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Coast to Coast AM (a radio show I listen to on a regular basis) has some pretty strange guest, but none of them are as strange as the self-claimed Time Travelers. The most famous one would be John Titor, a guy who claims to come back in time from the year 2036, who has come back and started making predictions, like Civil War in the US. One of the most recent Time Travelers goes by the name Steven Gibbs. A guy who claims to have invented the Hyper Dimensional Resonator, or HDR. Apparently with this device you can Astral Project, travel back and forward in time or travel to other dimension. You can buy his HDR device for about $350 (US).

Now, the tales that these "Time Travelers" tell are fascinating, and entertaining, and they make a great radio program. However, one thing that I've noticed is that so far, they haven't brought anything from any other time. I mean if they were really traveling through time, I'd like to think they'd be able to take an object and bring it back to our time. At least travel 2 to 5 days in advance and tell us the headline. Hell, anything physical to prove that it really works. At least give the device to the Scientific Community and let them test it.

is that price adjusted for future inflation?

Because maybe they're about as fake as a three dollar bill?

It's not hard to do a Nostradamus these days, what with the lack of fear of being burnt on a stake for witchcraft.

so tell us some of their stories. might as well make the thread entertaining

I time travel every once and a while ... that and telleport

Ill be drinking in the bar and all the sudden be elsewhere ... or travel through time to friends cars or couches

And some nights if it is a big party other people will telleport when I am talking to them

It sucks when I dont set my return weighpoint and get lost though ...

All we need is one revolutionary scientist to make a great discovery alone. Then say he is from the future, and using his invention as proof. Then he could make a fortune in booksales and tv appearances and maybe even get a cult.

I'm surprised more scientists don't do this.

I time travel every once and a while ... that and telleport

Ill be drinking in the bar and all the sudden be elsewhere ... or travel through time to friends cars or couches

And some nights if it is a big party other people will telleport when I am talking to them

It sucks when I dont set my return weighpoint and get lost though ...
Ah, yes, alcohol-powered time travel, very unpredictable and completely irreversible.

REALLY?

Well, because they are "entertainment". You know, just like those fortune tellers, and tarot readers and such....

Of course there are people that buy into that. Speaking of buying..I wonder how many people bought that machine?

Ah, yes, alcohol-powered time travel, very unpredictable and completely irreversible.

As is alcohol-powered penis travel, unfortunately :( :p

As is alcohol-powered penis travel, unfortunately :( :p

Don't drink and park. Accidents cause children

Coast to Coast AM (a radio show I listen to on a regular basis) has some pretty strange guest, but none of them are as strange as the self-claimed Time Travelers. The most famous one would be John Titor, a guy who claims to come back in time from the year 2036, who has come back and started making predictions, like Civil War in the US. One of the most recent Time Travelers goes by the name Steven Gibbs. A guy who claims to have invented the Hyper Dimensional Resonator, or HDR. Apparently with this device you can Astral Project, travel back and forward in time or travel to other dimension. You can buy his HDR device for about $350 (US).

Now, the tales that these "Time Travelers" tell are fascinating, and entertaining, and they make a great radio program. However, one thing that I've noticed is that so far, they haven't brought anything from any other time. I mean if they were really traveling through time, I'd like to think they'd be able to take an object and bring it back to our time. At least travel 2 to 5 days in advance and tell us the headline. Hell, anything physical to prove that it really works. At least give the device to the Scientific Community and let them test it.

You know, its disconcerting to see so many people so full of crap.

Ah, yes, alcohol-powered time travel, very unpredictable and completely irreversible.

yeah sadly you can only move forwards, and never backwards. But you have the power to completely erase events....

I time travel all the time.
So do you.
It's just we can only travel one way -- into the future -- and at the maddeningly slow pace of 24 hrs at a time...
...and there's no going back to tell yourself what the winning lottery ticket numbers will be.

yeah sadly you can only move forwards, and never backwards. But you have the power to completely erase events....

Its frigging useful around here ... went out drinking saturday and it was -22F with a 6 block walk back to the car ... teleportation was my savior!

What year is this?

Lol, hyper dimensional resonator. It's like a combination of too much Stargate and too much Half-Life.

Lol, hyper dimensional resonator. It's like a combination of too much Stargate and too much Half-Life.

I wonder if a resonance cascade is one of the risks of using the device.

(I should pretend to be a time traveler. I know enough about future technology to do a pretty damn convincing job of it, too.)

Its frigging useful around here ... went out drinking saturday and it was -22F with a 6 block walk back to the car ... teleportation was my savior!

Yeah that was useful (dangerously so).

Sadly, I did not have that ability Friday..with about a 2 block walk to my car. I now have an excruciating memory of my fingers being so frozen that I could not drive for 10 minutes.

All I'd want to know from a time traveller is if they've made robot sex slaves yet.

All I'd want to know from a time traveller is if they've made robot sex slaves yet.

Give me 15 years and $3.6 million in venture capital.

Just don't blame me when they say "no" or tell you they have a headache, because I'm going to give all of them full sapient self-awareness, both because that's the right thing to do and because I'm just a nice guy. Of course, you might not like it...but I'm a fan of not having man or machine wiped out because of this kind of stuff.

You know, I sympathized with the machines in the Animatrix, so make of that what you will.

All I'd want to know from a time traveller is if they've made robot sex slaves yet.

you mean you dont want your robots to be programmed to love you?

If it works,I will buy one.

My descendants screw with me all the time by hiding my keys and taking the last beer!

Bastards! You can't hide in time now!

If it works,I will buy one.

My descendants screw with me all the time by hiding my keys and taking the last beer!

Bastards! You can't hide in time now!

For the first time, you made me chuckle.

What year is this?

Umm all depends on which calendar you want to use.

Time travel may already exist.

This guy:
http://www.physics.uconn.edu/~mallett/main/time_travel.htm

May have developed a machine that has sent particles into forward into time.

According to Dr Mallet, it is likely not possible to travel further back in time, than the first machine to ever work. Therefore the question of "could you go back into time to kill your grandfather", is "no."

Ergo, if, Dr Mallet's machine has worked, that makes his device the first time machine, and it is now possible for future time travellers to come back, but no farther than 2005.
Its even theoretically possible that scientists using Mallet's work in the future, could send him messages, as future technology improves upon the presents'.

According to Dr Mallet, it is likely not possible to travel further back in time, than the first machine to ever work. Therefore the question of "could you go back into time to kill your grandfather", is "no."
There is one possibility. If time is actually cyclical (that is, that somewhere along the line the universe causes an earlier version of itself to come into being) then every forward travel can be expressed as a really fast backwards travel, and travelling sufficiently far forward will actually dump you in what is the dimensional equivilent of the recent past.

According to Dr Mallet, it is likely not possible to travel further back in time, than the first machine to ever work. Therefore the question of "could you go back into time to kill your grandfather", is "no."

Actually it is "not for you, but it may be for your grandchildren".
Be afraid ;)

Coast to Coast AM (a radio show I listen to on a regular basis) has some pretty strange guest, but none of them are as strange as the self-claimed Time Travelers. The most famous one would be John Titor, a guy who claims to come back in time from the year 2036, who has come back and started making predictions, like Civil War in the US. One of the most recent Time Travelers goes by the name Steven Gibbs. A guy who claims to have invented the Hyper Dimensional Resonator, or HDR. Apparently with this device you can Astral Project, travel back and forward in time or travel to other dimension. You can buy his HDR device for about $350 (US).

Now, the tales that these "Time Travelers" tell are fascinating, and entertaining, and they make a great radio program. However, one thing that I've noticed is that so far, they haven't brought anything from any other time. I mean if they were really traveling through time, I'd like to think they'd be able to take an object and bring it back to our time. At least travel 2 to 5 days in advance and tell us the headline. Hell, anything physical to prove that it really works. At least give the device to the Scientific Community and let them test it.

No, because they're travelling ASTRALLY! DUH!

:P

My time machine is near completion. It works, but there's a few kinks to work out. It'll jump 10 minutes into the future, but it takes about ten minutes to fire up.

But I'm getting closer...

Oh so it's them that create the timewarps in NSG, i always wondered. I suppose it makes sense, go forward in time then somewhere else will go backward.

I have some time circuits, but I'm having trouble getting a DeLorean to put them in.

My time machine is near completion. It works, but there's a few kinks to work out. It'll jump 10 minutes into the future, but it takes about ten minutes to fire up.
I'm hoping a future version of me will come back and teach me how to do it, myself. :D

I time travel all the time.
So do you.
It's just we can only travel one way -- into the future -- and at the maddeningly slow pace of 24 hrs at a time...
...and there's no going back to tell yourself what the winning lottery ticket numbers will be.

actually, i frequently travel back in time, sometimes very quickly. and when i do, i sometimes decide to fix something that didn't go quite right in my past. it always works. in a way.

my decision to relive my past with changes sends an alternate universe spinning into being.

at current count i've created some 86,923 alternate universes complete with 86.923 versions of me that have been improved in this way.

i don't bother with lottery numbers in any of them because i don't like gambling, but i am very wealthy in almost all of them - except for one where i chose to be an ascetic, just for the fun of it.

meanwhile i use this universe for experimental purposes. i keep a low profile here and work out what to try next.

You know, all these time travelers, they keep messing up our timeline. Isn't that against the rules?

Someone call the Temporal Patrol on their asses.

*snip* The most famous one would be John Titor, a guy who claims to come back in time from the year 2036, who has come back and started making predictions, like Civil War in the US.
*snip* However, one thing that I've noticed is that so far, they haven't brought anything from any other time. I mean if they were really traveling through time, I'd like to think they'd be able to take an object and bring it back to our time. At least travel 2 to 5 days in advance and tell us the headline. Hell, anything physical to prove that it really works. At least give the device to the Scientific Community and let them test it.

John Titor's explanation for this was the nature of the time travel itself. He stated that there are infinite dimensions that get more divergent as you travel back and forth in time. He stated that he was sent back to make a coding change in a computer system and was chosen because his grandfather was involved in the original coding change. He went to the past and that past was different than his own, because he, in effect, also crossed dimensional realities. He went forward in time (and dimensional divergence) to our time to keep a promise to his grandfather, and this dimension is different than both his original dimension and his grandfather's. When he returns to his time, its not really his original timeline, it's just very close to his own. He would then exist as a second John Titor in that timeline.

This divergence is why (in his reasoning) events that occured in his original timeline may not happen in ours.

[said all that to say this:] If John Titor is correct, then it is not possible to go two days in the future and bring back a newspaper with a headline, because that timeline would not be the same as ours, and coming back you could not return to your own timeline anyway, you'd be on a different one than you left.

Not that I believe it. ;)

I'm hoping a future version of me will come back and teach me how to do it, myself. :D

arggg, that is very confusing.
Supposing you never make your time machine yet your future self shows you how to make it from a different future would you go back in time to teach yourself again?
And which one is more you? the Future you? or the present you? i wonder if you could share thoughts without speaking, like some siamese twins. It would save loads of spending on mobile phones, mind you for some things it could be a bit (how can i put it?) horrible.

arggg, that is very confusing.
Supposing you never make your time machine yet your future self shows you how to make it from a different future would you go back in time to teach yourself again?
And which one is more you? the Future you? or the present you? i wonder if you could share thoughts without speaking, like some siamese twins. It would save loads of spending on mobile phones, mind you for some things it could be a bit (how can i put it?) horrible.
I think paradoxes can't occur. In other words, if a future me is to come back and teach a past me how to make the time machine, the present me must eventually become the future and become the teacher to (what will relatively be) the past me. Similarly, I cannot behave any differently when I become the future me to the future me that I observe in the present.

In any case, the Present me is always the most me there is. On the other hand, the Future me has his own sense of which is the present one; to him, I'd be the Past him. We are both distinct individuals, although the future me may well be able to remember what he thought when he was the present me, so some degree of temporal telepathy would be inevitable.

I think paradoxes can't occur. In other words, if a future me is to come back and teach a past me how to make the time machine, the present me must eventually become the future and become the teacher to (what will relatively be) the past me. Similarly, I cannot behave any differently when I become the future me to the future me that I observe in the present.

In any case, the Present me is always the most me there is. On the other hand, the Future me has his own sense of which is the present one; to him, I'd be the Past him. We are both distinct individuals, although the future me may well be able to remember what he thought when he was the present me, so some degree of temporal telepathy would be inevitable.

But if you accept time travel is possible backward and forward then paradox's can occur.
For example, you make a time machine and go back in time to an earlier you, but how can this be? The earlier you never saw the Future you come from a time machine, so this means if time travel backward is possible then someone will come back in time first, before we discover how to do it, and if it's you and you make the machine, things could get complicated very quickly.(erm if you've ever played soul reaver, this sort of helps, that or time splitters game helps to show my point, well sort of)

But if you accept time travel is possible backward and forward then paradox's can occur.
For example, you make a time machine and go back in time to an earlier you, but how can this be? The earlier you never saw the Future you come from a time machine, so this means if time travel backward is possible then someone will come back in time first, before we discover how to do it, and if it's you and you make the machine, things could get complicated very quickly.(erm if you've ever played soul reaver, this sort of helps, that or time splitters game helps to show my point, well sort of)
(I have played Soul Reaver & 2. The Legacy of Kain series is awesome. I disagree with its view on chronology where it's possible to change the past, but I'm more than happy to grant it literary licence)
Basically, you're right. If I have never interacted with the future me, and if I was to go back in time to interact with the past me, that would introduce a paradox. This does not, however, mean that paradoxes are possible. An alternative train of thought is that time travel is conditional on my not interacting with my past self in any way that I was not aware of when I was my past self. In other words, it is causally impossible for me to do as a backwards traveller what the future me did not in my past, if you get what I mean.

I think that the golden rule in linear/cyclical chronology is that history must remain unchanged as a result of any backwards time travel; otherwise, what you're travelling into isn't really the past. History can, however, be written as a result of backwards time travel; it just means that it was always that result of backwards time travel.