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I was watching some silly show about the 'best' barbecue a little earlier today. That made me think back to a time when I visited Texas. We went for barbecue and the only thing the restaurant had on the menu was some beef, doused with a candy-sweet sauce. Absolutely disgusting. Texans should stick to what they know best -- steaks.

Anyone from around here knows that the meat can be dry-rubbed or made with a sauce. One thing never changes though.

If it ain't from a pig, it ain't real barbecue.

Anyone care to defend beef or (I can't believe it's not fried) chicken?

I was watching some silly show about the 'best' barbecue a little earlier today. That made me think back to a time when I visited Texas. We went for barbecue and the only thing the restaurant had on the menu was some beef, doused with a candy-sweet sauce. Absolutely disgusting. Texans should stick to what they know best -- steaks.

Anyone from around here knows that the meat can be dry-rubbed or made with a sauce. One thing never changes though.

If it ain't from a pig, it ain't real barbecue.

Anyone care to defend beef or (I can't believe it's not fried) chicken?

Barbecue is a way to cook the food. so yeah, jucy beef ribs... steak... chicken has to be carefully cooked or it's dry...

Gross. BBQ thats sweet it nasty. it needs to be both sweet, and smokey.

I don't like barbecue. At all. Ever.

Barbecue is a way to cook the food. so yeah, jucy beef ribs... steak... chicken has to be carefully cooked or it's dry...
Must be a language thing... Around these parts, barbecue is the food. And it's only cooked one way, slowly, over a hickory fire.

I don't like barbecue. At all. Ever.

Fascist.

Hitler didn't like barbecue. You don't want to be like Hitler, do you?

Must be a language thing... Around these parts, barbecue is the food. And it's only cooked one way, slowly, over a hickory fire.

could be.

hicory's good. but here in Hawaii... we use Koa wood. mmmm... now I'm hungry. thanks! :(

could be.

hicory's good. but here in Hawaii... we use Koa wood. mmmm... now I'm hungry. thanks! :(

IIRC, Hawai'ian barbecue is significantly different from mainland barbecue. You guys borrow much more from your polynesian roots then from the stuff Carolina or KC barbecue does.

barbecue does not equal grilled. call it what you like, that charcoal brazier-type grill or gas grill is not a real barbecue.

that said, grilled steaks and beef ribs from a charcoal grill are awesome. pork is best for actual authentic barbecue.

IIRC, Hawai'ian barbecue is significantly different from mainland barbecue. You guys borrow much more from your polynesian roots then from the stuff Carolina or KC barbecue does.

true, but even then, barbecue is still the style it's cooked and not just the pork that is cooked. ;)

California barbecue as opposed to Southern style barbecue (both good incidentally, just different).

I like to marinate my beef in a soy sauce, ginger, scallion, garlic mixture - possibly with a little rice wine thrown in - throw it on the grill and baste with the marinade. Or if I'm feeling like a purist, just toss a steak on the grill and baste with melted butter and garlic. Same with chicken and fish.

Pork - I prefer a rub of rosemary, garlic powder, sea salt and pepper - rub it in, let it sit, preferably overnight. Then throw it on the grill. Baste with garlic infused olive oil.

I also grill vegetables - potatoes, sweet potatoes, corn, tomatoes, squash - any kind. For dessert, core an apple and stuff it with butter, cinnamon and brown sugar, wrap it in foil and stick it in the coals until it's tender. Good stuff.

Always use a charcoal grill, the taste from a gas grill is just not right.

If it ain't from a pig, it ain't real barbecue.

Anyone care to defend beef or (I can't believe it's not fried) chicken?


then don't came to OZ as we don't care what we BBQ, some poeple do Emu meat and Kangaroo meat

Barbecue is a way to cook the food. so yeah, jucy beef ribs... steak... chicken has to be carefully cooked or it's dry...

You can either boil the chicken first, and then slap on the sauce and sear it on the BBQ, or you can wrap the chicken in foil until it's mostly cooked, remove the foil, slap on the sauce, and sear it. Either way keeps it juicy.

then don't came to OZ as we don't care what we BBQ, some poeple do Emu meat and Kangaroo meat

That's right it is the way you do it cooking it on a BBQ altough in saying that there are some things that should never be BBQed such as tofu (I have seen someone do it disgusting)

never be BBQed such as tofu

i've heard of that and why would you do it

Ribs, dogs, burgers, chicken, steak. It's all good to me! :)

That's right it is the way you do it cooking it on a BBQ altough in saying that there are some things that should never be BBQed such as tofu (I have seen someone do it disgusting)

Tofu shouldn't even be considered food. Ew.

I like just about any kind of barbecue, so long as it's done properly.

Bad barbecue is... Ugh. I've had some that tastes like soap with some herbs and spices, and believe me, that's not something you want lingering on your tongue.

Tennessee style BBQ, the shredded, slow cooked pork sort with tangy spicy non-sweet sauce. (from a place called Honey Bear in Sunny Phoenix- "You don't need no teef to eat our meat"), and innumerable delicious cuts of char siuu here in Guangdong, with fat that feels like hot cream in the mouth and tastes transcendental.

I always thought BBQ was in the recipe as opposed to the style of cooking, which I always refer too as grilling. I can't grill very well at all but I can make a great BBQ with a broiler...


Where did the name Barbeque come from anyway? Did it come from some sadistic little child putting her barbie dolls on the grill? "Barbies on the grill, your in queu Ken!"

Or perhaps that was the name of the first cavemen to be burned alive by a fire and the name just stuck?

bar-b-q isn't something that is done in a restaurant. it isn't a sauce. it isn't done with "briquettes". and it don't make diddly what kind of meat is involved. it could even be vegitarian.

bar-b-q, is when you dig a hole in the ground. put rocks arround it to rest some sort of gril on, usually one of them wire shelves out of an old refrigerator.

then you either build a fire in it and let that burn down to glowing embers, or get natural charcoal to but in it and get them glowing hot, but no actual flames still comming out of them. the you set the grill on top and put the meat or whatever on that grill and cook it that way. and of course you can also wrap other stuff in tin(aluminum) foil and burry them down in the glowing (char)coals.

when you cook something that way, that is what bar-b-q is. anything else is just, well it can be good too, but its just something entirely else.

oh you can have it on sticks that are stuck in the ground and leaning over it too. that's the indiginous way to cook salmon. i think that counts as a kind of honorary bar-b-q.

and then of course there's those big outdoor feed where 55 gallon drums are used in place of the hole in the ground so the cooks don't have to bend over or get down on their knees, where you have a whole lot of people to feed, well that's ok too. but already that's starting to get a little bit away from the idea of what it really is.

and so are briquettes. i mean the things is, the whole idea of real bar-b-q is getting away from this bussiness of money having to be involved any more then can be avoided. the whole making everything have to begin and end with little green pieces of paper bit is just the complete opposite of what its all about.

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I haven't been to many Barbeques (or however it's meant to be spelt), most of my friends enjoy going to them, but as it's usually cloudy or raining, occaisons for BBQ's are rare, personally i like the burgers and rolls and maybe a beer but that's about it.
So to conclude i have a new idea.
P1)(premise 1) BBQ's are good for you as they bring people together.
P2) People enjoy being together.
P3) BBQ's help the economy when people buy kits.
C) (conclusion) Let's have a BBQ.
:)

bbq is the best way of cooking anything, except soup.

I absolutely love BBQ! Fortunately I live close to KC, the BBQ capital of the universe, so I can have some whenever I want it. I do like some NC BBQ, too, but I like KC BBQ the best.

Fascist.

Hitler didn't like barbecue. You don't want to be like Hitler, do you?
:p

Seriously though, I really don't like barbecue. I don't know what it is, but no barbecue I've ever tasted has ever tasted good to me, regardless of whether it's Kentucky, Georgian, Hawaiian, or what have you.

I absolutely love BBQ! Fortunately I live close to KC, the BBQ capital of the universe, so I can have some whenever I want it. I do like some NC BBQ, too, but I like KC BBQ the best.

BBQ is absolutely fucking amazing! Though I'd have to say, even better than BBQ is very rare steak. Most people find it disgusting, but I love it. Though it'll probably kill me by the time I'm 35.

bbq is the best way of cooking anything, except soup.

Actually, I have cooked soup on a barbecue. It's ... interesting.

Actually, I have cooked soup on a barbecue. It's ... interesting.

o.0 how??

I'm from Kansas City, so of course I like barbecue - and anything other than KC-style barbecue obviously won't cut it. The stuff they make in Tennessee and Texas is okay, but it's not proper barbecue. :p

I'm from Kansas City, so of course I like barbecue - and anything other than KC-style barbecue obviously won't cut it. The stuff they make in Tennessee and Texas is okay, not it's not proper barbecue. :p

Haha, I concur!

o.0 how??

You get a kettle and put it on the grill, add soup makings and let it cook. Not very efficient, but it does make the neighbors question your sanity.

HA! I am from Texas and no one but Texas does it right. KC & Tenn are a good runners up - but seriously we all do BBQ a little different from region to region - and as I have tried them all, I do have to say that I love them all

and the person who got sickly sweet BBQ in Texas musta bought from from a damnyankee import who didn't know jack ( as in Jack Daniels in the sauce is a damnfine addition)

And BBQ and grilling are two seperate things - BBQ smokes long and slow and comes out tender as the proverbial baby's butt.

Grilling is a fine way of cooking and I can do just about anything on the grill and have it come out mouth watering - but they are two entirely different cooking methods..

And I don't feel that pork is superior over beef - but the origins of southern BBQ is so wrapped up in the pig as to be inseperable.

Texas had more beef, that is why it is mroe prevellant than pork BBQ