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I got this clip from sky news. It is just beyond stupid. I guess if this guy died it would be better for the gene pool but what about the poor driver?

http://news.sky.com/skynews/article/0,,30100-1299742,00.html

Personally I would've increased the speed of the train.....

What? Don't look at me like that, I'm just saying what everyone is thinking! If he wants to be an idiot, then let him pay for the consequences.

That was a close call. And he traumatised the driver...

Dumbass. Big time.

What a moron.

Poor driver :( I wonder how he would feel if the man gets a jailsentence.

isn't the security on rail good :p

isn't the security on rail good :p

About as good and effective as Security at the Airport.

That's nothing - check out these kids!!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3Vq2rhsQPHs

I think that one's a set up dude. Not a real clip like the train moron.

I think that one's a set up dude. Not a real clip like the train moron.

Really? Was it the advertising tag line that gave it away?

They're at it again!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MDCeSzUEkSc&feature=related

I think LGs genes remain in Europe :)

...Theres being a brave & cool and impressing people, and then theres being a stupid, reckless fool who needs to get hit by a train just so he can realize what a stupid, reckless fool he's been.

What in the name of hell would possess you to do something like that?

Personally I would've increased the speed of the train.....

What? Don't look at me like that, I'm just saying what everyone is thinking! If he wants to be an idiot, then let him pay for the consequences.


So you condone murder then? Nice.

So you condone murder then? Nice.

Murder of the suicidally stupid. Yes.

That reminds me of a story that was going around these parts (south-eastern England) a few years ago. I don't know whether it was actually true or just an urban myth, but allegedly _

A group of young men had been out drinking heavily, one winter evening.
They were standing on a station's platform, waiting for the last train of the night.
Their bladders were full to bursting, it was a freezing night, and if there was a WC nearby then that had already been closed & locked.
So they decided to have a pissing contest, and see who could project the stuff furthest out across the tracks.
And one of them managed to hit the live rail...
And the current arced back "upstream"...

*sizzle* *thud*


(Personally I'd have expected the section of rail that ran through a station to have its current switched off when there wasn't a train there... but, then, maybe there was a train approaching when they did this...)

What in the name of hell would possess you to do something like that?
Apparently booze.

(Personally I'd have expected the section of rail that ran through a station to have its current switched off when there wasn't a train there... but, then, maybe there was a train approaching when they did this...)

Unless your bladder puts out a hell of a pressurized stream, or you're idiotically close to the electrical source that won't happen. Mythbusters did a thing on it, but they screwed it up. They neglected to put proper pressure behind the stream.

Apparently booze.

Booze is a disinhibiter sure - but you could disinhibit me all you like and I would still know that was not a good idea. My guess is the guy was as dumb as f**k to begin with.

I feel sorry for the poor driver. The guy should be made to pay for some counseling for him. And then glued to the damn tracks!

What in the name of hell would possess you to do something like that?

Perhaps the bloke wanted to commit suicide?

And yay the gods did create a stupid idiot, where other gods created smarter people, and so the balance was restored between stupidity and intelligence.
In this case the idiot is the man who played with a train, thus i logged onto NSG to learn never to do the same.
*bows in a holy way*

The sad thing is, there are so many stupid people out there, it was just bound to happen sooner or later...

He had been drinking. Not an excuse for criminal actions, but people do act with monumental stupidity when they're drunk.

Haha, awesome. That guy should get a medal. In jumped away at the last second. He must have nerves of steel! Jail time is absolutely wrong. And how would the train conductor be traumatized because of that? I would have laughed my ass off afterwards!

Haha, awesome. That guy should get a medal. In jumped away at the last second. He must have nerves of steel! Jail time is absolutely wrong. And how would the train conductor be traumatized because of that? I would have laughed my ass off afterwards!

Jail time to stop other people trying to copy him. Balls of stupidity you mean, i think the train should have hit him, then we wouldn't need to waste money on court hearings for this guy. But i don't understand how the train conductor is traumatised, it's not his fault if daft people want to do daft things.

Jail time to stop other people trying to copy him. Balls of stupidity you mean, i think the train should have hit him, then we wouldn't need to waste money on court hearings for this guy. But i don't understand how the train conductor is traumatised, it's not his fault if daft people want to do daft things.

Oh come on, it was stupid, but that took some balls to do.

Oh come on, it was stupid, but that took some balls to do.

It was stupid. Nothing about balls anywhere, he was trying to impress other people, adds to stupidity factor.

It was stupid. Nothing about balls anywhere, he was trying to impress other people, adds to stupidity factor.

Bah!

Think of the adreneline rush! Haha, I wouldn't do that, but damn. Just damn. I know a few guys who might do that, but I'm not going to encourage them.

Oh come on, it was stupid, but that took some balls to do.Standing in front of a train like that isn't all that dissimilar from walking across a freeway. You're likely to do less damage in the former case, but damage nonetheless. "But nothing happened" is not an excuse for illegal behavior.

Standing in front of a train like that isn't all that dissimilar from walking across a freeway. You're likely to do less damage in the former case, but damage nonetheless. "But nothing happened" is not an excuse for illegal behavior.

I guess so, but still. This guy didn't cause any harm besides giving someone a scare. 2 years in jail seems excessive. Maybe 2 months, or 6 month max.

I guess so, but still. This guy didn't cause any harm besides giving someone a scare. 2 years in jail seems excessive. Maybe 2 months, or 6 month max.Giving someone a trauma is a lot worse than a scare. Again, "nothing happened, even though it might have" is not an excuse. We don't let people off for attempted murder either. A two year maximum penalty is perfectly acceptable in this case, seeing as he may not receive that much. If he's a total ass about what he's done and doesn't realize the harm he's committed, nor apologizes to the poor guy driving the train, then 2 years is what he should get to drive home the point that what he did was unacceptable..

Giving someone a trauma is a lot worse than a scare. Again, "nothing happened, even though it might have" is not an excuse. We don't let people off for attempted murder either. A two year maximum penalty is perfectly acceptable in this case, seeing as he may not receive that much. If he's a total ass about what he's done and doesn't realize the harm he's committed, nor apologizes to the poor guy driving the train, then 2 years is what he should get to drive home the point that what he did was unacceptable..

Oh come on. The driver's faking so he can sue the poor guy. I don't see how someone can become 'traumatized' when nothing happened. I stand by the 6 month max sentence, though it should be a fine and some community service.

What in the name of hell would possess you to do something like that?

He wanted "a bit of a laugh", it seems.

That reminds me of a story that was going around these parts (south-eastern England) a few years ago. I don’t know whether it was actually true or just an urban myth, but allegedly...
That ol’ chestnut has been around longer than you and I have been alive.

And, AFAIK, it couldn’t actually happen.

Oh come on. The driver’s faking so he can sue the poor guy.
How on Earth do you know this?

I don’t see how someone can become ‘traumatized’ when nothing happened
Of course not, that’s why I wave a chainsaw above my 5-year-old nephew’s head, pretending to try and chop his head off. Or run up to young girls on dark streets shouting about how I’m going to rape them, then don’t.

After all, I don’t see how someone can become ‘traumatized’ when nothings happened...

Poor argument.

Oh come on. The driver's faking so he can sue the poor guy. I don't see how someone can become 'traumatized' when nothing happened. I stand by the 6 month max sentence, though it should be a fine and some community service.

I believe the engineer and someone can get traumatized when this happens. I knew one engineer who was pulling a long freight train down the track. Now on this section of track he was going 65 (speed limit is 70) and it has a turn right before a road crossing. Now usually on this turn the crossing guards are down and everyone stops for the train. However on this day, one idiot decide to try to beat the train. The Engineer crashed into the car and the train couldn't stop for a mile and a half. Both occupant in the car died.

The trauma comes from the fact that you know or think you have taken a life, even though it was out of your control, the fact that you have taken a life is reason enough to be traumatized.

You know, I have seen footage before of idiots going onto the track, and would agree that letting them get hit is a good idea.
Problem is the type of train: if you get hit by a maglve, you'll probably derail it and make a mess of the paintwork, as with all very fast trains (TGV, etc.).

I think they should use some of this to make the fences, instead of the crappy palisades they use in my country, which anyone can climb over:
Tangle wire (http://www.birminghambarbedtape.co.uk/tangle_wire.htm)
Or, even better:
Razor mesh (http://http://www.birminghambarbedtape.co.uk/razor_mesh.htm)

I would like to see the idiots climb or cut this, and have a few hidden camera to watch them try and climb!

You know, I have seen footage before of idiots going onto the track, and would agree that letting them get hit is a good idea.
Problem is the type of train: if you get hit by a maglve, you'll probably derail it and make a mess of the paintwork, as with all very fast trains (TGV, etc.).

I think they should use some of this to make the fences, instead of the crappy palisades they use in my country, which anyone can climb over:
Tangle wire (http://www.birminghambarbedtape.co.uk/tangle_wire.htm)
Or, even better:
Razor mesh (http://http://www.birminghambarbedtape.co.uk/razor_mesh.htm)

I would like to see the idiots climb or cut this, and have a few hidden camera to watch them try and climb!

I couldn't get razor mesh to work can you post a different link?

http://www.cochranesteel.com/razor-mesh.html

Ouch, those looks like it'll hurt! :eek:

http://www.cochranesteel.com/razor-mesh.html

http://www.cochranesteel.com/razor-mesh.html

thanks wow, that could be painful to climb up

http://www.cochranesteel.com/razor-mesh.html

Wonder if that's legal in cities... I was thinking Russian Olive, but that's shiny!

Add cameras for the lulz factor: I doubt with a new one of those that even someone in thick gloves could climb up without having his hands and arms torn to shreds, and it would be hilareous to watch a load of chavs trying to climb it!
And, sure, I do believe this is legal. I don't know then why I don't see more of it.

Personally I would've increased the speed of the train.....

What? Don't look at me like that, I'm just saying what everyone is thinking! If he wants to be an idiot, then let him pay for the consequences.

Agreed totally

He jumped away? Way to miss your chance at a Darwin Award, drunken idiot.

He jumped away? Way to miss your chance at a Darwin Award, drunken idiot.

Agreed.

But i don't understand how the train conductor is traumatised, it's not his fault if daft people want to do daft things.
You've obviously never seen what happens to a person after they've been hit by a train. Think about how you'd feel if you were driving something that couldn't stop and you saw a person delibrately jump out in front of your vehicle. You head towards them knowing that you're going to kill them in an extremely painful and messy way - and there's absolutely nothing you can do to stop it.
I'd say most people would be pretty beaten up about that.

You've obviously never seen what happens to a person after they've been hit by a train. Think about how you'd feel if you were driving something that couldn't stop and you saw a person delibrately jump out in front of your vehicle. You head towards them knowing that you're going to kill them in an extremely painful and messy way - and there's absolutely nothing you can do to stop it.
I'd say most people would be pretty beaten up about that.

Anyone who has ever driven in a city has probably experienced this. Some of those J walkers can be pretty arrogant about it too. Once while I was driving a guy decided to walk across the road at an intersection when he had a red light. I slammed on the brakes to avoid hitting him and he yelled at me.

I would have laughed if the idiot jumped the wrong way...
However, I would be traumitised if I had a guy go in front of my train, since I know either he's gonna hit the front of the train and splatter everywhere (not very nice) or get dragged under and chopped into little pieces by the wheels. And if you were in the maintenance depot and track clearing, and had to clean up after, that wouldn't be the nicest of jobs either.

(*Cuts to track after idiot runs in front of train*)

"Hey Joe! You had any luck seeing where the legs are?"
"No, but I found the head over here in the bushes!"

He jumped away? Way to miss your chance at a Darwin Award, drunken idiot.
Selfish bastard, at that. He could've served an even better example.
What a waste.

That ol’ chestnut has been around longer than you and I have been alive.
How long are you guessing I've been alive for?

And, AFAIK, it couldn’t actually happen.

What a shame... ;)

Oh come on. The driver's faking so he can sue the poor guy.Prove that. I don't see how someone can become 'traumatized' when nothing happened. Psychological traumas are rather irrelevant to what really happened. The only thing important is what you experience, and that driver experienced killing someone with a speeding train.
I stand by the 6 month max sentence, though it should be a fine and some community service.Nah.

Anyone who has ever driven in a city has probably experienced this.

To a lesser degree. You generally do not have a few 100 people behind you in a car that will get seriously hurt if you hit the brakes...
And of course a train is much heavier than a car, so far harder to stop...

How long are you guessing I’ve been alive for?
I’d imagine less than how many years it’s been since the railways were electrified?

2 years? I realize that's only the potential maximum, but jeez...

2 years? I realize that's only the potential maximum, but jeez...

Far too little. Endangering the people in the train, traumatizing the driver and causing the potential for a train being late ?

Thing is, no-one would notice in England if the train was late: as part of Gordan Brown's age of change for the UK, he has decreed that all trains be late and cramped, with people being charged even more for the privalge of them running late. And using the company networkRail that appears to be completely inadequate at doing its job of keeping the track repairs on time.
Last time I took a train, it was 15 minutes late. And that is usual, without anything like leaves on the line.

Thing is, no-one would notice in England if the train was late: as part of Gordan Brown’s age of change for the UK, he has decreed that all trains be late and cramped, with people being charged even more for the privalge of them running late.
As the railways are privatised now, it’s hardly Browns fault.

Anyone who has ever driven in a city has probably experienced this. Some of those J walkers can be pretty arrogant about it too. Once while I was driving a guy decided to walk across the road at an intersection when he had a red light. I slammed on the brakes to avoid hitting him and he yelled at me.
Let me guess what he said: "I'm walking here! I'm walking here!"

So you condone murder then? Nice.

Murder of the suicidally stupid. Yes.


Does anyone deserve to die? How can we possibly judge that?


Personally I hope the arsehole gets a really long prison sentence, longer than two years, and a lot of community service. And he should pay for the driver's counselling.

That ol’ chestnut has been around longer than you and I have been alive.How long are you guessing I've been alive for?I’d imagine less than how many years it’s been since the railways were electrified?
Well, yes, I think so as far as this region's tracks are concerned... but I doubt whether the story could actually go right back to the dawn of electrification, because such behaviour would have been so unlikely in the early days (due to higher standards of [average] public behaviour back before the '60s) that I couldn't see this tale being invented & passed on then...
(And I was born in 1960, which is some time before the average birthdate for those NS-ers whose ages I've seen mentioned...)