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lick their face

*didn't read OP*


edit: having read OP, advice still stands. or just get drunk. worked for me.

also: my thread now, woop! woop!

Hay all.

Been a while since I've made a thread, I know. Let's just soak it in.

*soaks*

Hmm...yeah...

Anyway. I come to thee, NSG, for advice and comradeship.

I am a freshman in his second semester of college. Though I am familiar with the city, being a "country-bumpkin" from the towns up North, I can safely call myself a "stranger in a strange land".

This is not good for someone like me. I like my privacy. I enjoy my evenings alone: playing games, watching TV, writing or reading. But even a soul such as I gets stir-crazy and lonely from time to time, and being among the most introverted in the universe I find it difficult to "hook-up" with others. It takes A LONG ASS TIME for me to get to know anyone, I don't like to "go out on a limb" or "take risks" (I don't know why? Fear of rejection? I'm not sure I'm THAT insecure), and I HATE making phone calls (can you say "awkward silence". I just tried calling one of the few contacts I have on my cell...and it was just that).

The result: A batshit insane young man without any real contacts with others outside his dorm and will likely NEVER get a girlfriend.

*sigh*

I've never even been on a date. There, I friggin' admit it.

I must be strange because just about everyone else I know my age already has a "posse" around campus. I am by no means trying to rush things, I just feel as though I am falling behind.

Sure, I go to a club on campus, but the only time I ever see them is during the meetings (mostly since many commute in from around the city).

SO!

In this thread, I ask thee, NSG, for advice...on how to meet/communicate with people. I converse well enough when I'm face to face with another, but its in GETTING there that I suck.

ALSO!

Because I am not so naive to think that I am the only one with this problem, I officially declare this thread the "Sign Here if you're an Introverted Homebuddy" Thread...for introverts to meet and converse...

...how oxymoronical...

in the same boat here...

so if you don't mind, gonna book mark this thread and possibly take notes myself. :)

That'll be me next year

Bookmarking this thread, just in case anyone says something helpful ;) Apart from the requisite changes of gender, location, etc., that describes my problem almost exactly.

EDIT: Seems I'm by far not the only one either!

I must be strange because just about everyone else I know my age already has a "posse" around campus. I am by no means trying to rush things, I just feel as though I am falling behind.

Oh please! Those are the types of people who are so afraid of being alone with their own thoughts, they gravitate towards others of the same ilk - like a herd mentality. They'll become bored of each other and drift away by the end of the year.

When I was in first year in University (that's Freshman right?), one of my Philosophy lecturer's said the following on the very first day Take a good look to your new friends on your left.... and now your right.... . Good. Because by the end of the year here, you'll either not want to know them, or you'll have realised they're idiots.

It take time to sort out a good bunch of friends - took me a year - year and a half. Now, I'm very close to some of them while the rest have drifted away, and that was a good 4 or 5 years ago. :)


In this thread, I ask thee, NSG, for advice...on how to meet/communicate with people. I converse well enough when I'm face to face with another, but its in GETTING there that I suck.

Join a sports club - not a big serious one, even one you've now interest in. But just see who the people are and what they're like. It works! They say the people you exercise/sweat around form strong bonds (something to do with chemicals released in the sweat I think).

But above all, don't lock yourself in your room and be here all the time! :D

So basically, my task is to watch this thread and wait for advice to pop up?
Yay.

Get really really drunk and you'll have some strange memory fragments to share with people, and build a friendship on.

As perhaps the most socially inept person you will ever encounter, here's my advice:

Give up on society. You'll never figure it out, and it won't like you even if you did.

Just be content being yourself, being by yourself, and don't worry about it. The most important part of being socially inept is to abandon the socially ept's preconception about how life should work. Just do what you like, and only bother talking with people you like (which is probably a really small group).

I was in exactly the same situation as you until I was 23.

I think some good advice would be to join groups that do some of the same things you like. There are all sorts of clubs for just about every hobby out there. Look them up on the net. If you don't have any hobbies find some.
As for the dating issue I would suggest some good old fashioned Internet dating. At least you will get out of the house and meet some different people even if you don't hook up. It may be therapeutic.
I believe having good contacts and friends in life are the key to a happy life. Get your asses out there and stop watching tv or playing games all night. There is a great big world out there.

Oh please! Those are the types of people who are so afraid of being alone with their own thoughts, they gravitate towards others of the same ilk - like a herd mentality. They'll become bored of each other and drift away by the end of the year.

That's what I've been hearing, along with the fact that it does, in fact, take time. Comforting thoughts, to be sure.

Join a sports club...

*sweatdrop*

Ehh...I'm going to be honest with you. I hate most of what people consider "sports".

But above all, don't lock yourself in your room and be here all the time! :D

That song "There is Life Outside Your Apartment" just ran through my head.

lick their face

*didn't read OP*


edit: having read OP, advice still stands. or just get drunk. worked for me.

also: my thread now, woop! woop!

*Revs chainsaw* :D

Get really really drunk and you'll have some strange memory fragments to share with people, and build a friendship on.

Good way to meet some great new friends in Jail. ;)

Join more clubs and such. I.e. don't do things just to meet new people, but do things and, as a side-effect, meet new people. Bah, you know what I mean.

Seriously, I don't think I have EVER met anyone who became more than a fleeting relationship in a bar or pub or whatever other random place there is.
All the people that became my friends or partners I knew through common friends, school, work, basically things we were both doing where we got to know each other on a solely friendly level. No pressure, no awkwardness.

Meh, I suck at writing today (or always) but you get the point.

I hate to be the guy who doesn't really help but I'm going to have to throw this up anyway because its actually how I have always done it:

you are going to just have to start talking to people, though you should of done this as soon as you arrived what it entails is when in situation like lets say a lunch line (I have no idea how your school works) talk to the person on either side and then tag along with them just be nice and you will make friends

yeah that sounds like a head case thing to do and sometimes I don't do it (I am rather insecure sometimes) but what I do is just think of what a monkey would do

I could go onto how to get a date but I don't even think I'm helping with my advice already

I've never even been on a date. There, I friggin' admit it.

I have always been confused by this, is there a rule in America where you have to take women on 3 dates before she wants sex? does this have anything to do with 3 wise men?

*Revs chainsaw* :D

*run for the hills*

oh, bugger, they've got eyes.

in the same boat here...

so if you don't mind, gonna book mark this thread and possibly take notes myself. :)

My god man you live in HAWAII! You have no excuses my friend unless of course you live on one of the uninhabited islands.

I don't know man, smoke more pot? Made me friends...


Of course it will but then you get phone calls late at night. Dude you know where I can score some weed?

I could go onto how to get a date but I don't even think I'm helping with my advice already

Yeh... one thing I've learned is don't get relationship advice from NSG.


I have always been confused by this, is there a rule in America where you have to take women on 3 dates before she wants sex? does this have anything to do with 3 wise men?

Wait, what? Damn. All we do is get them really drunk.


..... what?

I don't know man, smoke more pot? Made me friends...

I have always been confused by this, is there a rule in America where you have to take women on 3 dates before she wants sex? does this have anything to do with 3 wise men?

One thing I liked about the UK was how easy the women were compared to the US ones. Hardly had to spend a dime. ;)

Of course it will but then you get phone calls late at night. Dude you know where I can score some weed?

I watched too much Miami Vice as a kid and never give references...

I watched too much Miami Vice as a kid and never give references...

No joke there.....

One thing I liked about the UK was how easy the women were compared to the US ones. Hardly had to spend a dime. ;)

thats because are women like it ;)

As for the dating issue I would suggest some good old fashioned Internet dating.

I hear plentyoffish.com is rather good for this (in the sense of getting laid anyway), though I wouldn't try Internet dating until your 25 and still single

As perhaps the most socially inept person you will ever encounter, here's my advice:

Give up on society. You'll never figure it out, and it won't like you even if you did.

Just be content being yourself, being by yourself, and don't worry about it. The most important part of being socially inept is to abandon the socially ept's preconception about how life should work. Just do what you like, and only bother talking with people you like (which is probably a really small group).

I was in exactly the same situation as you until I was 23.

I second this, and approve of the neologism 'ept'.

Give up on society. You'll never figure it out, and it won't like you even if you did.

Just be content being yourself, being by yourself, and don't worry about it. The most important part of being socially inept is to abandon the socially ept's preconception about how life should work. Just do what you like, and only bother talking with people you like (which is probably a really small group).


I'd love to, but surviving without being able to speak to most people could get a little difficult what with shopping and requiring a job and all *continues the research*

I can't reply to everyone all at once without the server kicking my ass, so I'd just like to thank everyone for their advice thus far.

Yes, I am aware that I need to go out on a limb some more, and a good way to do that is join more clubs. But as nursing student, my plates already as full as it is going to get. My studies take priority.

I'll try simply talking to people more. Joining in on conversations.

As for simply giving up on society: believe me, I've thought of it. Society sucks! It's noisy, full of bad drivers and wanton jerkasses. But yeah, I can understand just talking to the people I "like". Problem is, there are people I like on campus. But like I said, I suck at "putting myself forward."

Does that make me a follower? A waffling sissyboy? I don't know. What do you think? :p

Does that make me a follower? A waffling sissyboy? I don't know. What do you think? :p

It simply means you are lacking at being assertive, nothing more. Plenty of people are like this. The best way you can probably cope with it is find something to break the ice with people. Like, say, asking them for their help with your coursework given your college situation. During such you can probe their interests in other things and eventually you'll develop a friendship. From that experience, I'm confident you can make others since the initial fear is dispelled. The first step is always the hardest.

I'd love to, but surviving without being able to speak to most people could get a little difficult what with shopping and requiring a job and all *continues the research*
Not really. Shopping can be done almost exclusively online (trust me), and many vocations requre very little social interaction.

When interviewing for this job, I came right out in the interview and said "I have no social skills." I figured if that was a problem, I wouldn't want that job anyway.

......nursing student.......waffling sissyboy.......

Yeah, I went there.

It simply means you are lacking at being assertive, nothing more. Plenty of people are like this. The best way you can probably cope with it is find something to break the ice with people. Like, say, asking them for their help with your coursework given your college situation. During such you can probe their interests in other things and eventually you'll develop a friendship. From that experience, I'm confident you can make others since the initial fear is dispelled. The first step is always the hardest.

I've met with people for study sessions and chatted with them afterwards. Certainly helps. I don't like pretense (again, I make my life more difficult), but I'll certainly take it under consideration.

Thanks for your advice.

Cultivate solitary hobbies.

You have a slight disadvantage in that you're in the USA, where the people are generally quite friendly. You being distant or withdrawn will stand out more than if you were somewhere the people tended to be polite and reserved.

Yeah, I went there.

If you will allow a little bit of hubris...

Who do you think is more secure in his masculinity: the man who drives the Hummer for the sake of it, or the man willing to go into a field largely associated with women because its what he wants to do with his life?

:p

Yes. I r bad.

set up or join study groups in your major classes--like minded people who you are likely to see over and over again.

if someone asks you to a party, GO.

if there is an open party near you on the weekend, GO.

if you find a girl attractive (and are able to talk to her) ASK HER OUT.

hang out at the coffee shop/student union/(or wherever) and join in on the heated discussions just like you might do here.

join *shudder* the college group of whatever religion you grew up in. (easy if your catholic. if you are snake-handling-pentacostal, maybe not so easy)

I find that the easiest ice-breaker is just to wear something really bizzare. People notice you a lot more when you've got, say, a kilt on and many will come up and talk to you. It eliminates the need for you to make the first step and gives you an immediate topic of conversation. As an added bonus, it even makes you seem more confident.

i was serious when i said get drnk btw. i was a social retard til i discovered booze. now i'm just a retard.

I find that the easiest ice-breaker is just to wear something really bizzare. People notice you a lot more when you've got, say, a kilt on and many will come up and talk to you. It eliminates the need for you to make the first step and gives you an immediate topic of conversation. As an added bonus, it even makes you seem more confident.

Actually, I second this. I went to college dressed like a pirate one day. It was awesome.

I was in the same boat.. .positively antisocial. Here's what I did.

Pick a fairly slow day, and take over the TV lounge in the Student Union building. Watch ONLY shows you love. Talk with anybody who comes in, looks at what you're watching, and doesn't leave.

Okay, the first other person I met turned out to be a pathological liar and a sociopath... but the second person introduced me to some people I'm still friends with, 15 years later.

Oh, and if you're watching Star Trek, and a girl sits down... marry her. Propose right there. Don't wait. Trekkie girls almost invariably :fluffle: like minks. I don't know why. ;)

I find that the easiest ice-breaker is just to wear something really bizzare. People notice you a lot more when you've got, say, a kilt on and many will come up and talk to you. It eliminates the need for you to make the first step and gives you an immediate topic of conversation. As an added bonus, it even makes you seem more confident.

this is good advice too. also, socks. interesting socks are a great thing. especially if they don't match. people seem to be fascinated by people who don't care if their socks match. it stops them in their tracks. i don't know why.

Hmmm...well, seeing as I have no assertiveness whatsoever and am a sophomore in his second marking period of high school, and your situation sounds a shit-like-mine with a few minor details added in/taken out...

I'm going to sign up for this 'Introverted Homebuddy Religion'! All hail Bolol!

set up or join study groups in your major classes--like minded people who you are likely to see over and over again.

Simple enough. Makes sense. But just FTR, none of the people in any of my classes are "like minded"...if you know what I mean.

if someone asks you to a party, GO.

if there is an open party near you on the weekend, GO.

I don't particularly love parties (yep, just piling on the nonsense, I know), mostly because of past experiences. Claustrophobic environments, hot, humid, noisy, REALLY bad music, awkward/pointless conversation.

On the other hand, if someone whom I was relatively similar too asked me to go to a party, I would go, absolutely. I imagine a party peopled by gamers/otakus/armchair physicists would be significantly different than the generic frat party.

But yeah, I know, I realize I need to step outside my comfort zone every so often. So I'll see what can be done.

if you find a girl attractive (and are able to talk to her) ASK HER OUT.

Given the right amount of self-cajoling I would. Problem with me is, all the girls I like already have boyfriends.

*Price is Right failure theme*

hang out at the coffee shop/student union/(or wherever) and join in on the heated discussions just like you might do here.

join *shudder* the college group of whatever religion you grew up in. (easy if your catholic. if you are snake-handling-pentacostal, maybe not so easy)

I'll try hanging around the campus coffeehouse more often, work permitting. And I'm going to be flat out honest here, I don't want to join a religious group. :p

Try Margaritaville. (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MUTf5qvS0Lo) :)

Simple enough. Makes sense. But just FTR, none of the people in any of my classes are "like minded"...if you know what I mean.



I don't particularly love parties (yep, just piling on the nonsense, I know), mostly because of past experiences. Claustrophobic environments, hot, humid, noisy, REALLY bad music, awkward/pointless conversation.

On the other hand, if someone whom I was relatively similar too asked me to go to a party, I would go, absolutely. I imagine a party peopled by gamers/otakus/armchair physicists would be significantly different than the generic frat party.

But yeah, I know, I realize I need to step outside my comfort zone every so often. So I'll see what can be done.



Given the right amount of self-cajoling I would. Problem with me is, all the girls I like already have boyfriends.

*Price is Right failure theme*



I'll try hanging around the campus coffeehouse more often, work permitting. And I'm going to be flat out honest here, I don't want to join a religious group. :p

i have a single friend from my classes and i haven't spoken to him in months. all the friends i've kept are people i lived with, and i didn't know a single one of them before i lived with them. that said, i dislike my current flatmates.

This was simple advice I gave to my sister on her first day at university but it's predicated on whether you smoke, which she did.

I told her to go into the common room without a lighter, that way, her addiction would at least force her to ask for a lighter - she did and then easily fell into conversation.

Well, you can make other excuses - see someone you think may be on a similar wavelength - go and ask for some sugar.

Simple devices like this break the ice in a non-threatening manner, unlike say, dressing as a Tyrannosaurus Rex and heading to lectures.

I actually feel like I'm becoming less socially inept and isolated. I've been to friend's houses like 3 times this month already. In previous years I only ever socialized outside of school at like Halloween or my birthday. And I invited 15 people to my birthday party this year! 15! And I've made several new friends this year, and someone said that I don't seem as shy as I did before. I don't know what's happening to me. Maybe this is good though, I don't know. It felt weird, being invited to someone's house. And two people invited me to their house on the same day once, even!

Hay all.

Been a while since I've made a thread, I know. Let's just soak it in.

*soaks*

Hmm...yeah...

Anyway. I come to thee, NSG, for advice and comradeship.

I am a freshman in his second semester of college. Though I am familiar with Boston (F***in' A), being a "country-bumpkin" from the towns up North, I can safely call myself a "stranger in a strange land".

This is not good for someone like me. I like my privacy. I enjoy my evenings alone: playing games, watching TV, writing or reading. But even a soul such as I gets stir-crazy and lonely from time to time, and being among the most introverted in the universe I find it difficult to "hook-up" with others. It takes A LONG ASS TIME for me to get to know anyone, I don't like to "go out on a limb" or "take risks" (I don't know why? Fear of rejection? I'm not sure I'm THAT insecure), and I HATE making phone calls (can you say "awkward silence". I just tried calling one of the few contacts I have on my cell...and it was just that).

The result: A batshit insane young man without any real contacts with others outside his dorm and will likely NEVER get a girlfriend.

*sigh*

I've never even been on a date. There, I friggin' admit it.

I must be strange because just about everyone else I know my age already has a "posse" around campus. I am by no means trying to rush things, I just feel as though I am falling behind.

Sure, I go to a club on campus, but the only time I ever see them is during the meetings (mostly since many commute in from around the city).

SO!

In this thread, I ask thee, NSG, for advice...on how to meet/communicate with people. I converse well enough when I'm face to face with another, but its in GETTING there that I suck.

ALSO!

Because I am not so naive to think that I am the only one with this problem, I officially declare this thread the "Sign Here if you're an Introverted Homebuddy" Thread...for introverts to meet and converse...

...how oxymoronical...

I'm no expert but here's my humble suggestions:

1) Drop the negative attitude. Noone likes whining bitches.
2) Be positive. This is like the first advice but it's so important that it also deserves to be the second one.
3) If it's a decent sized college, there should be all sorts of people. You said you liked writing? Isnt there a writing club or something? Try to join organisations which you have an interest for so you can meet with people with common interests. And it's easy to talk with those sort of people.
4) Work out. Better body --> more girls. Also those endorphins will make you more positive.
5) Be friendly to your dorm buddies so you can meet with their friends.
6) Go to parties and drink, the rest will follow.
7) Good luck and have fun!

I actually feel like I'm becoming less socially inept and isolated. I've been to friend's houses like 3 times this month already. In previous years I only ever socialized outside of school at like Halloween or my birthday. And I invited 15 people to my birthday party this year! 15! And I've made several new friends this year, and someone said that I don't seem as shy as I did before. I don't know what's happening to me. Maybe this is good though, I don't know. It felt weird, being invited to someone's house. And two people invited me to their house on the same day once, even!

Awesome for you. :)

But this means you've drifted outside our circle of collective isolation. :eek:
:(

Oh I forgot:

8) Volunteer for frosh activities next term.
9) Go to your dorm's floor events.

If you will allow a little bit of hubris...

Who do you think is more secure in his masculinity: the man who drives the Hummer for the sake of it, or the man willing to go into a field largely associated with women because its what he wants to do with his life?

:p

Yes. I r bad.

The man who drives the Hummer for the sake of it, because that means he's just that badass. :P

I'm no expert but here's my humble suggestions:

1) Drop the negative attitude. Noone likes whining bitches.


^ this!

also, people tend to follow me around like I'm special or something, so I don't know, other than be friendly, say witty/funny/insane things to catch their attention and then lay back and wait for them to get bored then say something completely awesome again!

also, (I say also way too much!)

also, uh.....like keep in touch with people, but not creepy stalker like, and remember something about them, so like if you meet someone and they tell you their dog is sick, as soon as you like are out of sight write it down then when you talk to them the next day and stuff be like "is your dog feeling any better?" they will totally feel loved and be your friend. *nod*

*hides from her friends who might be offended at her notebook o' random facts*

4) Work out. Better body --> more girls.

such lies!

real women like lazy men who are good at making snappy remarks at the television :cool:

Awesome for you. :)

But this means you've drifted outside our circle of collective isolation. :eek:
:(

I still prefer being online here to being in the outside world with people...

I still prefer being online here to being in the outside world with people...

but NS is full of people...isn't it?!

such lies!

real women like lazy men who are good at making snappy remarks at the television :cool:

http://www.paulbolstad.net/images/galleries/more%20fun%20pics/images/lazy%20cat.jpg

1) Drop the negative attitude. Noone likes whining bitches.
2) Be positive. This is like the first advice but it's so important that it also deserves to be the second one.

-_-

I though I had formed my post to sound anything but negative. I have a healthy self-respect/

3) If it's a decent sized college, there should be all sorts of people. You said you liked writing? Isnt there a writing club or something? Try to join organisations which you have an interest for so you can meet with people with common interests. And it's easy to talk with those sort of people.

As I stated, I haven't the time to go to too many clubs. I'll see what I can do.

4) Work out. Better body --> more girls. Also those endorphins will make you more positive.

I wouldn't want to hook up with a girl based solely on my looks. But I've been trying to go to the gym more often for health reasons.

And I have enough positivity, methinks.

6) Go to parties and drink, the rest will follow.

Parties? Yes. Drinking? No.

Never touched the stuff. See no reason TO touch the stuff. Without going into too much detail, my health would get in the way, and I'm underage.

Yeah, I'm a lamer, I know...[/epic sarcasm]

7) Good luck and have fun!

I'll try! Thanks! :D

He, I feel pretty good. I live in one of those places in the U.S. where the only thing to do after-school is to choose between Target and Wal-Mart.

LOL

I have quite a few friends, and I can hear you flipping out your switchblades at that statement.

I really don't have enough money for going to resturants with friends (another option), but hey I'm gonna get a job soon so I can do that. Right now, I spend my little amounts of money on my i-Pod, because and I'm kind of quoting my friend

"Everyone has their thing that they like to do, that youy spend their money on, I spend my money on souping up my car, some people like video games, they have every console and every game right when it comes out, some people like manga they go to the book store and get bunches of manga, and some people like Warhammer, I know one of my friends likes it, he tried to get me into it, I spent 100 bucks on it and I'm like, enough, Warhammer is all right, but i don't want to spent 2 grand on it."

That's just me though, I'm spending my money on my i-pod and getting my car to pass state inspection. Its some 1980's Chevy, I dont want to go outside to look at it and find all of the info. LOL

Anyways, someone said to lose weight. I mean, I kind of have a GF but Im slightly pudgy, I like going outdoors and doing stuff. I am planining to go to Virginia tech for college/university. It is next to the woods and caves, so I want to go hiking to lose some weight, and I like do do it too, its not like going to gym because i dont want to do it. I like the hiking in the woods and descending into caves aspect. Well, sorry for all that and the sucky spelling, that was a quick forey into my personal life.

I wouldn't want to hook up with a girl based solely on my looks.

Try it once first, before you say that.

I've been wondering... does all this count as being blessed with suck?

1) Drop the negative attitude. Noone likes whining bitches.

Cynicism/Genre Savviness and whining/complaining/pedantry are what I'm good at though, so what's the point of acting optimistic to gain friends if it's the opposite of a natural state of mind. I'm not very good at maintaining façades anyway, so I can't see how that could end well.

I can act positive, try to raise morale or generally rally a group into doing something, but it's generally when nobody else will, and still only realistically hopeful (oxymoron I know, couldn't think of a better way).

I though I had formed my post to sound anything but negative. I have a healthy self-respect/

My self-respect swings around wildly all the time, and my apparent self-respect and actual self-respect are different half the time. It's not really a conscious or controllable thing as far as I can tell, but I might just not be trying hard enough to reign all the stuff that is happening on its own in.

Never touched the stuff. See no reason TO touch the stuff.

You're the one that knows what TVTropes is right?... I'm starting to get a little scared now :eek:

Try it once first, before you say that.

Why don't you try explain what it actually achieves, instead of saying that he should figure it out?

Cynicism/Genre Savviness and whining/complaining/pedantry are what I'm good at though, so what's the point of acting optimistic to gain friends if it's the opposite of a natural state of mind. I'm not very good at maintaining façades anyway, so I can't see how that could end well.

I can act positive, try to raise morale or generally rally a group into doing something, but it's generally when nobody else will, and still only realistically hopeful (oxymoron I know, couldn't think of a better way).

My self-respect swings around wildly all the time, and my apparent self-respect and actual self-respect are different half the time. It's not really a conscious or controllable thing as far as I can tell, but I might just not be trying hard enough to reign all the stuff that is happening on its own in.

There is no reason in creating a needless false facade. You feel like saying hello to everyone and holding the door open for those behind you. Go right ahead. You feel like being a pseudo-nihilistic prick with a tendency to shout "The end is nigh!"...Fuck yeah (won't be too popular though).

And on that level, one should know that there is some level of "tact" in translating how you feel into how you act. You might feel like screaming "You mindless sheep! Can you not see the coming darkness!", but some may argue that you need another outlet. :p

As for self respect, just know that you are a unique individual with qualities and skills that others may lack...and who's NOT perfect. You think I'd be posting here, asking for advice if I didn't acknowledge that I'm not perfect?

You're the one that knows what TVTropes is right?... I'm starting to get a little scared now :eek:

Yes...yes I am. Can I help you with something today? :D

Why don't you try explain what it actually achieves, instead of saying that he should figure it out?


Hmm...

All right. I need some sleep. Thanks to everyone who posted advice. I shall see thee in the morning.

All right. I need some sleep. Thanks to everyone who posted advice. I shall see thee in the morning.

Make sure you take some of the advice. Maybe in the near future you won't be going off to sleep by yourself. ;)

To the guy who said all that stuff on P. 1:

Be thankful your school even has a social scene. :p Mine did not. Something like 1% of students lived on-campus, and I never even caught wind of a party occurring anywhere near the place in all my years there.

Anyhow, as for being 'socially inept,' I say: don't label yourself. I haven't attended a social event myself in more than a decade, have never dated (etc.), but I would never label myself anti-social or non-social (whatever) because I may decide to some time. Predicting failure doesn't help anything. ;)

Where in Boston do you go? I may be able to help you a bit, get you to know some people around the city...otherwise, I may be able to direct you to places that are good to meet new people.

edit: I think it's fair to mention that after scanning the thread, my roommates and I have "adopted" several underclassmen in recent years, and have several friends who don't drink. Hit me up by TG if you want, or here works too

1st, relax. 2, stop caring, I'm serious, just don't give a fuck. Stop worrying about getting rejected or what people will think. You won't meet anyone unless you try to meet people. Go up to anyone and just say hi, whats the worst they will do? Or go up to a pretty girl and tell her you think she's pretty. who knows, she may even want to talk to you then. University should be best time in anyone's life, you should just go for it and live it up.

And on that level, one should know that there is some level of "tact" in translating how you feel into how you act. You might feel like screaming "You mindless sheep! Can you not see the coming darkness!", but some may argue that you need another outlet. :p

Oh yeah, my expression when I'm out in public, without my friends at not alone SCREEEAMS tact :p

I don't really like shouting though, unless I'm angry.

On an unrelated note one of my friends jokingly believes that I'm going to end up ruling/destroying the world someday, he gave me a book of possible doomsday senarios for my birthday.

As for self respect, just know that you are a unique individual with qualities and skills that others may lack...and who's NOT perfect. You think I'd be posting here, asking for advice if I didn't acknowledge that I'm not perfect?

Oh I know I'm not perfect, quick to anger when someone messes with my personal effects and for some other reasons. Almost complete inability to initate conversation with people I don't know under normal conditions. And then on the other hand I can type faster than the rest of my immediate family.

Then the list goes on...

Yes...yes I am. Can I help you with something today? :D

It's just you're starting to remind me of me, it's a scary thought on several levels. I guess the difference between us as far as this thread is concerned is that you're trying to fix yourself because you want to, whereas I'm interested in this thread more because (real or perceived) neccessity.

--snips OP--
YAY!! I'M NOT ALONE!!!! *dances* :D

Get really really drunk and you'll have some strange memory fragments to share with people, and build a friendship on.

Why not just make shit up and say you did it under the influence of energy drinks or sleep deprivation or something?
Someone will surely take the bait and spend a long time around you giving you shit to eat/drink/smoke/shoot in hopes you'll entertain them.

Meh, I suck at writing today (or always) but you get the point.

Or, as WYTYG reminded me, stalk some interesting (and/or mega-sexy) people and compare notes with other stalkers.

*run for the hills*

oh, bugger, they've got eyes.
No ... that's "The Last Mimzy".
http://www.iht.com/articles/ap/2007/04/07/america/NA-ODD-US-Wrong-Movie.php
Easy mistake, though. *consoles*

Yeh... one thing I've learned is don't get relationship advice from NSG.


WTF? I said i was "sorry" about a zillion times! :mad:

The first step is always the hardest.<.< >.>
The first cut is the deepest.

I'm also very inept socially. I used to try but all I got in return was nightmares, probably for life. Jesus Christ, when will I forget that day when a girl practically dragged me away to get lunch together, the awkward silence and how she avoided me from that day on. :(

But you know, Bolol, if you have the ability talk to people, even if you don't like it, and actually enjoy it once you get to know them, I really don't see any reason for you to despair. Friendships and relationships are bound to come in time. Just follow the good advice in this thread to speed things up a bit.

The only way to get to know people is to talk to them. And as you evidently perceive knowing people as a good thing, then the only thing to do is go out and work at making friendships. There's no point taking the easy way out and not bothering as you clearly want to meet more people.

That said, it's easier to do if you find something you both enjoy doing and talking about, thus the comments about joining clubs about things you like. Easier conversation comes with increased exposure to people, unless you're just very talkative.

Realise that you will make mistakes. But don't feel totally downed by them, use the experience to improve for next time you try. Accept that you won't get on easily with everyone you meet, but you may hit it off with someone you didn't expect.

Good luck :) Uni is really the best time to discover about yourself.

but NS is full of people...isn't it?!

Yeah but it's not face to face so it's different and not as hard to talk.

Yeah but it's not face to face so it's different and not as hard to talk.
The lack of eye contact, body language, and tone of voice makes it much easier for some people to handle the interaction.

Autistic people, for example, love the internet for its social aspects, because they're largely incapable to interacting with others in person.

Join more clubs and such. I.e. don't do things just to meet new people, but do things and, as a side-effect, meet new people. Bah, you know what I mean.

Seriously, I don't think I have EVER met anyone who became more than a fleeting relationship in a bar or pub or whatever other random place there is.
All the people that became my friends or partners I knew through common friends, school, work, basically things we were both doing where we got to know each other on a solely friendly level. No pressure, no awkwardness.

Meh, I suck at writing today (or always) but you get the point.

I agree in principle, but I would point out I met my girlfriend at Freshers Ball, we talked for about 6 hours (then promptly spent the next two months in an emotional mess, before she decided quite sensibly that I was in fact nicer and better looking than anyone else...:D) which was essentially the same as a bar or club. Perhaps University Fresher's weeks are different (actually, they probably are), but all the same, it is possible.

I really can empathise with those bemoaning the world in this thread. I found approaching people massively difficult before university; three months or so in and I'm genuinely happy for the first time in a long time. Just try and find people who look either easy to approach, drunk, or "your sort" of person. Most people are rarely as confidant or imposing as they appear and all that crap really...

The lack of eye contact, body language, and tone of voice makes it much easier for some people to handle the interaction.

Autistic people, for example, love the internet for its social aspects, because they're largely incapable to interacting with others in person.

According to my mother when I was a children I was only a few symptoms off of being diagnosed with autism, and actually diagnosed with borderline OCD. Needless to say I really like it around here, although the one thing from your first sentence is tone of voice.

I'm attracted to the cousin of my half-sister. And we're not related. And I found out she's 12, even though she looks significantly older (like, upon meeting her, I thought she was older than me). I'm 16. How am I supposed to approach this without appearing creepy as hell?

by not doing so.

Make sure you take some of the advice. Maybe in the near future you won't be going off to sleep by yourself. ;)

you mean people actually enjoy being cramped and sweaty?

Autistic people, for example, love the internet for its social aspects, because they're largely incapable to interacting with others in person.

I'm so glad I'm bad at maths right now :p

I'm attracted to the cousin of my half-sister. And we're not related. And I found out she's 12, even though she looks significantly older (like, upon meeting her, I thought she was older than me). I'm 16. How am I supposed to approach this without appearing creepy as hell?

by not doing so.

Like, not even trying? What if she has the hots for me too, despite having only spent a few minutes in the car with me?

Like, not even trying? What if she has the hots for me too, despite having only spent a few minutes in the car with me?

even if she does shes 12....do you know what 12 year old girls are like?!

even if she does shes 12....do you know what 12 year old girls are like?!

Yes, but now I'm serving ten to twenty, and I ain't talkin' 'bout fast food here.

even if she does shes 12....do you know what 12 year old girls are like?!

Vaguely...

Vaguely...

Actually, I shall amend that:

No. I have no idea.

even if she does shes 12....do you know what 12 year old girls are like?!
I like my women how I like my scotch. Twelve years old and mixed with coke!

I HATE making phone calls (can you say "awkward silence". I just tried calling one of the few contacts I have on my cell...and it was just that).

That's quite OK. Some people are MORE comfortable on the phone than face-to-face. Some of us find something worrying and insincere about being restricted to "tone-of-voice" as the only way to read another's mood.

You can even turn this to your advantage. Study body-language (gestures and posture) and you'll have a level of understanding "face-to-face" which many people don't. Try not to fake it too much yourself, though.

I'm just saying, because I hate phone conversations. Question, answer, response, OK bye.

I like my women how I like my scotch. Twelve years old and mixed with coke!

Ewe!
(If it's twelve years old, it ain't a human woman.)

Like, not even trying? What if she has the hots for me too, despite having only spent a few minutes in the car with me?

Ugh. Didn't you watch 'Scared Straight' in school? Seriously:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=amejHo1q_28

...unless you were either joking or are from West Virginia, in which case: :p

I'm attracted to the cousin of my half-sister. And we're not related. And I found out she's 12, even though she looks significantly older (like, upon meeting her, I thought she was older than me). I'm 16. How am I supposed to approach this without appearing creepy as hell?Take you time to consider the options, like say, 6 years or so.
If you haven't figured out what to do by then ask again.

Advice for the "Socially Inept"

Talk to people. If you get along that's great, if not they will probably just think you're weird, and they were probably thinking that before hand anyway.
Seriously, if it's someone you go to a club/society with, a class/workmate, someone you see everyday on your commute, or a random stranger you meet at a party or on the street.

If you have trouble working up to talking try saying hi, it's a common courtesy at the least, a gauge of how sociable the person is at that particular moment in time and it's a way to start a conversation. "Hi, how are you?"
You don't always have to just respond with "I'm fine" when people ask you that either: tell them you're tired because you studied/partied all night, say you're bummed you didn't do so well in that match/test, or that you did.
Usually they'll have some response to that.

Greet service people - they're human too. Ask the clerk ringing up your groceries how they are, tell them you're planning on having your parents/friends/partner round for supper tonight and that's why you bought all this stuff.

Sincerely compliment someone. Not everyday, like once a week, every two weeks - you see the girl working at the pizza place has a nice smile, tell her, or someone's dressed nicely, or the gardener did a nice job, whatever. Not only are you making someone else happy, you're practising being confident and using your people skills.

Don't feel you have to have twenty-zillion friends either.
Be with people you want to be with and who's company you enjoy, not people who irritate you and you hang around just because you don't want to be alone. There's nothing at all wrong with being alone.

Ugh. Didn't you watch 'Scared Straight' in school? Seriously:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=amejHo1q_28

...unless you were either joking or are from West Virginia, in which case: :p

I'm from West Virginia, you jerk. As for this thread...

As I sit at the computer, surrounded by 35 of my dearest friends constantly applauding me and thanking me for my bravado and gravitas (as it makes them look cooler just to be near me), my advice is this:

Either you've got it, or you don't. Spectacularity is not something that can be taught. Clearly, you don't have it, so just stay out of the way of those of us that do. Seriously, don't slow me down. I'm one of the beautiful people out there that you long to be, and if you get in my way, I will crush you.

Hey, what do you know? I just got a box of chocolates from one of my many, many admirers.

I hope this helped.

That's quite OK. Some people are MORE comfortable on the phone than face-to-face. Some of us find something worrying and insincere about being restricted to "tone-of-voice" as the only way to read another's mood.

You can even turn this to your advantage. Study body-language (gestures and posture) and you'll have a level of understanding "face-to-face" which many people don't. Try not to fake it too much yourself, though.

I'm just saying, because I hate phone conversations. Question, answer, response, OK bye.

I suck at phone calls, I have panic attacks before them. I have decided to communicate through email and in person for the rest of my life. *nod*

I prefer face to face conversation, don't mind phone calls but sometimes the signal can cut out (i don't have a landline phone in my flat). As for internet some good some bad, but it's easy to misread what someone says, whereas face to face it's far easier to sense sarcasm etc.
As for advice, whatever makes you happy do more of as long as other people aren't hurt by it, unless they deserve it. Well that's what i try to do, but don't always suceed.

Best advice coming from somebody who has slept with over 30 girls from age 17-22 Dont give a crap what girls think, dress nice and smile and dont be afraid to ask a girl out my secret and the code i live by when it comes to girls.....The worse thing they can say is no!!never hurts to ask sure you might get shot down true. I have been shot down quite a few times but alot of times i ended up spending the night with them. Try to imagine your talking to a close friend somebody your comfortable with. And have the attitude if she turns me down oh well. Its not the end of the world, keep this in your mind also... the lyrics to this Foo fighters song always helped me .... Done, Done, and im on to the next one. Also take good care of your self workout if you have acne this helps(in case they are any of you out there that do) drink water about 90% of the time cut down on sugar. Then start using some kind of medications or special soap and carry alcohol prep pads these help alot.
All of these things really boost your self confidence and this is the key to getting over being socially inept. Also look in the mirror every morning and tell yourself "Damn im sexy"or hot whichever you want tell yourself something enough your brain accepts it as true. Trust me i was a virgin till i was 16, then my brother helped me and i blossumed. Remember its not how you look, or even how you dress it is how you carry yourself. If you carry yourself like you have 10 inches then girls will just have to find out. The curiosity will overwhelm them trust me worked for me.But dont act conceded just really confident in your self and you will see alot more girls saying "yes"

Hope this was a help to you all

BTW as far as body language if you and another guy are standing talking to a girl watch her feet. Yes, her feet if she's standing with one foot out more than another and its torwards you, more times than not she's interrested hair flipping while talking to you is an indicator also and is very effective. If sh'e extremely cheery or laughs at alot of what you say than this is a good sign to. And for god sakes if you get her number wait at least 1 day before you call and then act a little distant dont seem to eager this is a turn off to girls. Just play it cool act like theres nothing extaordinary about you talking to her or any other girl on the phone. This will give her the upperhand if you act to eager to talk to/ or please her just treat her like anyone else you might talk to on the phone that you do not wish to have sex with. And dont linger on the phone with her to long 20 minutes max and then play it as you got something better to do and then tell her" If i get back in time i'll call ya later"

Advice for the "Socially Inept"

Talk to people. If you get along that's great, if not they will probably just think you're weird, and they were probably thinking that before hand anyway.
Seriously, if it's someone you go to a club/society with, a class/workmate, someone you see everyday on your commute, or a random stranger you meet at a party or on the street.

If you have trouble working up to talking try saying hi, it's a common courtesy at the least, a gauge of how sociable the person is at that particular moment in time and it's a way to start a conversation. "Hi, how are you?"
You don't always have to just respond with "I'm fine" when people ask you that either: tell them you're tired because you studied/partied all night, say you're bummed you didn't do so well in that match/test, or that you did.
Usually they'll have some response to that.

Greet service people - they're human too. Ask the clerk ringing up your groceries how they are, tell them you're planning on having your parents/friends/partner round for supper tonight and that's why you bought all this stuff.

Sincerely compliment someone. Not everyday, like once a week, every two weeks - you see the girl working at the pizza place has a nice smile, tell her, or someone's dressed nicely, or the gardener did a nice job, whatever. Not only are you making someone else happy, you're practising being confident and using your people skills.

Don't feel you have to have twenty-zillion friends either.
Be with people you want to be with and who's company you enjoy, not people who irritate you and you hang around just because you don't want to be alone. There's nothing at all wrong with being alone.

this was all really awesomely good advice in case anyone missed it. :)

That was good advice if your wanting "Friends" but if your wanting to get laid very little of it was useful. Just the politeness stuff and you dont want to much of that, it can be a turn off also. Girls like you to be a little bit of a prick, trust me nice guys really do finish last. Ive beat out to many of them with alot less time invested in the conquest

and this coming from somebody who has slept with how many??? trust me nice guys ALWAYS finish last

That was good advice if your wanting "Friends" but if your wanting to get laid very little of it was useful. Just the politeness stuff and you dont want to much of that, it can be a turn off also. Girls like you to be a little bit of a prick, trust me nice guys really do finish last. Ive beat out to many of them with alot less time invested in the conquest

I don't think you know much about women.

and this coming from somebody who has slept with how many??? trust me nice guys ALWAYS finish last

I haven't slept with any.....I happen to be one though.

well your a one of a kind girl then i have 32 to my total credit as of yet, but dont worry im still counting. But just to give you an idea of who i am remember the guy that slept with all of your friends, then never called???I pretty much the same guy. Promise everything till i get what i want and then like a tornado i disappear as quickly as i appeared

well your a one of a kind girl then i have 32 to my total credit as of yet, but dont worry im still counting. But just to give you an idea of who i am remember the guy that slept with all of your friends, then never called???I pretty much the same guy. Promise everything till i get what i want and then like a tornado i disappear as quickly as i appeared

I'm so glad you are proud of yourself.

I don't tend to know or hang out with the poor girls that you pick up, I am sure men before you and after you have beat down their self esteem so much they probably do think you're worthy of time. It's sad really.

HA HA HA funny but trust me i only shoot for the rich girls and thats what i get little bratty daddies girls who must have their AE an AF clothes. Because thats the type of guy i am. But if i wanted poor girls i could have them , but thats to easy a poor girl wants a guy like me who owns a 325 I beamer and wears AE and AF. BTW my last conquest's father own 20 coal trucks, and in case you didnt know an 18 wheeler cost about 150,000 a piece at minimium. With a fuel bill of 1000 dollars weekly add it up sweetheart poor people cant afford that.

BTW there all 2003 model and newer

probally marry that one though at 22 i do need to settle down, but that wont stop conquest merely limit them. Do you think a half carrot diamond would be a nice engagement ring?

First, you are unlikely to ever be a person who travels with a 'posse' because you are introverted to some degree (it's not an either or measurement but a sliding scale between extroversion and introversion). Introverted people (I'm introverted too but much older than you) do not have large numbers of 'acquaintances' but they instead have a few really close friends, starting with a 'best' friend.

If you are like me you 1) need quite a bit of alone time 2) are stressed in social situations 3) are really bad at staying in touch with friends you do have.

Solution:
1) Don't feel bad when your extroverted roommates are out more than you, it's a difference in personality.
2) Force yourself to get involved in something social once in awhile even though you may get stressed leading up to it. Pick something where you think other introverts might be. I used to join things like the chess club or the physics club in high school (I know, totally geeky but those people are still my friends today). Then afterwards, some alone time to decompress.
3) If you pick the right friends and let them know that you are a bad correspondent but will be there for them if they need you, they'll be okay with that. I may not talk to someone for years but then pick back up like there was no time in between.

Those are things that helped me. I hope they help you.

Thank you i try thats why i succeed in the military to so when i tell them about Iraq they melt in my hands. For some reason they all love combat veterans;)

I'm so glad you are proud of yourself.

I don't tend to know or hang out with the poor girls that you pick up, I am sure men before you and after you have beat down their self esteem so much they probably do think you're worthy of time. It's sad really.

I think you're right, if you want a lasting relationship, i suppose you have to work at it and not defreud your way in, as that wouldn't last long and the people who'd fall for that would mean nothing to you and you end up at square 1.

HA HA HA funny but trust me i only shoot for the rich girls and thats what i get little bratty daddies girls who must have their AE an AF clothes. Because thats the type of guy i am. But if i wanted poor girls i could have them , but thats to easy a poor girl wants a guy like me who owns a 325 I beamer and wears AE and AF. BTW my last conquest's father own 20 coal trucks, and in case you didnt know an 18 wheeler cost about 150,000 a piece at minimium. With a fuel bill of 1000 dollars weekly add it up sweetheart poor people cant afford that.

BTW there all 2003 model and newer

:p you are...interesting.

:p you are...interesting.

Either incredibly immature or trolling in a mildly humourous way.

well your a one of a kind girl then i have 32 to my total credit as of yet, but dont worry im still counting. But just to give you an idea of who i am remember the guy that slept with all of your friends, then never called???I pretty much the same guy. Promise everything till i get what i want and then like a tornado i disappear as quickly as i appeared

I know that sort of bluster works in your sixth grade class, but we're adults here. We're not going to fall for this kind of childish bullshit.

HA HA HA funny but trust me i only shoot for the rich girls and thats what i get little bratty daddies girls who must have their AE an AF clothes. Because thats the type of guy i am. But if i wanted poor girls i could have them , but thats to easy a poor girl wants a guy like me who owns a 325 I beamer and wears AE and AF. BTW my last conquest's father own 20 coal trucks, and in case you didnt know an 18 wheeler cost about 150,000 a piece at minimium. With a fuel bill of 1000 dollars weekly add it up sweetheart poor people cant afford that.

BTW there all 2003 model and newer

if there's an afterlife i think you're in trouble. I'll remember not to be nice to rich kids like you in future.

I think you're right, if you want a lasting relationship, i suppose you have to work at it and not defreud your way in, as that wouldn't last long and the people who'd fall for that would mean nothing to you and you end up at square 1.
If you want to glide through life lying and cheating that's fine, but when you are old....nobody will want you anymore. It's better to find someone who likes you anyway, or that's what I think.

Im an adult to sorry to inform you. 22 as i said and you may be right perhaps if i do get married i should grow up and not cheat, might end up like my dad huh? I'll give it some thought, and as far as being nice to rich kids like me thats fine we dont need ya to. I've got this far without poor people being nice to me , i can go the rest of the way. Nothing wrong with poor people they should get a good education though so they can get good jobs

Thank you i try thats why i succeed in the military to so when i tell them about Iraq they melt in my hands. For some reason they all love combat veterans;)

more interesting. what branch do you tell them you are a part of?

I dont tell them as in lie i have served my country october 2006-oct 2007 189th mountain warriors kentucky national guard.
Rank-corporal
wasnt wounded
11 months combat

Glad somebody agrees with me i am currently in the middle of a teaching degree at UK in world history i want to teach high scool kids. History is one of my non-sex related passion. Should be teaching in about 1 1/2 years

Im an adult to sorry to inform you. 22 as i said and you may be right perhaps if i do get married i should grow up and not cheat, might end up like my dad huh? I'll give it some thought, and as far as being nice to rich kids like me thats fine we dont need ya to. I've got this far without poor people being nice to me , i can go the rest of the way. Nothing wrong with poor people they should get a good education though so they can get good jobs

yes, everyone should get a good education. I agree.

Yes ive been doing student teaching throughout my home county why?When i graduate though i got a job in the local HS

Dont worry i always abide by the rule 15 will get ya 20

Either incredibly immature or trolling in a mildly humourous way.

I'd say both.OP never mentioned getting laid. He's probably thinking we are all going to congratulate him on his *cough* accomplishments.

Glad somebody agrees with me i am currently in the middle of a teaching degree in world history i want to teach high scool kids. History is one of my non-sex related passion. Should be teaching in about 1 1/2 years

that's mildly terrifying. I am assuming you are teaching in KY right?

I'd say both.OP never mentioned getting laid. He's probably thinking we are all going to congratulate him on his *cough* accomplishments.

This coming from somebody who didnt come here to give advice but to get lol

Yes ive been doing student teaching throughout my home county why?When i graduate though i got a job in the local HS

just interesting that's all.

But it really bothers me that i have run into all of these buttholes in the forums at NS seeing i could have died in the desert for them glad i didnt because if that is the type of people im defending makes me seriouly question re-enlisting next year

Either incredibly immature or trolling in a mildly humourous way.

I'm entertained and a little scared, and mostly laughing.

But i hope there's a draft so all of these people who dont respect veterans will get their dose of the desert with less training i might add. So the'll surely, well at least a 75 % chance of them being a number on the bottom line of CNN

This coming from somebody who didnt come here to give advice but to get lol

No I came here to read the thread. Lots of people do.I do not need advice.
But I agree with Smunkee...you are a funny lil man.

But it really bothers me that i have run into all of these buttholes in the forums at NS seeing i could have died in the desert for them glad i didnt because if that is the type of people im defending makes me seriouly question re-enlisting next year

most of the people here aren't even from the US.

however, talking to you makes me reaffirm my resolve to homeschool my children.

whatever floats your boat but sorry to leave such intriguing conversation but i gotta take a shower and such i've got class at 4:00 so yea....... but i will be back later just to see how this conversation finished and note to all of the people not from the U.S. your nation is probally one of cowards seeing that you all sent little if not any troops to assist us and i hope that everyone of your nations are touched by terrorism the way America was maybe then you will grow a spine and stand up for whats right

probally marry that one though at 22 i do need to settle down, but that wont stop conquest merely limit them. Do you think a half carrot diamond would be a nice engagement ring?
http://www.driko.org/blogicons/bugsdrag27.jpg

Aww, doc? I'm not worth a whole carrot?

But i hope there's a draft so all of these people who dont respect veterans will get their dose of the desert with less training i might add. So the'll surely, well at least a 75 % chance of them being a number on the bottom line of CNN

My only problem with respecting veterans is that they tend to spout the same lines about 'I fought for you', etc when the friends I have in the military didn't necessarily join for that reason. In their cases it just seemed to be a handy bonus to go along with the adventure, etc they were seeking. That's not to say I would disrespect their choices just that I don't respect them as a general group anymore than other seemingly noble professions

Edit : Never mind I didn't read far enough back to notice the obvious trolling

But i hope there's a draft so all of these people who dont respect veterans will get their dose of the desert with less training i might add. So the'll surely, well at least a 75 % chance of them being a number on the bottom line of CNN

Ok.. I have made up my mind. You ARE a troll. COMPLETELY off-topic.

before i leave im not little at all i stand a little over 6 feet and wieghed in at MEPS at 205 so im probally bigger than you peace be opon you

whatever floats your boat but sorry to leave such intriguing conversation but i gotta take a shower and such i've got class at 4:00 so yea....... but i will be back later just to see how this conversation finished and note to all of the people not from the U.S. your nation is probally one of cowards seeing that you all sent little if not any troops to assist us and i hope that everyone of your nations are touched by terrorism the way America was maybe then you will grow a spine and stand up for whats right

Good luck with your class. You know not everyone wants to die for their country. You're supporting terrorism against other countries? isn't that what you fought specifically to stop? We have other people to stand up for us who are better trained at armed combat, i think it would be a bit of a slaughter if you sent a whole load of recruits into combat, that's why we pay taxes. So people from the US are excempt from....i'm not even going to bother criticising the rest of that, i imagine you don't really mean you want other countries to suffer from terrorism.
*shakes head*

Damn people are gonna keep trashing vets well before i go once more allow me to say this. Anybody that has fought in a foreign war and has saw people he trained with for 5 months die and have to deal with the issue of why did i make it home and they didnt. They were 10 feet away from me. Why? This is easy saying that you dont respect vets, you've never had to kill, I have and it haunts me in my dreams thats why i hate sleeping. Do you know what it is like to wake up in a cold sweat because suddenly your back in Iraq and the guy 10 feet from you has just went down with a bullets in his chest and then you must shoot and kill some kid who might be all of 16 years old. No you dont, dont say we dont have a right to say we fought for you we do. You have no idea what i live with every single day. I had a childhood friend who i saw die no more than 10 feet from me. When that happens you realize just how helpless you really are. Dont judge what me or any veteran did over there. Because you have no idea. So untill you have to do a few of the things that ive done just be quite you have no right to speak about what you have no clue about boy!

No I came here to read the thread. Lots of people do.I do not need advice.
But I agree with Smunkee...you are a funny lil man.

I also concur with Smunkee. Hilarity.

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Aww, doc? I'm not worth a whole carrot?
Aw, beaten to it. But you're really the best one to do it, so yay.
that's mildly terrifying. I am assuming you are teaching in KY right?
"Mildly"?

that's mildly terrifying. I am assuming you are teaching in KY right?

In what, a tub of the stuff?

Apart from anything, nobody asked you to risk your life for (what I consider) an illegal war. I don't want to make this a discussion about said war, but really. All due respect, I personally could never do such a thing, but it was your own choice. Respect can't be demanded, it must be earned.

*drags himself back on topic*

I recomend having something that makes you stand out a little, and then when people come to talk to you. No need to put yourself forward.

Damn people are gonna keep trashing vets well before i go once more allow me to say this. Anybody that has fought in a foreign war and has saw people he trained with for 5 months die and have to deal with the issue of why did i make it home and they didnt. They were 10 feet away from me. Why? This is easy saying that you dont respect vets, you've never had to kill, I have and it haunts me in my dreams thats why i hate sleeping. Do you know what it is like to wake up in a cold sweat because suddenly your back in Iraq and the guy 10 feet from you has just went down with a bullets in his chest and then you must shoot and kill some kid who might be all of 16 years old. No you dont, dont say we dont have a right to say we fought for you we do. You have no idea what i live with every single day. I had a childhood friend who i saw die no more than 10 feet from me. When that happens you realize just how helpless you really are. Dont judge what me or any veteran did over there. Because you have no idea. So untill you have to do a few of the things that ive done just be quite you have no right to speak about what you have no clue about boy!
The more you talk, the less you sound like a vet.

Damn people are gonna keep trashing vets well before i go once more allow me to say this. Anybody that has fought in a foreign war and has saw people he trained with for 5 months die and have to deal with the issue of why did i make it home and they didnt. They were 10 feet away from me. Why? This is easy saying that you dont respect vets, you've never had to kill, I have and it haunts me in my dreams thats why i hate sleeping. Do you know what it is like to wake up in a cold sweat because suddenly your back in Iraq and the guy 10 feet from you has just went down with a bullets in his chest and then you must shoot and kill some kid who might be all of 16 years old. No you dont, dont say we dont have a right to say we fought for you we do. You have no idea what i live with every single day. I had a childhood friend who i saw die no more than 10 feet from me. When that happens you realize just how helpless you really are. Dont judge what me or any veteran did over there. Because you have no idea. So untill you have to do a few of the things that ive done just be quite you have no right to speak about what you have no clue about boy!


You're not even a good troll. First, the military presses a strong education. You can't even write. Second, you claim to be in the process of becoming a teacher. Again, you can't even write. There are certainly 22-year-olds who have your level of vocabulary and understanding of the language, but it's an 5 to 1 bet they aren't in college.

Meanwhile, the amusing part is that anyone can get laid regularly. Why would anyone be impressed? Almost anyone can serve their country. Why would anyone be impressed? Thankful, sure. They need us. Impressed? Nah. What's impressive? The vast majority of people who are in the military are just doing jobs like everyone else.

Please, though, tell us again all about the trucks and what year they are. That'll definitely convince us of exactly how impressed with you we should be.

In what, a tub of the stuff?

You win the thread.:D

I think some good advice would be to join groups that do some of the same things you like.

My advice... take it for what it's worth... do the opposite. If you are like most of the generally dateless any group that does the things you like to do is probably lacking in members of the opposite sex.

Go for something you DON'T like to do. Learn to like it.

If you are male, look into some group focussing on the arts. You won't be the best looking guy in the group, but don't worry, because the one who is, is gay. (I'm assuming here that you're looking for a date with the opposite sex, if not, hey, whatever floats your boat, but it does tend to complicate my advice.) What's the worst that could happen? You learn oil painting, or you learn to cook, or you go see some theater and enrich your life.

If you are female, you can have your pick of the crop by settling into one of the clubs that are almost entirely male. Decide which sort of male you want, and on a fishing trip, or playing chess, you will have almost no competition. They're all yours. What's the worst that could happen? You get your finger bitten off by a fish. Be careful with them. The chess club might be safer. Sure the guys are pasty faced geeks, but take one home as a boyfriend, and he might turn out to be the next internet billionaire. And no messy fish.

DO NOT aim for one of those interests that are typically co-ed. Ski trips won't do it, if you don't look really, really good in ski clothes. When you are the only male/female in the group, you can always fall back on the fake incompetence to get attention. Ask stupid questions: "Do you think this is a good color?" "What kind of fish is that?" will have eager admirers trying to help you. Stack the deck in your favor as far as you can!

You win the thread.:D

You have to admit, given the sex-related bluster of who she was replying to, that it was 100% appropriate. :D

Damn people are gonna keep trashing vets well before i go once more allow me to say this. Anybody that has fought in a foreign war and has saw people he trained with for 5 months die and have to deal with the issue of why did i make it home and they didnt. They were 10 feet away from me. Why? This is easy saying that you dont respect vets, you've never had to kill, I have and it haunts me in my dreams thats why i hate sleeping. Do you know what it is like to wake up in a cold sweat because suddenly your back in Iraq and the guy 10 feet from you has just went down with a bullets in his chest and then you must shoot and kill some kid who might be all of 16 years old. No you dont, dont say we dont have a right to say we fought for you we do. You have no idea what i live with every single day. I had a childhood friend who i saw die no more than 10 feet from me. When that happens you realize just how helpless you really are. Dont judge what me or any veteran did over there. Because you have no idea. So untill you have to do a few of the things that ive done just be quite you have no right to speak about what you have no clue about boy!

You're saying because i've never been there myself i'm not allowed to express my opinion?
I've no doubt that warfare is horrible, that's why so many people are against it. I have a friend who's been in the Marines, it's no picnic either.
I sympathise with your trauma, i imagine getting laid with lots of women would put your mind off it, but as far as i know it just leaves you hollow.

Yes it is a courageous thing to fight for your country. Was it not your decision to join the military to fight, you didn't think your opponents had the same idea?
Why shouldn't i speak about what i have no experience of? That's one of the key parts of learning, to learn things you might never know, to prevent yourself or others getting injured.
I'm not against soldiers as far as i know they have a pretty rough life and little pay, little respect and the chance of dieing which leads me to my next question.
Why fight for your country at all?

Damn people are gonna keep trashing vets well before i go once more allow me to say this. Anybody that has fought in a foreign war and has saw people he trained with for 5 months die and have to deal with the issue of why did i make it home and they didnt. They were 10 feet away from me. Why? This is easy saying that you dont respect vets, you've never had to kill, I have and it haunts me in my dreams thats why i hate sleeping. Do you know what it is like to wake up in a cold sweat because suddenly your back in Iraq and the guy 10 feet from you has just went down with a bullets in his chest and then you must shoot and kill some kid who might be all of 16 years old. No you dont, dont say we dont have a right to say we fought for you we do. You have no idea what i live with every single day. I had a childhood friend who i saw die no more than 10 feet from me. When that happens you realize just how helpless you really are. Dont judge what me or any veteran did over there. Because you have no idea. So untill you have to do a few of the things that ive done just be quite you have no right to speak about what you have no clue about boy!


Which was it? Your childhood friend or the guy you trained with for 5 months? Seriously, the girls in your high school might find all this quite impressive, but why would we? I don't buy for a moment you're a combat veteran or studying to be a teacher or 22 or rich. You give me even odds and I'm betting you're under 16, you got picked on much of your life and think that what you're saying is somehow going to impress people.

I served. I put myself in harm's way. And I, frankly, did it because I believed that someone has to do it and I was healthy and capable. If I don't go, someone else goes in my place, and I could not allow that to happen. HOWEVER, that was my choice. I don't need and never expected people to kiss my feet.

Real men and women didn't do it for the glory and respect, because they believed it was the right thing to do or simply had to be done, even if they may not have agreed with reasons why our children, husbands, wives, brothers and sisters are put in such situations. It's rare that someone goes and comes back feeling like other people should lick their wounds for them.

Most people who go learn that our service is just that. It's valuable, but I wouldn't put it above the guy who keeps the trash from piling up in the streets. It's not above the people who keep our roadways safe and open, our water flowing, our towns safe, our children educated. Those of us who serve should include every person in the country that keeps us healthy, prosperous and happy. There's 100's of millions. It's not all that special.

Which was it? Your childhood friend or the guy you trained with for 5 months? Seriously, the girls in your high school might find all this quite impressive, but why would we? I don't buy for a moment you're a combat veteran or studying to be a teacher or 22 or rich. You give me even odds and I'm betting you're under 16, you got picked on much of your life and think that what you're saying is somehow going to impress people.

Bingo. One almost universal thing about combat veterans: it is really hard to get them to talk about their experiences. Never trust the ones who bring it up too quickly.

It's not above the people who keep our roadways safe and open, our water flowing, our towns safe, our children educated.

Oh, I don't know if I would put these things as all equal, even if they are all important. After all, civilization as we know it would collapse in a few years with no schools, but much, much faster with no plumbing. (I'd give LA one week with no plumbing, then poof).

That probably explains why the average plumber earns more than the average teacher.

The lack of eye contact, body language, and tone of voice makes it much easier for some people to handle the interaction.

Autistic people, for example, love the internet for its social aspects, because they're largely incapable to interacting with others in person.

Also, you don't have to respond really quickly so it's easier, since you have more time to plan out a response. Plus I don't have to pronounce things... pronouncing things is almost always a lot harder for me than spelling things...

Actually, if someone sponsors a bill that drafts all spoiled, rich douchebags who think we should worship them because they have a penis and can occasionally find a place to put it, putting them in a first-response unit, thus keeping my cohorts safe, most of whom have and will do amazing things with their life, then put my name on it. I'll John Hancock it.

In fact, tell me that bill has a chance, I'll quit my job now and go on a hunger strike till it gets passed. It might be the single best bill ever passed in this country, though we might have a bit of trouble finding politicians after it passes.

You give me even odds and I'm betting you're under 16, you got picked on much of your life and think that what you're saying is somehow going to impress people.

This is highly likely.

Also, you don't have to respond really quickly so it's easier, since you have more time to plan out a response. Plus I don't have to pronounce things... pronouncing things is almost always a lot harder for me than spelling things...

Plus, you can pick up girls while you're in your underwear and no one knows it's creepy.

You have to admit, given the sex-related bluster of who she was replying to, that it was 100% appropriate. :D

Which totally adds to the hilarity.

Plus, you can pick up girls while you're in your underwear and no one knows it's creepy.

:eek:

Plus, you can pick up girls while you're in your underwear and no one knows it's creepy.

You can also have thoughtful and intelligent debate while completely naked.

You can also have thoughtful and intelligent debate while completely naked.

That's the only way I can have a thoughtful and intelligent debate. Here that, Llewdor. I totally owned you on nutrition and I was naked at the time. Probably gassy as well. How you like them apples?

I had an ex that used to say the only time I could focus on anything other than sex was for about 30 minutes after I'd just had sex. Well, she's still my ex and she may very well still say it, but I'm gonna use "used to" anyway.

The good news is that if I masturbate enough I can have a pretty productive day.

I'm pretty sure she was joking. I hope she was joking.

That's the only way I can have a thoughtful and intelligent debate. Here that, Llewdor. I totally owned you on nutrition and I was naked at the time. Probably gassy as well. How you like them apples?

I had an ex that used to say the only time I could focus on anything other than sex was for about 30 minutes after I'd just had sex. Well, she's still my ex and she may very well still say it, but I'm gonna use "used to" anyway.

The good news is that if I masturbate enough I can have a pretty productive day.

I'm pretty sure she was joking. I hope she was joking.

So the end result is that all you ever thought about, 24/7, was sex? :D

The good news is that if I masturbate enough I can have a pretty productive day.

Isn't that what everyone does at break time?

So the end result is that all you ever thought about, 24/7, was sex? :D

No. For about a half hour after each time I had non-sex thoughts. Mostly about Chorizo y juevos con arroz. You figure 2 hours for the act and a half-hour recovery (concentration time) that means I could pull it off (so to speak) about 9 times a day.

No. For about a half hour after each time I had non-sex thoughts. Mostly about Chorizo y juevos con arroz. You figure 2 hours for the act and a half-hour recovery (concentration time) that means I could pull it off (so to speak) about 9 times a day.

Actually, by my math, you could probably pull it off (using your 30 minute recovery time and the assumption that this is all you do) 36 times a day.

Incidentally, way to miss (or avoid) the joke.

Isn't that what everyone does at break time?

I alternate between arguing with Llewdor and that. Sometimes I do them both at the same time, just to mix it up.

I alternate between arguing with Llewdor and that. Sometimes I do them both at the same time, just to mix it up.

That takes talent. I'm duly impressed.

That takes talent. I'm duly impressed.

Hehe. I can't wait till the next time I'm on the other side in a thread with Llewdor. Because he'll undoubtedly read this and that's got put together some pretty nasty mental pictures.

Hehe. I can't wait till the next time I'm on the other side in a thread with Llewdor. Because he'll undoubtedly read this and that's got put together some pretty nasty mental pictures.

Don't kid yourself.




...it's putting together nasty mental pictures for all of us.

Don't kid yourself.




...it's putting together nasty mental pictures for all of us.

I actually know what he looks like (fully clothed). I've been in the bathroom projectile vomiting for the past few minutes.

Hehe. I can't wait till the next time I'm on the other side in a thread with Llewdor. Because he'll undoubtedly read this and that's got put together some pretty nasty mental pictures.

Well, you've already ingrained them here....:p

Well, you've already ingrained them here....:p

If it helps, I often keep a bucket of cold water, because a freezing cold, wet, kind of dead hand is super hot. Also, when I'm naked it looks like I'm wearing fur underwear. Put that in your pipe and smoke it.

If it helps, I often keep a bucket of cold water, because a freezing cold, wet, kind of dead hand is super hot. Also, when I'm naked it looks like I'm wearing fur underwear. Put that in your pipe and smoke it.

...and that confirms it, sharing a state with you is too close.

*shudders*

If it helps, I often keep a bucket of cold water, because a freezing cold, wet, kind of dead hand is super hot. Also, when I'm naked it looks like I'm wearing fur underwear. Put that in your pipe and smoke it.

You have truly scarred me for life. I will now retreat to my books on Debussy as I really do need to do some work tonight.

if your school has a substantial population of international students, they probably have IEP (intensive english program) - and if they have that, they probably have a place for native english speakers to sign up as conversation partners. automatic friend - just sign on the line and they'll give you someone who wants to talk to you and is probably feeling kind of isolated and wants to meet people.

if you live in a dorm, leave your door open.

loan people pencils.

take a speech class.

fraternities exist for people with no social skills who need fake bonds, but I wouldn't advice joining one unless you're completely desperate. take any class that would involve lots of talking - spanish would do well...

...and that confirms it, sharing a state with you is too close.

*shudders*

Meh, you only share a state half the time. For the record, I'm fairly un-hairy and the bucket of water thing kind of scarred me as well.

I come into General for the first time in like... months and I already have terrible mental images, thanks guys! I'm 17 and only a few months into being a student (as in, at school voluntarily rather than being forced) and I have to say that the biggest and best way to make friends is to be yourself. Being honest about my personality and interests has made me a whole other group of friends that I had no idea were into the same stuff as me until we started talking.

Beyond that, confidence is a big thing, I also had none until around the start of the year until I started actually forcing myself to be more forward. A good way to build confidence is to play some sports, a friend of mine invited me to a friendly 5v5 of indoor football (the good kind) with some people I wasn't necessarily comfortable with, but by the end of the game I had bonded a little with all of them and felt far better about talking to them; whoever made the comment about sweat was probably right.

I'm not all the way there yet, I sometimes miss parties if my friends aren't going and still have to suppress my natural instinct to decline any invitation anywhere, but I think that being able to hold a loud conversation with a mixed group of boys and girls about the best way to cook and eat a placenta, purely to creep out a particularly nervous (and hated) teacher is an improvement on how I used to be.

this was all really awesomely good advice in case anyone missed it. :)
That recommendation made my day.
:)


That was good advice if your wanting "Friends" but if your wanting to get laid very little of it was useful. Just the politeness stuff and you dont want to much of that, it can be a turn off also. Girls like you to be a little bit of a prick, trust me nice guys really do finish last. Ive beat out to many of them with alot less time invested in the conquest

And why should any sort of relationship (yes, even a one night stand) start any differently than a friendship?
Actually in general pricks tend to get either a) slapped, b) shunned, or c) kept only for their occasional amusement value but not slept with.
So unless your type happen to be brain-washed and insecure then prick-dom is not rewarding.
Oh, and I forgot option d: anointed with whatever liquid happens to be most handy and wasteable.
I've never even considered dating or sleeping with someone I hadn't already considered decent friend material, not that we necessarily were friends to start with, but that I wouldn't mind them in that capacity.

and this coming from somebody who has slept with how many??? trust me nice guys ALWAYS finish last
Quality not Quantity, also, you may not have heard - but most girls prefer guys who take a little longer.
;)

I don't think you know much about women.

Or people.

*snip*

On the topic: I used to have a really hard time meeting women. Well, actually I still have similar issues, but as UTurn suggested I talk to people a lot, which tends to work (I just don't see women that much).

My experience is the best way is to simply enjoy life. It doesn't mean you have to laugh or smile. Some people never laugh and never smile and prefer it that way. But get into whatever you're into. Girls, guys, and everything around or in between, tend to like to see people who have got something going on. They have a focus and a direction. It's attractive. Some things attract less other people than other things, but you'll end up with better quality women by being a REAL person.

You say you stay at home a lot. Great. So do I. You can meet women shopping for stuff for your home or hobbies, looking for books at the library, studying at a coffee shop, looking for movies and your local movie mart. There is only one universal truth of meeting people, you have to interact with the world.

You know why being a prick seems to work so often. They've invented a persona that allows them to interact with the world. And interaction works. Dicks get girls. Nice guys get girls. The guy in the corner doesn't generally get girls. I've had a thousand steaks in my lifetime and only a handful just got set in front of me. Usually, I had to go get them, prepare them, earn them.

Look around you. The world has more than its share of morons, losers, pricks and dullards. And they're procreating. They somehow managed to find people interested in them, often who fell in love with them. My experience with you is that you're none of those things. I think you should be equally successful. First, you have to actually start shopping (it's a metaphor, I'm not insulting women or whoever else you might be into).

Drink, seriously. Enough drink can make even the most introverted person extroverted.

On the topic: I used to have a really hard time meeting women. Well, actually I still have similar issues, but as UTurn suggested I talk to people a lot, which tends to work (I just don't see women that much).

My experience is the best way is to simply enjoy life. It doesn't mean you have to laugh or smile. Some people never laugh and never smile and prefer it that way. But get into whatever you're into. Girls, guys, and everything around or in between, tend to like to see people who have got something going on. They have a focus and a direction. It's attractive. Some things attract less other people than other things, but you'll end up with better quality women by being a REAL person.

You say you stay at home a lot. Great. So do I. You can meet women shopping for stuff for your home or hobbies, looking for books at the library, studying at a coffee shop, looking for movies and your local movie mart. There is only one universal truth of meeting people, you have to interact with the world.

You know why being a prick seems to work so often. They've invented a persona that allows them to interact with the world. And interaction works. Dicks get girls. Nice guys get girls. The guy in the corner doesn't generally get girls. I've had a thousand steaks in my lifetime and only a handful just got set in front of me. Usually, I had to go get them, prepare them, earn them.

Look around you. The world has more than its share of morons, losers, pricks and dullards. And they're procreating. They somehow managed to find people interested in them, often who fell in love with them. My experience with you is that you're none of those things. I think you should be equally successful. First, you have to actually start shopping (it's a metaphor, I'm not insulting women or whoever else you might be into).

I make it a point to enjoy life. And I never planned to be anything other than myself.

I never quite understood how someone can "meet" someone else at a place as relatively anonymous as, say, a grocery store.

A complete stranger walks up to you, says hello? Great! Hello, kind sir!

"I'm Bill!"

"Nice to meet you...Bill. I'm (insert name here)."

...I mean. It just seems to come out of no where. Maybe I'm just inexperienced.

What I really need to do then, as some have already suggested, is hang out at places where one may not seem so much of a stranger: the library, the student union, the coffee shop. Everyone there already has something in common: they're all students.

As for pricks...well it is rather comforting to know that even the scum of the Earth can find "love" (if you can call it that). Means there's hope for the quiet and relatively sane among us. :D

I'll just "put myself out" a bit more. Try to be a bit more "vocal".

I'm entertained and a little scared, and mostly laughing.
I'm mostly entertained. Trolls of that variety amuse me even more than the men-pretending-to-be-women, who just get annoying after a while.

The more you talk, the less you sound like a vet.
Or a 22-year-old, or a teacher, or an individual who regularly engages in acts of copulation for that matter.


Most people who go learn that our service is just that. It's valuable, but I wouldn't put it above the guy who keeps the trash from piling up in the streets. It's not above the people who keep our roadways safe and open, our water flowing, our towns safe, our children educated. Those of us who serve should include every person in the country that keeps us healthy, prosperous and happy. There's 100's of millions. It's not all that special.
Oh come on, we all know that you haven't really served your country until you've killed people in its name. ;)


Oh, I don't know if I would put these things as all equal, even if they are all important. After all, civilization as we know it would collapse in a few years with no schools, but much, much faster with no plumbing. (I'd give LA one week with no plumbing, then poof).

That probably explains why the average plumber earns more than the average teacher.
To say nothing of no electricity. It's almost scary how much we've come to depend on technological advances.

You can also have thoughtful and intelligent debate while completely naked.
That's practically the only time I can have thoughtful and intelligent debate. Nudity seems to put a lot more into focus.

*reads, rereads to avoid saying ... too much*

You have truly scarred me for life. I will now retreat to my books on Debussy as I really do need to do some work tonight.
So tell me, music scholar: is the Tristan chord a half-diminished seventh, a French sixth with an appoggiatura, or.... the other interpretation I can't remember at the moment?* <.< >.>

* Laymen: the musicological equivalent of "When does abortion become murder?"

I like my women how I like my scotch. Twelve years old and mixed with coke!
http://www.sing365.com/music/Lyric.nsf/A-Lap-Dance-Is-So-Much-Better-When-the-Stripper-is-Crying-lyrics-Bloodhound-Gang/13794BB04FE6F31C482568C7000A5439

...
I have to admit it was even more of a turn-on
when I found out she was doin' me to buy baby formula.


Yes, a lap dance is so much better when the stripper is cryin'
Yes, a lap dance is so much better when the stripper is cryin'
Well I find it's quite a thrill
When she grinds me against her will
Yes, a lap dance is so much better when the stripper is cryin'


Day or so had passed when I popped the clutch,
gave the tranny a spin and slid on into
The Stinky Pinky Gulp N' Guzzle Big Rig Snooze-A-Stop.
There I was browsin' through the latest issue of "Throb",
when I saw Bambi starin' at me from the back of a milk carton.
Well, my heart just dropped.
So, I decided to do what any good Christian would.
You can not imagine how difficult it is to hold a half gallon of moo juice
and polish the one-eyed gopher when your doin' seventy-five
in an eighteen-wheeler.
I never thought missing children could be so sexy.
Did I say that out loud?
*not the whole song*
*couldn't help it*

Aww, doc? I'm not worth a whole carrot?
http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,322805,00.html
?

old news

Actually, that's still up for debate.
If you're interested. ;)

You can also have thoughtful and intelligent debate while completely naked.

old news

Plus, you can pick up girls while you're in your underwear and no one knows it's creepy.

Don't worry, Jocabia, we all know you're creepy even when you're fully clothed. ;)

Actually, that's still up for debate.
If you're interested. ;)

Can't. Got my x-mass present bathrobe on, and as much as i like to be posting naked, i like wearing it just slightly more. :)

Don't worry, Jocabia, we all know you're creepy even when you're fully clothed. ;)

Oh, good.

I'm 60 years old and still socially awkward. I didn't have a real date (i.e. one that my mother didn't set up with a friend's son) until I was in my sophomore year of college. And I really tried, I joined clubs, I tutored people, I went to church, I went to campus sponsored events and I was miserable because I was trying too hard and wasn't being myself. I don't have any real advice except don't stress too much about it.

So tell me, music scholar: is the Tristan chord a half-diminished seventh, a French sixth with an appoggiatura, or.... the other interpretation I can't remember at the moment?* <.< >.>

* Laymen: the musicological equivalent of "When does abortion become murder?"

It's a French augmented 6th with appoggiatura that acts as a chord II moving to chord V7 (E7), except that chord I (A minor) is never stated. Half-diminished chords have a different function tonally, though Debussy would do something entirely different with it and.....:D

The result: A batshit insane young man without any real contacts with others outside his dorm and will likely NEVER get a girlfriend.


Do what everyone else in that situation does: go into politics. Works best if you are very ugly and/or breathtakingly ignorant about current affairs. If not, just become a pretentious pseudo-intellectual. Someone, somewhere, will be impressed and decide to hook up with you.

Do what everyone else in that situation does: go into politics. Works best if you are very ugly and/or breathtakingly ignorant about current affairs. If not, just become a pretentious pseudo-intellectual. Someone, somewhere, will be impressed and decide to hook up with you.

B-but I am ruggedly handsome AND am up to date on current events! And I hate politics!

I'd rather be united in someone for our love of cheesy sci-fi and bad kung-fu than our hatred of George Bush. Anyone can hate George Bush...it takes a special someone to be able to sit through EVA with their sanity intact.

I'm 60 years old and still socially awkward. I didn't have a real date (i.e. one that my mother didn't set up with a friend's son) until I was in my sophomore year of college. And I really tried, I joined clubs, I tutored people, I went to church, I went to campus sponsored events and I was miserable because I was trying too hard and wasn't being myself. I don't have any real advice except don't stress too much about it.

Not stressing out has been a task for me for quite some time. I need to remind myself that I am who I am, and who I am is not perfect...or a big "social scene" kind of guy.

B-but I am ruggedly handsome AND am up to date on current events! And I hate politics!

I'd rather be united in someone for our love of cheesy sci-fi and bad kung-fu than our hatred of George Bush. Anyone can hate George Bush...it takes a special someone to be able to sit through EVA with their sanity intact.


Okay, so politics is out. Looks like it's pseudo intellectualism for you. Invest in a beret and some crappy books of philosophy. Try to apply your poorly-understood, half-assed grasp of philosophy to your kung fu.
For ideas on how to do this, try The Book of Five Rings:
http://www.amazon.com/Book-Five-Rings-Classic-Strategy/dp/0517415283
(Yeah, okay, it's Japanese and kung fu is Chinese - cry me a river)
You'd be amazed how many people out there think this ancient combat manual is a useful guide to the modern business world.

Okay, so politics is out. Looks like it's pseudo intellectualism for you. Invest in a beret and some crappy books of philosophy. Try to apply your poorly-understood, half-assed grasp of philosophy to your kung fu.
For ideas on how to do this, try The Book of Five Rings:
http://www.amazon.com/Book-Five-Rings-Classic-Strategy/dp/0517415283
(Yeah, okay, it's Japanese and kung fu is Chinese - cry me a river)
You'd be amazed how many people out there think this ancient combat manual is a useful guide to the modern business world.

But I don't like pseudo-intellectuals either! I hate those kind of guys. Sitting around all day quoting Nietzsche and Sun-Tzu, shouting passages from The Fountainhead likes its a Bible, and complaining about society and the people in it! OH! The pretentiousness! The half-assery! And all the while they contribute NOTHING to society.

Take a cold shower, you dirty beatniks, and watch some mindless action flick. You'll feel much better about yourself afterward!

I don't have any real advice except don't stress too much about it.
I second this. Simply do whatever you feel like doing; it's a good way to meet people who share your interests, which provides a good topic of conversation, and even if you don't make friends per se you'll still be technically interacting with people so it counts as a social life. ;)

It's a French augmented 6th with appoggiatura that acts as a chord II moving to chord V7 (E7), except that chord I (A minor) is never stated. Half-diminished chords have a different function tonally, though Debussy would do something entirely different with it and.....:D

:P Been ages since I studied music theory (actually, ages since I studied anything, but music's one of the few areas in which I keep in practice) but I seem to recall that a few eminent scholars disagreed on that point, arguing that the E7 is deceptive or something. *shrug* The aug6 is the simplest explanation, so I prefer it.

But I don't like pseudo-intellectuals either! I hate those kind of guys. Sitting around all day quoting Nietzsche and Sun-Tzu, shouting passages from The Fountainhead likes its a Bible, and complaining about society and the people in it! OH! The pretentiousness! The half-assery! And all the while they contribute NOTHING to society.

Take a cold shower, you dirty beatniks, and watch some mindless action flick. You'll feel much better about yourself afterward!

Damn, you are hard to please. Maybe you can have a go at being an anti-pseud. Locate these people on campus, and begin a campaign of terror, picking them off one by one until the pitifully few survivors have to flee for their lives!

Or just make sarcastic remarks to them, if that's easier.

You just gotta wake up one day and say: Fuck it.

I mean, seriously. You're young, too young to know what you really want in life. Now, at that age, you have a general idea but are still pumped full of youthful arrogance. This is the perfect time in your life to make mistakes, learn, and adapt.

You need to be more present-tense minded. It always good to keep the future in mind but if you obsese too much about the future and neglect the present, then the future may never happen. There's a way to be impulsive yet still in control. When you're sisty, don't you want to look back at you life, laugh to yourself and say: "Yeah, I did that all"?

Live life to live it. This time in your life is too short to be shored up in a dorm room, playing Warcraft and fantasizing about that girl you see in class. Believe me, you're going to fail alot...alot. But you only truly fail when you fail to learn from your mistakes. After being shot down, played, and disappointed so many times, it just doesn't hurt anymore and you learn to just brush it off and keep on going. Soon enough, you'll get what you want.

I've done some messed up things already, and I'm only 20. Going from high school to the Navy and being stationed halfway around the world, you have to grow up quick but at the same time, enjoy your youth. From having sex with a French-Algerian exotic dancer, to going on a drunken odyssey with some Germans, to dealing with some girls' psychotic ex-boyfriend. You just have to say "Fuck it!" I don't need anyone to live. I can still breath and eat without a girlfriend. Now, is it nice to have one, hell yeah, but I don;t need one. What you need is to experience life.

The reason people like me is because I'm funny, nice, and generally good natured. So, I've never really had a problem meeting people and I have some great friends. The only way you're gonna experience anything is if you throw your inhibitions to the wind, say fuck it, and go from there.

:P Been ages since I studied music theory (actually, ages since I studied anything, but music's one of the few areas in which I keep in practice) but I seem to recall that a few eminent scholars disagreed on that point, arguing that the E7 is deceptive or something. *shrug* The aug6 is the simplest explanation, so I prefer it.

Perhaps, there's all sorts of theories about Wagner and Tristan. It makes sense to me in the context of the Prelude, but the chord is used in loads of other ways later on in the opera. Looked at that last year, I really liked all the philosophy behind it, and the music of course. Also, I enjoyed looking at Wozzeck by Berg; some very cool devices and symmetries going on in that.

This thread is far too epic. I must bump. :)

The result: A batshit insane young man without any real contacts with others outside his dorm and will likely NEVER get a girlfriend.

*sigh*

I've never even been on a date. There, I friggin' admit it.

Nor have I. Welcome to the club

Try to stay in the club. I strongly recommend you do not "seek-out" women. Love will eventually find you. If you go hunting for it you will only find sorrow and meaninglessness..