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Do you dance? Well, with the help of some friends, I've been really getting into salsa. Dancing with friends, going to classes and soon I'll start going to the local latin clubs.:)

This is my favorite song to salsa to:
Abre que voy (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lqESFVKUeDg)

Salseros si llamo! Yo vengo! Yo se que te gusta yo se que te encanta abreme la puerta que vengo gozando!

Para nuestros Latinos aqui, tengo una pregunta....que significa "gozando" o "gozar". Me encanta esa cancion y querro entender todo la cancion. Gracias....

What do you guys like to dance, if you do like to dance?

Also, do you guys have any good Salsa songs you'd like to share, because my friend just created a CD of salsa music for me and since she gave it to me, I've been jamming it in my car...and I'm gonna make one myself soon and am always looking for new songs.:)

I dance. Only, I don't do dances that other people normally recognize as dancing.

I dance. Only, I don't do dances that other people normally recognize as dancing.
Expand on that.....

Expand on that.....

Eh. I do what makes sense to me at the moment. I'll hit up youTube and see if I can find a dance that might look like one of mine. :)

Also,

Para nuestros Latinos aqui, tengo una pregunta....que significa "gozando" o "gozar". Me encanta esa cancion y querro entender todo la cancion. Gracias....

Babelfish says "to enjoy." I don't recognize it from Spanish class, but that's what it says.

Do you dance?
... last time I danced, someone thought I was having a sezure... so I guess the answer is no. :p

Eh. I do what makes sense to me at the moment. I'll hit up youTube and see if I can find a dance that might look like one of mine. :)
Do so.
Babelfish says "to enjoy." I don't recognize it from Spanish class, but that's what it says.
Hmm....that sounds awkward to me in the song...weird, Voy a pregunar mis amigos o esperar desde algun en NSG sabe....
... last time I danced, someone thought I was having a sezure... so I guess the answer is no. :p
Just takes practice..and it will put you in good shape.;)

Dancing by technique misses the point. If you have to behave in an orderly, conscious way, you might as well sit down and read Foucault on the side.

If by "dance" you mean "drunken movements" then yes, I dance.

Fluently.

I don't dance. Congenital defect, born without rhythm.

yeh, not any kind of pre-conceived dance though. i don't see the point in that.

I can dance some german folk-polka stuff... sort of...

Dancing by technique misses the point. If you have to behave in an orderly, conscious way, you might as well sit down and read Foucault on the side.

yes.

Never.

Yes, I dance! Ballroom and Latin, though I am more accomplished at Latin (I have a mean cha-cha). And I'm looking for someone who can teach me how to swing again.

I don't dance because I'm a coward and also because I have no social life in which to do that dancing in.

I dance in that I'm no good, but if I'm at a gig or a club, I'll give it a go. I'm well aware I look ridiculous, but I can have a good time doing it and it's a hell of a lot better than standing at the bar all night.

Dancing by technique misses the point. If you have to behave in an orderly, conscious way, you might as well sit down and read Foucault on the side.
Well salsa is not really like that, in that you don't plan out exactly how everyone steps....You have different style moves that you can do, and the trick is pulling them together while leading the girl through. It's not so "orderly" as much as agility and coordination betweent he girl and guy..also, it's totally sexy when things are going good between the girl and the guy.
I don't dance because I'm a coward and also because I have no social life in which to do that dancing in.
How unfortunate. Get out more?
I don't dance. Congenital defect, born without rhythm.
It's because you're Black.

Do so.

After looking around a bit, I think I'd compare my style a bit to these old guys, (once they get off the ground) minus the extended arms, and with far less twirling:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JSVQ4IvT0Ls

So, basically the zembekiko footwork, with the hands and arms moving in my own way rather than outstreched. My arms tend to move foreward and backward rather than in the Hollywoodized Greek fashion - almost like the stereotypical indian raindance in the cartoons. :p Also, I never dance to music - only to my own rhythm. :) And of course, the dance changes with my mood. I use the clip to demonstrate the kind of rhythm I usually have, not the exact steps.

It's because you're Black.

No, no, that should mean I was born with rhythm.

Lewis Black?

No, no, that should mean I was born with rhythm.
I know....:rolleyes:

It was a joke because you were bitching that I always say negative things about Blacks in the other thread.....

I'm well aware that Whitey is the one born without Rhythm and we have to learn it.:p

After looking around a bit, I think I'd compare my style a bit to these old guys, (once they get off the ground) minus the extended arms, and with far less twirling:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JSVQ4IvT0Ls

So, basically the zembekiko footwork, with the hands and arms moving in my own way rather than outstreched. My arms tend to move foreward and backward rather than in the Hollywoodized Greek fashion - almost like the stereotypical indian raindance in the cartoons. :p Also, I never dance to music - only to my own rhythm. :) And of course, the dance changes with my mood. I use the clip to demonstrate the kind of rhythm I usually have, not the exact steps.
That's so ballin'! I can't beleive you can actually do that kind of stuff! How old are you?

That's so ballin'! I can't beleive you can actually do that kind of stuff! How old are you?

Thanks! :p Though I'd probably get a chair thrown at me if I claimed I was a good dancer. The zembekiko sort of resembles my natural inclination, but I have no dance training or anything like that.

Yes, but not any actual dance.

Yes, I dance. I don't go to clubs often because I despise those people and it's LCD dancing like the music, but at the appropriate venues I do.

I love slow dancing and ballroom dancing the most.

Liquid Crystal Display dancing?

I dance at raves/psytrance parties.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JSVQ4IvT0Ls


reminds me of that scene out of The Big Lebowski. i like the twirly bits.

Not quite.

I figure skate.

I've been doing it for four or five years now, and I love it.

I do the two-step: I take two steps, then fall over.

I can/have danced many "standard" ballroom dances (two years of Cotillion enforced by mi madre) and can do strange forgotten dances like the Virginia Reel and Charleston Promenade. ^_^

I'm also really good at moving to the music at clubs, but I think it's a girl thing.

I dance in that I'm no good, but if I'm at a gig or a club, I'll give it a go. I'm well aware I look ridiculous, but I can have a good time doing it and it's a hell of a lot better than standing at the bar all night.

This is a sign of the condition known as "White-Man's Disease", a condition which I share...

...one day at a time, my friend, one day at a time.

:p

I'd really like to learn what we here call the "liscio" (that is waltzer, polka, mazurka and tango).

i pretty much hate dancing unless its the silly dancing-round-the-kitchen-when-we're-happy kinda dance my gf and i do :)

i've just had bad experiences with dancing and people who dance. they say its all about having fun and just not caring what others think - it doesn't matter if you do it well or not - but tell that to the group of people i was with who just took the piss, berated me, and made me feel like shit for trying to join in/have fun :(

i particularly hate it when people who do dance insist its fun. its not fun to me. you can't say "come on, its fun!" because to me its not. simple as that. leave me alone! *grumpy grump grump*

i've just had bad experiences with dancing and people who dance. they say its all about having fun and just not caring what others think - it doesn't matter if you do it well or not - but tell that to the group of people i was with who just took the piss, berated me, and made me feel like shit for trying to join in/have fun :(


You just gotta learn to be obnoxious and unapologetic, that's all. After all, that's how every dance craze starts:

"Hey, look at this!"
"That's awful."
"No, really - look!"
"No, that's awful"
"No, watch again!"
"Hey, that's great!"

More or less. Perseverance. :)

Nope, I don't dance, and don't want to, as it isn't particularly fun.
I've been known to sway to music, but that's about it.

I hate dancing.
I think it's a perfectly ridiculous waste of time... if I want to look stupid hopping around with others, I'll start a rope-jumping club.

I can do the swing and the tango decently, and immensely enjoy the waltz.

Also of course night clubs.

physical activity robs time away from the computer and creative thinking.

i know i have to do something to keep the body alive so it can carry the brain arround, but i don't have to like it.

cleaning the house and walking to the store are physical activity enough for me.

although i wouldn't mind building things i was allowed to design creatively, as i already do in small scale. but would really like to be able to life sized.

i don't expect this is going to happen begining at this late stage in my life though.

like naked and half naked humans, dancing is fun too watch, when even that doesn't take too much time away from things that are actually gratifying. those that involve creating and exploring.

=^^=
.../\...

I have been banned from dancing where any human being can see it happening, and the Humane Society and the ASPCA have recently demanded I be barred from engaging in terpsichoreal shennanigans in front of animals as well. Trust me, I'm so awkward that living things suffer injury from watching me move to music.

Do you dance?

Yes. And probably better than you.

Para nuestros Latinos aqui, tengo una pregunta....que significa "gozando" o "gozar". Me encanta esa cancion y querro entender todo la cancion. Gracias....

It means: to publicly denounce Pinochet and his idiotic supporters.

While drinking and while at parties or clubs.

usually while drunk, but i'm open to different options, i also got taught some old-fashioned dances (which were very embarrassing to take part in).
Strange people dancing to music, to a deaf person looks like insanity.
but i don't mind really, not many people will call you a bad dancer if you do so, unless they know what they're talking about or they're playing with you.

I hate dancing.
I think it's a perfectly ridiculous waste of time... if I want to look stupid hopping around with others, I'll start a rope-jumping club.
You've never danced salsa comparing it to jump roping is like comparing touching a woman's thigh to sex. Well, it's both body contact!
physical activity robs time away from the computer and creative thinking.
Wow you must be fat....How healthy that line of thinking is....
i know i have to do something to keep the body alive so it can carry the brain arround, but i don't have to like it.
Unfortunatly, your line of thinking is becoming more and more mainstream (if not already mainstream) in America, though without the "carry the brain" part.
cleaning the house and walking to the store are physical activity enough for me.
How unfortunate...don't you care about what your body looks like or how you feel?[/QUOTE]

Yes. And probably better than you.
Wow....an internet-insult without any kind of proof or evidence! I'm honestly hurt! How nerdy.:rolleyes:


It means: to publicly denounce Pinochet and his idiotic supporters.
Ohhhhh entiendes Espanol???? Bueno, entonces vas a entenderme: Nunca voy a decirlo. Su pais es mejor porque el assumio el Poder y hizo sus reformas politicas and economicas y guerreo contra Comunismo. Desde el reino de Pinochet, chile es el pais mas estable en Sudamérica....

Y eso es todo que voy a decir sobre esa tema. Puedes hacer un otro "thread" sobre el y que el hizo si tu querres....

Do you dance? Well, with the help of some friends, I've been really getting into salsa. Dancing with friends, going to classes and soon I'll start going to the local latin clubs.:)



Careful. You might slip and find yourself fathering some mixed-race child.

Gozar = to enjoy, actively.

Me encanta bailar...I'm not that into salsa though. I prefer cumbias and merengues, and of course, reggaeton.

Yes, when but only on parties or in a club, nothing fancy like salsa or tango or whatever.

Yes. And probably better than you. Garantizado.


It means: to publicly denounce Pinochet and his idiotic supporters.

Jajajajjjjjajajaaaaa....

Ohhhhh entiendes Espanol???? Bueno, entonces vas a entenderme: Nunca voy a decirlo. Su pais es mejor porque el assumio el Poder y hizo sus reformas politicas and economicas y guerreo contra Comunismo. Desde el reino de Pinochet, chile es el pais mas estable en Sudamérica....

How many times have I debunked your little theory...hmmm? Only to have you run away and never respond to it with anything more than 'Well, I still THINK that Pinochet was best for Chile...'

Well I guess I'll do it again.

To counter the myth of the ‘salvation of Chile by Pinochet’.

Many people credit Agusto Pinochet Urgarte with the ‘Salvation of Chile’, from the horrors of socialism. That he had a confirmed 3000 plus civilians disappeared, tortured, and murdered, and tens of thousands more confirmed tortured, is brushed away with the claim that Salvador Allende’s Chile would have been worse.

Pinochet’s crimes against humanity are, so these supporters argue, tempered by the economic success of Chile during his dictatorship, creating a South American powerhouse.

Let me debunk these notions. I’ll break this down, piece by piece.

Pinochet took power in a bloody coup on September 11, 1973. Between 1973 and 1989, Chile was the absolute model of a decentralised economy. Industries nationalized by Salvador Allende were privatised, and this privitisation continued on into the social sector. The Chicago School of Economics (http://cepa.newschool.edu/het/schools/chicago.htm) (free market libertarianism) was given free reign for 16 years in Chile in order to prove its economic model.

During those 16 years, economic growth was actually slower in Chile than in any other Latin American country. This lack of growth was by no means uniform. The GDP in Chile was average in the 60s, plummeted in the 70s (remember, Salvador Allende was only in power from 1971 – 1973, so this can not be blamed solely on him), and jumped substantially in the 80s and 90s.(1) The economy experienced major highs and major lows, and it is important to understand what was happening during those swings.

Overall, from 1960 – 2002, Chile experienced a 2.5% annual per capital GDP growth. This has outperformed all other Latin American countries. However, in the period from 1960 – 1980, 9 years of which were led by Pinochet, 3 by Allende, there was growth of only 1.6%, matched only be Venezuela, while most other nations were seeing record increases, Ecuador among the highest with 5.4%. From 1981 – 2002, Chile by far surpassed its peers with a rate of 3.2% compared to negative numbers in the neighbouring nations of Argentina, Bolivia and Peru. (2)


Chile’s main export to the world is copper. US companies owned almost all of Chile’s copper mines by the 60s. Eduardo Frei, president of Chile prior to Allende, attempted to nationalize these mines, but was blocked by the business community and failed. Allende succeeded where Frei had failed, nationalizing not only the copper industry, but also the banking industry, and other foreign-owned assets, sparking the resentment among Chile’s elites and US businessmen that eventually led to the coup.

Pinochet took the reins, but without an economic plan of his own. In 1975, inflation rose as high as 341%. He turned to a group of ‘Chicago Boys’ to extricate himself from his economic woes. From thereon in, they controlled the economy completely. The economic ‘shock treatment’ began.

Between 1974 and 1975, they managed to get inflation under control. However, at the same time, unemployment rose from 9.1% to 18.7%. Chile suffered the worst recession they’d had since the 30s. This was also a period of extreme political repression, matched only later when similar economic troubles hit the country in the ‘82.. The economic changes being wrought were not optional.

The ‘economic miracle’ often referred to when discussing Chile supposedly happened between 1978 and 1981. Chile’s economy grew at an average of 6.6% a year, a truly staggering amount. Foreign investment was a huge part of this as nearly all restrictions were lifted during this period. All but 25 of 507 state-owned enterprises were privitised during these years.

However, what is often not taken into account is the impact of the depression. Astounding economic growth did not mean that Chile was actually in a fantastic economic state…it was in essence regaining lost ground. A parallel the Great Depression suffered by the US in the 30s can be drawn. From growth rates (US) in the negatives from 1930 – 1934, to a positive growth rate of 14.1% in 1936, and yet it took many more years to get the economy back to pre-Depression levels.(3) The same was true in Chile.

So what powered this growth in Chile during the period between 1978 and 1981? Very simply, unemployed workers cut during the deep depression returned to work. ‘Growth’ in this sense was simply returning the economy to the state it had been in previous to the crash experienced directly following the coup.

“And even then, much of Chile's growth was artificial or fictitious. Between 1977 and 1981, 80 percent of Chile's growth was in the unproductive sectors of the economy, like marketing and financial services. Much of this was speculation attracted to Chile's phenomenally high interest rates, which, at 51 percent in 1977, were the highest in the world.

Chile's integration into the world market would leave it vulnerable to world market forces. The international recession that struck in 1982 hit Chile especially hard, harder than any other Latin American country. Not only did foreign capital and markets dry up, but Chile had to pay out stratospheric interest rates on its orgy of loans. Most analysts attribute the disaster both to external shocks and Chile's own deeply flawed economic policies. By 1983, Chile's economy was devastated, with unemployment soaring at one point to 34.6 percent — far worse than the U.S. Great Depression. Manufacturing production plunged 28 percent. (8) The country's biggest financial groups were in free fall, and would have collapsed completely without a massive bail-out by the state. (9) The Chicago boys resisted this measure until the situation became so critical they could not possibly avoid it.

The IMF offered loans to help Chile out of its desperate situation, but on strict conditions. Chile had to guarantee her entire foreign debt — an astounding sum of US$7.7 billion. The total bailout would cost 3 percent of Chile's GNP for each of three years. These costs were passed on to the taxpayers. It is interesting to note that when the economy was booming, profitable firms were privatized; when those firms failed, the costs of bailing them were socialized. In both cases, the rich were served. (10)

After the IMF loans came through, the Chilean economy began recovering in 1984. Again, it saw exceptionally high growth, averaging about 7.7 percent a year between 1986 and 1989. (11) But like the previous cycle, this was mostly due to actual growth, not potential growth. By 1989, the GDP per capita was still 6.1 percent below its 1981 level. (12)

So what was the record for the entire Pinochet regime? Between 1972 and 1987, the GNP per capita fell 6.4 percent. (13) In constant 1993 dollars, Chile's per capita GDP was over $3,600 in 1973. Even as late as 1993, however, this had recovered to only $3,170. (14) Only five Latin American countries did worse in per capita GDP during the Pinochet era (1974-1989). (4)

Read that again. Despite years of record growth, the recessions, the loans, the debt…Chile did not experience significant growth during the ‘miracle years’.

Chile’s poverty rate in 1989 was a staggering 41.2%. The rich however, profited mightily during Pinochet’s rule. No other Latin American country had such income inequality during these years. Widespread unemployment kept wages down, and with no real state-funded social systems to provide for the unemployed or the poor, there was no ‘loss’ to the economy, except in production. The unemployment rate, overall, was worse in Chile than in any other Latin American nation. This loss in productivity is a major reason for the inability of the economy to truly outperform it’s neighbours in total overall growth.

The free reign given to the Chicago boys was backed up by a concerted war against the civilian population. Disappearances, tortures and murders were the worst during the recession of 1975 and 1982. There was no political freedom whatsoever. (Allende allowed even his worst detractors to vilify him on the radio). Labour unions were outlawed and only reinstituted once strict controls were in place.

The free-market policies of Pinochet’s Chile had other effects, such as on the environment.(5) A lack of environmental controls is a key aspect of free-market liberalisation. Santiago, the capital of Chile, is the 5th most polluted city in the world. Chile has extremely high mortality and sickness rates, beating out many of it’s neighbours.

Chile’s economy is still growing, but nonetheless, it lags behind most other Latin American nations. Profits from Chile’s industries flow outward into foreign pockets. Chile has one of the highest foreign debts in the world. The “Economic Miracle of Chile’ is a myth.(6)

Some will say that Salvador Allende’s Chile could have been worse. We have no way to tell, no way to know. What we do know is that the economic miracle was anything but, and in return for this false miracle, Chile suffers from a legacy of brutality, repression, and horror.


(1) http://www.gdnet.org/pdf/draft_country_studies/LACSummary.pdf
(2) http://www.eclac.org/publicaciones/DesarrolloEconomico/5/LCG2255PI/lcg2255_i_V.pdf
(3) http://www.huppi.com/kangaroo/Timeline.htm
(4) http://www.huppi.com/kangaroo/L-chichile.htm
(5) http://www.foei.org/trade/activistguide/chile.htm
(6) http://www.allbusiness.com/periodicals/article/473159-1.html

anti-allende: http://www.fas.org/irp/world/chile/allende.htm
http://www.cyberussr.com/hcunn/for/chile-73.html#2D
hating them on both sides: http://www.lewrockwell.com/mcmaken/mcmaken89.html

Careful. You might slip and find yourself fathering some mixed-race child.
That's a risk I'm willing to take....
Gozar = to enjoy, actively.
"vengo gozando" I'm coming actively? How can you translate that. I keep getting highly sexual images in my mind from it. :p
Me encanta bailar...I'm not that into salsa though. I prefer cumbias and merengues, and of course, reggaeton.
Mi amiga dice que tengo que probar a bailar reggaeton porque me encanta bailar salsa...pero no se...peinso que es un poco dificil para mi porque tengo que bailar reggaeton naturalmente y....creo que no puedo hacerlo...no es en mi sangre....

The only time I really enjoy dancing is at a ceilidh to be honest

Wow....an internet-insult without any kind of proof or evidence! I'm honestly hurt! How nerdy.:rolleyes:



Ohhhhh entiendes Espanol???? Bueno, entonces vas a entenderme: Nunca voy a decirlo. Su pais es mejor porque el assumio el Poder y hizo sus reformas politicas and economicas y guerreo contra Comunismo. Desde el reino de Pinochet, chile es el pais mas estable en Sudamérica....

Y eso es todo que voy a decir sobre esa tema. Puedes hacer un otro "thread" sobre el y que el hizo si tu querres....

Wow. These online translators are getting better and better.

That's a risk I'm willing to take....

"vengo gozando" I'm coming actively? How can you translate that. I keep getting highly sexual images in my mind from it. :p The 'actively' I put in to distinguish 'gozar' from 'disfrutar' both of which can be translated as to enjoy. But you 'gozar' in a more active way. It's one of those words you just have to hear used in context more to know when you'd use it over disfrutar.

Vengo gozando...I come, enjoying (doing something enjoyable, ready to enjoy what is going on etc).

Mi amiga dice que tengo que probar a bailar reggaeton porque me encanta bailar salsa...pero no se...peinso que es un poco dificil para mi porque tengo que bailar reggaeton naturalmente y....creo que no puedo hacerlo...no es en mi sangre....

Hay algunos que no bailan bien, si son latinos o gringos, no importa. Hay otros que, porque han bailado casi toda su vida, que pueden aprender cualquier baile sin problema.

Si intentas aprender bailar el reggaeton, es posible que lograras un nivel de maestria. Pero igual, probablamente nunca vas a bailar mejor que los que bailan como parte de su cultura.

How many times have I debunked your little theory...hmmm? Only to have you run away and never respond to it with anything more than 'Well, I still THINK that Pinochet was best for Chile...'

Well I guess I'll do it again.
Ya te lo dije, puedemos discutir sobre esa tema en un otro thread....
Wow. These online translators are getting better and better.
It makes me so happy when you think I don't know something just because you can't imagine that someone who has a problem with our immigration system could possibly know Spanish. I have said it before on this reform and I quote the founders on it....For a man to be multilingual and multicultural, that is a boon. For a nation to be, that is a curse. That's what I beleive in. Also, I happen to really enjoy Latin culture, food and dance.

Shove your preconcieved notions up your ass. :)
The 'actively' I put in to distinguish 'gozar' from 'disfrutar' both of which can be translated as to enjoy. But you 'gozar' in a more active way. It's one of those words you just have to hear used in context more to know when you'd use it over disfrutar.

Vengo gozando...I come, enjoying (doing something enjoyable, ready to enjoy what is going on etc).
Ah entiendo. El esta escuchando a la musica y esta bailando y por eso lo dijo. Gracias.

Hay otros que, porque han bailado casi toda su vida, que pueden aprender cualquier baile sin problema.
Y pero eso los Blancos (Americanos) como yo tienen una problema. Solomente estoy aprendidolo ahora, cuando ya tengo 18 anos. Casi toda de la gente que estoy bailando con, ya puede bailar un poquito salsa de su familia, o si no, puede bailar otros estilos de baile....Siempre tiene algo que yo no tengo.... Pero no me importa. Estoy haciendolo por mi y no para competer con ellos.

Si intentas aprender bailar el reggaeton, es posible que lograras un nivel de maestria.
Ya tengo mi amiga. Ella es de Venezuala y ya es avanzado, porque, como tu dijiste, baile es un parte du su cultura. Ella es mi "maestra".
Pero igual, probablamente nunca vas a bailar mejor que los que bailan como parte de su cultura.
Vamos a ver...Pienso que eres correcto pero nadie puede ver que el futuro va a traer...;)

It makes me so happy when you think I don't know something just because you can't imagine that someone who has a problem with our immigration system could possibly know Spanish. I have said it before on this reform and I quote the founders on it....For a man to be multilingual and multicultural, that is a boon. For a nation to be, that is a curse. That's what I beleive in. Also, I happen to really enjoy Latin culture, food and dance.

Shove your preconcieved notions up your ass. :)

No. Your problems with immigration have nothing to do with my opinion of your Spanish. Your use of an english sentence syntax when writing Spanish implies a word for word translation, commonly used by online translators. Your word choice also implies the use of a translator, as it seems to ignore context when choosing among words with the same meaning in English.

But I will allow that you must have written some of that without an online translator, as 'assumio' is too awful for even a computer.

There is nothing preconceived about my notions. As you can see, they are quite logical and based on my observations of your ability to write Spanish.

By the way, to get the 'ñ', it's alt+164. Español.

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Yeah, I dance. Arms flailing, knees flying sideways, and head bobbing to no particular rhythm. :D

Do you dance? Well, with the help of some friends, I've been really getting into salsa. Dancing with friends, going to classes and soon I'll start going to the local latin clubs.:)

This is my favorite song to salsa to:
Abre que voy (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lqESFVKUeDg)

Salseros si llamo! Yo vengo! Yo se que te gusta yo se que te encanta abreme la puerta que vengo gozando!

Para nuestros Latinos aqui, tengo una pregunta....que significa "gozando" o "gozar". Me encanta esa cancion y querro entender todo la cancion. Gracias....

What do you guys like to dance, if you do like to dance?

Also, do you guys have any good Salsa songs you'd like to share, because my friend just created a CD of salsa music for me and since she gave it to me, I've been jamming it in my car...and I'm gonna make one myself soon and am always looking for new songs.:)

Yeah. But no specific dance.

Yeah. Latin, ballroom and disco.

I hate dancing.
I think it's a perfectly ridiculous waste of time... if I want to look stupid hopping around with others, I'll start a rope-jumping club.

"And we should consider every day lost on which we have not danced at least once."

"He who would learn to fly one day must first learn to stand and walk and run and climb and dance; one cannot fly into flying."

"I do not know what the spirit of a philosopher could more wish to be than a good dancer. For the dance is his ideal, also his fine art, finally also the only kind of piety he knows, his 'divine service.'"

Friedrich Effin' Nietzsche. :)

You've never danced salsa comparing it to jump roping is like comparing touching a woman's thigh to sex. Well, it's both body contact!

....

The difference between sex and dancing is, sex is enjoyable.
And yes, I had to learn to dance Salsa once. My parents forced me to take dancing lessons when I was a teenager. I hated it.

"And we should consider every day lost on which we have not danced at least once."

"He who would learn to fly one day must first learn to stand and walk and run and climb and dance; one cannot fly into flying."

"I do not know what the spirit of a philosopher could more wish to be than a good dancer. For the dance is his ideal, also his fine art, finally also the only kind of piety he knows, his 'divine service.'"

Friedrich Effin' Nietzsche. :)

"Having to quote others to make a point about your own opinion just shows that you don't have any opinion of your own".

Cabra Effin' West :p ;)

Do floorpunching or two-stepping count?

I used to do ballet when I was a kid.

Now my health prevents me from participating in any sort of "strenuous activity" so I only really groove a little when I'm listen to music.
I'm hoping that I might be able to work into some serious dancing again though.
It's one of my major passions.

I dance badly when I've been drinking, does that count?

I dance badly when I've been drinking, does that count?

So do I, unfortunately I only dance when I've been drinking heavily...

No. Your problems with immigration have nothing to do with my opinion of your Spanish. Your use of an english sentence syntax when writing Spanish implies a word for word translation, commonly used by online translators. Your word choice also implies the use of a translator, as it seems to ignore context when choosing among words with the same meaning in English.
Heh, fantastic. First you say "oh those translators are getting good" and then realize I havn't been using a translator and then say "your Spanish sucks". :p Naturally my word choice and thinking will be English as it's my native language and the one I think in....:rolleyes: Anyway, I've had enough of you being a armchair coach of my Spanish skills. I hardly care if I make mistakes. The whole point is to not be afraid to make mistakes so that you get practice using the languages and thinking in them, and over time eliminate your mistakes...so you'll have to exuse me if I don't get offended by your internet insults at my Spanish skills. You're pathetic.:p

By the way, to get the 'ñ', it's alt+164. Español.
I never use accents when writing in Spanish online. Takes too much time and anyone who understands the language will understand what you are writing perfectly, through context.

The difference between sex and dancing is, sex is enjoyable.
Well....they are both enjoyable to me. So it's just a matter of opinion.
And yes, I had to learn to dance Salsa once. My parents forced me to take dancing lessons when I was a teenager. I hated it.
Ah, that's the problem. Usually if you're forced to do something, you won't enjoy it...

I hate dancing. I don't think I'm coordinated enough to do it well, and it makes me nervous. I was in a swing choir for a year though, and I hated it because we had to dance.

I hate dancing. I don't think I'm coordinated enough to do it well, and it makes me nervous. I was in a swing choir for a year though, and I hated it because we had to dance.

Yes and also because you might have to dance WITH someone, and that would be, in your mind, an assault.

Uh, no.

Dancing is lame and unmanly.

I like to dance to trollish music. I would like to learn medieval choreography. I actually took ballet lessons when I was like 4, I had to choose between that and learning to speak French :D You wouldn't tell by seeing how clumsy I am.

"I've got rhythm...you got rhythm too"

yeah I dance...used to be in a breaker crew in the 80's poppin and locking back in the day :cool:

good times ;)

Well....they are both enjoyable to me. So it's just a matter of opinion.

Ah, that's the problem. Usually if you're forced to do something, you won't enjoy it...

Nah, I hated it way before that. It looked silly and ridiculous and I thought it was a stupid way to ruin good music. If you want to listen to music, you better do it without hopping around.

Yes and also because you might have to dance WITH someone, and that would be, in your mind, an assault.

I don't think I would see it as an assault... it'd be really unpleasant, but not an assault unless I didn't agree to it.

Yes I dance! And I don't know, I dance regular.