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Cats or Dogs?

Soviestan
15-01-2008, 07:39
Which do you prefer? I must say I'm partial to cats myself, I like their independent nature.
Straughn
15-01-2008, 07:40
Ferrets FTW!!!!
http://www.mattwardman.com/blog/wp-content/uploads/q-image-ferrets-3-1.jpg
The Black Forrest
15-01-2008, 07:41
I have both. 2 kittens and a Saint.
Straughn
15-01-2008, 07:42
That's what's so cool about ferrets ... they're like kittens that never turn old and cantankerous .... into cats. *nods emphatically*
http://ferretgeek.com/images/Pooka_on_blanket.jpg
Thumbless Pete Crabbe
15-01-2008, 07:43
Eh. Cats are fine, if useless, but I prefer dogs.
Wilgrove
15-01-2008, 07:52
I have a Siamese cat who is just adorable. She loves to be petted and loved on, and every time I come home she runs down the hall to where I'm at to greet me by rubbing my legs and purring. She really likes to cuddle next to me on cold nights and sometimes lay on top of me hehe. I love her and she is my little one.
Anti-Social Darwinism
15-01-2008, 07:53
I have three cats. If they had opposible thumbs, they'd be dangerous. They're independent, mischievous, creative, low-maintenance and intelligent.

I've had several dogs. The latest one was (someone poisoned her) loyal, friendly, mischievous, creative, high-maintenance and intelligent (she was a terrier, that adds IQ points. It also means she's even higher maintenance than the average dog).

Each has something different to offer, and, while I generally prefer cats, I like dogs and am currently looking for one to rescue. Possible an adult corgi or corgi mix if I can find one.
The Loyal Opposition
15-01-2008, 08:02
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/6/6c/Americanblue.jpg

Dogs are only good for exponentially increasing one's food and carpet cleaning expenses. And cats possess the ability to project evil everywhere they go (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fel_d_1).

However, I have yet to encounter a domesticated rat that wasn't well behaved, clean, and allergen free.
Delator
15-01-2008, 08:03
Dogs are louder, smell worse, can't be left alone for more than half a day, and have an annoying tendency to beg.

Cats are quiet, unobtrusive, they shed less, you can leave them alone for days on end if you leave out food and water.

Cats are also more like people, and they are not practically slaves like dogs are. A dog fawns over it's owner because it must do so to survive. It takes severe animal abuse to drive this behavior out of a dog. A cat knows that if it really wants to, it can sneak out between your legs as you leave your house, and never come back...it is able to fend for itself.

The only advantage to a dog that I can see is that a large enough breed can drag you out of your burning house if you've been knocked unconscious.

Aside from that, cats pwn.
Thumbless Pete Crabbe
15-01-2008, 08:04
Dogs are only good for exponentially increasing one's food and carpet cleaning expenses.

However, I have yet to encounter a domesticated rat that wasn't well behaved, clean, and allergen free.

I've never kept dogs inside a house. Solves most of the problems people have mentioned. ;) As to food, buy in bulk and feed them leftovers that you don't want. $5/mo, max.

As for rats, I've killed far too many of the non-domesticated kind to see them as pets. :p
Big Jim P
15-01-2008, 08:07
Depends on the recipe.
Straughn
15-01-2008, 08:08
However, I have yet to encounter a domesticated rat that wasn't well behaved, clean, and allergen free.Rats rock. *bows*
They just don't last long. :(
Dirrard
15-01-2008, 08:12
Depends on the recipe.

HAHAHAHAAHAH! thank you. you made my day
The Loyal Opposition
15-01-2008, 08:17
As for rats, I've killed far too many of the non-domesticated kind to see them as pets. :p

Removal of uninvited guests calls for a live animal trap and a nearby wilderness/undeveloped area. It also calls for getting the landlord to do something about the neighbor that insists on leaving dog food out unsealed and in the open. :mad:
The Loyal Opposition
15-01-2008, 08:18
I've never kept dogs inside a house. Solves most of the problems people have mentioned.


Ah. Insta-coyote food. At least here the neighborhood cats do much better.
Cierdalon
15-01-2008, 08:25
Dogs, cats, and horses all go very well together, so I can't pick one (dogs or cats) over the other. Both kill rodents around the barn and dogs can work as well as play, whereas cats tend to prefer their own company.
Thumbless Pete Crabbe
15-01-2008, 08:30
Removal of uninvited guests calls for a live animal trap and a nearby wilderness/undeveloped area. It also calls for getting the landlord to do something about the neighbor that insists on leaving dog food out unsealed and in the open. :mad:

Ugh. Why so dogmatic? Anyway, that's sweet and everything, but doesn't work in the real world, at least for me. Last infestation meant about 40 mice, which died in groups of twos and threes for a week. A dozen trips to the local preserve isn't practical. Anyway, I have high fences - only the dogs have access to their food.

Edit: also, "landlord?"

Ah. Insta-coyote food. At least here the neighborhood cats do much better.

I don't keep small dogs. I've had my dogs run into coyotes on walks through the national forest - they didn't decide to fight, although I wouldn't have believed it myself beforehand. Either way, I'd take either of my dogs over a coyote or two any time, especially since they were wild themselves before I took them in. :) But that's a moot point now that development has forced the coyotes out of the area.
The Loyal Opposition
15-01-2008, 08:41
Anyway, that's sweet and everything, but doesn't work in the real world, at least for me. Last infestation meant about 40 mice, which died in groups of twos and threes for a week.


I was going to say, here in the middle of ultra-dense suburbia (a "backyard" is the 2 or so square foot patch of grass between each house; if there is ever a large residential fire, the whole town is going up) the sheer magnitude of cement and asphalt probably makes large scale infestation unlikely, despite the neighbors' best efforts. At least until one happens upon the apartment with the roach infestation...


Edit: also, "landlord?"


Ultra-dense suburbia. The only people who actually own their homes are those that own everyone else's homes. Welcome to the company town (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Master_planned_community).


But that's a moot point now that development has forced the coyotes out of the area.


Here, "out of the area" means "into the middle of town." Coyotes, opossums, raccoons, all manner of rodents, etc. Concrete, asphalt, and every animal that was here beforehand. Their resolve is actually quite admirable.
The Loyal Opposition
15-01-2008, 08:44
Ugh. Why so dogmatic?

Sorry, the ":mad:" was directed at my former neighbor and no one else.
Thumbless Pete Crabbe
15-01-2008, 08:45
I was going to say, here in the middle of ultra-dense suburbia (a "backyard" is the 2 or so square foot patch of grass between each house; if there is ever a large residential fire, the whole town is going up) the sheer magnitude of cement and asphalt probably makes large scale infestation unlikely, despite the neighbors' best efforts. At least until one happens upon the apartment with the roach infestation...


Ah, I see. That's how it was when I lived in Orange County. I prefer San Bernardino - my house is on (I believe) 3/4 of an acre, although the "new" side of town is just the opposite.

In any event, the animals have room to roam, and the few coyotes that are left are well-fed and sluggishly meander by me without making eye contact when I do walk into them. :p My owl gets about 90% of the mice, judging by his/her pellets, but they do tend to make it into my walls in the wintertime, as they did recently.
The Loyal Opposition
15-01-2008, 08:59
...my house is on (I believe) 3/4 of an acre...


I can only dream of such luxury...


My owl gets about 90% of the mice, judging by his/her pellets...


:eek:

A new contender for Coolest Pet Ever.
Straughn
15-01-2008, 09:00
A new contender for Coolest Pet Ever.
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United Beleriand
15-01-2008, 09:10
Cats, hands down. Dogs are too submissive.
Risottia
15-01-2008, 10:58
If a cat is large as a chihuahua, you call it a cat.
If a cat is large as a basset hound, you call it a lynx.
If a cat is large as a saint-bernard, you call it a panther.

...cats rule.
Wilgrove
15-01-2008, 11:40
If a cat is large as a chihuahua, you call it a cat.
If a cat is large as a basset hound, you call it a lynx.
If a cat is large as a saint-bernard, you call it a panther.

...cats rule.

If a dog is as small as a cat, (like the Chihuahua) you call it a rat! :p I call those little dogs rat dogs. hehe.
Fall of Empire
15-01-2008, 12:02
CATZ!!! Cats are the shit, hands down. Nothing beats a cat.
Dryks Legacy
15-01-2008, 12:20
A cat knows that if it really wants to, it can sneak out between your legs as you leave your house, and never come back...it is able to fend for itself.

That's why I hate cats, when I get my own house I'm putting up signs and cats will be treated like any other trespassers, and if I find them killing native birds I'll be even more angry.
Cabra West
15-01-2008, 13:16
Which do you prefer? I must say I'm partial to cats myself, I like their independent nature.

Cats. Got 3 of them at home now... :)
Cabra West
15-01-2008, 13:19
That's why I hate cats, when I get my own house I'm putting up signs and cats will be treated like any other trespassers, and if I find them killing native birds I'll be even more angry.

What if it kills immigrant birds?
Despoticania
15-01-2008, 13:29
Dogs. Cats are evil.
St Edmund
15-01-2008, 13:32
Dogs. Cats are evil.

An argument that seems at odds with your nation's name... ;)
Call to power
15-01-2008, 13:43
the domesticated houseplant :)

failing that cats because unlike dogs they don't use puppy eyes to get all my bacon :mad:
Rambhutan
15-01-2008, 13:57
I can has catz
Kryozerkia
15-01-2008, 14:10
Being a cat owner, I'd have to say I prefer cats.

Besides, who doesn't enjoy watching their beloved kitty trip out on catnip? :D
Lunatic Goofballs
15-01-2008, 14:15
Cats.

I have no animosity towards dogs. I like dogs. But I like cats better because they are evil.

In fact I named my cat, Evil. Evil tolerates my presence because I feed him, clean his litter, and provide convenient fur stroking when he feels like it. His continued appreciation of my service means that when the world is his, my death shall be quick and painless. :)
Mad hatters in jeans
15-01-2008, 14:18
Trouble with dogs is many were trained to kill humans, while cats have the psychology(yes i said that with a straight face) to kill anything.
Dogs need to be trained (well a greater majority do) to do most things like fetch or rescue. As a result although sometimes useful they can be ruthless hunters.
Cat's are usually cuddly and probably won't try to kill you, but they are willing to kill many many voles, mice rats you name it, brilliant at taking out pests.but some cats i've known are pretty stupid, one died trying to outstare a lorry, another got it's tail ran over by a car but survived, the other died of heart problems at 13.
So if you can afford it i'd go with a dog, but if you don't have much room a cat is generally better (but they usually need almost as much space to roam).
I know someone who's trying to get rats (cos they love them for some reason), but their landlord doesn't allow pets, so it'l be a sort of secret thing.
Neo Bretonnia
15-01-2008, 14:40
Cats.

I have no animosity towards dogs. I like dogs. But I like cats better because they are evil.

In fact I named my cat, Evil. Evil tolerates my presence because I feed him, clean his litter, and provide convenient fur stroking when he feels like it. His continued appreciation of my service means that when the world is his, my death shall be quick and painless. :)

It's funny because this is exactly the same way my wife and I talk about our cat. It's not uncommon at all to hear this sort of thing about cats...

Which makes me wonder...
Cameroi
15-01-2008, 14:58
i like everything that walks on four legs and has fur.

i don't dislike dogs, but i prefer something quieter, that can mostly look after itself.

if i wanted something that emotionally attatched to demanding attention, i'd get another human.

=^^=
.../\...
Pure Metal
15-01-2008, 15:03
Dogs are louder, smell worse, can't be left alone for more than half a day, and have an annoying tendency to beg.

Cats are quiet, unobtrusive, they shed less, you can leave them alone for days on end if you leave out food and water.

Cats are also more like people, and they are not practically slaves like dogs are. A dog fawns over it's owner because it must do so to survive. It takes severe animal abuse to drive this behavior out of a dog. A cat knows that if it really wants to, it can sneak out between your legs as you leave your house, and never come back...it is able to fend for itself.

The only advantage to a dog that I can see is that a large enough breed can drag you out of your burning house if you've been knocked unconscious.

Aside from that, cats pwn.
QFT

cats are adorable. dogs make me sniffly, breathe badly, and come out in a rash. plus they're not as cute as cats by any measure imo


It's funny because this is exactly the same way my wife and I talk about our cat. It's not uncommon at all to hear this sort of thing about cats...

Which makes me wonder...

lol pretty much the same way we used to talk about our cat, Buster, as well. we were his pets in his house, as far as we were concerned ;)
Dalmatia Cisalpina
15-01-2008, 15:06
Cats make you work for their affection. Being a cat person, I've never had to work very hard, but still ... I do like a challenge.
Fassitude
15-01-2008, 15:11
Cats are nothing but a current fad of evil. Dogs, they are eternal goodness.
Hobabwe
15-01-2008, 15:19
Cats.

I have no animosity towards dogs. I like dogs. But I like cats better because they are evil.

In fact I named my cat, Evil. Evil tolerates my presence because I feed him, clean his litter, and provide convenient fur stroking when he feels like it. His continued appreciation of my service means that when the world is his, my death shall be quick and painless. :)

Got evil ? :http://www.gucomics.com/comic/?cdate=20050103
Intangelon
15-01-2008, 15:29
Dogs are louder, smell worse, can't be left alone for more than half a day, and have an annoying tendency to beg.

Wrong, wrong and wrong. All dog tendencies are dependent upon the diligence of the owner. If you're a lazy shithead, your dog will beg, bark and be unable to be alone. Please name me the cat that will wake you when a fire, criminal or other unfortunate incident comes to call at your home? You can't, so don't try -- any anecdote you can dig up will be a rare exception.

I have nothing against cats whatsoever, but people who deliberately misrepresent dogs as a species when its owners who have the problems, well that just pisses me off. They're two different species and have two completely different sets of requirements with regard to who can have them and for which kind of home they're appropriate. My mother's Briard begs because she was weak and didn't train her properly. My sister's pair of dalmatians are well trained and never beg. In short, the owner has to have the will to do the right thing for the animal. A well-trained dog is a sign of a diligent owner. There is no such thing as a well-trained cat. That doesn't mean that cats or dogs are inherently better or worse than one another -- it means that they're different creatures.

Cats are quiet, unobtrusive, they shed less, you can leave them alone for days on end if you leave out food and water.

CATS SHED LESS?!? Are you high? No cat doesn't shed. Many breeds of dog have HAIR and not fur, and therefore shed very little if at all. I can still find cat hair on clothes AFTER washing them from one visit to a cat-owning friend's house. With access to the outdoors, or with an outdoor dog, leaving them with enough food means you can leave them alone for days on end as well. Depending on the breed, dogs have a better tolerance for inclement weather as well.

Cats are also more like people, and they are not practically slaves like dogs are. A dog fawns over it's owner because it must do so to survive. It takes severe animal abuse to drive this behavior out of a dog. A cat knows that if it really wants to, it can sneak out between your legs as you leave your house, and never come back...it is able to fend for itself.

Okay, now you're just making stuff up. Dogs are just as adept as cats at fending for themselves. They do it in different ways that INCLUDE, and not exclusively, looking for handouts. Cats will, too. Dogs were BRED to be human companions, it's in their DNA, so I really don't see how you can legitimately use that as a canine detriment. Dogs are what we made them, and if left alone, they can and do revert to lone or pack wild mentalities.

The only advantage to a dog that I can see is that a large enough breed can drag you out of your burning house if you've been knocked unconscious.

And even small ones can alert you to danger. Nice try.

Aside from that, cats pwn.[/QUOTE]

Neither animal is superior, they're different. Suggesting otherwise is needlessly juvenile. Let's just make sure we all treat our respective pets well, m'kay?
Newer Burmecia
15-01-2008, 15:30
My grandma's dog wees on my bed and coats me in hair.

So cats.
Andaluciae
15-01-2008, 15:38
One of each, please, but getting the cat first so that it can keep the dog in line when it's a puppy, and not be a mean-ol' cat chaser.
Neo Bretonnia
15-01-2008, 15:56
Cats are easier to live with because generally they're perfectly content to ignore you and be ignored for hours at a time.

On the other hand, if somebody breaks into your house, a cat will either hide or watch the goings on impassively, wheras a German Shepherd will rip the intruder's arm off and chase him with it.

One of the great things about Germans Shepherds is that they will herd children for you. I'd feel safe letting my kids play out in the yard with a family German Shepherd to watch over them and defend them from harm or keep them from wanderig off.
Smunkeeville
15-01-2008, 16:07
However, I have yet to encounter a domesticated rat that wasn't well behaved, clean, and allergen free.

are rats really allergen free? do they bite often?

I had a dog, but he died, so I got two kittens....

I can't decide. The dog was awesome for like getting to go on walks with him, and in the winter he slept on my feet, and he loved me and was loyal, and he played fetch and protected my kids.

The cats, don't really care about me, unless they want something, one of them doesn't pay attention to me at all, and prefers to sleep on my crown molding until it's time to eat. The other only wants attention when I am trying to read, sew, cook, watch TV, or work on the computer. Any time I am lounging and available to pet him, he ignores me for more interesting pursuits like chewing on the other cat and trying to buttsex him.
Cabra West
15-01-2008, 16:44
are rats really allergen free? do they bite often?

I had a dog, but he died, so I got two kittens....

I can't decide. The dog was awesome for like getting to go on walks with him, and in the winter he slept on my feet, and he loved me and was loyal, and he played fetch and protected my kids.

The cats, don't really care about me, unless they want something, one of them doesn't pay attention to me at all, and prefers to sleep on my crown molding until it's time to eat. The other only wants attention when I am trying to read, sew, cook, watch TV, or work on the computer. Any time I am lounging and available to pet him, he ignores me for more interesting pursuits like chewing on the other cat and trying to buttsex him.


I think one of the main differences is that you have a dog for yourself (as a watch dog, to play with, for company, etc...) whereas you have a cat for... well, the cat's sake, really.
Smunkeeville
15-01-2008, 16:50
I think one of the main differences is that you have a dog for yourself (as a watch dog, to play with, for company, etc...) whereas you have a cat for... well, the cat's sake, really.

I think part of the thing too, is the dog was mine, whereas the cats don't really belong to any of us in particular, they are here for....I supposed just to hang out.
Cabra West
15-01-2008, 16:51
I think part of the thing too, is the dog was mine, whereas the cats don't really belong to any of us in particular, they are here for....I supposed just to hang out.

They're cats. ;)
They don't belong to anyone, they just stay around for the food and the entertainment. And usually cats have more than one home. My cat has 2 or 3 homes in the neighbourhood where she regularly visits cause they feed her.
The Shadowsouled
15-01-2008, 16:58
Neko 4life. I will always go for cats over dogs. Except laboradors, silly things they are awesome.
Gun Manufacturers
15-01-2008, 17:05
Cats are nothing but a current fad of evil. Dogs, they are eternal goodness.

Wow, something Fass and I agree on?

http://img360.imageshack.us/img360/96/owldynomite5hl.jpg
Anti-Social Darwinism
15-01-2008, 17:11
They're cats. ;)
They don't belong to anyone, they just stay around for the food and the entertainment. And usually cats have more than one home. My cat has 2 or 3 homes in the neighbourhood where she regularly visits cause they feed her.

My cats are elderly indoor cats. They are actually quite devoted, Clyde has shown a definite preference for my daughter, follows her everywhere and comes when called. Persephone has decided that my daughter is evil and I am hers. She frequently has conversations with me, usually about the perfidy of Clyde and my daughter.

Clyde follows repair people around and watches what they do, offering advice. They have both been known to let me know when something wasn't right, like the time I forgot to turn the stove off when I made tea - Clyde refused to let me alone until I followed him into the kitchen and turned the stove off and Persephone has pointed out running toilets.

I think the problem is that when people have cats, they don't feel the need to develop the relationship the way the do with dogs. We've all been taught that cats don't learn tricks and don't feel affection - but they do, they're just not like dogs. I remember when I was teaching Dumb Dog to sit, giving her bits of chicken as a reward when she did well, Clyde noticed what was going on and started to sit up like the dog whenever he wanted a treat. Dumb Dog (who was anything but dumb) had to be taught, Clyde learned from observation. (Incidentally, the cats all regarded Dumb Dog as a convenient, mobile cat toy).
Soviestan
15-01-2008, 22:42
Rats rock. *bows*
They just don't last long. :(

rats do make good pets. I had two that lasted for almost three years.
Poliwanacraca
15-01-2008, 23:13
I have the best dog in the world, so I obviously have to vote for dogs. I like cats, too, but dogs are just so delightfully...doggy. :)
Dorstfeld
15-01-2008, 23:29
We have a cat and a dog.

My heart belongs to the cat, and that's not only because he never craps in front of the washing mashine.
Dempublicents1
15-01-2008, 23:37
Cats make me sneezy.

And my dogs are awesome.
Pirated Corsairs
15-01-2008, 23:39
I love both, but I'd have to give a slight edge to dogs.

However, if I get a pet any time soon, it's more likely to be a cat than a dog. The lower maintenance would fit better with my budget and schedule.
Snafturi
16-01-2008, 00:28
Large and medium breed dogs. I hate small dogs.
UN Protectorates
16-01-2008, 00:29
Rabbits.
Lame Bums
16-01-2008, 00:42
Which do you prefer? I must say I'm partial to cats myself, I like their independent nature.

I'd prefer to have a dog, especially a big one. Problem is, I can't keep up with the dog, taking the dog out for a leak every four hours, etc... so I'm a cat kind of guy as a result.
Sel Appa
16-01-2008, 00:53
Cats by far
Llewdor
16-01-2008, 01:17
If we're going to measure the two against each other, we need some standard by which to do so. Let's examine the behaviour of your companion animal should you die.

Dogs: Your dogs will guard your corpse until they starve to death.

Cats: Your cats will eat you.

By my count, they both lose.
JuNii
16-01-2008, 01:31
Cats...

nothing against dogs, but dogs requires walks, picking up after them and their baths...

cats... low maintenance, however, any lessions they learn, they remember.

also, I've had better relationships with cats than with dogs.
Rykarian Territories
16-01-2008, 04:30
Dogs, big dogs, german shepherds, australian shepherds and rottweiler's
Vectrova
16-01-2008, 05:35
Most definitely cats. Dogs can be well behaved, but very, very often aren't. As such, all the ones in my experience have been extremely loud, annoying, and blindly loyal. ... And resemble their owners in those respects.

However, cats... not so much.
James_xenoland
16-01-2008, 08:30
Cats FTW!
Wilgrove
16-01-2008, 08:32
Cats FTW!

awwww, KITTY!

http://icanhascheezburger.files.wordpress.com/2007/11/funny-pictures-walls-utterly-fascinating.jpg
Piegonia
16-01-2008, 09:09
Don't get me wrong, I like most animals, but I prefer cats because:

1) They're smaller, so you can pick them up easier (even the bigger cats).
2) They don't require walks.
3) They live longer.
4) You don't have to pick up their faeces (they bury it).
5) They're more independent, so you can leave them alone more easily.
Knights of Liberty
17-01-2008, 04:15
I love animals in general.
Straughn
17-01-2008, 04:18
rats do make good pets. I had two that lasted for almost three years.Me too. :)
I've been able to convince one of my coworkers that he should get a couple. I've got some funny stories about the ones that i had ...
Trollgaard
17-01-2008, 04:18
I love both, but I love dogs more. Dogs are man's best friend. They've been by our side for over 15,000 years, and will continue to be by our side forever.

I particularly like large dogs, such as Great Danes, Mastiffs, etc
Celtlund II
17-01-2008, 04:30
Which do you prefer? I must say I'm partial to cats myself, I like their independent nature.

I like the fact they use the litter box so you don't have to let them out or walk them. Also, they take up less room in the bed.
Celtlund II
17-01-2008, 04:37
And resemble their owners.....

Like this?

http://www.boosbulldogfarm.com/chipscompressed.jpg

http://www.lymphomainfo.net/blog/1108600625-0.jpg
Anti-Social Darwinism
17-01-2008, 07:43
Which do you prefer? I must say I'm partial to cats myself, I like their independent nature.

Wasn't Mohammed supposed to have cut off the edge of his robe rather than disturb the cat who was sleeping on it?
Mad hatters in jeans
17-01-2008, 12:18
Me too. :)
I've been able to convince one of my coworkers that he should get a couple. I've got some funny stories about the ones that i had ...

Stories? yes tell me more! *gives manic grin*