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The creationism topic died through modivine influence, long live the new topic !

But lets change the rules somewhat. Let us have a topic in which the theory of evolution through natural selection and Biblical Young Earth Creationism shall not be considered - since that has been done hundreds of times already.

Let us instead truly ponder the controversy and focus on all those other theories - scientific or not. Can you make a case for or against Lamarckian evolution ? The Hindu creation myths ? Degeneration theory ? Or perhaps even the FSM ?

So pick something that explains the diversity of life and where us humans came from which is not Biblical or derived from Darwins idea. Point out how well or how poorly its claims correspond to reality. Seriousness is appreciated, but humour is welcome as well.

Do try however to make posts with more than 1 line and give background information. Not everybody is as well versed as you in the ancient myths of a lesser Egyptian dynasty or the Chinese Philosophies of 2000 BC after all...

Go ;)

The creationism topic died through modivine influence, long live the new topic !

But lets change the rules somewhat. Let us have a topic in which the theory of evolution through natural selection and Biblical Young Earth Creationism shall not be considered - since that has been done hundreds of times already.

Let us instead truly ponder the controversy and focus on all those other theories - scientific or not. Can you make a case for or against Lamarckian evolution ? The Hindu creation myths ? Degeneration theory ? Or perhaps even the FSM ?

So pick something that explains the diversity of life and where us humans came from which is not Biblical or derived from Darwins idea. Point out how well or how poorly its claims correspond to reality. Seriousness is appreciated, but humour is welcome as well.

Go ;)


The aliens done it. Yep!

The aliens done it. Yep!

Which aliens and what did they do exactly ;) ?

Not from the bible... Can it be stupid? Yes? Okay. THE MIGHTY GOD THOR CREATED US! Not biblical, see?

The aliens done it. Yep!

Quantum energy did it!

Not from the bible... Can it be stupid? Yes? Okay. THE MIGHTY GOD THOR CREATED US! Not biblical, see?

Ohh I always thought it was Odin?

Not from the bible... Can it be stupid? Yes? Okay. THE MIGHTY GOD THOR CREATED US! Not biblical, see?

That is fine - except that it does not correspond to the actual myth believers of Thor believe in :p

How would you say that this idea corresponds to reality ? Do you find little hammers everywhere ?

Which aliens and what did they do exactly ;) ?

You know! Them aliens that brought our monkey forefathers to this planet, and then fucked off. They are still watching us you know. Umm unless they are all dead by now!

You know! Them aliens that brought our monkey forefathers to this planet, and then fucked off. They are still watching us you know. Umm unless they are all dead by now!

Intruiging :) What is your evidence ?
Perhaps all those people seeing flying saucers are having access to some form of racial memory ?

Intruiging :) What is your evidence ?
Perhaps all those people seeing flying saucers are having access to some form of racial memory ?

Thats exactly it. Also I read a book about many years ago. One might say it was a holy book.

Thats exactly it. Also I read a book about many years ago. One might say it was a holy book.

Did it mention how the animals got here ? And how it is that we can derive nourishment from eating them if they did not originate on the same world ?

And was it by chance written by El Ron ?

Did it mention how the animals got here ? And how it is that we can derive nourishment from eating them if they did not originate on the same world ?

And was it by chance written by El Ron ?

Well It was a loooooong time back now, I can't even remember the authors name, some dutch fellow I believe?

The creationism topic died through modivine influence, long live the new topic !

But lets change the rules somewhat. Let us have a topic in which the theory of evolution through natural selection and Biblical Young Earth Creationism shall not be considered - since that has been done hundreds of times already.

Huh, why not forbid using any word containing an "e"?

Just for difficulty. And fun. And high aspirations. Bah, humbug!

Well It was a loooooong time back now, I can't even remember the authors name, some dutch fellow I believe?It sounds a bit like something Erich von Däniken (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Erich_von_D%C3%A4niken) might have written.

Strangely enough, I had a dream last night about how odd things would be if Lamarck had been right.

It sounds a bit like something Erich von Däniken (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Erich_von_D%C3%A4niken) might have written.

Thats the very fella!

The earth (and all the other planets) were created for a game of "divine pool" by the Gods of Fate. Everytime the planets are aligned in a straight line, a God of Fate gets a try to sink them all into the sun. So far, they've all missed.

Huh, why not forbid using any word containing an "e"?

Just for difficulty. And fun. And high aspirations. Bah, humbug!

While that also would be fun, it is far less controversial ;)

The creationism topic died through modivine influence, long live the new topic !

But lets change the rules somewhat. Let us have a topic in which the theory of evolution through natural selection and Biblical Young Earth Creationism shall not be considered - since that has been done hundreds of times already.

Let us instead truly ponder the controversy and focus on all those other theories - scientific or not. Can you make a case for or against Lamarckian evolution ? The Hindu creation myths ? Degeneration theory ? Or perhaps even the FSM ?

So pick something that explains the diversity of life and where us humans came from which is not Biblical or derived from Darwins idea. Point out how well or how poorly its claims correspond to reality. Seriousness is appreciated, but humour is welcome as well.

Do try however to make posts with more than 1 line and give background information. Not everybody is as well versed as you in the ancient myths of a lesser Egyptian dynasty or the Chinese Philosophies of 2000 BC after all...

Go ;)

Our great world is protected and kept safe by the mighty Horton. We are but a speck on a pink puff and he carries our world around protecting it from danger. I think it corresponds to reality as well as many things. Ok but it does beg the question who or what is responsible for Horton. *sigh* The great Dr Suess in the sky I suppose.

(I haven't had my caffiene yet...so sorry)

Which aliens and what did they do exactly ;) ?

http://img246.imageshack.us/img246/9651/monolithiy6.jpg

Huh, why not forbid using any word containing an "e"?

Just for difficulty. And fun. And high aspirations. Bah, humbug!

Somebody actually managed to write a full-length book without using the letter "e" at all, just to show that they could. (Sorry, I don't have any more details about it -- such as the author's name, or the title -- on hand...)

Somebody actually managed to write a full-length book without using the letter "e" at all, just to show that they could. (Sorry, I don't have any more details about it -- such as the author's name, or the title -- on hand...)

Gadsby, by Ernest Vincent Wright and La Disparition by Georges Perec both fit that description.

Gadsby, by Ernest Vincent Wright and La Disparition by Georges Perec both fit that description.
Thank you for filling that gap in my information.

Gadsby, by Ernest Vincent Wright and La Disparition by Georges Perec both fit that description.

Umm how did they manage to let people know the authors names?

Gadsby, by Ernest Vincent Wright and La Disparition by Georges Perec both fit that description.

G.P. could adopt an alias. That inauspicious monika is a Saturnalia of "e"'s. ;)

I think I had a plain point, until I took it to wanktown with my grammatical limitations. I could discuss origin myths without foundation in Criationism, but without any allusion to Darwinism, it is in an "abstract gaming" class.

Also, how am I going to put a point which afflicts my mind, that Darwinism cannot approach that task of Criationism, ascribing a first act? That it is in fact blank on origins, only positing how living things form not any authorship of such?

If only I could sustain this, I could probably work "I Ching" into this discussion too. But this parsimony of a particular non-consonant is driving I barking mad!

I did it.


For the Lulz.

Which aliens and what did they do exactly ;) ?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chariots_of_the_Gods

They did everything, including creating the pyramids for no "primitive" humans could have done that -- oh and the chalk/stone figures you can see from the air cut in the turf...

Yeah.

I did it.


For the Lulz.

Were they epic lulz or just regular lulz.

Which aliens and what did they do exactly ;) ?
The Raelians did it.

Click Stand;13394590']Were they epic lulz or just regular lulz.

Lulz lulz. *nods*

Before we ask "where did we come from?", we have to ask "are we even here?"
I doubt therefore I think therfore I am is flawed because existing in the physical sense cannot be proven by existing in the mental sense. My theory: nothing actually exists; your senses are lying to you.

I like the Australian Aboriginal my...er, theory. We were created during the Dreamtime by weird, desert gods. But the Dreamtime wasn't a set, finite amount of time. There is no past or future, only Now, and the Dreamtime is part of that.

This is clearly science. For starters, you can't prove it to be wrong. Not only that, but it is very confusing. That means that not only is it science, but that it is true science, much too true for you to understand.