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Fred Thompson drops out of Presidential Race

New Manvir
22-01-2008, 22:30
Link (http://www.nytimes.com/2008/01/23/us/politics/23thompson.html?em&ex=1201150800&en=54f1031dc2ec5875&ei=5087%0A)

So how will this affect the Republican nomination?

I know that Colbert was saying something about Thompson stealing some of the Evangelical votes from Huckabee last night...

Thoughts?

His decision to drop out could potentially help Mike Huckabee, the former governor of Arkansas, who has competed for many of the same voters. Some Republicans suggested that Mr. Huckabee came in second in South Carolina precisely because Mr. Thompson had siphoned off much of his support, permitting Senator John McCain of Arizona to win.

But Mr. Huckabee has moved to scale back his own campaign after his South Carolina showing, and has backed away from plans to campaign heavily in Florida.

Assuming Mr. Huckabee does not reconsider, Mr. Thompson’s withdrawal could therefore be a boon for Mitt Romney of Massachusetts, who has aggressively sought to recruit Florida conservatives to his side.

Mr. Thompson had seemed to be a candidate from central casting, with his imposing height, his theatrical growl and a plain-spoken conservatism. Only last summer, he had many Republicans spinning dreams of Ronald Reagan resurrected.
Telesha
22-01-2008, 22:35
Good. For awhile I was afraid he was going to take the "most insane Republican candidate" position away from Ron Paul.
OceanDrive2
22-01-2008, 22:37
good riddance.
OceanDrive2
22-01-2008, 22:39
I know that Colbert was saying something about Thompson stealing some of the Evangelical votes from Huckabee last night...The key words from Colbert last nite: "Fred is finished"
JuNii
22-01-2008, 22:42
Good, rather watch him on Law & Order.

Tho dunno if he'ld be back on those series...
Lunatic Goofballs
22-01-2008, 22:44
One down. Now how do we get the rest of the candidates to drop out?
Lunatic Goofballs
22-01-2008, 22:45
Thank goodness. One has-been B-list actor in the White House was enough.

To be a has-been, you have to have been. He never-was. :)
Intangelon
22-01-2008, 22:45
Thank goodness. One has-been B-list actor in the White House was enough.
New Manvir
22-01-2008, 22:51
Thank goodness. One has-been B-list actor in the White House was enough.

lolz :p ... we could try getting Arnold next time...and what's with all these Republican actors? Ronald Reagan, Fred Thompson, Arnold Schwarzenegger, Charlton Heston in the NRA (It's not THE Republican part, but they're close)...Hollywood is supposed to part of the Liberal-Gay-Commie-Islamofascist-Jewish-Canadian-European-Nazi-Stonecutter-Environmental-Democratic Conspiracy

:p
Chowda25
22-01-2008, 22:55
To be a has-been, you have to have been. He never-was. :)

Woah. Don't you remember him coolly running the airport that was under attack i Die Hard II? Man, he was ice cold.
Trans Fatty Acids
22-01-2008, 22:56
Too bad. If, as the NYT says, his campaign was siphoning support that would otherwise go to Huckabee and Romney, then his dropping out is a bad thing. And he might not have been a terrible president. Romney seems a little scarier to me because he reminds me so much of Bush in 2000 -- he'll make all the noises you think he wants to hear, but everything he says has that faint ring of total inauthenticity.
The South Islands
22-01-2008, 22:58
Charlton Heston in the NRA (It's not THE Republican part, but they're close

The NRA draws support from all sides of the political spectrum.
Lunatic Goofballs
22-01-2008, 22:58
Woah. Don't you remember him coolly running the airport that was under attack i Die Hard II? Man, he was ice cold.

He did better as the Battle Group Commander in 'The Hunt For Red October'.

"The average russkie doesn't take a dump without a plan, son." Classic. :)
New Manvir
22-01-2008, 23:03
The NRA draws support from all sides of the political spectrum.

well...yeah...but it's closer to the Republicans than the Democrats...

The NRA is officially nonpartisan and has endorsed both Democrats and Republicans; however, Republicans tend to share its views more often than Democrats, and this is reflected in the large preponderance of endorsements.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/National_Rifle_Association#Past_campaigns
Dempublicents1
22-01-2008, 23:35
One theocrat out of the race. Too bad there's too many others to get rid of....
Fassitude
22-01-2008, 23:35
Who?
BackwoodsSquatches
22-01-2008, 23:42
Who?

Considering your political bent, and other factors, you can just call him "the antichrist".

On the other hand, he's far more known than any Swedish politician...
Llewdor
22-01-2008, 23:59
Thompson was my favourite candidate on the Republican side. I enjoyed his support for federalism. Now I might actually support Romney.

I think a Fred Thompson / Barack Obama race would have been really entertaining.
Sel Appa
23-01-2008, 00:11
Good riddance. He was just occupying space. He had no reason to be in the race at all.
Newer Burmecia
23-01-2008, 00:13
He had no reason to be in the race at all.
Human or Republican?
Ashmoria
23-01-2008, 00:28
wow no more conservative republicans in the race.

so will the party pick mccain over romney?

if mccain doesnt win (or almost win) florida will he have enough money to continue?
Soyut
23-01-2008, 00:33
shame, I liked him. Romeny, mccain and huckabee are all douchebags.
Fassitude
23-01-2008, 00:46
Considering your political bent, and other factors, you can just call him "the antichrist".

But what will I call my mother, then? Of course, I don't view being anti-Christ as anything bad...

On the other hand, he's far more known than any Swedish politician...

I'm sure Margot Wallström is crying herself to sleep.
Intangelon
23-01-2008, 01:11
wow no more conservative republicans in the race.

so will the party pick mccain over romney?

if mccain doesnt win (or almost win) florida will he have enough money to continue?

Huckabee's not conservative? Whoa-kay.
Siylva
23-01-2008, 01:19
shame, I liked him. Romeny, mccain and huckabee are all douchebags.

All the candidates are douchebags.:p
United Beleriand
23-01-2008, 01:28
Huckabee's not conservative? Whoa-kay.In the US presidential race everyone is conservative. The US do not have a political left, at least not in Congress.
Fudk
23-01-2008, 01:31
Theres always someone whos going to complain that somebody's "not conservative enough" in the Republican coalition, because there are too many diffrent groups who . Theres the economists, the small tax/small gov. people, the hawks/military, the evangelicles, (and a new group right now) the nativists. Lets take an example, say, McCain. The hawks/military/foregin policy champion McCain, the small tax/gov. people generally like/would support him, economists don't mind him, but hes not their first choic, but evangelicals are wary of him (although I suppose they could stand him) and nativists HATE him for proposing something that doesn't immidientley deport all 12 million living within our country. You know, something that might actually work.:D

The case with Huckabee is completley diffrent. Evangelicels champion him, Nativists used to hate him but now I guess like/might support him.(based on lack of viable options and his newley aquired stances, and in the South Romney's just not really a canidate, excluding Florida.) Hawks/Military/for. pol. are wary of him (some tolerance, but probably not the amount McCain's got among evangelicels, which itself is small), small tax/gov people and Economists HATE him. They've accused him of being an "Evangelicel Democrat)
Kedalfax
23-01-2008, 01:40
Fred Thompson drops out...
and nobody notices.
Ashmoria
23-01-2008, 01:55
Huckabee's not conservative? Whoa-kay.

he is only socially conservative. no one who promotes the fair tax is conservative.
[NS]Click Stand
23-01-2008, 02:01
I hope he throws his support behind McCain, so Romney doesn't win.
Knights of Liberty
23-01-2008, 02:07
Good.
Sel Appa
23-01-2008, 02:09
Human or Republican?

Republican.
Sel Appa
23-01-2008, 02:13
He did better as the Battle Group Commander in 'The Hunt For Red October'.

"The average russkie doesn't take a dump without a plan, son." Classic. :)

I'll have to rewatch that...
Eureka Australis
23-01-2008, 02:38
Good, rather watch him on Law & Order.

Tho dunno if he'ld be back on those series...
I am imaging the episode of 'top GOP member implicated in bombing of abortion clinic'.
Lame Bums
23-01-2008, 06:21
I'll have to rewatch that...

Oh, I will too. I never recognized Fred Thompson in movies until I saw him running for President, and then one day I was watching Die Hard 2 and was like "Hey, that's Fred Thompson..."

Doesn't matter who Fred endorses. When Tancredo dropped out, he endorsed Romney, but all his support went to Thompson instead. I think the majority of his voters will go towards Huckabee, and it will pave the way for Huckabee to win the nomination. The social-conservative wing is far larger than either the national security wing or the big business wing of the party (how many people are born-again evangelicals, again? Yeah.)

If McCain somehow wins the nomination, he will split the party in two, just like Taft and the Bull Moose in 1912.

If Huckabee wins the nomination, the only chance he has of winning is against Hillary. Too many people (myself included) will never vote for Hillary. If he's against Obama, it'll go down in flames like Barry Goldwater did.
New Granada
23-01-2008, 07:12
Don't let the door hit you, freddie.
BackwoodsSquatches
23-01-2008, 07:13
But what will I call my mother, then? Of course, I don't view being anti-Christ as anything bad...

Very well.
He stands for just about everything you hate.
A lot.



I'm sure Margot Wallström is crying herself to sleep.

Never heard of her.
However, she gets to be cool, beucase she has an umlaut.
Straughn
23-01-2008, 09:28
One down. Now how do we get the rest of the candidates to drop out?

You should opt to be their individual Monica Lewinsky's. :p
Telesha
24-01-2008, 00:11
Clinton and Romney both give me this odd sensation that if I trust them, they'll be really nice and then bite my neck and turn me into a vampire when I'm not looking.

Same here, only I don't think they'd be nice enough to do the transformation and would just leave me lying there with puncture wounds in my jugular...
Kedalfax
24-01-2008, 00:13
Too many people (myself included) will never vote for Hillary.

Me too. (Can't vote anyway, though)

Clinton and Romney both give me this odd sensation that if I trust them, they'll be really nice and then bite my neck and turn me into a vampire when I'm not looking.
Chumblywumbly
24-01-2008, 05:08
He did better as the Battle Group Commander in ‘The Hunt For Red October’.

“The average russkie doesn’t take a dump without a plan, son.” Classic. :)
Does that make Fred Thompson better or The Hunt For Red October worse?

I can’t decide...
Glorious Freedonia
24-01-2008, 05:09
Link (http://www.nytimes.com/2008/01/23/us/politics/23thompson.html?em&ex=1201150800&en=54f1031dc2ec5875&ei=5087%0A)

So how will this affect the Republican nomination?

I know that Colbert was saying something about Thompson stealing some of the Evangelical votes from Huckabee last night...

Thoughts?

I was a Thompson man. The candidates I like never seem to make it through or past the primaries. I am leaning towards Romney now.