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Tom Cruise has appeared in a video (http://youtube.com/watch?v=fz0ks5CSsx4), which has somehow found its way to youtube, extolling the virtues of Scientology. He claims that, among other things, only a Scientologist can help at a car accident, and that he wouldn't hesitate to 'put ethics' on someone else. Further, Scientology are the authorities on getting people off drugs and the mind(which is odd since they oppose the practice of psychiatry) AND rehabilitating criminals.

If you don't feel like watching all 9 minutes of this propaganda, Sky News has cut together this extract (http://video.news.sky.com/skynews/video/?&videoSourceID=1300921&flashURL=/feeds/skynews/latest/flash/cruise_scientology_160108.flv).

I for one am greatly amused by this. I mean, do they really think that anyone will buy this whole 'Scientologists are superheroes' silliness? One can only assume that it's meant to be an in-house video for new recruits or something.

Here's what I want to know:

Was Tom Cruise always this crazy, and he just kept it under wraps, or has he become more crazy over time?

Like anyone cares what that little faggot thinks.

Here's what I want to know:

Was Tom Cruise always this crazy, and he just kept it under wraps, or has he become more crazy over time?

My guess is that Scientology gave him a socially acceptable(well, in his mind) outlet for his crazy.

Here's what I want to know:

Was Tom Cruise always this crazy, and he just kept it under wraps, or has he become more crazy over time?

Money corrupts.... And the more money you have, the more you become corrupted...

People tend to go nuts when they have more money than they know what to do with... Scientology is the ultimate end to it, where people pay to attend their own brainwashing sessions.

Tom Cruise is a complete fool if he truly truly believes this.

Sure they help avoid accidents... isn't that one feature of Cruise Control?

Sure they help avoid accidents... isn't that one feature of Cruise Control?

http://joke.popey.com/joke.jpg
Ba dum tish

Here's what I want to know:

Was Tom Cruise always this crazy, and he just kept it under wraps, or has he become more crazy over time?

He didnt used to be crazy, he was just cute dopey young and impressionable. Unlimited wealth and Scientology and the fact there is noone to tell him hes being a dope caused this situation.

Sure they help avoid accidents... isn't that one feature of Cruise Control?

LMAO!!

*groan*

I know, I know... my BF is a bad influence on me. I'd say one MAJOR difference between Britain and Germany is that in Britain, puns like this are considered the height of funny... :(

Sure they help avoid accidents... isn't that one feature of Cruise Control?

*groan*

He didnt used to be crazy, he was just cute dopey young and impressionable. Unlimited wealth and Scientology and the fact there is noone to tell him hes being a dope caused this situation.
Yeah, but he has been unlimitedly wealthy and a member of Scientology for decades, so that explanation doesn't exactly cut it, does it? :p

Some people say the reason that CrazyTom appeared two years ago was that he had ascended to the uppermost ranks of Scientology thetan-rankings and learned about the REAL crazy shit like the aliens chained to volcanoes and his own new abilities of, say, teleportation. Maybe that's what he tried on Oprah's couch.

I know, I know... my BF is a bad influence on me. I'd say one MAJOR difference between Britain and Germany is that in Britain, puns like this are considered the height of funny... :(

Aw, no, it made me chuckle alright - but chuckle AND roll my eyes at the same time. :p

He claims that, among other things, only a Scientologist can help at a car accident

Here's where the scientific method helps.

1: Hypothesis. Only scientologists can help at a car accident
2: Test. Run Tom Cruise over with a car.
3: Observation. Scientologists may or may not help Tom Cruise. If only Scientologists help, and Tom Cruise survives, do:
4: Test falsifiability of hypothesis. Sample size of 100 should be sufficient.

:p

Oh, about the video: Anyone remember that Tom Cruise has helped at the scenes of at least two car accidents in the last few years? Does his Scientology radar make him seek them out?
Did he really? I did not know of this. You have to wonder what he could do, aside from get in the way.

Anyway, I take exception to the "A Scientologist would stop and help, not like all those heathen people." The fuck? Then again, if Scientology makes you be responsible and not a total antisocial fucktard, that's finally one aspect of it I could get behind. Well, if it didn't come with the rest of the package, that is.

I guess there must be a lot of Scientologist paramedics.

Oh, about the video: Anyone remember that Tom Cruise has helped at the scenes of at least two car accidents in the last few years? Does his Scientology radar make him seek them out?

Anyway, I take exception to the "A Scientologist would stop and help, not like all those heathen people." The fuck? Then again, if Scientology makes you be responsible and not a total antisocial fucktard, that's finally one aspect of it I could get behind. Well, if it didn't come with the rest of the package, that is.

He claims that, among other things, only a Scientologist can help at a car accident
Oh, just because this seems to be a halfway serious OP: he pretty clearly meant "you're the only who can help because you're the only one who's there", not "because only Scientologists can help at a car accident".

Oh, just because this seems to be a halfway serious OP: he pretty clearly meant "you're the only who can help because you're the only one who's there", not "because only Scientologists can help at a car accident".
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I'm just going to go over here now........
*flees*

Okay, I just watched the long version (the "fixed one", whatever that means: http://youtube.com/watch?v=nSYEk0QnkGw)
and the part where he talks about SPs (Suppressive Persons, i.e. anyone who is critical of Scientology) just scares me. To think they even have a term for that (I knew they had but have never heard anyone actually use it when speaking) and use it like that, plain scary . Even scarier: that nobody apparently dares to ever voice anything critical around Tom Cruise. Ack!

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I'm just going to go over here now........
*flees*

Oh. I thought you had done it on purpose. :p

Sure they help avoid accidents... isn't that one feature of Cruise Control?

OMG

huh ok i know who i'am blaming this on

Here's where the scientific method helps.

1: Hypothesis. Only scientologists can help at a car accident
2: Test. Run Tom Cruise over with a car.
3: Observation. Scientologists may or may not help Tom Cruise. If only Scientologists help, and Tom Cruise survives, do:
4: Test falsifiability of hypothesis. Sample size of 100 should be sufficient.

:p:D sample size of 100?

Beware, the Evil Dark Lord Xenu will punish you all for your disobedience of the Holy Laws of Scientology!

Here's what I want to know:

Was Tom Cruise always this crazy, and he just kept it under wraps, or has he become more crazy over time?

The lunatic is on the grass.
The lunatic is on the grass.
Remembering games and daisy chains and laughs.
Got to keep the loonies on the path.

The lunatic is in the hall.
The lunatics are in my hall.
The paper holds their folded faces to the floor
And every day the paper boy brings more.

And if the dam breaks open many years too soon
And if there is no room upon the hill
And if your head explodes with dark forebodings too
I'll see you on the dark side of the moon.

The lunatic is in my head.
The lunatic is in my head
You raise the blade, you make the change
You re-arrange me 'til I'm sane.
You lock the door
And throw away the key
There's someone in my head but it's not me.

And if the cloud bursts, thunder in your ear
You shout and no one seems to hear.
And if the band you're in starts playing different tunes
I'll see you on the dark side of the moon.

"I can't think of anything to say except...
I think it's marvelous! HaHaHa!"

Further, Scientology are the authorities on getting people off drugs and the mind(which is odd since they oppose the practice of psychiatry) AND rehabilitating criminals.
That is technically correct - cults are great at reprogramming people.

All that talking... and he didn't actually say anything...

I loved the Mission: Impossible music tho...

Tom Cruise has appeared in a video (http://youtube.com/watch?v=fz0ks5CSsx4), which has somehow found its way to youtube, extolling the virtues of Scientology. He claims that, among other things, only a Scientologist can help at a car accident, and that he wouldn't hesitate to 'put ethics' on someone else. Further, Scientology are the authorities on getting people off drugs and the mind(which is odd since they oppose the practice of psychiatry) AND rehabilitating criminals.

If you don't feel like watching all 9 minutes of this propaganda, Sky News has cut together this extract (http://video.news.sky.com/skynews/video/?&videoSourceID=1300921&flashURL=/feeds/skynews/latest/flash/cruise_scientology_160108.flv).

I for one am greatly amused by this. I mean, do they really think that anyone will buy this whole 'Scientologists are superheroes' silliness? One can only assume that it's meant to be an in-house video for new recruits or something.

http://www.thebudgetfashionista.com/images/koolAidPacketGrape.gif

Quick, get the Kool-Aid.

Here's what I want to know:

Was Tom Cruise always this crazy, and he just kept it under wraps, or has he become more crazy over time?It's been clear to me since Top Gun that TC is a complete and utter waste of oxygen.

its weird how Scientology and terrible acting go hand in hand

I guess there must be a lot of Scientologist paramedics.

scary thing is Scientologists seem to be everywhere, the police force especially

Mom, Tom Cruise won't come out of the closet!

I mean, do they really think that anyone will buy this whole 'Scientologists are superheroes' silliness?

Why not? If so many people can believe an imaginary Jewish carpenter is one, then...

Mom, Tom Cruise won't come out of the closet!

Why am I seeing a Family Guy scene in my head whenever I read that?

"Mom, Tom Cruise won't come out of the closet!"

"What, dear?"

*Tom Cruise falls onto the floor, gets up, and jumps through a window to escape*

How does he keep getting out of his pen? I thought they were only allowed to let him out to act in sub-par movies.

Why not? If so many people can believe an imaginary Jewish carpenter is one, then...

but carpenters are superheroes silly ;)

Why am I seeing a Family Guy scene in my head whenever I read that?I'd like to know as well, seeing as the whole closet thing was Southpark Special that ended up alienating Isaac "Chef" Hayes.

I'd like to know as well, seeing as the whole closet thing was Southpark Special that ended up alienating Isaac "Chef" Hayes.

Stopped watching South Park well before that episode.

Why am I seeing a Family Guy scene in my head whenever I read that?
Because you don't watch South Park.

Why not? If so many people can believe an imaginary Jewish carpenter is one, then...

http://bilder.vgb.no/1760/img_4400a40f5fcf0.jpg

:D

Because you don't watch South Park.

You say that like it's a bad thing.

Scientology are the authorities on getting people off drugs and the mind(which is odd since they oppose the practice of psychiatry) AND rehabilitating criminals.



that's hilarious!

WTF is LOH technology and how do I find an SP (suppressive person) to use it on?

It's been clear to me since Top Gun that TC is a complete and utter waste of oxygen.What ?
Top Gun kicked ass

Tom Cruise has appeared in a video (http://youtube.com/watch?v=fz0ks5CSsx4), which has somehow found its way to youtube, extolling the virtues of Scientology. He claims that, among other things, only a Scientologist can help at a car accident, and that he wouldn't hesitate to 'put ethics' on someone else. Further, Scientology are the authorities on getting people off drugs and the mind(which is odd since they oppose the practice of psychiatry) AND rehabilitating criminals.

If you don't feel like watching all 9 minutes of this propaganda, Sky News has cut together this extract (http://video.news.sky.com/skynews/video/?&videoSourceID=1300921&flashURL=/feeds/skynews/latest/flash/cruise_scientology_160108.flv).

I for one am greatly amused by this. I mean, do they really think that anyone will buy this whole 'Scientologists are superheroes' silliness? One can only assume that it's meant to be an in-house video for new recruits or something.

A friend of mine got sucked into Co$ several years ago. He was quite the gullible sort, so I wouldn't put it past people to believe in that sort of BS.

Here's a transcript: http://www.rapideyereality.com/2008/01/tom-cruise-scientology-indoctrination.html

Here's what I want to know:

Was Tom Cruise always this crazy, and he just kept it under wraps, or has he become more crazy over time?

Scientology makes people crazy. Seriously.


Some people say the reason that CrazyTom appeared two years ago was that he had ascended to the uppermost ranks of Scientology thetan-rankings and learned about the REAL crazy shit like the aliens chained to volcanoes

Indeed.

and his own new abilities of, say, teleportation. Maybe that's what he tried on Oprah's couch.

LOL Teleport, Tom! Teleport!

Here's where the scientific method helps.

1: Hypothesis. Only scientologists can help at a car accident
2: Test. Run Tom Cruise over with a car.
3: Observation. Scientologists may or may not help Tom Cruise. If only Scientologists help, and Tom Cruise survives, do:
4: Test falsifiability of hypothesis. Sample size of 100 should be sufficient.

:p

Remember this is a social science experement, so a much larger sample wil be needed.

Okay, I just watched the long version (the "fixed one", whatever that means: http://youtube.com/watch?v=nSYEk0QnkGw)
and the part where he talks about SPs (Suppressive Persons, i.e. anyone who is critical of Scientology) just scares me. To think they even have a term for that (I knew they had but have never heard anyone actually use it when speaking) and use it like that, plain scary . Even scarier: that nobody apparently dares to ever voice anything critical around Tom Cruise. Ack!

I got pretty familiar with their argot after the friend above got into it. I'm a PTS. :)

Quick, get the Kool-Aid.

Better yet, get some of the Jonestown grape Flavor-aid.

WTF is LOH technology and how do I find an SP (suppressive person) to use it on?

That's supposed to be LRH, as in Lafayette Ronald Hubbard, the guy who started the whole snake oil business. ;)

Mom, Tom Cruise won't come out of the closet!Good. Lock it up.

What ?
Top Gun kicked assOh please, that was the dumbest film of the century. :rolleyes:

Good. Lock it up.

Now to burn the key... :)

Now to burn the key... :)...or rather the closet

Better yet, get some of the Jonestown grape Flavor-aid.

That's what I was referring to. :p

The video linked in the OP has been taken down because of copyright issues with the Church of Scientology. Seems they don't like it when you point out how crazy they are using their own adherents' words. Hmmm.

This video is no longer available due to a copyright claim by Church of Scientology International


^^ ... :( Does that mean I have to pay to watch it?

This video is no longer available due to a copyright claim by Church of Scientology International


^^ ... :( Does that mean I have to pay to watch it?

The Catholic Church during the Dark and Middle Ages was a hell of a lot cheaper club to join than Scientology.

Anything that requires payment for you to attain spiritual enlightenment is no religion at all.

This video is no longer available due to a copyright claim by Church of Scientology International


^^ ... :( Does that mean I have to pay to watch it?
This link still is: http://youtube.com/watch?v=nSYEk0QnkGw

Oh please, that was the dumbest film of the century. :rolleyes:Are you saying Top Gun is worse than Battlefield Earth?

I am tolerant of all religions.


Except scientology. Because it, out of all religions, has nothing relevent to offer to society and is more BS than any other (which is saying something).

That and I was almost a psych major.

Oh Tom Cruise. What cracked-out hilarity won't you engage in?

This reminds me of when me and some friends drove to Hollywood when I was 17 and I was walking down the shit hole known as Hollywood Blvd. WE were asked if we would take a test by some Indian Scientologist. We took the test and when the results came in the Indian guy told me that if I did not buy a copy of dianetics that cost around $20 I would kill myself within the year. I told him I did not have the money and he should just give me the book to save my life. This asshole would not give a supposedly suicidal kid like myself a copy of this life saving book. Well that was over 13 years ago and I still have not killed myself yet. Thats my only experience with Scientology in my life but it was enough for me to know that it is a bunch of horse shite.

That sounds about right! A friend of mine was enrolled in a comparative religions class, I believe, and for extra credit she went downtown with a friend to view the Scientology introduction video. She said the screening room was very small, they were not allowed to leave until the video was over, and after they were heavily pressured to enroll in classes/buy books/fork over whatever money they had on hand.

This reminds me of when me and some friends drove to Hollywood when I was 17 and I was walking down the shit hole known as Hollywood Blvd. WE were asked if we would take a test by some Indian Scientologist. We took the test and when the results came in the Indian guy told me that if I did not buy a copy of dianetics that cost around $20 I would kill myself within the year. I told him I did not have the money and he should just give me the book to save my life. This asshole would not give a supposedly suicidal kid like myself a copy of this life saving book. Well that was over 13 years ago and I still have not killed myself yet. Thats my only experience with Scientology in my life but it was enough for me to know that it is a bunch of horse shite.

That sounds about right! A friend of mine was enrolled in a comparative religions class, I believe, and for extra credit she went downtown with a friend to view the Scientology introduction video. She said the screening room was very small, they were not allowed to leave until the video was over, and after they were heavily pressured to enroll in classes/buy books/fork over whatever money they had on hand.Yeah they were really putting the pressure on me to buy but I had important things to spend my money on like pot and I would be damned if I was going to give my money to some scientologist. The dude kept saying you are going to die if you do not buy this he was really trying to use fear to get me to buy this book but compared to preachers I heard as a kid in Pentecostal churches my mom made me go to he was an amateur in the fear department.

Like anyone cares what that little faggot thinks.

Hey, now. That's an insult to fags and half-fags everywhere. We're nothing like Tom Cruise!

This video is no longer available due to a copyright claim by Church of Scientology International

I wonder how much they're sueing Youtube?

Oh does somebody have a transcript of this? I'm allergic to stupidity.

So does this mean if a scientologist crashes his or her car, you need to get another one to save him or her? Sounds good to me!

People like this make me want to revive the old art of throwing pies and rotten food goods at bad actors.:p

The video linked in the OP has been taken down because of copyright issues with the Church of Scientology. Seems they don't like it when you point out how crazy they are using their own adherents' words. Hmmm.

Col. Jessep: You want answers?
Kaffee: I think I'm entitled.
Col. Jessep: You want answers?
Kaffee: I want the truth.
Col. Jessep: You can't handle the truth.

Just seemed appropriate. ;)

People like this make me want to revive the old art of throwing pies and rotten food goods at bad actors.:p

When did that go out of style?!? :confused:

Apparently Tom Cruise is now No. 2 at the Church of Scientology if not de facto No. 1. Not only that but Suri is not technically his child but a product of the frozen sperm of L. Ron Hubbard and is therefore the 'chosen one' who will bring peace to earth.

I saw this on E Entertainment, so it must be true.

Here's what I want to know:

Was Tom Cruise always this crazy, and he just kept it under wraps, or has he become more crazy over time?
I think it's just been kept under wraps. Someone who's real name is Tomas Cruise Mapother IV is not going to be anything but batshit crazy.
Also, from all accounts his previous publicist kept his whacked-out views out of the public eye. But when she left in 2004 he was free to indulge and bore us with all these crazier-than-a-box-of-badgers pronouncements and increasingly bizarre behaviour.

The dude kept saying you are going to die if you do not buy this he was really trying to use fear to get me to buy this book but compared to preachers I heard as a kid in Pentecostal churches my mom made me go to he was an amateur in the fear department.

You know... you could have tried a bit of a reverse. Look a bit troubled and downcast. Mumble something about dying. And then smile a bit. But keep the eyes downcast. This is important. Then widen the smile, and look at the guy. Widen the eyes a bit. Say "If I'm going to die...."

Grin. Big one. Lots of teeth. Really widen those eyes. Expand the pupils. Twitch a lot, have your fingers spasm. Dart your eyes all over the place.

Whisper. "Maybe.... I should take some company"

Focus your eyes on him.

Watch the amusement. :p

Oh, just because this seems to be a halfway serious OP: he pretty clearly meant "you're the only who can help because you're the only one who's there", not "because only Scientologists can help at a car accident".


no actually, if you listen to the whole thing again you see that according to Hubbard who founded it, $cientologists are supposed to be the only people with the knowledge and skill to help - not just at car crashes but with anything. according to Cruise (and $cientology officially), $cientologists are the experts on mental health, crime, drug abuse, and blah blah. and they do this touch assist thing (it's like a technique used by Milton Erickson to hypnotize people, a long time before Hubbard invented $cientology) to 'help' injured people, which is part of why he said that when a $cientologist drives past an accident it isn't like anyone else because the $cientologist knows he's the one who can help.

it all comes down to the special abilities they believe the acquire when they do those OT levels and become superhuman.

The lunatic is on the grass.
The lunatic is on the grass.
Remembering games and daisy chains and laughs.
Got to keep the loonies on the path.

The lunatic is in the hall.
The lunatics are in my hall.
The paper holds their folded faces to the floor
And every day the paper boy brings more.

And if the dam breaks open many years too soon
And if there is no room upon the hill
And if your head explodes with dark forebodings too
I'll see you on the dark side of the moon.

The lunatic is in my head.
The lunatic is in my head
You raise the blade, you make the change
You re-arrange me 'til I'm sane.
You lock the door
And throw away the key
There's someone in my head but it's not me.

And if the cloud bursts, thunder in your ear
You shout and no one seems to hear.
And if the band you're in starts playing different tunes
I'll see you on the dark side of the moon.

"I can't think of anything to say except...
I think it's marvelous! HaHaHa!"


absolutely brilliant! thanks, i needed a laugh today.

WTF is LOH technology and how do I find an SP (suppressive person) to use it on?


that's 'LRH" (for 'L Ron Hubbard') as someone else has mentioned, and you learn to find 'SPs' by spending a shedload of money on nonsensical exercises and training designed to to teach you to regard anyone who doesn't like $cientology as an enemy of all life everywhere. once you find an 'SP' you apply LRH's intricate processes ('the Tech') of harassment, persecution and vindictiveness in accordance with his 'Fair Game Policy' which allows you to trick, sue, lie to, or destroy an SP.

wash, rinse, repeat. that's one way to 'clear the planet', eh?

easy as pie.

Maybe Tom Cruise could help Brittney Spears (she may not be a car accident but she is a train wreck), since Dr. Phil blew it. If nothing else they can be nuts together.

When will Scientology realize that Tom Cruise has no Star power left and that the only reason anyone pays attention to him is because he acts like he should be in a mental institution?

So if Scientologist are the only one able to help people in Car Accidents, then I guess Paramedics, Doctors, and Nurses are pretty much useless huh?

Oh a piece of advice, if you decide to prank phone call a Scientology office, be sure to mask your number, because they can and will call you back. I'm speaking from personal experience. Oh, and be sure to mention you are part of Lord Xenu's Evil Army and that he is closing in on Earth! *nods*

So if Scientologist are the only one able to help people in Car Accidents, then I guess Paramedics, Doctors, and Nurses are pretty much useless huh?

That's not what he was saying...

Oh a piece of advice, if you decide to prank phone call a Scientology office, be sure to mask your number, because they can and will call you back. I'm speaking from personal experience. Oh, and be sure to mention you are part of Lord Xenu's Evil Army and that he is closing in on Earth! *nods*

You actually called from a home number?

Gee, what can I say?

If I am ever involved, and injured in a car accident, I really want a trained Paramedic team and a trained fire company to take care of my family and I.

Of course, I think that more accident victims have been trained by professional and volunteer Paramedics and Firefighters than scientologists. But my figures may be slightly off :)

Oh, just because this seems to be a halfway serious OP: he pretty clearly meant "you're the only who can help because you're the only one who's there", not "because only Scientologists can help at a car accident".

^^
This needs to be said again...

If a Scientologist starts talking to you and you shoot him, that's self-defense, right?

Here's what I want to know:

Was Tom Cruise always this crazy, and he just kept it under wraps, or has he become more crazy over time?

Sane people don't make that many kick-ass movies. But being on topic...


If a Scientologist starts talking to you and you shoot him, that's self-defense, right?

I believe so, especially if they try to call it a religion as the only aspect it has that makes it resemble a religion is the need it feels to control everything beyond any and all reason.
As for Tom Cruise, he needs just shut up and stick with acting as it appears everything intelligent I've heard come out of his mouth first passed through the hands of a writer.

Here's what I want to know:

Was Tom Cruise always this crazy, and he just kept it under wraps, or has he become more crazy over time?

Honestly, he doesn't sound any crazier than any other religious convert.

He thinks that his religion is the best (otherwise he wouldn't have picked it) and that if everyone would just convert then they could be as happy as he is without having to be the sad desperate pathetic wretch that he felt like before that makes how he feels now good by comparison.

It would be like if I said everyone should put silvadene on their skin because I just did and it felt really good. Maybe instead of waiting until you suffer a painful burn wound before discovering the joy of silvadene you should slather yourself in it now.

You actually called from a home number?

Cell phone.

This reminds me of when me and some friends drove to Hollywood when I was 17 and I was walking down the shit hole known as Hollywood Blvd. WE were asked if we would take a test by some Indian Scientologist. We took the test and when the results came in the Indian guy told me that if I did not buy a copy of dianetics that cost around $20 I would kill myself within the year. I told him I did not have the money and he should just give me the book to save my life. This asshole would not give a supposedly suicidal kid like myself a copy of this life saving book. Well that was over 13 years ago and I still have not killed myself yet. Thats my only experience with Scientology in my life but it was enough for me to know that it is a bunch of horse shite.

I probably would have asked to have his cell number so I could call him in a year and tell him how things were going. I wonder what kind of response would come from that?

"That'll be $19.99"

I probably would have asked to have his cell number so I could call him in a year and tell him how things were going. I wonder what kind of response would come from that?

"That'll be $19.99"It was 1993 and his cell phone would not of fit in the tiny ass room we were in.

Honestly, he doesn't sound any crazier than any other religious convert.

He thinks that his religion is the best (otherwise he wouldn't have picked it) and that if everyone would just convert then they could be as happy as he is without having to be the sad desperate pathetic wretch that he felt like before that makes how he feels now good by comparison.

It would be like if I said everyone should put silvadene on their skin because I just did and it felt really good. Maybe instead of waiting until you suffer a painful burn wound before discovering the joy of silvadene you should slather yourself in it now.

But this sounds considerably more blithering and incoherent than what most religious converts tend to spurt out, where they do seem to have some sort of general message and point (even if it is a load of bollocks). It kind of suggests that they have been psychologically coerced into this elevated enthusiasm for Scientology, where they don't really understand what they are actually believing.

^^
This needs to be said again...

why? it'll be just as wrong if it's repeated as it was the first time.

Tom Cruise: "Being a Scientologist, when you drive past an accident, it’s not like anyone else. As you drive past, you know you have to do something about it, because you know you’re the only one that can really help."

he says it's not "because you're the only one there", but "because you know you’re the only one that can really help". the inclusion of "really" in the phrase "really help" goes along with his phrase "it’s not like anyone else". this is as plain as the nose on his face. he's not comparing himself as a $cientologist to the non-presence of anyone else in the proximity of the accident, he's comparing himself as a $cientologist to non-$cientologists, and saying that "only" $cientologists can "really" help.

this isn't that hard to understand unless you don't want to understand it.

that interpretation is only strengthened when you listen to the whole video. according to Cruise (like LRH before him) only $cientology can deal with crime, drugs, illiteracy, the mind, etc, etc ad nauseam. Cruise's message is a single theme: $cientology, and only $cientology, can solve the world's problems. and for Cruise that means only $cientologists can do anything worthwhile in the face of any human crisis.

and that's why it's clam excrement.

Now we know why Nicole threw his ass on the road.

why? it'll be just as wrong if it's repeated as it was the first time.

Tom Cruise: "Being a Scientologist, when you drive past an accident, it’s not like anyone else. As you drive past, you know you have to do something about it, because you know you’re the only one that can really help."

he says it's not "because you're the only one there", but "because you know you’re the only one that can really help". the inclusion of "really" in the phrase "really help" goes along with his phrase "it’s not like anyone else". this is as plain as the nose on his face. he's not comparing himself as a $cientologist to the non-presence of anyone else in the proximity of the accident, he's comparing himself as a $cientologist to non-$cientologists, and saying that "only" $cientologists can "really" help.

this isn't that hard to understand unless you don't want to understand it.

that interpretation is only strengthened when you listen to the whole video. according to Cruise (like LRH before him) only $cientology can deal with crime, drugs, illiteracy, the mind, etc, etc ad nauseam. Cruise's message is a single theme: $cientology, and only $cientology, can solve the world's problems. and for Cruise that means only $cientologists can do anything worthwhile in the face of any human crisis.

and that's why it's clam excrement.

ya but what CAN a scientologist do that no one else can do? convince the guy trapped in the car with the water flowing in that its all the bad thetans?

this isn't that hard to understand unless you don't want to understand it.
I disagree. I think it's open for interpretation.

"you know you have to do something about it, because, you know you're the only one who can really help."

If he doesn't say that Scientologists will stop and help at an accident, while non-scientologists won't - what is it that they can "really" do?

And how do you go from his statements to claiming that paramedics and ambulance workers can't help?

I disagree. I think it's open for interpretation.

"you know you have to do something about it, because, you know you're the only one who can really help."

If he doesn't say that Scientologists will stop and help at an accident, while non-scientologists won't - what is it that they can "really" do?
Who knows? He is a fucking crackpot who believes sincerely in a cult started by a sci-fi author that states an alien overlord tossed a bunch of other aliens into volcanoes and now we are possessed by their spirits and that the Scientologists are the fucking Ghostbusters.

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And how do you go from his statements to claiming that paramedics and ambulance workers can't help?

I didn't. that's a version of a statement by Wilgrove - as you will remember since you answered him Gravlen's reply (http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showpost.php?p=13382841&postcount=73).

otoh, Cruise makes it plain that in his opinion $cientologists are the only people who really can help someone in trouble. listen to what he says, and to what $cientology has claimed for itself since it began. you don't have to believe their claims are true, but you accomplish nothing by refusing to acknowledge the real nature of their claims and their goals.

Who knows? He is a fucking crackpot who believes sincerely in a cult started by a sci-fi author that states an alien overlord tossed a bunch of other aliens into volcanoes and now we are possessed by their spirits and that the Scientologists are the fucking Ghostbusters.

I'm surprised the $cientologists didn't sue John Carpenter over The Ghosts of Mars.