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Do any sensible people listen to PETA any more?

The_pantless_hero
23-01-2008, 14:44
As of two minutes ago, the Today show aired parts of a new PETA video attacking PetSmart based on where they supposedly get their animals and what supposedly happens to them there on a supposedly regular basis. I use supposedly so much because we are talking about fucking PETA. There is 0 guarantee that they didn't make this shit up all themselves, film it, and say it was other people for the very purpose of attacking an establishment that sells *gasp* animals as pets! I wouldn't past them. Apparently however, PETA knows that there is some absurd percentage of the populace that sees them as a legitimate organization (like there are people who see the KKK as not racist).
Kryozerkia
23-01-2008, 14:51
Because some people are just nucking futs!
Free United States
23-01-2008, 17:04
Lord knows I hate PETA, but there was a documentary I saw of one of their investigations of a dog kennel. The people there were barbarci towards the animals, and for once I was siding w/ them (PETA). So you may want to wait to pass judgement.
The Parkus Empire
23-01-2008, 17:40
I agree with their cause, but I am in 100% opposition on how they go about it.

Why can they not take a lesson from the "Vegan Vixens", or whatever those ladies' name was?
Similization
23-01-2008, 17:43
Why can they not take a lesson from the "Vegan Vixens", or whatever those ladies' name was?Perhaps because they're too ugly to manipulate people into behaving with the lure of sex?
North Newland
23-01-2008, 17:47
PETA could (and should) tone it down a little. That way they wouldn't seem so much like a bunch of extremists and would sound more credible. However, my girl friend used to work at Petsmart as a dog trainer. And some of the things she talks about them doing are pretty bad.:(
Kryozerkia
23-01-2008, 17:48
PETA could (and should) tone it down a little. That way they wouldn't seem so much like a bunch of extremists and would sound more credible. However, my girl friend used to work at Petsmart as a dog trainer. And some of the things she talks about them doing are pretty bad.:(

I've seen those classes and they look so well done. The dogs aren't rowdy.

As for the pet centre, it's so much smaller than a humane society and the cats I saw had good sized accommodations and they even had a person who cared for each of them. Some of the cats even had open cage doors, so they were able to walk around the room.
Call to power
23-01-2008, 17:57
bacon tastes better when it comes with a side of suffering I presume the same goes for domestic house pets?
Fortuna_Fortes_Juvat
23-01-2008, 18:01
Lord knows I hate PETA, but there was a documentary I saw of one of their investigations of a dog kennel. The people there were barbarci towards the animals, and for once I was siding w/ them (PETA). So you may want to wait to pass judgement.

They use outdated, edited or outright faked videos. Ever notice that their "chicken farm" video hasn't changed in like 10 years?
Chumblywumbly
23-01-2008, 18:18
They use outdated, edited or outright faked videos. Ever notice that their "chicken farm" video hasn't changed in like 10 years?
But that's not to say the practice of factory farming is a wonderful thing. PETA may well use terrible methods to promote their cause, but this doesn't entail that their cause isn't worth struggling for.

The way we, as a society, treat nonhuman animals is disgusting, especially in relation to factory farming.
Brutland and Norden
23-01-2008, 18:29
PETA = fail

As long as they get nekkid to protest eating meat, I will continue to eat fried chicken. :D
The Alma Mater
23-01-2008, 18:34
They use outdated, edited or outright faked videos. Ever notice that their "chicken farm" video hasn't changed in like 10 years?

In all fairness, neither have many chicken farms.
HotRodia
23-01-2008, 18:36
PETA = fail

As long as they get nekkid to protest eating meat, I will continue to eat fried chicken. :D

I don't quite understand how nudity works as a protest to eating meat...but maybe that's why I'm not a member of PETA.
Telesha
23-01-2008, 18:39
I don't quite understand how nudity works as a protest to eating meat...but maybe that's why I'm not a member of PETA.

Well, think about it this way:

It's lunchtime and you're taking a walk trying to decide where to eat. Along the way you pass a nude PETA rally, contained in the rally are some of the ugliest people you've ever seen. You'd wince if you saw them clothed, but they've up and given you the full monty.

Still Hungry?
HotRodia
23-01-2008, 18:43
Well, think about it this way:

It's lunchtime and you're taking a walk trying to decide where to eat. Along the way you pass a nude PETA rally, contained in the rally are some of the ugliest people you've ever seen. You'd wince if you saw them clothed, but they've up and given you the full monty.

Still Hungry?

Nudity doesn't ruin my appetite, even really ugly nudity. Illness does on occasion, but that's about it. Maybe that's just me. *shrug*
Brutland and Norden
23-01-2008, 18:45
Well, think about it this way:

It's lunchtime and you're taking a walk trying to decide where to eat. Along the way you pass a nude PETA rally, contained in the rally are some of the ugliest people you've ever seen. You'd wince if you saw them clothed, but they've up and given you the full monty.
Nudity actually makes me hungry. :eek:
Telesha
23-01-2008, 18:47
Nudity actually makes me hungry. :eek:

I submit that you are in fact a closet cannibal. All that nude meat waving signs around must look like a smorgasboard ;)

PETA protests make me hungry, sad, but also hungry.
The Parkus Empire
23-01-2008, 18:49
I don't quite understand how nudity works as a protest to eating meat...but maybe that's why I'm not a member of PETA.

I believe it functions as an attention getter more than a protest, unless it was done in the cold.

Suffering works as a protest. Suicide got Oda Nobunaga to get his ass in-gear and conquer most of Japan, did it not?
Brutland and Norden
23-01-2008, 18:50
I submit that you are in fact a closet cannibal. All that nude meat waving signs around must look like a smorgasboard ;)

PETA protests make me hungry, sad, but also hungry.
Hush! Keep quiet, or I'll eat you!
HotRodia
23-01-2008, 18:53
I believe it functions as an attention getter more than a protest, unless it was done in the cold.

Suffering works as a protest. Suicide got Oda Nobunaga to get his ass in-gear and conquer most of Japan, did it not?

Suffering can work as a protest, yes. I'm just not sure nudity works like seppuku or burning oneself alive or getting imprisoned unjustly.
The Parkus Empire
23-01-2008, 19:01
Suffering can work as a protest, yes. I'm just not sure nudity works like seppuku or burning oneself alive or getting imprisoned unjustly.

No, it does not. Like I said, it is more of attention getter. People are transfixed by nudity. They want to look. If you just stand there with sign that demands better treatment of animals people will pretend like they do not notice you, and skulk with zeal in the opposite direction.
Cletustan
23-01-2008, 19:01
Some PETA2 kids were protesting the Mcdonalds near my house about a year ago, so I went and spent all the money I had on me (about 60$) on chicken burgers, and went outside and stood in front of them and ate them nice and slow, making sure PETA heard and saw how much I was enjoying them. Sometimes I would take one bite and throw the burger at the crowd.

Good times. Next time I'll beat them with sausage links
HotRodia
23-01-2008, 19:09
No, it does not. Like I said, it is more of attention getter. People are transfixed by nudity. They want to look. If you just stand there with sign that demands better treatment of animals people will pretend like they do not notice you, and skulk with zeal in the opposite direction.

I must be very unusual. I'd be giving them a polite smile and saying, "Howdy" and perhaps making small talk before going and doing what I was about.
The Parkus Empire
23-01-2008, 19:18
I must be very unusual. I'd be giving them a polite smile and saying, "Howdy" and perhaps making small talk before going and doing what I was about.

Yes, you are unusual (if everyone were like you, nudity would not be illegal). I am the same way.
The_pantless_hero
23-01-2008, 21:32
Yes, you are unusual (if everyone were like you, nudity would not be illegal). I am the same way.
Or it would rather be more accepted in the Puritanical States of America.
New Ziedrich
23-01-2008, 21:32
Some PETA2 kids were protesting the Mcdonalds near my house about a year ago, so I went and spent all the money I had on me (about 60$) on chicken burgers, and went outside and stood in front of them and ate them nice and slow, making sure PETA heard and saw how much I was enjoying them. Sometimes I would take one bite and throw the burger at the crowd.

Good times. Next time I'll beat them with sausage links

This is funny as hell.

I really, really hate PETA. Back when I was in high school, a classmate of mine was handing out some PETA pamphlets. I never spoke to him again.

Their obnoxious asshole methods do nothing but annoy people. If people want to help animals, that's fine with me, but PETA just hurts their own cause by being jackasses.
Conserative Morality
23-01-2008, 21:44
As of two minutes ago, the Today show aired parts of a new PETA video attacking PetSmart based on where they supposedly get their animals and what supposedly happens to them there on a supposedly regular basis. I use supposedly so much because we are talking about fucking PETA. There is 0 guarantee that they didn't make this shit up all themselves, film it, and say it was other people for the very purpose of attacking an establishment that sells *gasp* animals as pets! I wouldn't past them. Apparently however, PETA knows that there is some absurd percentage of the populace that sees them as a legitimate organization (like there are people who see the KKK as not racist).
You'd have to be unbelivably stupid to belive anything over HALF of what PETA says. You'd have to be brainwashed to belive all of it.
CONSPIRACY!
It's lunchtime and you're taking a walk trying to decide where to eat. Along the way you pass a nude PETA rally, contained in the rally are some of the ugliest people you've ever seen. You'd wince if you saw them clothed, but they've up and given you the full monty.

Wait a minute... I thought public nudity was illegal:confused:
Kyronea
23-01-2008, 21:56
Some PETA2 kids were protesting the Mcdonalds near my house about a year ago, so I went and spent all the money I had on me (about 60$) on chicken burgers, and went outside and stood in front of them and ate them nice and slow, making sure PETA heard and saw how much I was enjoying them. Sometimes I would take one bite and throw the burger at the crowd.

Good times. Next time I'll beat them with sausage links

I hope it was worth the heart attacks you'll suffer.
Conserative Morality
23-01-2008, 21:59
I hope it was worth the heart attacks you'll suffer.
Have you been watching supersize me? "Oh Noez! eating fast food makes you fat!AND it's not healthy and fortified with vitamins!:eek:"
At Linköping University Swedish scientist Fredrik Nyström repeated the experiment under laboratory conditions, raising the calorie intake by fast food to 6000 calories per day for seven of his students. Physical exercise was discouraged; participants in the study were even issued free bus passes in the hopes that they would not walk even short distances. The calories also did not have to come exclusively from fast food per se, as long as most of the calories still came in the form of saturated fats. Students who fell short of their intake were given high-calorie shakes at bedtime. The results of the experiment were different than those in Spurlock's film. While the participants gained 5-15% extra weight during the study, and complained of feeling "tired and bloated", no mood swings were observed. "Significant" changes in the participants' livers were observed, but Nyström noted that these changes were "never even close to dangerous". Nyström ultimately decided that individual variations in metabolism could have a massive effect on a subject's response to such a diet. He also conjectured that Spurlock's apparently extreme reaction to his own experiment might have been due to undiagnosed liver problems, or his partially vegan diet, which rendered his metabolism ill-suited to deal with a diet that high in carbohydrates and saturated fat
Scaremongerer...
PelecanusQuicks
23-01-2008, 22:04
As of two minutes ago, the Today show aired parts of a new PETA video attacking PetSmart based on where they supposedly get their animals and what supposedly happens to them there on a supposedly regular basis. I use supposedly so much because we are talking about fucking PETA. There is 0 guarantee that they didn't make this shit up all themselves, film it, and say it was other people for the very purpose of attacking an establishment that sells *gasp* animals as pets! I wouldn't past them. Apparently however, PETA knows that there is some absurd percentage of the populace that sees them as a legitimate organization (like there are people who see the KKK as not racist).

No, I don't believe sensible people give a rats ass about PETA. Those of us who love our domesticated pets (I have a beautiful german shepherd :D) think PETA should mind their own freakin business. We treat our animals well and despise those who don't. I don't need PETA telling me what I know is right or wrong.

Anyway in our house PETA stands for People for the Eating of Tasty Animals. :p
OceanDrive2
23-01-2008, 22:08
Lord knows I hate PETA, but there was a documentary I saw of one of their investigations of a dog kennel. The people there were barbarci towards the animals, and for once I was siding w/ them (PETA). So you may want to wait to pass judgement.I am on a -case by case- diet ;)

but yes.. -most of the time- naked women make me hungry :D
Xomic
23-01-2008, 22:24
PETA gives environmentalism a bad name
Ultraviolent Radiation
23-01-2008, 23:00
Did sensible people ever listen to PETA?
The Parkus Empire
23-01-2008, 23:36
Or it would rather be more accepted in the Puritanical States of America.

Puritan rulers, maybe. The people are sex-mad. If a woman is sunbathing topless it becomes an ogle-fest.
New Genoa
23-01-2008, 23:49
Some PETA2 kids were protesting the Mcdonalds near my house about a year ago, so I went and spent all the money I had on me (about 60$) on chicken burgers, and went outside and stood in front of them and ate them nice and slow, making sure PETA heard and saw how much I was enjoying them. Sometimes I would take one bite and throw the burger at the crowd.

Good times. Next time I'll beat them with sausage links

Yea but did the food make you sick since it's fast food? I mean that much fast food should kill someone I would think!
New Limacon
24-01-2008, 00:39
I'm thinking of founding my own organization for people who enjoy meat: People for the Eating of Tasty Animals. (I have a feeling I've seen that here somewhere, and I apologize to whomever I stole it from.)

I respect PETA's views, but videos like this do not justify the means. It's too bad, because there really should be a healthy debate on how animals are treated. Instead, PETA polarizes everyone into with them or against them. Folks who don't want factory farms but don't really think picketing in the nip will help anything are pushed in the latter category.
Indri
24-01-2008, 00:51
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No, you're a chicken strip.
New Limacon
24-01-2008, 00:55
http://img530.imageshack.us/img530/2771/p2notanuggetstkrtt8.jpg
No, you're a chicken strip.
I really, really want to see this in a McDonald's ad sometime soon.
Katganistan
24-01-2008, 01:40
I don't quite understand how nudity works as a protest to eating meat...but maybe that's why I'm not a member of PETA.

I think it was more a protest against furs.
Callisdrun
24-01-2008, 01:58
No.