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http://www.cnn.com/2008/CRIME/01/14/missing.marine/index.html

Assuming they catch this scuzbucket alive, he would probably be court martialed. I don't think florida having a death penalty or not matters.

I find myself hoping he's found alive, tried, convicted and spends the rest of his life in Federal "pound him in the ass" Prison. Some people don't deserve a quick death. SOme people deserve the slow rot of a lifetime in a cage and to expire forgotten and broken.

Noice.

Edit: Aw, no, you changed it. Since when can we change thread titles? *pouts* :(

Florida is second only to Texas in the number of executions, so yes, it has the death penalty, as does the military, which acts independently of state laws. Both use lethal injection.

I personally hope this subhuman gets pounded in the ass by well-hung black men every night in the shower. He didn't even have the decency to retrieve the baby (who could have lived) when he wanted to silence the mother.

Now there's a slight difference between remarking that Federal "Pound him in the ass" Prison is a place were scuzbuckets like him get pounded in the ass, and actually wishing this scuzbucket to get pounded in the ass. Try to keep in mind that wishing that even on the very deserving is not a very nice thing to do.

:)

Florida is second only to Texas in the number of executions, so yes, it has the death penalty, as does the military, which acts independently of state laws. Both use lethal injection.

I personally hope this subhuman gets pounded in the ass by well-hung black men every night in the shower. He didn't even have the decency to retrieve the baby (who could have lived) when he wanted to silence the mother.

Noice.

Edit: Aw, no, you changed it. Since when can we change thread titles? *pouts* :(

My Goofballian Powers in action. :cool:

Man. How can people do things like this? Do they simply lack a conscience?

Some people it seems just lack respect for the lives of others. They see only themselves, their "needs". What's worse are the psychopaths, who do it for the "thrill".

Florida is second only to Texas in the number of executions, so yes, it has the death penalty, as does the military, which acts independently of state laws. Both use lethal injection.Sidetracking slightly here, but how goes the challenge to lethal injection in the Supreme Court? Last thing I heard they hadn't decided yet.

Rape of women in the US military is revoltingly common. One would think this would lead the military to treat sexual assault more seriously. After all, women in the US military are more likely to be personally attacked and raped by one of their own "comrades" than they are to be attacked and raped by an enemy. Even in peace time, female soldiers face combat situations on their own bases, with their fellow soldiers, with their own leaders and officers. That's deeply fucked up.

This is an example of how military command is failing soldiers. It is unacceptable. Soldiers agree to put their bodies in harm's way. They agree to risk death, to give up their lives at home and be sent far from their loved ones, and to put themselves in some of the lousiest conditions imaginable. They agree to put their lives in the hands of government and military leaders. At the very least, they deserve to feel that their government and their leaders will support and protect them.

http://www.salon.com/news/feature/2007/03/07/women_in_military/index1.html

http://www.cnn.com/2008/CRIME/01/14/missing.marine/index.html

Assuming they catch this scuzbucket alive, he would probably be court martialed. I don't think florida having a death penalty or not matters.

I find myself hoping he's found alive, tried, convicted and spends the rest of his life in Federal "pound him in the ass" Prison. Some people don't deserve a quick death. SOme people deserve the slow rot of a lifetime in a cage and to expire forgotten and broken.

Doesn't matter if Florida does or not, the military does.

Doesn't matter if Florida does or not, the military does.
I may be mistaken, but I believe that this particular case will be handled by civilian courts if/when the accused is found. The news I've read says that the warrant for his arrest was issued by state authorities, which makes it sound like they are the ones who get him if/when he's found. But, again, I could very well be wrong about that, since I don't know the legal ins and outs of this type of situation.

I may be mistaken, but I believe that this particular case will be handled by civilian courts if/when the accused is found. The news I've read says that the warrant for his arrest was issued by state authorities, which makes it sound like they are the ones who get him if/when he's found. But, again, I could very well be wrong about that, since I don't know the legal ins and outs of this type of situation.

A soldier doesn't just revert to being a civillian when they leave the base. They are still subject to the UCMJ. Murder being a crime under the UCMJ he's going to be court martialed, and therefore subject to the death penalty regardless of state laws. He'll also serve his time in Ft Leavenworth. Just like if you are caught drunk driving off post, you'll be arrested by civillian authorities but your punishment will be given to you via Article 15.

Oh the old issue of what to do with sadists and nasty people.
I don't think there's a perfect way of dealing with them i suppose it's that which makes them cruel.
From what i hear from a university lecturer in criminology, the death penalty is more expensive than prisons due to the number of hearings for the convict, also there's no way of giving compensation should the convict turn out to be innocent. That's not to say the majority of convicted felons are innocent.

There's also some evidence that suggests prison sentances are more effective at reducing criminal activity than using death penalty sentances. There are other factors i've yet to look into, but i imagine being on a jury sentancing an innocent man to death would haunt me for life, this shows that psychological problems could emerge as extra pressure is put on the Judge and Jury (and any others present) to get the right result, whereas with prison you can still make up for wrong judgement.
I hope my comments can bring a better understanding of the justice system.

A soldier doesn't just revert to being a civillian when they leave the base. They are still subject to the UCMJ. Murder being a crime under the UCMJ he's going to be court martialed, and therefore subject to the death penalty regardless of state laws. He'll also serve his time in Ft Leavenworth. Just like if you are caught drunk driving off post, you'll be arrested by civillian authorities but your punishment will be given to you via Article 15.

I was wondering if that wasn't the case.

You both seem to be correct - courts-martial and local civilian courts both have jursdiction to try the case.

Military Offenses: Courts-martial have exclusive power to hear and decide “purely military offenses.” Rule for Courts-Martial (R.C.M.) 201(d)(1)

Nonmilitary Offenses: Crimes that violate both the UCMJ and local criminal law may be tried by a court-martial, a civilian court, or both. R.C.M. 201(d)(2)
http://milcom.jag.af.mil/ch02/jurisd.doc

(That's the AF JAG, but I'm sure it applies to Uncle Sam's Misguided Children as well. ;))