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oh noes! Two terms and a bit terms with him as British PM was enough as it is... :(

http://politics.guardian.co.uk/tonyblair/story/0,,2240063,00.html

Oh dear.

I hope to God that the bastard crashes and burns. He's not exactly the most loved person in the whole damned continent, and having his grinning face beaming at me from Brussels is the last thing I want.

who else is running?


sure you dont want bill clinton?

yay!

...I guess I'm the only one who wants to see Gordan Brown get screwed by Blair :p

yay!

...I guess I'm the only one who wants to see Gordan Brown get screwed by Blair :p

Now that's a truly disastrous mental image of epic proportions...

Good for Blair!

Good for Blair!
But bad for everyone else. Damned Thatcherite.

Nobody in Europe (outside the UK) likes Blair. I am not even sure if anyone inside the UK does. He just won't get votes.

oh noes! Two terms and a bit terms with him as British PM was enough as it is... :(

http://politics.guardian.co.uk/tonyblair/story/0,,2240063,00.html

Oh, please no...we don't need him as EU President.

I'd rather have what'sherface Royal who ran against Sarkozy.

Nobody in Europe (outside the UK) likes Blair. I am not even sure if anyone inside the UK does. He just won't get votes.Sarkozy likes Blair...

Why won't he do the decent thing and jump off a very tall building?

But bad for everyone else. Damned Thatcherite.

Excuse me. Many things Tony Blair was, including the worst thing to have happened to British politics, well, ever, in the democratic era, but he was not a Thatcherite. As ever, the forces of the uninformed left throw the term "Thatcherite" about as they would "Nazi". To insult rather than add any meaning or illumination.

Now that's a truly disastrous mental image of epic proportions...

now think that Mr and Mrs Blair have performed some weird action that has produced children

can you get pregnant from betraying the poor?

I'd rather have what'sherface Royal who ran against Sarkozy.

I'd rather have someone who will abolish the travesty that is CAP and that someone won't be French

To be fair, if it wasn't for the Iraq war and his subsequent Bush arse licking, he would probably still be quite popular. I mean he has actually improved the economy quite a bit since he was elected, the only thing getting worse being house prices.

Is the position to be voted for by just other heads-of-government in the EU?

To be fair, if it wasn't for the Iraq war and his subsequent Bush arse licking, he would probably still be quite popular. I mean he has actually improved the economy quite a bit since he was elected, the only thing getting worse being house prices.

he fixed Ireland

just for that if he ever visits I will get out the chocolate hobnobs :)

he fixed Ireland

just for that if he ever visits I will get out the chocolate hobnobs :)
But still spit in his tea :p

Yeah, that was a good thing.

EDIT: Crap, I would never spit in anyone's tea. More likely poke a hole in the teabag and then put the resultant mess down as an accident.

To be fair, if it wasn't for the Iraq war and his subsequent Bush arse licking, he would probably still be quite popular. I mean he has actually improved the economy quite a bit since he was elected, the only thing getting worse being house prices.

Wrong on two (well, many, but two specifically where the economy is concerned) counts;

Firstly, Tony Blair did fuck all for the economy. Gordon Brown did so, and Blair could hardly have not given the role to him in 1997 either.

Secondly, Walter Eliot from "Persuasion" could have ensured prosperity in the global economic climate Brown has been fortunate enough to enjoy. Even then he has managed to lose people their pensions, implement 100 tax rises and counting and generally piss ever greater sums of public money away desperately hoping it might improve public services. All we have to thank Gordon Brown for is answering the great post-war question of whether public services can be improved simply by throwing money senselessly at them; he has proven this is not the case.

Damned Thatcherite.
Lol.

1. The "President" of the EU Council has no executive power.
2. He is not elected by the people, but by the members of the EU Council, meaning the heads of state.

he fixed Ireland

just for that if he ever visits I will get out the chocolate hobnobs :)

Yeah, this to was actually quite good.

Lol.

1. The "President" of the EU Council has no executive power.
2. He is not elected by the people, but by the members of the EU Council, meaning the heads of state.
Even so. Back to my first post about him grinning from Brussels.

I had a sickly feeling Blair might pull something like this. He’s still got that power-hunger; you could see it when he left Downing Street. Sure, it’s not the most powerful position in the world, but it still means Blair’s got his fingers in some pies.

And surprise, surprise:

‘Europe is not a question of left or right, but a question of the future or the past, of strength or weakness,’ said the former British Prime Minister... ‘It’s about today versus yesterday. Less about politics and more about a state of mind; open as opposed to closed,’ he said.
He didn’t leave the meaningless, non-committal rhetoric back at Number 10

Firstly, Tony Blair did fuck all for the economy. Gordon Brown did so, and Blair could hardly have not given the role to him in 1997 either.


Bollocks, it's not all done by Gordon Brown, Blair does have a role in organising the budget along with Brown.


Secondly, Walter Eliot from "Persuasion" could have ensured prosperity in the global economic climate Brown has been fortunate enough to enjoy. Even then he has managed to lose people their pensions

It's not like we ever really had a good pension system.

implement 100 tax rises

I disagree with this move, but this isn't necessarily bad for the economy.


and generally piss ever greater sums of public money away desperately hoping it might improve public services. All we have to thank Gordon Brown for is answering the great post-war question of whether public services can be improved simply by throwing money senselessly at them; he has proven this is not the case.

There's a lot of bullshit floating around about our public services. It can be demonstrated that most of the faults lie with individual management of different areas, and not central faults.

Lol.

1. The "President" of the EU Council has no executive power.
2. He is not elected by the people, but by the members of the EU Council, meaning the heads of state.I thought that was the old President.

I thought the new one, as per the Treaty, will be elected and have considerably more power.

*double checks*

*double checks*
I think you might be right. They are replacing the "country takes over rotating presidency" system with an elected guy.

I stand corrected, and baffled at the sheer complexity of it all.

To be fair, if it wasn't for the Iraq war and his subsequent Bush arse licking, he would probably still be quite popular..Mr Blair I hope you may someday read this, and even if you dont, here it is anyways:


Mr Blair, You have to sleep in the bed you make. ;)

I hope he fails very badly.

The concept of left and right is only redundant because all political parties are exactly the same in any given country. Blair is only not a Thatcherite because he isn't supporting Thatcher as prime minister. In every other way his government was quite very similar to the old Conservatives and oo the new conservatives as well and not too dissimilar to the liberal democrats part from the lib dems are a bit more liberal...party dissimilarity is breeding voter apathy.

If the ex Rev Smiler is elected to even the 'lowly' position of animal warden I'd demand a recount.

I think you might be right. They are replacing the "country takes over rotating presidency" system with an elected guy.

That's a good thing to get rid of - the sheer size of the EU at this stage makes the rotation ridiculous.

I don't personally have a problem with Blair - he wasn't my leader, and he's not as rabidly insane as say.... Berlusconi.

*shrug*

Could be a worse candidate for a role of hardly any real power.

Nobody in Europe (outside the UK) likes Blair.
I'm sure there's like at least one European who does.
I am not even sure if anyone inside the UK does.
No, we don't. Nor Brown, who's like Blair, but with less charisma, and even more smug.
He just won't get votes.
No shit.

I'm sure there's like at least one European who does.

No, we don't. Nor Brown, who's like Blair, but with less charisma, and even more smug.

No shit.

Sarkozy would be that one European...

Yeah I never thought there could a more smug person than the Rev Smiler.

I hate myself for saying this but from a strictly weird politics scenario (Blair 'needs' to do something) I want to see this played out strictly for kicks...but the reality that he is running is...disconcerting.

I call him the Rev Smiler. Partly taken from the TB stories in Private Eye and his constant fucking smiles. PE had it spot on with the Reverend moniker...like some 18th century missionary Reverend sent to 'sort out the natives'...you can take it as read that this also includes the pathological inability to admit to mistakes.

I could carry on but I reckon most know my view on him.

He will get votes...he might well even win it. I would not bet against him.

I had a sickly feeling Blair might pull something like this. He’s still got that power-hunger; you could see it when he left Downing Street. Sure, it’s not the most powerful position in the world, but it still means Blair’s got his fingers in some pies.

And surprise, surprise:


He didn’t leave the meaningless, non-committal rhetoric back at Number 10

"Today is not a day for soundbites, but I feel the hand of history on our shoulders"

Possibly the greatest quote ever.