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so I've decided to come out. I now honest with myself and happy so I thought I could be honest on here as well.


Has anyone on here come out to their families or friends? how did they take it? Or has anyone close to you come out?

What's what now? I-

Huh? But...*head explodes*

Anyway, I've had a limited "atheist closet-coming out", where I've told some of my family members I'm an atheist. They seemed disappointed.

EDIT: Anyway, it must relieve stress to not be bottled up inside, that's cool. But if you start noticing society is filled with even more discriminating douschebags than it used to be before you came out...patience results may vary.

so I've decided to come out. I now honest with myself and happy so I thought I could be honest on here as well.

Now what am I going to do with this ring?

In all seriousness, good for you. I've never come out, because I don't think I was ever in. But I can imagine that it was difficult, and wish you the best.

Your now a Republican?

My SO "came out" in high school... briefly. Sort of the experimental phase thing. His parents weren't so happy, but his relationship only lasted a month or so, so it wasn't a huge deal. His mom kept talking about how he was supposed to grow up and get married and have kids, and he was like, "Mom, I'm 16. I'm not getting married and having kids for years and years anyway. I don't even want kids."

In terms of non-teenage-experimentation, my best friend confessed doubts as to her sexuality last year, and still doesn't know what she "is"... but I'm the only one who knows, and being completely open and all right with that, I handled it just fine and ended up helping her figure a lot of stuff out.

I recently came out. To a family that for long ages has been devoted to cod, flounder, and whitefish, I confessed my long-suppressed burning love for rainbow trout.

They took it remarkably well, noting that trout was probably healthier anyway, although my grandfather was heard to murmur ominously, "As long as he stays away from them salmon folks," as he cleaned his shotgun.

I came out to my Mom totally accidentally. I didn't realize that she didn't know; I just figured she didn't want to talk about it, just like we don't talk about a lot of things. It was a little awkward after my blurt-out, but then we went back to just not talking about it.

I don't go into closets, because I have claustrophobia. That, and I don't have much hanging in my closet right now (I need to do laundry).

Good luck.

Assuming you're talking about sexual orientation....

My parents were perfectly fine with it, as I knew they would be.

My best friend laughed, and told me he had always known. (He's a liar. :))

Another close friend refused to believe me at first. He called me a half hour after I came out to him, to make sure.

My conservative religious friend is, I'm told (we haven't talked about it, but my friends have talked to him), perfectly comfortable with me, despite knowing... he said nothing at the time. (I came out to him incidentally. He happened to be there.) Then again, I've always been very private when it cames to my sexual and romantic feelings, so the fact that I don't "flaunt" myself may have something to do with that, rather than any genuine acceptance on his part. I don't know.

My other friends... not much to say about them. They took it about the way you'd expect a bunch of decent liberal straight guys to take it: some awkwardness, but certainly no hostility.

Edit: I'm bisexual, if it matters.

I came out to my Mom totally accidentally. I didn't realize that she didn't know; I just figured she didn't want to talk about it, just like we don't talk about a lot of things.

At no one moment did I "come out" to my parents. I've never said to them, "Mom, Dad, I'm bisexual."

I've just contested their assumptions of heterosexuality enough that they've abandoned them... and otherwise talked to them as if I had already come out to them.

I think this circuitous route might have confused them at first, but they get it now. :)

Anyway, I've had a limited "atheist closet-coming out", where I've told some of my family members I'm an atheist. They seemed disappointed.
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Heh when I told my mom (in conversation, it wasn't something I announced or anything) that I was an atheist she just went, "No you're not."

I'm pretty sure she still thinks that.

Heh when I told my mom (in conversation, it wasn't something I announced or anything) that I was an atheist she just went, "No you're not."

I don't remember what it was like coming out as an atheist. I was nine at the time, so....

I don't remember what it was like coming out as an atheist. I was nine at the time, so....

That was the thing, I didn't so much come out it was just part of the conversation, I thought she knew because I had been one since at least the 7th grade...ah well...

Heh when I told my mom (in conversation, it wasn't something I announced or anything) that I was an atheist she just went, "No you're not."

I'm pretty sure she still thinks that.

Let me get this straight: Your mother does not believe in you being an atheist?
What about irony? Does your mom believe in that?

I haven't told my parents I'm an atheist yet, partially because I'm not exactly sure how they'd react.

I mean, you know those people who say "Imagine God is a mountain-- now, there are many paths up this mountain-- many ways to God." Well, I always want to point out that the mountain is, in fact, a valley.

And I get the feeling that my father would not like that. You have to choose one of the paths, he'd say-- that is, you have to believe in God in some way.

My mother, on the other hand, would probably not mind. Meh.

Maybe I'll admit it next time I'm home from school.
Then again, maybe not.

Well... I finally admitted to myself and came out to my friends shortly afterwards that I was a Moonie while in college, they mainly just made fun of me.

In terms of sexuality, no one that I didn't already know was homosexual has come out to me so... No. I've been hit on a few times though.

so I've decided to come out. I now honest with myself and happy so I thought I could be honest on here as well.


Has anyone on here come out to their families or friends? how did they take it? Or has anyone close to you come out?

I give your post a 1 out of 5. Poor, very poor indeed.

I give your post a 1 out of 5. Poor, very poor indeed.

People who post nothing but negative comments, make gay baby jesus cry.
Find something else to do.

My best friend just told me she was bisexual the other day. I felt honored to be the first one she told, but I think it will be a while before she tells her parents.

My dad told me he was an atheist as I was trying to tell him that I was an atheist. It was really really cool. Now we have the fun past time of laughing at the trinity broadcasting network.

Telling my mom was much less of a bonding moment. We were painting my room, and she straight up asked me what I thought about god. She asked good questions and kept her composure, but I could tell she took it pretty hard.

Yada yada yada, conservative friends give me weird looks, progressive friends are all "about time dude," the usual. About the only unique thing is that I have one friend who everyone else says I cannot tell, that it would hurt him too much. So basically I'm caught between being honest and protecting my friends feelings.

I haven't told my parents I'm an atheist yet, partially because I'm not exactly sure how they'd react.

I mean, you know those people who say "Imagine God is a mountain-- now, there are many paths up this mountain-- many ways to God." Well, I always want to point out that the mountain is, in fact, a valley.

And I get the feeling that my father would not like that. You have to choose one of the paths, he'd say-- that is, you have to believe in God in some way.

My mother, on the other hand, would probably not mind. Meh.

Maybe I'll admit it next time I'm home from school.
Then again, maybe not.
Yeah, my parents are like that too. They think you have to have some sort of spirituality in your life or else you're missing something, cutting off a side of who you are.

So they hate it whenever I talk about being an atheist. Luckily they happily set aside that dislike of one facet of myself and love me anyway. They're awesome parents even if we do argue on that note.

Are we really expected to believe this from "hey I'm an atheist...no wait now I'm a hardcore muslim...no I'm now an agnostic republican, no wait I'm a democrat, and I'd rather give blowjobs to an entire football team than have sex with a woman but I swear I'm not gay!" Soviestan?

Please, the fact that any of you would consider a word this dolt says with even a shred of sincerity is troubling. He's changed personas so many times he's deep kimchi but with only one forum name.

so I've decided to come out. I now honest with myself and happy so I thought I could be honest on here as well. You came out with what?

Has anyone on here come out to their families or friends? how did they take it? Or has anyone close to you come out?Actually, just yesterday a dude at work confessed to me his crush on me.

Are we really expected to believe this from "hey I'm an atheist...no wait now I'm a hardcore muslim...no I'm now an agnostic republican, no wait I'm a democrat, and I'd rather give blowjobs to an entire football team than have sex with a woman but I swear I'm not gay!" Soviestan?

Please, the fact that any of you would consider a word this dolt says with even a shred of sincerity is troubling. He's changed personas so many times he's deep kimchi but with only one forum name.

Hey if he wants to have a gay persona that's fine by me, true or not. It's still a good topic, and produces some interesting stories.

Well, I guess you could say that finally sharing my political (anarchism) and religious (agnosticism) opinions would sort of count as "coming out". My mom didn't have quite as much trouble as I though about me being an anarcho-syndicalist. She didn't understand it at first, but after I sufficiently explained it she was cool with it. Agnosticism was a bit different. At first she had a harder time accepting it, but now she's cool about it.

Three of my closest friends are bisexual, and two of them chose to come out to me first. I felt pretty honored to share that vulnerable moment with them. It hasn't changed our friendship at all, and the rest of my friends that I have have been very tolerant and accepting of my other friends.

The third friend also happens to be the love of my life. She came out over this last summer, and strangely enough, it's been easier to and less awkward to hang out with her since. Granted, there have been some rough patches, especially now that she's been diagnosed with bipolar disorder after a failed suicide attempt. Unfortunately for me, she's been slowly slipping her way out of my life, especially now that I'm off to college. Oh well, can't win 'em all. :(

Are we really expected to believe this from "hey I'm an atheist...no wait now I'm a hardcore muslim...no I'm now an agnostic republican, no wait I'm a democrat, and I'd rather give blowjobs to an entire football team than have sex with a woman but I swear I'm not gay!" Soviestan?

Please, the fact that any of you would consider a word this dolt says with even a shred of sincerity is troubling. He's changed personas so many times he's deep kimchi but with only one forum name.

I object! You assume a football team must be male! That is outright sexism and completely disproves everything you've said!

Let me get this straight: Your mother does not believe in you being an atheist?
What about irony? Does your mom believe in that?

Perhaps mom gets irony better than you think. I am too tired to exactly recall where it is, but somewhere in Corinthians iirc it states that the nonbeliever is saved through a believer parent, also a believer spouse. Like I said I am too tired to find it tonight. But mom may understand better than you think. Food for thought.

Please, the fact that any of you would consider a word this dolt says with even a shred of sincerity is troubling.

As a matter of principle, I generally take people on Internet forums at their word. There's no loss in doing so, and better that than wrongly doubt somebody who's being honest.

Since when is being bi some big ohmyfuckinggod huge deal? You're selfish, get over it.

Since when is being bi some big ohmyfuckinggod huge deal?

Well, for our lives, it's a pretty big deal... who you're sexually and romantically attracted to tends to have a rather profound influence on your life.

And homophobia has never made much of a distinction... unless we're inclined to act straight our entire lives, which plenty of us aren't.

Well, for our lives, it's a pretty big deal... who you're sexually and romantically attracted to tends to have a rather profound influence on your life.

And homophobia has never made much of a distinction... unless we're inclined to act straight our entire lives, which plenty of us aren't.

You feel victimized... for being bi?

And homophobia has never made much of a distinction... unless we're inclined to act straight our entire lives, which plenty of us aren't.

In many cases, bisexuals get it worse.

You feel victimized... for being bi?

Not "for being bi" as such. For being bisexual in a society hostile towards same-sex attraction--one that discriminates against us, views our relationships as inferior, erases our existence in much of its culture, and systematically tries to force us into closets with suffocating heteronormativity.

The fact that I'm attracted to women too changes none of that.

In many cases, bisexuals get it worse.

Indeed. They often face discrimination from homosexuals as well, for various reasons.

Not "for being bi" as such. For being bisexual in a society hostile towards same-sex attraction--one that discriminates against us, views our relationships as inferior, erases our existence in much of its culture, and systematically tries to force us into closets with suffocating heteronormativity.

The fact that I'm attracted to women too changes none of that.

It sounds so silly to me, but whatever.

If you insist on feeling like a victim, go ahead.

My wife's ex-husband came out of the closet after they'd been married for 4 years. She took it rather badly. Particularly when he moved his boyfriend into their home while she was still living there.

Yay, now me and Sovie can finally be together! :fluffle::fluffle::fluffle:

so I've decided to come out. I now honest with myself and happy so I thought I could be honest on here as well.


Has anyone on here come out to their families or friends? how did they take it? Or has anyone close to you come out?

I sort of came out to my mother about being bi... but she refuses to even hear it. It's a good thing there's an ocean between us, so she can go on ignoring for as long as she likes. :)

In many cases, bisexuals get it BOTH WAYS.

Corrected :)

Indeed. They often face discrimination from homosexuals as well, for various reasons.

True.

I know in my SO's case, he came out as being bi - and got hassled a lot more for that than if he had just come out as being gay. There are people who have the whole "one or the other" attitude, and think someone who claims to be "bisexual" either a) can't make up his/her mind, b) just wants sex however he/she can get it, c) isn't "brave" enough to just come out as homosexual and/or is just denying the whole truth, among other things.

My parents, when they found out - my SO and I were just really good friends at the time - assumed he was actually gay and just couldn't bring himself to admit it. When I tried to convince them otherwise, they donned a "that's really weird" attitude... where being gay would be just fine. My aunt's a lesbian, and they have no problem with that. Bi, on the other hand, was somehow "abnormal".

However, they've gotten much better since then - that was years ago.

[QUOTE=North East Essex;13392693]Corrected :)[/QUOTE

Ha, ha, ha, ha, ha.... Nice one, N.E.E.

When I came out, it was sort of accidental. The group of friends I had at the time said they were okay with it, but they weren't, so I stopped being friends with them.
I became closer to a different group of friends, though. Ironically, my best friend now said at one point, when asked the hypothetical question of whether or not he'd be okay with a gay friend, said 'no'.

Well... I finally admitted to myself and came out to my friends shortly afterwards that I was a Moonie while in college, they mainly just made fun of me.

In terms of sexuality, no one that I didn't already know was homosexual has come out to me so... No. I've been hit on a few times though.

or maybe they do know and are still hitting on you, cus you soooo fine *wink wink*

Are we really expected to believe this from "hey I'm an atheist...no wait now I'm a hardcore muslim...no I'm now an agnostic republican, no wait I'm a democrat, and I'd rather give blowjobs to an entire football team than have sex with a woman but I swear I'm not gay!" Soviestan?

Please, the fact that any of you would consider a word this dolt says with even a shred of sincerity is troubling. He's changed personas so many times he's deep kimchi but with only one forum name.

touché.

I haven't come out to my parents yet. I've known I'm bisexual since I was 12 (or at least suspected and had it confirmed over the next several years). I came out to a conservative Christian friend of mine who condemned me to hell and spent years burying it. I came out to a friend I consider a sister, and she accepted me. I came out to my ex-boyfriend (who has been sworn to secrecy, and who will hold his vow). I also, interestingly enough, came out to another really good friend of mine who was convinced I had told him last year.

My parents are another whole problem all by themselves. My dad is so conservative he couldn't handle it, and my mom doesn't believe in bisexuality (she thinks you're either heterosexual or homosexual). It's very difficult to work in those circumstances, and I'm still fairly dependent on them. I will come out after I am more financially secure, since I can pretty much guarantee that they will cut me off when they learn.

(Thanks for reading the mini-essay.)

About a year ago I came out as a Libertarian. Prior to that I had refused to identify myself with any specific political school of thought but it was high time I got off the fence and jumped in!

Heh when I told my mom (in conversation, it wasn't something I announced or anything) that I was an atheist she just went, "No you're not."

I'm pretty sure she still thinks that.

I had that conversation when I was younger but I think in retrospect, my mother was still in some pain over losing her mom and didn't know how to handle my revelation.

I have come out as bisexual, and yes, I married a guy. He knows I am.

I have also come out of the closet as an atheist and a pinko commie.

Since when is being bi some big ohmyfuckinggod huge deal? You're selfish, get over it.
Bi = selfish?

*confuzzled*

When I was at school there was one particular lesson that I used to go to where the teacher was always late. One day we hid in the class room and jumped out on him. I hid in the closet just prior to jumping out. Is that what you mean?

Bi = selfish?

*confuzzled*

Ya want it all!

Bi = selfish?Nah. Bi = unlimited by stupid rules.

Bi = selfish?

*confuzzled*

I read it as 'You're selfish for claiming being Bi-sexual entitles you to all this attention or w/e' not that bisexuals are selfish per se

so I've decided to come out. I now honest with myself and happy so I thought I could be honest on here as well.

Felicitations.

I read it as 'You're selfish for claiming being Bi-sexual entitles you to all this attention or w/e' not that bisexuals are selfish per se
Oh.

That would make more sense.

I read it as 'You're selfish for claiming being Bi-sexual entitles you to all this attention or w/e' not that bisexuals are selfish per se

What attention? Bisexuals are largely ignored in mainstream media and culture.

lol I never said Bisexuals get attention, I was just giving my interpretation of what Il-Ruffino said!

And tbh I don't think they get a lot of attention either! But I think they get more now than before. A lot more people nowadays are claiming to be bisexual IIRC because its becoming a bit faddy, like people are saying they're bisexual to be seen as 'cool' and 'edgy' when they would never even dream of dating another person of the same gender.

This thread would be an appropriate place to mention that since yesterday I have had a sex change and am now living in a nunnery.

Oh, and I'm not answering any annoying questions. I just thought I should tell you all. :rolleyes:

And tbh I don't think they get a lot of attention either! But I think they get more now than before. A lot more people nowadays are claiming to be bisexual IIRC because its becoming a bit faddy, like people are saying they're bisexual to be seen as 'cool' and 'edgy' when they would never even dream of dating another person of the same gender.

Kinda agree. It's a kind of short-cut to proving you're not homophobic. "Sure, I would consider having sex with my own gender. But not you, of course, we're just friends right?"

Personally, I don't mind flirting a bit with other men, but just as with women, I have no intention of actually having sex with them. It's just a game until mucous membranes come into contact, after that it's kinda scarey.

It's just a game until mucous membranes come into contact, after that it's kinda scarey.How so?

How so?

Coz he ain't gay?

Coz he ain't gay?And?

In many cases, bisexuals get it worse.I'm not sure I agree. Seems to me the people who'll accuse bisexuals for various nonsense have even more antipathy towards homosexuals. That's my experience anyway (I'm bi myself).

As for coming out, I was fortunate enough to grow up in an environment where heterosexism wasn't tolerated. The only downside to that, was that I was in my mid teens before I realised homophobia was more than a scary bedtime story, and an adult before I learnt how fucking homophobic and heterosexist most people are.

Going from being one of the guys at work, to being maligned to the point I had to quit, simply because my boyfriend picked me up after work one day, was one hell of an eye opener. For a while I was more or less convinced there had to be something wrong with me, because it was just too unbelievable that people would react like that over who I was dating.

On a side note, the theism/atheism thing is extremely culturally dependent. If you're from Northern Europe & confess to theistic beliefs, for example, chances are people will treat you like you're diseased and/or got a mental handicap. I used to do so as well, until I realised most theists aren't weird schizo-aliens.

My wife's ex-husband came out of the closet after they'd been married for 4 years. She took it rather badly. Particularly when he moved his boyfriend into their home while she was still living there.

There is something to be said for having honest discussions about sex before you get married.

How so?
Coz he ain't gay?
And?

Ain't straight either.

If you ask yourself how sex is different from other pleasures like eating or social acclaim or the bemusement of arts in their various forms ... and you consider that for all the socially-constructed rituals of it, this comes from nothing more than the rythmic rubbing of mucous membranes ... you might just see why I find it scarey.

I prefer drugs, frankly. I can see the button I'm pushing to get the reward.

There is something to be said for having honest discussions about sex before you get married.

With your mother. *nod*

(well, at least it reduces your chances of accidentally marrying a relative.)

In 1987, 75% of people thought homosexuality was always or mostly wrong. Now 32% take this view.
WTFUK? I didn't think were were that bad...

You'll note he never said he was gay.

I'm assuming he'll come back with some sort of 'ha ha, you assumed I'm gay but I really meant I eat my toast butter side down!'

Childish, but very predictable.

Yeah, I'm probably just being mean.

I usually find Neo Art a bit too rough (or mean, if you will). But today I found myself in broad agreement with this:

Are we really expected to believe this from "hey I'm an atheist...no wait now I'm a hardcore muslim...no I'm now an agnostic republican, no wait I'm a democrat, and I'd rather give blowjobs to an entire football team than have sex with a woman but I swear I'm not gay!" Soviestan?

Please, the fact that any of you would consider a word this dolt says with even a shred of sincerity is troubling. He's changed personas so many times he's deep kimchi but with only one forum name.

... and all my posts to this thread have been in a spirit of "hey, fuck you NSG."

I don't ever want to be Soviestan. I don't want to drop in for five minutes, slap down a one-line "look at me" and have the old timers fawn over my memory. It's just bloody sad.

I will now go away for a day or two and reconsider whether dumping my shit on the forum which has enlightened and enlivened my idle months is really such a great idea.

I don't think I've ever loved so many people at the same time, and I can't think of one poster I really hate. It's been great, but I really have to bust out of here because I have a life and it won't last forever.

When I came out, it was sort of accidental. The group of friends I had at the time said they were okay with it, but they weren't, so I stopped being friends with them.
I became closer to a different group of friends, though. Ironically, my best friend now said at one point, when asked the hypothetical question of whether or not he'd be okay with a gay friend, said 'no'.Pittsburgh, gay, ... hmmm :confused: :eek:

I will now go away for a day or two and reconsider whether dumping my shit on the forum which has enlightened and enlivened my idle months is really such a great idea.

I don't think I've ever loved so many people at the same time, and I can't think of one poster I really hate. It's been great, but I really have to bust out of here because I have a life and it won't last forever.

Well you were the one who really welcomed me here when I first showed up, and I'm grateful. If you leave, there's at least one here who will miss you.

Well you were the one who really welcomed me here when I first showed up, and I'm grateful. If you leave, there's at least one here who will miss you.awww :)

Ain't straight either.

Bi as well? Wow where did everybody come form? I only heard a coulple mentions until this thread.....


I prefer drugs, frankly. I can see the button I'm pushing to get the reward.
Um......that has the possibility........to not be good.....at all........What drugs, exactly?

Pittsburgh, gay, ... hmmm :confused: :eek:


I think Pittsburgh has a pretty decent gay scene, or at least I got that idea from my grandmother and her lesbian partner who lived there for like 12 years.

I think Pittsburgh has a pretty decent gay scene, or at least I got that idea from my grandmother and her lesbian partner who lived there for like 12 years.<wonders/> ...maybe it's something I saw on tv... :) :confused:

Who's closet were you in? Tom Cruise is in my closet, but keeps saying he isn't in the closet. He won't get out so I sent John Travolta and R. Kelly into the closet after him, but they haven't come out either...

:p

I like to re-come out of the closet as bi nearly every day. It really pisses the homophobes off.

Im proud of you all. There has been a very minimal amount of gay bashing.

Im proud of you all. There has been a very minimal amount of gay bashing.

You're new here, which is the only reason that surprises you.

I like to re-come out of the closet as bi nearly every day. It really pisses the homophobes off.

And some of the gays :P

And some of the gays :P

Hmmm very true - I do love to piss those certain biphobes (?) off.

It sounds so silly to me, but whatever.

I'm sorry. I'll try to mindlessly confirm your assumptions next time. :rolleyes:

If you insist on feeling like a victim

"Insist[ing] on feeling like a victim" is when straight people whine about how gays (and bisexuals, apparently) are unfairly stealing all the attention.

Talking about coming-out experiences has nothing to do with feeling like a victim, and everything to do with dealing with a society that as a simple matter of fact remains significantly prejudiced against us.

You came out with what?

The next great English language masterpiece! Duh!

You're new here, which is the only reason that surprises you.

I guess. To me, someone coming out the closet and announcing it on an internet forum would result in the neocons and religious fundies coming on here and quoting bible verses and such.


This forum is kind of starting to restore my faith in humanity.:D

This forum is kind of starting to restore my faith in humanity.:D

Again, you're new here so...



:P

so I've decided to come out. I now honest with myself and happy so I thought I could be honest on here as well.


*sigh of relief*

Finally

This forum is kind of starting to restore my faith in humanity.:D


Man that'll change quick, this place usually trashes my faith in humanity.

Pittsburgh, gay, ... hmmm :confused: :eek:Yes, there are gays here, believe it or not. ;)

<wonders/> ...maybe it's something I saw on tv... :) :confused:Heh. No, it's nothing like Queer As Folk (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Queer_as_Folk_%28North_American_TV_series%29), and for that I am quite thankful.

Yes, there are gays here, believe it or not. ;)

Heh. No, it's nothing like Queer As Folk (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Queer_as_Folk_%28North_American_TV_series%29), and for that I am quite thankful.

You mean life isn't full of cute little blond twinks throwing themselves at you?

You mean life isn't full of cute little blond twinks throwing themselves at you?Drugged up little blond twinks, you mean. And no, it isn't.

Heh. No, it's nothing like Queer As Folk (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Queer_as_Folk_%28North_American_TV_series%29), and for that I am quite thankful.

What, you mean there are gay black people in Pittsburgh?

What, you mean there are gay black people in Pittsburgh?Lol. Yes, indeed there are.

This forum is kind of starting to restore my faith in humanity.:D
Actually, you're the only human here. The rest of us are just the creation of a very clever, Turing-proof computer.

Are we really expected to believe this from "hey I'm an atheist...no wait now I'm a hardcore muslim...no I'm now an agnostic republican, no wait I'm a democrat, and I'd rather give blowjobs to an entire football team than have sex with a woman but I swear I'm not gay!" Soviestan?

Please, the fact that any of you would consider a word this dolt says with even a shred of sincerity is troubling. He's changed personas so many times he's deep kimchi but with only one forum name.

hang on. *strains* damn, I can't do it. I tried but I really can not care less about what you think.

Actually, you're the only human here. The rest of us are just the creation of a very clever, Turing-proof computer.

Didn't you now just un-Turing proof the whole racket then?

hang on. *strains* damn, I can't do it. I tried but I really can not care less about what you think.

I did sort of say you were going to get that... a bed made is lain in.

I did sort of say you were going to get that... a bed made is lain in.

You did, and so its not a surprise but I still wanted to say my peace as it were.

wait a minute, what have you come out as?


i told my mum i was bisexual when i was 16 and she told me i was just being brainwashed by 'the media'. then we had this big heart-to-heart at the end of which, in order to stop it, i just had to say "oh yeah, i see it now, i'm actually straight", or words to that effect. she still thinks that is the case, although she did ask me a year or so ago if i was gay, but the anger and fear in her eyes was such that i just couldn't be bothered to deal with telling her the truth.

coming out to my friends of the time was easy though cuz we pretty much all came out simultaneously, those that were bi/gay i mean. coming out to more recent friends was strangely harder cuz of the lack of belief from some quarters. why would i lie, i mean really?

Actually, you're the only human here. The rest of us are just the creation of a very clever, Turing-proof computer.

Except me. I'm a hyperintelligent squirrel.

Except me. I'm a hyperintelligent squirrel.

Fucking squirrels, they get everywhere these days.

Oh for the day when people don't need to 'come out'.

There was a fairly good comedy, well it might not have been a good comedy but a good section if it, where someone is completely blind to the fact that another character is gay and that character is desperately trying to put it on the table without openly stating he's gay.

It was funny because sometimes I do feel as though some gay people, for all the complaints about being treated equally, want people to know their sexuality in the same way religious people want others to know their beliefs.

This is a very narrow interpretation and, to be fair, overall society doesn't tend to allow people to simply be whoever they are with no fuss, but I do wonder at this need to announce to everyone unless it's relevant to the conversation.

It was funny because sometimes I do feel as though some gay people, for all the complaints about being treated equally, want people to know their sexuality in the same way religious people want others to know their beliefs.

Wait, is it wrong for religious people to want others to know their beliefs?

but I do wonder at this need to announce to everyone unless it's relevant to the conversation.

Look, it's really simple: if the culture didn't perpetually closet us, we wouldn't have to perpetually announce ourselves.

You probably deserve a longer answer than this, but I need to go to sleep.

Wait, is it wrong for religious people to want others to know their beliefs?

Yes, completely.

I'm simply drawing a comparison, I don't know if it's a fair one, probably not but I find that sometimes people can't wait to tell me about their religion in the face of my really not caring. Similarly, people can preface their sentence with 'well, I'm gay so I think...' when, really, it's of no relevance and merely perpetuates this idea that we're all so different, that being gay is an aspect of your opinion on, say, the elections.

Look, it's really simple: if the culture didn't perpetually closet us, we wouldn't have to perpetually announce ourselves.

Agreed, hence I wish for the day when it didn't matter.

...and just to clear any possibility of misunderstanding, the 'yes, completely' is commenting on the either/or nature of your question when I'm more and/both, my true belief is the opposite.

There is something to be said for having honest discussions about sex before you get married.

They were Jehovas Witnesses, so maybe that had something to do with it! :p

hang on. *strains* damn, I can't do it. I tried but I really can not care less about what you think.so you're a gay muslim?

Actually, you're the only human here. The rest of us are just the creation of a very clever, Turing-proof computer.

I'm far, far worse than that. I'm an accountant.

I'm far, far worse than that. I'm an accountant.

You horrible, horrible DEMON! :eek:



More seriously, it's comforting to see so many people surviving such an ordeal. Especially painful when the parents hold the cash strings and won't hesitate to yank them if you don't follow the hetronormality they demand. Sad, really, but then again, if it isn't common, it's unknown. And if it's unknown, it's strange, wrong, and different. Therefore, it must be hated until it is understood, then it shall become self-evident and truthful. Sigh... :rolleyes:

My experience was met rather harshly when I tried to come out to my parents, and I use to have problems with it at school, but that's stopped since I went to college, thankfully.

so I've decided to come out. I now honest with myself and happy so I thought I could be honest on here as well.


Has anyone on here come out to their families or friends? how did they take it? Or has anyone close to you come out?

I believe this about as much as I believe your sudden conversion to the muslim religion. It's become painfully obvious that you are either just seeking attention or playing some kind of weird joke.

Anyway.. I did come out to my family, and they were completely fine with it. I come out to people when I get to know them enough that they won't be bothered by it.

Actually, you're the only human here. The rest of us are just the creation of a very clever, Turing-proof computer.

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What, you mean there are gay black people in Pittsburgh?
:p

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Bonus points for us. ^^

Similarly, people can preface their sentence with 'well, I'm gay so I think...' when, really, it's of no relevance

Of course being gay is a relevant fact about someone. It determines who they are attracted to, and that tends to be a rather significant fact about people's lives.

and merely perpetuates this idea that we're all so different,

Aren't we?

that being gay is an aspect of your opinion on, say, the elections.

Surely being gay can influence a person's perspective on politics? Surely, if we are concerned for the good of all, that perspective is worth taking into account?

Agreed, hence I wish for the day when it didn't matter.

While "coming out" is bound up with a society of closets, people being open and blatant about their sexual orientation, and talking about it, is not.

so I've decided to come out. I now honest with myself and happy so I thought I could be honest on here as well.


Has anyone on here come out to their families or friends? how did they take it? Or has anyone close to you come out?

Congrats to you. Respect points + 2.

One of my friends came out, Freshmen year in High School. He has more balls than all of the straight guys in my school (including me).

Who's closet were you in? Tom Cruise is in my closet, but keeps saying he isn't in the closet. He won't get out so I sent John Travolta and R. Kelly into the closet after him, but they haven't come out either...

:p

:D

Also, I have come out of the closet as an atheist. My sister outed me, my parents didn't take it well, I tried to run away... meh. My mom hates my belief system while my dad doesn't really care so much now.

so I've decided to come out. I now honest with myself and happy so I thought I could be honest on here as well.


Has anyone on here come out to their families or friends? how did they take it? Or has anyone close to you come out?

You live in a closet?