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*Drool*

NERVUN
19-01-2008, 15:39
She lives again... and she's gorgeous!
http://i15.photobucket.com/albums/a377/jusenkyoguide/star-trek-uss-enterprise-b.gif

The new trailer is here: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RllSZW_YLk8

Your thoughts?
UN Protectorates
19-01-2008, 15:43
Hopefully if they do this well, we may see a revitilisation of the ST franchise.
Novo Illidium
19-01-2008, 15:47
Hmm... I've never been that much of a fan of Star Trek, though seeing a film dealing with the very beginning, with humanity making contact with other races like Klingon and stuff, could be pretty damn interesting. Or did I misinterpret the clip? Cos wasn't the Enterprise launched well after the Federation or whatever had been set up?
Pure Metal
19-01-2008, 15:51
i liked things going forwards in ST, so going backwards isn't that exciting for me (Enterprise, this new movie, etc)... but i'll see. i might yet like it, and hopefully it will generate a revival in the franchise
Tsaphiel
19-01-2008, 15:52
Hmm... I've never been that much of a fan of Star Trek, though seeing a film dealing with the very beginning, with humanity making contact with other races like Klingon and stuff, could be pretty damn interesting. Or did I misinterpret the clip? Cos wasn't the Enterprise launched well after the Federation or whatever had been set up?

Star Trek Enterprise already ballsed up the story about first contact with the Klingons.

This film is essentially a prequel. Bad Sign.
This film is directed by J.J. Abrams. Bad Sign.
This film is an odd-numbered Trek movie. Bad Sign.

I've set my hopes to "Stun" rather than "Kill"
Gravlen
19-01-2008, 15:58
My thoughts? "Meh."

http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2079/2064864121_8e49ad22e8_o.jpg
JuNii
19-01-2008, 17:37
Star Trek Enterprise already ballsed up the story about first contact with the Klingons.

This film is essentially a prequel. Bad Sign.
This film is directed by J.J. Abrams. Bad Sign.
This film is an odd-numbered Trek movie. Bad Sign.

I've set my hopes to "Stun" rather than "Kill"

I Hate Prequels.

and yes, Enterprise fucked up the continuality.

I view the Star Trek universe as one with no continuality. where what is canon is on the whim of whos directing the lastest project.
Bolol
19-01-2008, 18:36
This may anger a lot of traditionalist Trekkers, but this one hopes that they just throw continuity and canonicity out the window. They've screwed things up so badly with Enterprise and to a lesser degree with Nemesis that it is time for a reboot a 'la Batman Begins or Casino Royale.

If they do this, stick with a more conceivable plot, and FOR THE LOVE OF GOD get good actors and actresses, this might work.
Greater Trostia
19-01-2008, 18:44
I only clicked on this thread because I thought it might involve resurrected hot chicks.
Thandryn
19-01-2008, 18:59
I only clicked on this thread because I thought it might involve resurrected hot chicks.

same lol
JuNii
19-01-2008, 19:17
This may anger a lot of traditionalist Trekkers, but this one hopes that they just throw continuity and canonicity out the window. They've screwed things up so badly with Enterprise and to a lesser degree with Nemesis that it is time for a reboot a 'la Batman Begins or Casino Royale.

If they do this, stick with a more conceivable plot, and FOR THE LOVE OF GOD get good actors and actresses, this might work.

won't work. as long as they keep showing TOS, TNG, DS9, and VOY. a reboot won't be possible.
The Alma Mater
19-01-2008, 19:19
won't work. as long as they keep showing TOS, TNG, DS9, and VOY. a reboot won't be possible.

Alternate universes. Goatees ftw.
JuNii
19-01-2008, 19:20
Alternate universes. Goatees ftw.

... now that series I would watch. the buildup of the Empire!
The Alma Mater
19-01-2008, 19:28
... now that series I would watch. the buildup of the Empire!

Pity enterprise also tainted that. But hey - not by much :)
JuNii
19-01-2008, 19:30
Pity enterprise also tainted that. But hey - not by much :)

yep. but the tain from Ent isn't enough and can easily be corrected since not much is known about the Mirror Universe.
Der Teutoniker
19-01-2008, 19:33
She lives again... and she's gorgeous!
http://i15.photobucket.com/albums/a377/jusenkyoguide/star-trek-uss-enterprise-b.gif

The new trailer is here: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RllSZW_YLk8

Your thoughts?

This (http://www.geocities.com/cannonarthur/images/stardestroyer.jpg) ship is much cooler, more gorgeous, and way more awesome!

EDIT: FTW!
Damaske
19-01-2008, 19:38
Hmm... I've never been that much of a fan of Star Trek, though seeing a film dealing with the very beginning, with humanity making contact with other races like Klingon and stuff, could be pretty damn interesting. Or did I misinterpret the clip? Cos wasn't the Enterprise launched well after the Federation or whatever had been set up?

Actually,what I am getting from their website..is this is going to be about The Original cast in their younger years.link (http://www.startrek.com/startrek/view/series/MOV/011/)

Might very well be interesting. Who knows.
The Alma Mater
19-01-2008, 19:57
This (http://www.geocities.com/cannonarthur/images/stardestroyer.jpg) ship is much cooler, more gorgeous, and way more awesome!

EDIT: FTW!

Fear my battlecrab.

http://www.b5tech.com/science/weapons/deathray/q14_shdfire_bg.jpg
Der Teutoniker
19-01-2008, 20:17
Fear my battlecrab.

http://www.b5tech.com/science/weapons/deathray/q14_shdfire_bg.jpg

Fear my Executor.

http://theforce.net/swtc/Pix/laserdisk/sw5/gathering18.jpg
Bolol
19-01-2008, 21:08
Fear my Executor.

http://theforce.net/swtc/Pix/laserdisk/sw5/gathering18.jpg

Pitiful!

Behold!
(http://warhammer.hardwired.hu/gallery/wh40k/40k_021.jpg)
Der Teutoniker
19-01-2008, 21:13
Pitiful!

Behold!
(http://warhammer.hardwired.hu/gallery/wh40k/40k_021.jpg)

I can honestly say that that is one of the coolest, stupidest things I have ever seen.

I'm not at all sure how I end up feeling about it.

Executor still pwns.
Conserative Morality
19-01-2008, 21:18
Fear this!:D
HC Eredivisie
19-01-2008, 21:27
Bah.

http://www.bwtf.com/cbreviews/dw/energon19/unicron.jpg

:)
Kyronea
19-01-2008, 21:37
She lives again... and she's gorgeous!
http://i15.photobucket.com/albums/a377/jusenkyoguide/star-trek-uss-enterprise-b.gif

The new trailer is here: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RllSZW_YLk8

Your thoughts?

My thoughts: this will be a reboot, and thus I will boycott it with every iota of strength I have. It will be an insult to Star Trek and does not deserve the name at all.
The Alma Mater
19-01-2008, 21:48
Bah.
:)

*patiently waits for Hotrodia to kill it*
Vaklavia
19-01-2008, 21:56
My thoughts: this will be a reboot, and thus I will boycott it with every iota of strength I have. It will be an insult to Star Trek and does not deserve the name at all.

LOL @ fanboy.
Mirkana
19-01-2008, 22:09
Actually, by my reckoning, the whole "odd-number" thing died with Star Trek: Generations. Remember, Insurrection was odd-numbered, while Nemesis was even-numbered.

I will see it before making any judgements.

Unless Enterprise is stricken from canon (which I hope isn't done - not only did I like Enterprise, but so did my immediate family) first contact with the Klingons isn't an option. It's likely that the humans first learned of the Klingons from the Vulcans. For all I know, the first contact between a human and a Klingon happened when a human freighter captain and a Klingon merchant met on Draylax IV and did some business.

As for cool ships, you can't beat the Ragnarok (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CNu7vmSNHWU).
Bolol
19-01-2008, 22:19
while I didn't see Nemesis, Insurrection was pretty bad.

"Manuel steering column"?

infact, the TOS movies (with the exception of V) were better than the TNG movies.

Generations was ish, First Contact was good, Insurrection was not so much, and Nemesis was bad.

EDIT: Actually, scratch that. Insurrection sucked just as much as Nemesis did.
JuNii
19-01-2008, 22:20
Actually, by my reckoning, the whole "odd-number" thing died with Star Trek: Generations. Remember, Insurrection was odd-numbered, while Nemesis was even-numbered.

I will see it before making any judgements.

Unless Enterprise is stricken from canon (which I hope isn't done - not only did I like Enterprise, but so did my immediate family) first contact with the Klingons isn't an option. It's likely that the humans first learned of the Klingons from the Vulcans. For all I know, the first contact between a human and a Klingon happened when a human freighter captain and a Klingon merchant met on Draylax IV and did some business.

As for cool ships, you can't beat the Ragnarok (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CNu7vmSNHWU).
while I didn't see Nemesis, Insurrection was pretty bad.

"Manuel steering column"?

infact, the TOS movies (with the exception of V) were better than the TNG movies.
Der Teutoniker
19-01-2008, 22:21
while I didn't see Nemesis, Insurrection was pretty bad.

"Manuel steering column"?


Well, see, what you seem to not understand is that it of course makes sense that one should pilot a very large Capital ship in the same way that one pilots smaller craft/snubfighters. It's the same reason the large tankers (IRL) handle, move, and are controlled in a very similar fasion to small personal speedboats. *nods*

[/sarcasm]

Yeah, that scene was pretty ridiculous.
Straughn
19-01-2008, 22:34
http://memory-alpha.org/en/images/d/de/USS_Relativity.jpg
Any of that in this episode?
*shudders*
JuNii
20-01-2008, 01:24
Fear my Executor.

http://theforce.net/swtc/Pix/laserdisk/sw5/gathering18.jpg

yep... really really fearing it.
http://img237.imageshack.us/img237/1817/rotj130xe7.jpg

btw... what happened to bring it down? a fighter crashing into the bridge? I see only two heavily damaged areas... :p
Der Teutoniker
20-01-2008, 01:36
yep... really really fearing it.
http://img237.imageshack.us/img237/1817/rotj130xe7.jpg

btw... what happened to bring it down? a fighter crashing into the bridge? I see only two heavily damaged areas... :p

The deflector shields had only recently gone down... imagine the power the must have (why underpower shields on such a gargantuan and expensive piece of military equipment?)

Which is why the A-Wing was able to crash into the Bridge.

In fact, the only damage I knew of was to the sensor globe (that we see explode right before the deflector shields simultaneously go down), and of course, the bridge explosion itseld, I did not know it had what appear to be engine problems as well.
Steely Glintt
20-01-2008, 01:43
The deflector shields had only recently gone down... imagine the power the must have (why underpower shields on such a gargantuan and expensive piece of military equipment?)

Which is why the A-Wing was able to crash into the Bridge.

In fact, the only damage I knew of was to the sensor globe (that we see explode right before the deflector shields simultaneously go down), and of course, the bridge explosion itseld, I did not know it had what appear to be engine problems as well.

I always thought the globes were shield generators?
Der Teutoniker
20-01-2008, 02:14
I always thought the globes were shield generators?

A very common misconception. The globes are actually the main sensors. As is reasonable the deflector shield generators are actually located inside, rather than the most prominent, and exposed position possibly imaginable.

A lot of people get the impression from the fact that an A-Wing flies in, and shoots the Sensor globe, immediately thereafter it cuts to an Imperial Officer stating that the deflector shields have failed... also I believe non-canon literature of various sorts encouraged the idea.
Mirkana
20-01-2008, 02:29
while I didn't see Nemesis, Insurrection was pretty bad.

"Manuel steering column"?

infact, the TOS movies (with the exception of V) were better than the TNG movies.

I personally liked Insurrection. Why? Well, the Enterprise crew kicked ass. And I don't care about the manual steering column. It was stupid, but Riker's attitude more than made up for it.
Kyronea
20-01-2008, 03:13
LOL @ fanboy.

EXCUSE ME?!

That is Trekkie, thank you very much, not fanboy! ;)
Big Jim P
21-01-2008, 04:12
EXCUSE ME?!

That is Trekkie, thank you very much, not fanboy! ;)

*cough*"Trekker"*cough*
Straughn
21-01-2008, 04:54
I personally liked Insurrection. Why? Well, the Enterprise crew kicked ass. And I don't care about the manual steering column. It was stupid, but Riker's attitude more than made up for it.

Liked it hella better than Nemesis. Seriously.
Saxnot
21-01-2008, 05:45
Fucking rock.:D
Kyronea
21-01-2008, 05:48
*cough*"Trekker"*cough*

Trekkie, damn you! :D
Bolol
21-01-2008, 07:00
Hey guys, suddenly my faith in this movie has gone up. Variety reports that Simon Pegg is going to be playing Scotty.

http://www.variety.com/article/VR1117973913.html?categoryid=13&cs=1

And if you don't know who Simon Pegg (http://www.imdb.com/name/nm0670408/) is...well, he's the guy who played in Shaun of the Dead and Hot Fuzz, if that is any indication.
Sel Appa
21-01-2008, 07:25
Star Trek? Wow i thought this was something worthwhile...What are they up to Star Trek 25?
Imperial isa
21-01-2008, 08:17
Fear my Executor.

http://theforce.net/swtc/Pix/laserdisk/sw5/gathering18.jpg
l believe star trek has a ship bigger then that , from what i'am recalling from a scale image i saw
Pitiful!

Behold!
(http://warhammer.hardwired.hu/gallery/wh40k/40k_021.jpg)

cool
Bolol
21-01-2008, 08:24
l believe star trek has a ship bigger then that , from what i'am recalling from a scale image i saw

The Executor, the Super Star Destroyer pictured above, measures in at 19 kilometers long. The biggest ship in the Star Trek universe I can think of is the Borg Cube, which has a volume of 28 square kilometers (slightly over 3 kilometers long from whichever way you look at it).

Though the Cube is still bigger than the standard Imperial-II Class Star Destroyer (measuring in at 1.6 Kilometers long), and may or may not have more of 'em, I think The Executor has Star Trek beat in terms of sheer SIZE. :D

cool

Thank you!
Straughn
21-01-2008, 08:44
The Executor, the Super Star Destroyer pictured above, measures in at 19 kilometers long. The biggest ship in the Star Trek universe I can think of is the Borg Cube, which has a volume of 28 square kilometers (slightly over 3 kilometers long from whichever way you look at it).

Though the Cube is still bigger than the standard Imperial-II Class Star Destroyer (measuring in at 1.6 Kilometers long), and may or may not have more of 'em, I think The Executor has Star Trek beat in terms of sheer SIZE. :D
Ayup.
Bolol
21-01-2008, 08:46
Ayup.

Think what you will sir; I am proud of my geekiness. :p
Straughn
21-01-2008, 08:47
Think what you will sir; I am proud of my geekiness. :p

Au contraire, i applaud it. Excelsior!
*bows*
Bolol
21-01-2008, 08:49
Au contraire, i applaud it. Excelsior!
*bows*

Yeeah BOYEE!

*crushes can over head*
Big Jim P
21-01-2008, 08:53
Trekkie, damn you! :D

*cough*Geekfight!*cough*:p

Damn us both!:D
Imperial isa
21-01-2008, 08:55
The Executor, the Super Star Destroyer pictured above, measures in at 19 kilometers long. The biggest ship in the Star Trek universe I can think of is the Borg Cube, which has a volume of 28 square kilometers (slightly over 3 kilometers long from whichever way you look at it).

Though the Cube is still bigger than the standard Imperial-II Class Star Destroyer (measuring in at 1.6 Kilometers long), and may or may not have more of 'em, I think The Executor has Star Trek beat in terms of sheer SIZE. :D

V'Ger from Star Trek: The Motion Picture


Thank you!

your welcome
Indri
21-01-2008, 09:02
Don't forget the cheese (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=30Coklq_pA0).

I'll see it but I don't think it's going to be all that good. 5 is still the worst but 10 is up there for trying to shit all over itself and the loyal audience so many times. 2, 3, and 4 were strung together nicely and along with 6, and 8 were great. 1, 7, and 9 were good. 5 felt more like a spoof than a serious Trek. 10...didn't even have that but it was still better than 5.

I'm not a fan of prequels even if this will give us a new look at a highly detailed version of the original Enterprise. I'll see it, I'll buy it, but I may not like it.

Oh, I just had a thought. Why are there no movies about the Mirror Universe? TOS and Enterprise handled it well and i really would have liked to see TNG in a different light.
Bolol
21-01-2008, 09:06
V'Ger from Star Trek: The Motion Picture

V'ger was more of a gigantic amorphous cloud meets Unicron, and after Star Trek: The Motion Picture, we never heard from it again.

But you're right. 'Twas hueg.

your welcome

Oi. And with that, I needs sleep. G'night.
Straughn
21-01-2008, 09:07
V'Ger from Star Trek: The Motion Picture
OOOOoh, good point. *bows*


http://www.barbeefilm.com/images/Vger_scan02.JPG
http://www.gapersblock.com/detour/gfx/06092003_door.jpg
http://www.space.com/images/h_in_vger_03.jpg
JuNii
21-01-2008, 18:07
A very common misconception. The globes are actually the main sensors. As is reasonable the deflector shield generators are actually located inside, rather than the most prominent, and exposed position possibly imaginable.

A lot of people get the impression from the fact that an A-Wing flies in, and shoots the Sensor globe, immediately thereafter it cuts to an Imperial Officer stating that the deflector shields have failed... also I believe non-canon literature of various sorts encouraged the idea.

*The point was that one fighter took it down.* :D

also, it's not inconceivable that the Sheild Generator be in a prominent location outside the ship due to the amount of energy it has to project.

I personally liked Insurrection. Why? Well, the Enterprise crew kicked ass. And I don't care about the manual steering column. It was stupid, but Riker's attitude more than made up for it.

yep... shooting down remote drones that are smaller than swallows with phasers that old men can dodge...

those remotes flying low enough to be batted out of the sky...

and speaking of Riker's attitude... ever wonder why he was the only one STILL in uniform when they were deciding to disobey orders?

V'ger was more of a gigantic amorphous cloud meets Unicron, and after Star Trek: The Motion Picture, we never heard from it again.

well, it did 'evolve'. who knows what it is now...
Upper Nowhereseville
21-01-2008, 18:16
The thing I liked most about Star Trek in it's many guises is one idea, " United Earth" !!!. Think about that one for a while.
Der Teutoniker
21-01-2008, 18:25
*The point was that one fighter took it down.* :D

also, it's not inconceivable that the Sheild Generator be in a prominent location outside the ship due to the amount of energy it has to project.


Well, one fighter... after minutes of fire from ~ a dozen capital starships, not the least were the Mon Calimari Star Cruisers, which are notable for their ability to drain shield quickly. Also, I believe it would have several banks of shield generators, I'm not sure where they are on the Executor, assumably the generators themselves would be in multiple spots for good coverage, but on a standard ISD they are located inside the ship.

I assume that after minutes of such a heavy barrage the forward shielding jsut got battered down.
Der Teutoniker
21-01-2008, 18:28
l believe star trek has a ship bigger then that , from what i'am recalling from a scale image i saw

Sorry, this (http://www.ttancm.com/2006/08/24/sci-fi-starship-size-comparison-chart/) is an accurate scale. Star Wars wins.
Kyronea
21-01-2008, 18:37
Sorry, this (http://www.ttancm.com/2006/08/24/sci-fi-starship-size-comparison-chart/) is an accurate scale. Star Wars wins.

Note the origin of the picture: Star Trek Minutiae. I find that amusing.

Anyway, I'm not going to get into an argument here. My Vs's days are long behind me. (Though when I was a Vs's person I always supported Darkstar...)
Domici
21-01-2008, 18:45
The new trailer is here: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RllSZW_YLk8

Your thoughts?

I totally lost interest after they killed off Data.
Mott Haven
21-01-2008, 18:47
The Enterprise is WELDED??

Isn't that a bit like assembling a space shuttle with hammer and nails?
Bolol
21-01-2008, 19:15
Sorry, this (http://www.ttancm.com/2006/08/24/sci-fi-starship-size-comparison-chart/) is an accurate scale. Star Wars wins.

Actually according to those numbers, V'ger wins over all.

BUT!

If we're going to include V'ger and a gigantic whale (probe) in the hueg category. Then perhaps we should also include the Death Stars with the original coming in at 160 km in diameter.

But that's nothing.

The guys at ILM, having no time on their hands, did some scaling work after watching Return of the Jedi, and found that if the eye is to be believed, then Death Star II should measure in at a whopping 900+ kilometers in diameter.

V'ger fails...miserably.

You know what? I'm going to go one step further.

Independence Day. The mothership. Not those city sized things, THE mothership. Early in the movie they stated it was 1/4 the size of our moon. Doing the math, that would mean it's more than 90,000 km in diameter...stupefying to be sure.

But then again, that ginormous muther was brought down by two monkeys and a low-yield tactical nuke, so you can imagine how well built that thing was...Government work for ya'.
JuNii
21-01-2008, 19:27
Well, one fighter... after minutes of fire from ~ a dozen capital starships, not the least were the Mon Calimari Star Cruisers, which are notable for their ability to drain shield quickly. Also, I believe it would have several banks of shield generators, I'm not sure where they are on the Executor, assumably the generators themselves would be in multiple spots for good coverage, but on a standard ISD they are located inside the ship.

I assume that after minutes of such a heavy barrage the forward shielding jsut got battered down.
yet the only extensive damage was to two areas.
Imperial isa
21-01-2008, 20:49
Sorry, this (http://www.ttancm.com/2006/08/24/sci-fi-starship-size-comparison-chart/) is an accurate scale. Star Wars wins.

swing and a miss you still wrong i read those and V'ger bigger then ships in star wars
Infinite Revolution
21-01-2008, 21:00
fuck man, i thought this was gunna be a thread about some fucking awesome car or bike that you'd restored and put back on the road. now that would have been cool.
New new nebraska
21-01-2008, 21:07
Its not gorgeous. The one from Star Trek Enterprise was. Good series. Gonna see the new Trek movie when it comes out.
JuNii
21-01-2008, 21:14
you know... if they are going to do a prequel, they should do a prequel.

instead of Kirk, have Christopher Pike.

We know Spock was Science Officer. and they had a female first officer...

but really. all we would know is that Spock survives to be first officer under Kirk. We heard how Pike was injured (and I believe that was after he retired from starfleet) but what of the other crew members, what of their adventures.
Infinite Revolution
21-01-2008, 21:18
...There is no way in Hell that a car could be any cooler than the USS. Enterprise.

So nyah.

...




fucking trekkies :rolleyes:


:p:D


edit: fucking timewarps and all.
Bolol
21-01-2008, 21:20
fuck man, i thought this was gunna be a thread about some fucking awesome car or bike that you'd restored and put back on the road. now that would have been cool.

...There is no way in Hell that a car could be any cooler than the USS. Enterprise.

So nyah.
Bolol
21-01-2008, 21:31
...




fucking trekkies :rolleyes:


:p:D


edit: fucking timewarps and all.

The only thing worse than space nerds are auto nerds, my friend.

That Ferarri may go zero to sixty in nothing flat, but my space dreadnought can tear ass at Ludicrous Speed (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HB7tc9pVvYg).

STICK THAT IN YUR PIPE! :D
Infinite Revolution
21-01-2008, 21:34
hehe! i saw that for the first time recently, quality! :D

ferraris are boring, only nancy-ass footballers drive ferraris. TVRs are what i'm talking about. :p
Bolol
21-01-2008, 22:16
hehe! i saw that for the first time recently, quality! :D

ferraris are boring, only nancy-ass footballers drive ferraris. TVRs are what i'm talking about. :p

*Wikis TVR*

Hmm...they seem like they know what they're doing. They've got history too.

*Wikis latest model*

Ooh. That IS lovely. Damn fast too. :)
Neo Bretonnia
21-01-2008, 22:17
Well, one fighter... after minutes of fire from ~ a dozen capital starships, not the least were the Mon Calimari Star Cruisers, which are notable for their ability to drain shield quickly. Also, I believe it would have several banks of shield generators, I'm not sure where they are on the Executor, assumably the generators themselves would be in multiple spots for good coverage, but on a standard ISD they are located inside the ship.

I assume that after minutes of such a heavy barrage the forward shielding jsut got battered down.

Not to mention that when the spherical structure was destroyed it probably had a severe effect on the forward deflectors just by virtue of its proximity.

The whole misunderstanding regarding the nature of those structures came from some sloppy editing in RotJ. The sequence is:

-Ackbar orders all firepower to be concentrated on the Super Star Destroyer
-A few Rebel fighters fire upon the port side large spherical structure at the top of the Executor.
-The structure explodes violently (possibly taking one of the fighters with it.)
-A bridge officer on Executor reports that the bridge deflector screens are down.
-Admiral Piett orders forward batteries to intensify fire to compensate for the loss of the deflector, in the hope of preventing Rebel ships from getting close enough to attack the unprotected bridge directly.
- A Rebel A-Wing successfully penetrates the barrage and rams the bridge of Executor, which subsequently goes out of control and collides with the Death Star.

This has given rise to the conclusion that the spherical structure WAS the bridge deflector generator. This misconception has been further reinforced by the LucasArts game X-Wing which conclusively refers to the spherical structures as the shield generators, including the domelike shape on the ventral hull of the standard ISD. In some missions the player must attack these targets to bring down the shields on the Star Destroyer to subsequently destroy it.

In fact, production notes as well as statements from the FX people indicate that these spherical structures are NOT shield generators. It would have made more sense to have edited the film such that the shields went down THEN the sphere is destroyed. (But again, the explosion itself may have disabled the bridge deflector due to its proximity.)

More likely, they're some sort of sensor array analogous to the radar towers on present day warships. It would make little sense for a shield generator to protect the whole ship -- except for itself!

/geek mode
Infinite Revolution
21-01-2008, 22:35
*Wikis TVR*

Hmm...they seem like they know what they're doing. They've got history too.

*Wikis latest model*

Ooh. That IS lovely. Damn fast too. :)

yup, and they have the best engine and exhaust note of any car i've encountered. they fucking roar :D
Bolol
21-01-2008, 22:48
yup, and they have the best engine and exhaust note of any car i've encountered. they fucking roar :D

Fascinating...

[/Spock] :P
Infinite Revolution
21-01-2008, 22:49
:p
Majority 12
21-01-2008, 22:58
Note the origin of the picture: Star Trek Minutiae. I find that amusing.

Anyway, I'm not going to get into an argument here. My Vs's days are long behind me. (Though when I was a Vs's person I always supported Darkstar...)

It's great fun to jump into a vs. argument with the line 'THE IMPERIUM OF MAN WOULD TROUNCE THEM BOTH'.
Bolol
21-01-2008, 23:02
It's great fun to jump into a vs. argument with the line 'THE IMPERIUM OF MAN WOULD TROUNCE THEM BOTH'.

Because they WOULD!

Do I need to show you the battleship again? I'll do it. You just watch.Beware the alien, the mutant, the heretic.
Hydesland
21-01-2008, 23:06
Wait, I could have sworn I saw this trailer ages ago. Like when watching Die Hard 4 at the cinema.
Majority 12
21-01-2008, 23:06
Oh FUCK YES space cathedrals!
NERVUN
22-01-2008, 03:56
*Snip*
But think about this one for a second, a fighter rams into the main bridge in SPACE and for some reason this causes the ship to do a nosedive, again, in SPACE, into the Death Star.

Did the Empire never hear of auxiliary control or something?
Imperial isa
22-01-2008, 05:45
But think about this one for a second, a fighter rams into the main bridge in SPACE and for some reason this causes the ship to do a nosedive, again, in SPACE, into the Death Star.

Did the Empire never hear of auxiliary control or something?

read that made me think of this


"our newest ship have the newest auxiliary control systems"

"Whats auxiliary control ? "

"say what you don't know what auxiliary control is ?"

"first time ive heard of it, so tell me what is it"

"now i see why a group of teenagers are kicking your ass in your war"
Amor Pulchritudo
22-01-2008, 12:05
She lives again... and she's gorgeous!
http://i15.photobucket.com/albums/a377/jusenkyoguide/star-trek-uss-enterprise-b.gif

The new trailer is here: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RllSZW_YLk8

Your thoughts?

Nerds. are. so. sexy.
St Edmund
22-01-2008, 12:17
You want super-powerful, huge spaceships?
Read E.E. 'Doc' Smith's works, especially the 'Skylark' series (although the 'Galactic Patrol' [or 'Lensman'] series is also very entertaining...).
Bolol
22-01-2008, 15:34
But think about this one for a second, a fighter rams into the main bridge in SPACE and for some reason this causes the ship to do a nosedive, again, in SPACE, into the Death Star.

Did the Empire never hear of auxiliary control or something?

Okay, here's a possible explanation.

As I stated earlier, Death Star II had a diameter greater than 900 km. Anything that big has to have a sizable amount of tug through sheer gravity.

What could have occurred is that the Executor's auxiliary controls did not have the time to power up between when the bridge was hit, to when it impacted with the Death Star.

ALSO:

Sometimes realism and practicality must be sacrificed for the sake of glorious explosions. :D