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The new movie untraceable is somewhat about this; the more people log on to a website, the faster someone dies. So my question is would you watch someone either be murdered or commit suicide online, on the tv, or perhaps in person?

No.

Be murdered or commit suicide? Not by design, no.

Whether I would watch an execution is a different matter.

My initial instinct is to say no.
Now that i've thought about it i'd still say no, there are no reasons for me to watch someone die.

The new movie untraceable is somewhat about this; the more people log on to a website, the faster someone dies. So my question is would you watch someone either be murdered or commit suicide online, on the tv, or perhaps in person?

No, I don't think I'd care to.

Though I'd might like to watch an execution. Healthy, wholesome, state-supported family fun.

Well thats a difficult question.... To many variables to be considered for me to give you a good answer.

No, though it depends what you mean. Have you ever been to a hospice? That's practically watching people die.

Well there's an unspoken assumption that I know what's going to happen and that there's nothing I can do to stop it. Under those conditions, no. Death isn't entertaining to me.

Though if it's a particularly silly death... hmmm.

Edit: In a similar vein, could you watch two gladiators fight to the death? If UFC were to the death, would you watch it?

I had to vote yes as I have watched footage of someone being killed.

I wonder how many people voting no also watched the video of Saddam Hussain being executed?

If it was a Pedophile or someone who killed an innocent animal/person for whatever asshole reason then yea, I could get into that. If it was an innocent bystander, than no, I can't.

Well, considering that I saw a real suicide video just a few days ago, I guess I'll have to vote "yes" on this one.

I'm not a bad person though. It's not like I actively try to find this stuff, and I only laughed because he was so fat and insane.

The new movie untraceable is somewhat about this; the more people log on to a website, the faster someone dies. So my question is would you watch someone either be murdered or commit suicide online, on the tv, or perhaps in person?

Abso-fucking-lutely not. I'd be the one stopping the murder and/or suicide.

Well, considering that I saw a real suicide video just a few days ago, I guess I'll have to vote "yes" on this one.

I'm not a bad person though. It's not like I actively try to find this stuff, and I only laughed because he was so fat and insane.

Wow...someone actually taped his own suicide? I can't imagine it being on YouTube....

No way, I'de want to try to stop them if I could.

But what about a loved one, would you want to be there when they died? If they were sick? That is harder question for me. It's not that I feel that I'm afraid of death. I don't think I am, but seeing someone you loved pass away. I would b/c that would be the last I would see them alive, but I also wouldn't b/c it would be so hard to watch someone you love leave you for good. Or until you meet them again, which ever you believe. I personally believe in Heaven.

No. Simple answer.

If I encountered a link to a video with a title like "loser hangs himself" or "gang stabs granny" I wouldn't click it if that's what you mean. On the other hand I have watched videos of people being murdered. One example I remember was news footage of a journalist getting shot on the street in Burma. Another was a video found online that was taken with a night vision camera from an attack helicopter that blew up a vehicle convoy and then picked off the survivors that tried to run away on foot.

Not by choice. If I was there and it was happening and I couldn't do anything to prevent it, I may be unable to not watch.

I would not watch anyone or anything die purely for my own gratification, whether suicide, murder or execution, and I would do everything in my power to help to shut down anything that peddled death for entertainment purposes.

On the other hand, if I couldn't prevent someone's death in spite of all my efforts, I would not then turn or run away from them. I think the right thing for me to do would be to stay with them and honour them to the very end.

I had to vote yes as I have watched footage of someone being killed.

I wonder how many people voting no also watched the video of Saddam Hussain being executed?

'Execution' and 'Murder' do not share definitions exactly.

If I walk out into the street and 'cap' someone (as it were) that would certainly be murder (assuming it wasn't in self-defence, or anything similar). Was it murder to execute, say Timothy McVay?

I say that execution can sometimes be murder, because all a killing needs to be an execution is the state-sponshorship for redress of extreme criminal activity, and I feel that say, int he 1930's, it was execution (in Nazi Germany) to kill someone harboring Jews. Because I feel there is no social wrong-doing in not killing Jews, I also feel that to execute said harborer would be murder.

Nö.

what about a loved one, would you want to be there when they died? If they were sick? That is harder question for me. It's not that I feel that I'm afraid of death. I don't think I am, but seeing someone you loved pass away. I would b/c that would be the last I would see them alive, but I also wouldn't b/c it would be so hard to watch someone you love leave you for good
Once I'd conveyed my Dad's "do not resuscitate" wishes to the medical staff after he was admitted to hospital with (another) heart attack early last year my Mum and I sat with him until he died about 40 minutes later. It wasn't a particularly nice experience but I'm glad that I was there, if only so that my Mum wasn't sitting there alone.

I've had the misfortune to see other people die, too, after a traffic accident, and it was also unpleasant although I was able to distance myself from it on that occasion since they were not people that I knew. All told, I'd rather not be in that position again and I can't see myself ever seeking out opportunities to see more lives end.

I've seen execution videos before, and videos of people dying, (war footage from Vietnam, Korea, etc). Of the dozen or so I've seen, I have only watched 1 intentionally. The rest were for academic related reasons, (documentaries, etc...I'm a history major, I guess this is somewhat expected), and only a quick image or few seconds long during an hour long historical documentary.

Under no circumstance do I enjoy watching people die, but it doesn't make me sick or lose sleep. It takes a lot to genuinely bother me.

Simple answer..... No.

If it was merely acting, and there was a good plot behind it, then yes. I mean, how many of us have not seen a movie with someone getting murdered or killing themselves. Romeo and Juliet would not be the same, for example, if everyone walked out before the suicide scene or if they cut it out.

But murder as in a snuff movie?... No.
I still have nightmares from seeing a documentary where a meat trader in one of the Asian markets skinned a live (subdued) cat, so I could honestly say the reality of death happening in front of my eyes would seriously freak me out.

Murder and simple suicide, no.

Euthanasia, that's a pickle, especially with ethical rules and regulations to consider and what qualifies as "aiding" or not...

I have better things to waste my time on

Euthanasia, that's a pickle, especially with ethical rules and regulations to consider and what qualifies as "aiding" or not...

why would you want to hang around for though?

Murder and simple suicide, no.

Euthanasia, that's a pickle, especially with ethical rules and regulations to consider and what qualifies as "aiding" or not...

I assume in Sweden Hippocratic Oath ( The Hypocritical Oath)is sworn to? Based off that I believe it would be difficult to assist in a euthanasia.

I assume in Sweden The Hypocritical Oath is sworn to? Based off that I believe it would be difficult to assist in a euthanasia.
It’s called the Hippocratic Oath.

It’s called the Hippocratic Oath.

I have seen it both ways depending on how a person views it. Will change my post to include both. ;)

why would you want to hang around for though?

Comfort and humanity, basically. No one should die alone with no one to hold.

Comfort and humanity, basically. No one should die alone with no one to hold.

Murder and simple suicide, no.

so you wouldn't do this for someone who had been stabbed to dying :p

I assume in Sweden The Hypocritical Oath is sworn to?

Some teaching institutions opt for it, others don't. It's not a requisite. My university does, though and I don't mind.

Based off that I believe it would be difficult to assist in a euthanasia.

However, the SMA (Swedish Medical Association) has ethical rules and two of them are:

"The doctor shall always bear in mind the importance of protecting and preserving human life and according to his best abilities aid people who are in a medical emergency. The doctor may never assist in actively bringing upon death."

"The doctor may never in any way assist in capital punishment, torture or other such cruel and inhumane acts."

So, it depends on how one would view "may never assist in actively bringing upon death". Assisting in the euthanasia by procuring the means to perform it is a no-no, of course, but not stopping a terminal patient from killing themselves by their own accord for instance through an overdose you had nothing to do with and staying with them as comfort... that's a grey area.

so you wouldn't do this for someone who had been stabbed to dying :p

I'd be too busy trying to make them stop dying to just sit there and watch...

I'd be too busy trying to make them stop dying to just sit there and watch...

cunning...

but I presume you would also go and save a "simple suicide"*? *serves the Grey well*

*I'm guessing you mean some folk overdosing and such

cunning...

but I presume you would also go and save a "simple suicide"*? *serves the Grey well*

*I'm guessing you mean some folk overdosing and such

What I mean by a "simple suicide" is the self-inflicted death by a person who is otherwise not on the verge of dying from a terminal disease (be it accidental or not). Someone who's just killing themselves for psycho-pathological reasons. Not the terminally ill who are resorting to suicide to end their physical suffering and whose consciousness isn't clouded.

Did no one see the Daniel Pearl video?

Who?

/Google? In my vagina?

Did no one see the Daniel Pearl video?

I watched it and, given the choice, I'm not sure I would make the same decision again - words can't really describe.

The new movie untraceable is somewhat about this; the more people log on to a website, the faster someone dies. So my question is would you watch someone either be murdered or commit suicide online, on the tv, or perhaps in person?

Depends on the person. Some layman? No. Convicted criminal? No. Fred Phelps? Yes. Internet troll? Yes.

Who?

/Google? In my vagina?

Que?

Que?

I was wondering who you were referring to and humorously excusing my unwillingness to google it by making a pop-culture reference.

If it was a Pedophile or someone who killed an innocent animal/person for whatever asshole reason then yea, I could get into that. If it was an innocent bystander, than no, I can't.

I think I'm one of those people who believes that even Adolf Hitler had some innate good inside him. So I'd have to go with 'no under all circumstances'.

Daniel Pearl was the journalist who was beheaded in Pakistan back in 2002. A video was released of him begging for his life and then having his throat slit with a knife.

I did not know that. Awful.

Because I'd want to for my own gratification or whatever? Hell no.

But if somebody was dying and they needed somebody to be with them at the end? I'd like to say yes, and I truly hope that I would, but I can imagine that it may be harder to do so than to simply say you would.

I was wondering who you were referring to and humorously excusing my unwillingness to google it by making a pop-culture reference.

Ah, sorry.

Daniel Pearl was the journalist who was beheaded in Pakistan back in 2002. A video was released of him begging for his life and then having his throat slit with a knife.

Wikipedia link (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Daniel_Pearl) - simply outlines the case.

I have, under different circumstances.
As per the OP circumstances, no.

I don't make a hobby out of watching people die or anything but it someone died in front of me I wouldn't be so horrified that I would have to look away. In most cases it would probably be stupid to look away. If someone suddenly dies right in front of me I should know what happened so I can avoid the thing that killed them. Like if the road turns to ice and kills the person driving in front of me it would not be a good idea to close my eyes in horror.

I think I'm one of those people who believes that even Adolf Hitler had some innate good inside him. So I'd have to go with 'no under all circumstances'.

You mean he ate the heart of an Orphan?! :eek:

I had to vote yes because I have seen videos of people dying...

Fuck, I voted no and then remembered that I watched that video of Saddam's execution.

Fuck, I voted no and then remembered that I watched that video of Saddam's execution.

The question is "would you", not "did you".

So unless you would watch it again, your vote is correct.

The question is "would you", not "did you".

So unless you would watch it again, your vote is correct.

Hm.

I wonder..

I'd do it for the lulz.

I watch the news -> I've seen murders and suicides on television

If they were bourgeois, gladly.

Why bother?

I watch the news -> I've seen murders and suicides on televisionYou mean, you see the results of such acts. Or do your news really show murders and suicides?

Does the video of Saddam Hussein's execution count?

Certainly not. Although I've seen a couple of nasty videos that I in retrospect regret watching. Among them Saddam Hussein's death.

You mean, you see the results of such acts. Or do your news really show murders and suicides?

Does the video of Saddam Hussein's execution count?

Yes, our news sometimes show the deed (with warnings) not just the results. But perhaps killing would describe it better. I remember seeing this kind of videos at least from Israel-Lebanon conflict (-06), Iraq and Sierra Leone.

The new movie untraceable is somewhat about this; the more people log on to a website, the faster someone dies. So my question is would you watch someone either be murdered or commit suicide online, on the tv, or perhaps in person?

I remember seeing a film a while ago about a person who was paralysed and was fighting for his right to die. He basically is incapable of killing himself, as he cannot move anything except for his head. It was a Spanish film, I'd recommend it to anyone really, although to my shame I cannot remember the exact name at the moment.
He succeeds in killing himself in the end, a friend puts a glass filled with some sort of poison and a straw in front of him, so he actually is able to take the poison himself, his own decision.

It's hard to say, but in a situation like that, and assuming the sucidee was someone I know and who means something to me, it would be important for me to be there and sort of "accompany" him/her.
If it was someone I don't know I wouldn't want to be there, as it would feel too much like sensationalism to me.

Been there, done that: I saw an old man die after being hit by a car. Not something I'd care to repeat.

I will witness someone passing on to the other side, but as far as anything else, I'm not going to watch. It's physically painful for me and can make me feel sick. I must admit I watched the news and it's hard to avoid stuff like this. I watched the very least of Hussein to keep up in the media. I watched the news for the information on Bhutto when she was assassinated. So, I am aware of the instances that provided opportunities. However, I searched out the news and it still upset me for days.

So my question is would you watch someone either be murdered or commit suicide online, on the tv, or perhaps in person?

I have watched people that were euthanised in person, yes.

Well Ive watched footage of fatal accidents before so I guess I already have, I would watch an execution ( i mean, I wouldnt go down to the gallows as a weekly trip or anything but if it meant something to me - like a family member or the murderer of a family member then yeah Id go)

So it really all depends on the circumstances - sitting at someones bedside in hospital as they passed away, yes. Watching someone being murdered outside my house, no.

No.

Again?

The new movie untraceable is somewhat about this; the more people log on to a website, the faster someone dies. So my question is would you watch someone either be murdered or commit suicide online, on the tv, or perhaps in person?

No. Only because I do not find it entertaining, though. If someone murders me or I commit suicide you are all welcome to watch.