!
*sobs*

Misanthropes are so much fun. Don't you just want to give them a big hug?
From the front, or behind?

Can't I just orgasm in peace? :(

Peace isn't an easy lay. But if we get it all liquored up you can have sloppy fourths, sevenths, thirteenths, and twenty-ninths.

Vegas is actually not that interesting. Television and movies make it out to be far more than it is.Jorja Fox? :(

Questions for Heterosexuals
developed by Martin Rochlin, Ph.D., 1977

1. What do you think caused your heterosexuality?
Breast...on women....yes.

2. When and how did you first decide you were a heterosexual?

I didn't decide, my penis did.

3. Is it possible your heterosexuality is just a phase you may grow out of?

I'm 23 years old and I'm still Hetro, so no.

4. Is it possible your heterosexuality stems from a neurotic fear of others of the same sex?

I've been in Community Showers with naked men, trust me it's not that.

5. Isn’t it possible that all you need is a good Gay lover?

Must I recite the Cucumber story again?!

6. Heterosexuals have histories of failures in Gay relationships. Do you think you may have turned to heterosexuality out of fear of rejection?

Nope.

7. If you’ve never slept with a person of the same sex, how do you know you wouldn’t prefer that?

Again, Cucumber story!

8. If heterosexuality is normal, why are a disproportionate number of mental patients heterosexual?

Oh for several reasons, several several reasons....

9. To whom have you disclosed your heterosexual tendencies? How did they react?

Everyone. The women were amazed by my body as I streaked in public!

10. Your heterosexuality doesn’t offend me as long as you don’t try to force it on me. Why do you people feel compelled to seduce others into your sexual orientation?

Because Misery loves Company?

11. If you choose to nurture children, would you want them to be heterosexual, knowing the problems they would face?

Don't care what they do in the privacy of their bedrooms.

12. The great majority of child molesters are heterosexuals. Do you really consider it safe to expose your children to heterosexual teachers?

I wouldn't mind exposing them to homosexual teachers, at least they'll have style! :D

13. Why do you insist on being so obvious, and making a public spectacle of your heterosexuality? Can’t you just be what you are and keep it quiet?

Because that's just the kind of guy I am! *takes off clothes and streaks*

14. How can you ever hope to become a whole person if you limit yourself to a compulsive, exclusive heterosexual object choice and remain unwilling to explore and develop your normal, natural, healthy, God-given homosexual potential?

Dammit, I've told my undergrad Counselor this, and I'll tell you this! I do not want to be a well rounded, "whole" person dammit!

15. Heterosexuals are noted for assigning themselves and each other to narrowly restricted, stereotyped sex-roles. Why do you cling to such unhealthy role-playing?

Because we like the fluffles?

16. Why do heterosexuals place so much emphasis on sex?

Because it's a Heterosexual place?

17. With all the societal support marriage receives, the divorce rate is spiraling. Why are there so few stable relationships among heterosexuals?

Because people often marry for the wrong reason.

18. How could the human race survive if everyone were heterosexual, considering the menace of overpopulation?

That's why some of us has had Vasectomy!

19. There seem to be very few happy heterosexuals. Techniques have been developed with which you might be able to change if you really want to. Have you considered aversion therapy?

Nah, I like the female figure.

20. Do heterosexuals hate and/or distrust others of their own sex? Is that what makes them heterosexual?

Nah, what makes them Heterosexual is that they like the penis or vagina and they have the opposite.

I chose heterosexuality after about the fourth or sixth or tenth time I got it on with another girl (I can't remember) and realized women do nothing for me. Like... nothing. It's almost uncanny, the total lack of any kind of physiological sex response towards other women, no matter how hot they may be or what they may be doing to or with me. Nada. Zip. Nuthin.

Guys, on the other hand -- a look, a smile, a little this and that, and Bingo! We're good to go. Don't waste my time calculating what number date we're up to, just get your tight little ass over here, baby. Mama's hungry. ;)

I first made this realization around the end of high school, and I often have wondered whether it was the right choice (I have a lot of lesbian friends who keep pestering me about it, and, frankly, men tend to be less fun when they talk :p ) but really nothing has ever changed. I like to fuck with guys, and I'm not ashamed of it. :)
:)

See, this is why I like you. You're a strong woman who constantly proves that the idea of gender roles and women being weaker or what have is complete and utter nonsense.

Jorja Fox? :(

What? Or is the question Who?

What? Or is the question Who?

CSI
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Questions for Heterosexuals
developed by Martin Rochlin, Ph.D., 1977I know I've seen this around before, but I'll give it a try anyway.

1. What do you think caused your heterosexuality?
No clue.
2. When and how did you first decide you were a heterosexual?
It happened so long ago I can't remember.
3. Is it possible your heterosexuality is just a phase you may grow out of?
Maybe, but I doubt it.
4. Is it possible your heterosexuality stems from a neurotic fear of others of the same sex?
This is indeed possible.
5. Isn’t it possible that all you need is a good Gay lover?
No. I've had offers and after seriously considering them, I turned them down.
6. Heterosexuals have histories of failures in Gay relationships. Do you think you may have turned to heterosexuality out of fear of rejection?
I get rejected by heterosexual women occasionally and have come to grips that you can't have every girl you see, so no.
7. If you’ve never slept with a person of the same sex, how do you know you wouldn’t prefer that?
I enjoy seeing women naked, but I dislike seeing men naked. Since sex with other men would involve seeing the latter, it would reduce the enjoyment I receive considerably.
8. If heterosexuality is normal, why are a disproportionate number of mental patients heterosexual?
Quite possibly because the two things aren't related.
9. To whom have you disclosed your heterosexual tendencies? How did they react?
My family knows, as do women I did or tried to sleep with. They didn't really treat me any differently than before.
10. Your heterosexuality doesn’t offend me as long as you don’t try to force it on me. Why do you people feel compelled to seduce others into your sexual orientation?
I don't try to seduce others to my orientation when I find out that they aren't heterosexual.
11. If you choose to nurture children, would you want them to be heterosexual, knowing the problems they would face?
Yes, since this would be the most likely course to biological grandchildren. However, I would not try to force them to be different.
12. The great majority of child molesters are heterosexuals. Do you really consider it safe to expose your children to heterosexual teachers?
Yes.
13. Why do you insist on being so obvious, and making a public spectacle of your heterosexuality? Can’t you just be what you are and keep it quiet?
I've hidden heterosexual relationships before.
14. How can you ever hope to become a whole person if you limit yourself to a compulsive, exclusive heterosexual object choice and remain unwilling to explore and develop your normal, natural, healthy, God-given homosexual potential?
I don't feel like I miss out. It's similar to not eating cheese. I don't enjoy it, so I'm not missing out.
15. Heterosexuals are noted for assigning themselves and each other to narrowly restricted, stereotyped sex-roles. Why do you cling to such unhealthy role-playing?
Because it's kinky and makes the sex more fun :D
16. Why do heterosexuals place so much emphasis on sex?
Because it's fun.
17. With all the societal support marriage receives, the divorce rate is spiraling. Why are there so few stable relationships among heterosexuals?
People getting married to early and for the wrong reasons, I suppose.
18. How could the human race survive if everyone were heterosexual, considering the menace of overpopulation?
War.
19. There seem to be very few happy heterosexuals. Techniques have been developed with which you might be able to change if you really want to. Have you considered aversion therapy?
No.
20. Do heterosexuals hate and/or distrust others of their own sex? Is that what makes them heterosexual?
We have to compete with eachother, which breeds distrust and hatred. I doubt that this has made us hetero, but instead results from our heterosexuality.

:fluffle:
Damn that 8 lines sig rule!!!!!!!!! *stomps feet*

8 goddamn lines!!!
*sobs*
Time to do some editing and updating, Straughn. ;)

:)

See, this is why I like you. You're a strong woman who constantly proves that the idea of gender roles and women being weaker or what have is complete and utter nonsense.
Thanks. *blushes all bashful like and giggles in a silly little way*

I wish more people would just cut the crap and start living their lives already. Those frigging "gender roles" -- you'd be shocked at how difficult they make it to actually have a relationship.

Questions for Heterosexuals
developed by Martin Rochlin, Ph.D., 1977
OK, I'll take a stab at it. :)

1. What do you think caused your heterosexuality?
I have no idea and don't much care.
2. When and how did you first decide you were a heterosexual?
Late teens, when I realized that making out with girls was boring to me.
3. Is it possible your heterosexuality is just a phase you may grow out of?
Well, if it is a phase, it is a mightily persistent one. However, it will probably pass. I'm sure I will stop being heterosexual when I'm dead, which is kind of the next big phase of life transformation I have coming up.
4. Is it possible your heterosexuality stems from a neurotic fear of others of the same sex?
*thinks about it* No.
5. Isn’t it possible that all you need is a good Gay lover?
Well, the operative contingent in that being the word "good," who knows? But I've never bought into that "you gotta kiss a lot of frogs to find a prince/ess" crap. If the gay community wanted me, they should have sent their best the first 5 - 10 times I gave them a chance.
6. Heterosexuals have histories of failures in Gay relationships. Do you think you may have turned to heterosexuality out of fear of rejection?
*thinks about it again* No.
7. If you’ve never slept with a person of the same sex, how do you know you wouldn’t prefer that?
N/A
8. If heterosexuality is normal, why are a disproportionate number of mental patients heterosexual?
Because they are alive here, now, in the modern world, which we all know is a soul-sucking nightmare without hope or respite. If Gays are not crazy, then they are not paying attention.
9. To whom have you disclosed your heterosexual tendencies? How did they react?
To every guy I've ever had sex with. They reacted by reciprocating.

And to every homosexual woman who came on to me after I "came out" as straight. They reacted with about 5 seconds of mild disappointment and then carried on with their daily activities.
10. Your heterosexuality doesn’t offend me as long as you don’t try to force it on me. Why do you people feel compelled to seduce others into your sexual orientation?
Honey, it's not my fault if you find me so mind-blowingly hot that you lose the ability think, talk or walk straight every time you see me walking down the street. Just remind yourself that I am not aware of your miniscule existence, and use that as a basis for exercising your own self discipline.
11. If you choose to nurture children, would you want them to be heterosexual, knowing the problems they would face?
I would want them to be whatever they are. My job as a parent is to try to help them be happy with what they are.
12. The great majority of child molesters are heterosexuals. Do you really consider it safe to expose your children to heterosexual teachers?
You will have to back up that assertion with some facts before I will accept it as a topic of conversation.
13. Why do you insist on being so obvious, and making a public spectacle of your heterosexuality? Can’t you just be what you are and keep it quiet?
See answer to Question 10, above.
14. How can you ever hope to become a whole person if you limit yourself to a compulsive, exclusive heterosexual object choice and remain unwilling to explore and develop your normal, natural, healthy, God-given homosexual potential?
How can you ever hope to become a whole person if you keep your head full of such undiluted bullshit and remain unwilling to explore and develop your normal, natural, healthy, possibly deity-given potential to use your brain for thinking, rather than just ballast?
15. Heterosexuals are noted for assigning themselves and each other to narrowly restricted, stereotyped sex-roles. Why do you cling to such unhealthy role-playing?
I'm not into role-playing. The costumes are often uncomfortable and hard to get in and out of.
16. Why do heterosexuals place so much emphasis on sex?
Because talking about Britney Spears does get boring after a while, and what other topic is there?
17. With all the societal support marriage receives, the divorce rate is spiraling. Why are there so few stable relationships among heterosexuals?
If the divorce rate is spiraling, then obviously those "societal supports" are not very effective. Maybe it's society's fault.
18. How could the human race survive if everyone were heterosexual, considering the menace of overpopulation?
Good question. Thank goodness there are Gays, eh? :)

(NOTE: Gravlen, I would love to see the original version of this question.)
19. There seem to be very few happy heterosexuals. Techniques have been developed with which you might be able to change if you really want to. Have you considered aversion therapy?
I thought this was aversion therapy. It's not making me feel randy.
20. Do heterosexuals hate and/or distrust others of their own sex? Is that what makes them heterosexual?
No, it's what makes them human, and it's not limited to members of their own sex.

I wish more people would just cut the crap and start living their lives already. Those frigging "gender roles" -- you'd be shocked at how difficult they make it to actually have a relationship.

I wouldn't be shocked in the slightest. It's not uncommon for me to have to encourage the women I date to just say what they want instead of being passive receivers all the time. The resulting lack of communication due to a lack of assertiveness has led to the demise of more than one relationship.

I also encourage them to learn how to defend themselves from big hairy strong men like me (like me except for that part about actually respecting women, anyway). Fortunately, my last girlfriend took me up on the offer to learn self-defense, so now she knows how to defeat a variety of grabs and defend from knife attacks while in a variety of positions.

Now that's empowerment. :)

Questions for Heterosexuals
developed by Martin Rochlin, Ph.D., 1977

1. What do you think caused your heterosexuality?

Evolution's desire to spread my genes.

2. When and how did you first decide you were a heterosexual?

I decided?


3. Is it possible your heterosexuality is just a phase you may grow out of?

No.

4. Is it possible your heterosexuality stems from a neurotic fear of others of the same sex?

More like a neurotic hate. Then again, I hate both sexes with vehemence.

5. Isn’t it possible that all you need is a good Gay lover?

Hmm. No. I do not think there is such a thing a "good lover", gay or not.

6. Heterosexuals have histories of failures in Gay relationships. Do you think you may have turned to heterosexuality out of fear of rejection?

No. I do not care about rejection.

7. If you’ve never slept with a person of the same sex, how do you know you wouldn’t prefer that?

I have not slept with a person of the opposite sex either. I can not see anything appealing about the male form. I suppose they can look nice, but so can Corinthian columns, and I do not "sleep with" those.

8. If heterosexuality is normal, why are a disproportionate number of mental patients heterosexual?

It is actually proper proportion for the amount of the population they occupy.

9. To whom have you disclosed your heterosexual tendencies? How did they react?

No one.

10. Your heterosexuality doesn’t offend me as long as you don’t try to force it on me. Why do you people feel compelled to seduce others into your sexual orientation?

I do not.

11. If you choose to nurture children, would you want them to be heterosexual, knowing the problems they would face?

I could not really care less. The human race is a bunch of pigs.

12. The great majority of child molesters are heterosexuals. Do you really consider it safe to expose your children to heterosexual teachers?

See answer to number 8.

13. Why do you insist on being so obvious, and making a public spectacle of your heterosexuality? Can’t you just be what you are and keep it quiet?

I am not obvious; I do not make a spectacle.

14. How can you ever hope to become a whole person if you limit yourself to a compulsive, exclusive heterosexual object choice and remain unwilling to explore and develop your normal, natural, healthy, God-given homosexual potential?

Define "whole person". Malaria is also normal, natural, about as healthy, and just as God-given.

15. Heterosexuals are noted for assigning themselves and each other to narrowly restricted, stereotyped sex-roles. Why do you cling to such unhealthy role-playing?

I do not.

16. Why do heterosexuals place so much emphasis on sex?

I do not. I cannot answer for the rest.

17. With all the societal support marriage receives, the divorce rate is spiraling. Why are there so few stable relationships among heterosexuals?

Because they marry for looks.

18. How could the human race survive if everyone were heterosexual, considering the menace of overpopulation?

That is not how it works.

19. There seem to be very few happy heterosexuals. Techniques have been developed with which you might be able to change if you really want to. Have you considered aversion therapy?

If I wanted to be happy I would get drunk, not visit some near-sighted little quack.

20. Do heterosexuals hate and/or distrust others of their own sex? Is that what makes them heterosexual?

Could this not have been combined with question number 4?

i believe that people should go with what they want to and stop worrying so much of what other people think

i believe that people choose what they want to be. whether they are heterosexual or homosexual. sometimes the heart and body goes with what it wants best, we just go with the feeling. people do what they believe makes them more comfortable. i also believe that if you want it, go get it and stop worrying so much of what other people think. thats whats wrong with the world today, people thinking too much of what other people think, it makes everyone so friggin paranoid

I wouldn't be shocked in the slightest. It's not uncommon for me to have to encourage the women I date to just say what they want instead of being passive receivers all the time. The resulting lack of communication due to a lack of assertiveness has led to the demise of more than one relationship.

I also encourage them to learn how to defend themselves from big hairy strong men like me (like me except for that part about actually respecting women, anyway). Fortunately, my last girlfriend took me up on the offer to learn self-defense, so now she knows how to defeat a variety of grabs and defend from knife attacks while in a variety of positions.

Now that's empowerment. :)
I remember one "gender roles" comedic moment when I started dating this guy. And the sex was great. I would have been happy to keep him as a lover for a good long time. But then, as he started to feel that a real relationship might develop, he started nagging and harassing me about -- and I'm not making this up; I really mean it -- how I was holding back emotionally and he just wanted me to relax around him enough to let out my true nurturing self which he knew was in there somewhere and which, according to him, would allow me finally to express my affection for him by doing things like cooking dinner and sewing buttons onto his shirts.

When he started that shit, we had been dating for a total of... brace yourself... about 20 days.

Guess how many days our relationship continued after I realized he wasn't kidding?

I remember one "gender roles" comedic moment when I started dating this guy. And the sex was great. I would have been happy to keep him as a lover for a good long time. But then, as he started to feel that a real relationship might develop, he started nagging and harassing me about -- and I'm not making this up; I really mean it -- how I was holding back emotionally and he just wanted me to relax around him enough to let out my true nurturing self which he knew was in there somewhere and which, according to him, would allow me finally to express my affection for him by doing things like cooking dinner and sewing buttons onto his shirts.

When he started that shit, we had been dating for a total of... brace yourself... about 20 days.

Guess how many days our relationship continued after I realized he wasn't kidding?

Dayum. You couldn't pay me enough to say something like that to a woman. *shakes head sadly*

I can't see it lasting more than several minutes, much less days.

in fact, I can see you inflicting bodily harm as your "fare thee well" present. I know alot of people that would if someone pulled that on them.

I would've left him handcuffed to the bed and then asked his mom over for lunch at his place.

But I'm in a bit of a mood.

I remember one "gender roles" comedic moment when I started dating this guy. And the sex was great. I would have been happy to keep him as a lover for a good long time. But then, as he started to feel that a real relationship might develop, he started nagging and harassing me about -- and I'm not making this up; I really mean it -- how I was holding back emotionally and he just wanted me to relax around him enough to let out my true nurturing self which he knew was in there somewhere and which, according to him, would allow me finally to express my affection for him by doing things like cooking dinner and sewing buttons onto his shirts.

When he started that shit, we had been dating for a total of... brace yourself... about 20 days.

Guess how many days our relationship continued after I realized he wasn't kidding?


To make me a sandwich and hem my pants shows me that you care. Now let out those womanly instincts and get in the kitchen! Prove to me that you are an emotionally secure woman of the 50s.

I remember one "gender roles" comedic moment when I started dating this guy. And the sex was great. I would have been happy to keep him as a lover for a good long time. But then, as he started to feel that a real relationship might develop, he started nagging and harassing me about -- and I'm not making this up; I really mean it -- how I was holding back emotionally and he just wanted me to relax around him enough to let out my true nurturing self which he knew was in there somewhere and which, according to him, would allow me finally to express my affection for him by doing things like cooking dinner and sewing buttons onto his shirts.

When he started that shit, we had been dating for a total of... brace yourself... about 20 days.

Guess how many days our relationship continued after I realized he wasn't kidding?
I can't see it lasting more than several minutes, much less days.

in fact, I can see you inflicting bodily harm as your "fare thee well" present. I know alot of people that would if someone pulled that on them.

I remember one "gender roles" comedic moment when I started dating this guy. And the sex was great. I would have been happy to keep him as a lover for a good long time. But then, as he started to feel that a real relationship might develop, he started nagging and harassing me about -- and I'm not making this up; I really mean it -- how I was holding back emotionally and he just wanted me to relax around him enough to let out my true nurturing self which he knew was in there somewhere and which, according to him, would allow me finally to express my affection for him by doing things like cooking dinner and sewing buttons onto his shirts.

When he started that shit, we had been dating for a total of... brace yourself... about 20 days.

Guess how many days our relationship continued after I realized he wasn't kidding?
The disadvantage of dating somebody of the same sex is that you can't claim their gender naturally requires them to do your chores for you.

One has to wonder: What then do you resort to to get them to do your chores? :p
I tried telling my girlfriend that her shapely, feminine hands were made for ironing my shirts. As it turns out, she agreed with me, it's just that we differed when it came to whether I should remove my shirts before she ironed them.

One has to wonder: What then do you resort to to get them to do your chores? :p

Bartering chore responsibilities for sex games. *nod*

The disadvantage of dating somebody of the same sex is that you can't claim their gender naturally requires them to do your chores for you.

One has to wonder: What then do you resort to to get them to do your chores? :p

I think people ought to be careful about assuming homosexuality to be a choice. I don't like it when things I can't help are assumed to be choices on my part, and if gay people aren't gay through choice, I don't think they'd like it either. But when it really comes right down to it, what the hell is the big deal? So people are attracted to their own sex... aside from the biblical condemnation of those attractions (and come on, why would people act like an ancient book with talking snakes in it is the superior authority on moral issues?) what harm does it do that being attracted to the opposite sex doesn't? Really, people talk about how homosexuals are more inclined to resort to anal sex, but straights can do that too, and some of them rap about it. Why don't we see religious people going after those who rap about anal sex?

Dayum. You couldn't pay me enough to say something like that to a woman. *shakes head sadly*

You could pay me. Although, I would give her half the money after I got it.

A friend of mine is a high school teacher. His school recently received some informational pamphlets from an anti-gay organization that wants to be permitted to come speak to the students during their sex ed classes, to tell them about how homosexuality is a choice--and a bad one!--and choosing to be queer will make your genitals rot off.

This has inspired my pal to begin collecting personal stories from heterosexuals, stories of how straight men and women made the courageous choice to be not-queer.

He feels this will be very helpful to the students. They'll be able to read real-life accounts of how heterosexuals made the Right Choice(tm) and rejected the sinful allure of homosexuality.

Unfortunately, I was unable to offer a story of my own, but I thought that NSG would be a great place to ask for other people's stories. It's obviously anonymous here, so please feel free to be totally honest!

I never chose homosexuality. I am what I am. I've had these feelings since 2nd grade, and might I add that the whole so-called "Right Choice" notion is EXTREMELY offensive. They should not have the right to come into our schools and denigrate our gay youth.

I never chose homosexuality. I am what I am. I've had these feelings since 2nd grade, and might I add that the whole so-called "Right Choice" notion is EXTREMELY offensive. They should not have the right to come into our schools and denigrate our gay youth.

2nd grade? You must have had an early puberty.

Not necessarily. I had non-sexual (but physical and emotional) attractions to girls when I was in 2nd grade, and my puberty came at a very normal age.

Strange. I was always repulsed by women (and men). I did not think there was such a thing as "attraction" without puberty.

2nd grade? You must have an early puberty.

Not necessarily. I had non-sexual (but physical and emotional) attractions to girls when I was in 2nd grade, and my puberty came at a very normal age.

Good question. Thank goodness there are Gays, eh? :)

(NOTE: Gravlen, I would love to see the original version of this question.)
I would think that it's simply
How could the human race survive if everyone were homosexual, considering the lack of propagation it would entail
or sum'tin :p

I remember one "gender roles" comedic moment when I started dating this guy. And the sex was great. I would have been happy to keep him as a lover for a good long time. But then, as he started to feel that a real relationship might develop, he started nagging and harassing me about -- and I'm not making this up; I really mean it -- how I was holding back emotionally and he just wanted me to relax around him enough to let out my true nurturing self which he knew was in there somewhere and which, according to him, would allow me finally to express my affection for him by doing things like cooking dinner and sewing buttons onto his shirts.

When he started that shit, we had been dating for a total of... brace yourself... about 20 days.

Guess how many days our relationship continued after I realized he wasn't kidding?
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I can't see it lasting more than several minutes, much less days.

in fact, I can see you inflicting bodily harm as your "fare thee well" present. I know alot of people that would if someone pulled that on them.
Nah, that was the other boyfriend, the one I had been in a stormy relationship with for two full years before he finally let it slip that the reason he kept picking fights with me about politics and such-like was that he couldn't stand the idea of his girlfriend arguing with him, and he was trying to break me down to the point of just saying "Yes, dear" to him.

You may laugh now.

Wait, another detail -- he said this to me while I actually was cooking dinner for him, which meant he said it while I was holding a knife. I said, "Get out of my house," and he left that apartment so fast, he almost left a him-shaped hole in the door, and I never saw or spoke to him again.

You may recommence laughing.

0?
Yes! Kat is the winner. It was zero days.

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Ah, nostalgia. Sometimes I think I should try women again. On the other hand, most of the women I've met are just as annoying.

I did not chose to be heterosexual. My penis made that choice for me.

Nah, that was the other boyfriend, the one I had been in a stormy relationship with for two full years before he finally let it slip that the reason he kept picking fights with me about politics and such-like was that he couldn't stand the idea of his girlfriend arguing with him, and he was trying to break me down to the point of just saying "Yes, dear" to him.

You may laugh now.

Wait, another detail -- he said this to me while I actually was cooking dinner for him, which meant he said it while I was holding a knife. I said, "Get out of my house," and he left that apartment so fast, he almost left a him-shaped hole in the door, and I never saw or spoke to him again.

You may recommence laughing.

Here's the thing about morning coffee:

It's the nectar of life itself. Without morning coffee, there would be no productivity. I would remain in a shapeless puddle on the floor all day long.

But morning coffee is also hot. When snorted out through one's nose--say, as the result of reading something particularly amusing whilst one is sipping said coffee--the morning coffee ceases to be the nectar of life, and becomes a caffeinated lava flow which leave no mucus membrane unscathed.


Ah, nostalgia. Sometimes I think I should try women again. On the other hand, most of the women I've met are just as annoying.
My personality is such that I'd rather deal with a sexist guy who thinks I oughta submit because I'm female, as opposed to putting up with a girl who thinks she ought to submit because she's female. I once had a crush on a girl who turned out to think that even gay relationships need to have a "woman" and a "man," with the woman obviously subservient, and I got out of there fast enough to leave a me-shaped hole in the door, too.

I did not chose to be heterosexual. My penis made that choice for me.
Yes, but what caused it to make that choice? Please ask your penis to answer the Questions for Heterosexuals, earlier in the post, if it will. I'm curious. :)

Yes, but what caused it to make that choice? Please ask your penis to answer the Questions for Heterosexuals, earlier in the post, if it will. I'm curious. :)
Dirty hetero...

Here's the thing about morning coffee:

It's the nectar of life itself. Without morning coffee, there would be no productivity. I would remain in a shapeless puddle on the floor all day long.

But morning coffee is also hot. When snorted out through one's nose--say, as the result of reading something particularly amusing whilst one is sipping said coffee--the morning coffee ceases to be the nectar of life, and becomes a caffeinated lava flow which leave no mucus membrane unscathed.

Oop. Sorry. :eek: :)


My personality is such that I'd rather deal with a sexist guy who thinks I oughta submit because I'm female, as opposed to putting up with a girl who thinks she ought to submit because she's female. I once had a crush on a girl who turned out to think that even gay relationships need to have a "woman" and a "man," with the woman obviously subservient, and I got out of there fast enough to leave a me-shaped hole in the door, too.
Oy gevalt! Yep, yep, I guess "gender roles" issues are not sexuality-specific, which is kind of ironic and kind of to-be-expected, when you think about it.

Oy gevalt! Yep, yep, I guess "gender roles" issues are not sexuality-specific, which is kind of ironic and kind of to-be-expected, when you think about it.
It really comes down to the fact that some people require rigid hierarchies and some people don't.

Some people need there to be a Leader and a Follower. They need to have clearly-delineated roles that each person fulfills. They really really like having simple identifying characteristics which immediately tell you about the status of a particular individual. (I.e. "That person is male, therefore he is Leader. That person is female, therefore she is Follower.")

Myself, I don't need there to be a hierarchy in all my relationships. I also don't need to always have the same role in every situation. Sometimes I'm a good leader for a particular context, and sometimes I'm not.

I also don't think it's a good plan to use irrelevant characteristics to decide one's hierarchy. Why should biological sex determine who cleans the house? Unless you plan to hold the mop with your genitals, I don't see how that could possibly matter.

I also don't think it's a good plan to use irrelevant characteristics to decide one's hierarchy. Why should biological sex determine who cleans the house? Unless you plan to hold the mop with your genitals, I don't see how that could possibly matter.

Comments like the bolded make me very glad I do not drink coffee.

Comments like the bolded make me very glad I do not drink coffee.
Comments like Bottle's make me wish I didn't drink coffee.

Bottle, you very nearly got your revenge for the coffee snort with that one. :D

It's interesting that it's posed as a "choice" since that would require that all people be inherently both homosexual AND heterosexual, which, of course, is true. Conformity is garbage tho, do what you need for your life, just try not to screw with other people's.

I would think that it's simply
How could the human race survive if everyone were homosexual, considering the lack of propagation it would entail
or sum'tin :p

The above is the single greatest argument for homosexuality.

The above is the single greatest argument for homosexuality.

How is that an argument for homosexuality?

How is that an argument for homosexuality?
Because then I wouldn't ever have to worry about accidentally breeding with somebody stupid enough to buy that crap. :D

How is that an argument for homosexuality?

Considering the fact that there would never been another human being, I would say it is for.

Is there something I over-looked?

Comments like Bottle's make me wish I didn't drink coffee.

Bottle, you very nearly got your revenge for the coffee snort with that one. :D

Try it with Dr. Pepper...

Not scalding, no, but hyper-carbonated and acidic.

How is that an argument for homosexuality?

Moar gays => less babies => less people => ??????? => Profit!

Comments like the bolded make me very glad I do not drink coffee.

Comments like Bottle's make me wish I didn't drink coffee.

Bottle, you very nearly got your revenge for the coffee snort with that one. :D

Comments like these make me thankful I drink my morning coffee far away from the computer.

Comments like these make me thankful I drink my morning coffee far away from the computer.

If NSG has thought me anything it's to look away from the screen when drinking, just in case.

I was traumatized as a child and that is why I am hetero.

If NSG has thought me anything it's to look away from the screen when drinking, just in case.

It hasn't, unfortunately, taught you how to spell. :p

It hasn't, unfortunately, taught you how to spell. :p

Nore shal ith.

I first became aware of my heterosexuality well before puberty. Sometimes I think I have always been this way, but lately there's been so much debate about choice that now I'm not so sure.

I don't really know what made me heterosexual. It could have been all that socialisation. It could have been genetics, as it runs in my family. Some people think I may have had some sort of traumatic experience in my childhood to make me this way. I assure them that this is not the case, but they insist.

Some people tell me it's just a phase that I'll grow out of. We'll see.

I have been accused of simply having a fear of members of the same sex. Or that I just need a good gay lover. But I have lots of friends who are the same sex as me, and I'm just not attracted to them. I tried liking them, but I just felt like I was lying to myself.

Coming out to my parents was pretty easy. They've always been quite liberal and progressive. They were a bit worried about me getting flak at school, but I told them I would be discreet and only talk about it with those I could trust.

Eventually, everyone started cluing in. They said I was flaunting it. Many people told me they were perfectly comfortable with it, but they just didn't want to see it. You know, just be who I am but keep quiet about it.

Still, it's kinda weird always having someone identify you according to your sexuality. You know, I am just like everyone else. They say I'm flaunting it, but they're the ones who are always putting such an emphasis on it.

What I don't get it is why everyone thinks we have some sort of agenda, that we want to seduce others into our lifestyle or something, yet everytime sexual lifestyles like mine appear in popular media, everyone makes a big deal.

Yes, I know the majority of child molesters are heterosexual. That doesn't mean we all are. Yes, heterosexuals should be allowed to teach children.

And then when everyone gets drunk, people start asking me all sorts of questions about what exactly we do when we have sex. The question I get asked the most (well, enough that I would remark on it) is how do two people who are so anatomically different can actually know how to please each other.

True, our divorce rate is spiralling and we don't seem too good at permanent relationships. And we are contributing to the overpopulation problem.

I was told to go to a therapist once. To be cured. But I ended up with a hetero therapist. Some of my former friends think it's her fault that I am the way I am. They told me to get aversion therapy, and I considered it, but then I heard it can cause memory problems, and it seemed like too much bother. I think that by this time, I was getting pretty comfortable with myself.

Having said all that, I think I could even handle it if my kids turned out to be hetero.

You sir, are WIN! I salute you

The disadvantage of dating somebody of the same sex is that you can't claim their gender naturally requires them to do your chores for you.

Sure you can... they just have the right to use the same argument right back at you :D

The above is the single greatest argument for homosexuality.

The second greatest. The hawt sex and the fantastic orgasms are number one...


*Whistles innocently*

I would think that it's simply
How could the human race survive if everyone were homosexual, considering the lack of propagation it would entail
or sum'tin :p
Yes, yes, great argument for teh gays, hawt sex, blah, blah, but really... that's kind of disappointing. I was hoping it would mirror the hetero version with some reference to imminent extinction of rich white people, or something.

Considering the fact that there would never been another human being, I would say it is for.

Is there something I over-looked?

Err, that would be an argument for heterosexuality.

You should have been gay. Gay guys get all the girls.

I've noticed this, but I don't understand it. WHY do gay guys get all the girls, and straight guys get very few, or none at all?

The only reason I can think of would be that girls don't want to have sex with guys, so they flock around gay men instead of straight men, because they just want to be "friends" with men, not have sex with them.

I hope I'm wrong about this. It's all very confusing to me.

(*gets a headache just thinking about it*)

Unfortunately, I was unable to offer a story of my own, but I thought that NSG would be a great place to ask for other people's stories. It's obviously anonymous here, so please feel free to be totally honest!

There were two little hydrogen groups on the end of a double helix bond within a DNA molecule slowly wrapping around each other around the time my parents had sexual intercourse. They met together, and formed the exact right formation for me to be, with the combination of protein sets and RNA sets from my mother, a sexually "normal" male.

KneelBeforeZod: It's not so much that they don't want to have sex with guys as they want to have sex with certain very specific guys and would rather not be bothered by the rest. Gay guys get lots of girls for the simple and basic reason that they are different from them but still not attracted or attached to them.