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http://www.channel3000.com/news/15028403/detail.html

Arrested and charged with crimes for a food fight. A food fight! :eek:

If food fights were a crime, I'd be on "America's Most Wanted". :(

It doesn't say they were arrested.

Or doth my post-finals eyes deceive me?

Ah, LG, if you were a kid now you'd be drugged into submission drooling into a cup if the teacher's ever got a hold of you. Unless you're parents were cool, which seems likely.

It doesn't say they were arrested.

Or doth my post-finals eyes deceive me?
Technically you're arrested even when you get a ticket. Essentially being summoned to court to face charges is being arrested, even if it doesn't involve being cuffed and dragged off.

this says much about the quality of the cafeteria food if you go to court for throwing it :D

of course the police are just protecting them from retaliatory attacks, I hear one child was pied to death and another drowned in a candy floss machine

Technically you're arrested even when you get a ticket. Essentially being summoned to court to face charges is being arrested, even if it doesn't involve being cuffed and dragged off.

How silly and odd.

Thats crazy, it was harmless fun.

Did you miss when they declared all school disobedience to be a crime?

http://www.channel3000.com/news/15028403/detail.html

Arrested and charged with crimes for a food fight. A food fight! :eek:

If food fights were a crime, I'd be on "America's Most Wanted". :(

*checks "America's Most Wanted"*

nope, not there yet LG :p

If food fights were a crime, I'd be on "America's Most Wanted". :(

You mean you're not already!? :eek:


;)


Edit: Dyakovo beat me to it. :p

You mean you're not already!? :eek:


;)


Edit: Dyakovo beat me to it. :p

nyah :p

Did you miss when they declared all school disobedience to be a crime?Not if you now technicalities of the law.

It has scared off more then a few deans and teachers from me. Even once a security guard got on my back and I told him if he touched, without me advocating or using violence, I would sue him for assault.

It doesn't say they were arrested.

Or doth my post-finals eyes deceive me?

rom the article: "Three students pleaded not guilty to disorderly conduct in municipal court. "

That's a criminal charge, not a civil one.

rom the article: "Three students pleaded not guilty to disorderly conduct in municipal court. "

That's a criminal charge, not a civil one.

Yes, but where I live, one needn't be arrested (we don't actually have anything we call "arrest") for a criminal charge.

Ah, LG, if you were a kid now you'd be drugged into submission drooling into a cup if the teacher's ever got a hold of you.

Fortunately, I learned very quickly what answers the school psychologist wanted to hear. :p

Yes, but where I live, one needn't be arrested (we don't actually have anything we call "arrest") for a criminal charge.

:confused:

http://www.channel3000.com/news/15028403/detail.html

Arrested and charged with crimes for a food fight. A food fight! :eek:

If food fights were a crime, I'd be on "America's Most Wanted". :(

wait... PASTA BAR!?!

in a SCHOOL CAFETERIA?

WTF!!!

The only 'bar' we had was SALAD... and the choices were if you wanted tomatos, Cucumbers or carrorts and what type of dressing (in tiny containers) with your lettuce.

man, kids these days are sure spoiled rotten. :mad:

Yes, but where I live, one needn't be arrested (we don't actually have anything we call "arrest") for a criminal charge.

Here, it takes a police officer's involvement. Now the article wasn't clear on this but as they were charged, the police must've been called to the school(which is insane for a food fight). It is possible they were charged(ticketed) at the scene and released, but considering that some of the offenders were juvenile, they were probably only released into their parent's custody. Considering the 'Disorderly Conduct' charge, they were more likely taken to a police station and processed(fingerprinted, photographed, etc.). That'd qualify as a full-fledged arrest. *nod*

Free the Monona Grove 7! :p

What the hell has this world come to? One more thing for me to blame the baby boomers for screwing up.

What the hell has this world come to? One more thing for me to blame the baby boomers for screwing up.

Ah, you know...us Xers are joining the fuck up...the oldest of Gen X are now old enough to have kids graduating high school, I believe. How's that for a fucked up thought? Aging Generation X...

Ah, you know...us Xers are joining the fuck up...the oldest of Gen X are now old enough to have kids graduating high school, I believe. How's that for a fucked up thought? Aging Generation X...

Lol I am one of those aging Gen X'rs.

Lol I am one of those aging Gen X'rs.

Well, the naked hate for Baby Boomers was a sure tip off...

Lol I am one of those aging Gen X'rs.

Does this mean I get to blame you for all of the world's troubles in a couple of decades?

EDIT: Not you specifically but the people in your designated generation (which would include you anyway).

Does this mean I get to blame you for all of the world's troubles in a couple of decades?

EDIT: Not you specifically but the people in your designated generation (which would include you anyway).

I reserve the right to blame the Internet for the decay of society.

I reserve the right to blame the Internet for the decay of society.
More specifically, NS? :p

:confused:

We have something called "gripande", "anhållande" and "häktning", which are all deprivations of liberty. "Gripande" is done by a police officer if there is a pressing need and conditions for "anhållande" can be assumed to exist. "Anhållande" is decided on by a prosecutor and can be done if conditions for "häktning" can be assumed to exist - an "anhållande" can last for at most 3 three days, upon which one must either be set free or the prosecutor present a case for "häktning" before a court of law.

Courts can only order a "häktning" for a crime that has at least a penalty of 1 year imprisonment and if there is a reason for it. Generally the reasons are that there is a risk of recidivism, risk of tampering with evidence or colluding, a risk of flight, or the crime has a penalty rate of over 2 years imprisonment and it is not apparent that there are reasons against a "häktning", or if the person is a vagabond or not resident in Sweden.

None of those three would be needed in this case (nor prosecution at all, since I have a very hard time thinking any prosecutor would press charges and under what law), and they could easily be notified "suspicion of having committed a crime" and present themselves to a court of law without any sort of "arrest" or detention or deprivation of liberty.

wait... PASTA BAR!?!

in a SCHOOL CAFETERIA?

WTF!!!

The only 'bar' we had was SALAD... and the choices were if you wanted tomatos, Cucumbers or carrorts and what type of dressing (in tiny containers) with your lettuce.

man, kids these days are sure spoiled rotten. :mad:

At least your food had nutritional value. When I went to school (I graduated last year), half the food was greasier than McDonalds fries and only a third was good enough for human consumption. Sure, you could make your own, but when the system believes that more homework always means better students and school days begin at 7 in the morning, who would have time to make a sandwich AND bathe? I found that vending machine food was far more nutritional than regular school food and better tasting.

As for the topic, wtf? Geeze, I'd play video games right now, but with food fights now deemed crimes, I'm afraid I'd get the chair for stomping on one more goomba.

school days begin at 7

:eek: what sort of barbaric prison did you go to?!

At least your food had nutritional value. When I went to school (I graduated last year)...

Oh yeah? well when I was going to school, we were fed nothing but rocks on a bed of gravel! And Phys Ed consisted of working in the coal mines! And if you got a question wrong on your math test, the teacher set you on fire! ANd we were happy! :mad:

:p

We have something called "gripande", "anhållande" and "häktning", which are all deprivations of liberty. "Gripande" is done by a police officer if there is a pressing need and conditions for "anhållande" can be assumed to exist. "Anhållande" is decided on by a prosecutor and can be done if conditions for "häktning" can be assumed to exist - an "anhållande" can last for at most 3 three days, upon which one must either be set free or the prosecutor present a case for "häktning" before a court of law.

Courts can only order a "häktning" for a crime that has at least a penalty of 1 year imprisonment and if there is a reason for it. Generally the reasons are that there is a risk of recidivism, risk of tampering with evidence or colluding, a risk of flight, or the crime has a penalty rate of over 2 years imprisonment and it is not apparent that there are reasons against a "häktning", or if the person is a vagabond or not resident in Sweden.

None of those three would be needed in this case (nor prosecution at all, since I have a very hard time thinking any prosecutor would press charges and under what law), and they could easily be notified "suspicion of having committed a crime" and present themselves to a court of law without any sort of "arrest" or detention or deprivation of liberty.

OK, thanks Fass.

:eek: what sort of barbaric prison did you go to?!

My school's day begins at 7:45am and ends at 4:00pm. However, few students are in for all of those hours: first and second period (each 42 minutes long, with a 4 minute passing between) are generally just for seniors and allow them to get out before noon if they've only a few classes left before graduation.

Sophs through Juniors go 10:13- 4:00pm. (And even they may not go all the way through.)

Me, I always request early session. I'm kicking back with tea by 3:00pm on my couch with the cat. (Then after dinner I'm busy with grading, lessons, etc. until 11pm or so, but that's another story.)

My school opened its doors at 8:15 sharp for classes and ran on until 4:15 on the dot, lunch was exactly 35 minutes long for each of the three periods and the food was better than most schools. For a middle of nowhere school with a graduating class of 83 people it was actually pretty liberal... a food fight only landed me and my freinds in ISS... in fact I was even permitted to buy a second lunch (to eat) after the fact even though I had to take it in the office... and I NEVER did get that ISS.....

My sentence was lowered to 2 days of detention.

At age 17 and 18 they really ought to know better.

However, a punishment that would fit the crime much better would be to pay for the value of the wasted food, to have had to clean up the mess they made, and possibly to have helped clean the cafeteria for a week so's to gain an appreciation for the nastiness they left for the custodial crew.

The good thing, for the minors, is that this will be sealed when they reach the age of majority.

Thats crazy, it was harmless fun.

To be the devil's advocate:

1) it was a waste of food
2) it caused a horrendous mess
3) people could well slip and fall in flung food, which would equal a lawsuit against the school were they to be hurt.

To be the devil's advocate:

1) it was a waste of food
2) it caused a horrendous mess
3) people could well slip and fall in flung food, which would equal a lawsuit against the school were they to be hurt.

but what about that Spanish tomato fight ritual thingy, that's a food fight as far as i know no-one is sent to court for that.
However seeing as this is a school, things change, if they were just plain idiots then i don't see why they shouldn't be sent to court. The other side is that it wastes court time on food fight, when they could be trying people for more serious crimes than flinging a carrot at rocket speed.

To conclude food-fighting is a waste of resources and there is a possibility of people being harmed, however i don't think they should go to court for it, using my example of Spainish tomato fights.
source:
http://www.spanish-fiestas.com/spanish-festivals/la-tomatina-tomato-battle-bunyol.htm

To be the devil's advocate:

1) it was a waste of food
2) it caused a horrendous mess
3) people could well slip and fall in flung food, which would equal a lawsuit against the school were they to be hurt.


1: no, wasting cafeteria food is not a waste of food. The real waste is turning perfectly good food into cafeteria food.

2: Make 'em clean it up

3: :headbang:

but what about that Spanish tomato fight ritual thingy, that's a food fight as far as i know no-one is sent to court for that.

Difference being, that's a sanctioned, set-up event, and that's not occurring in a school lunch room. People are not going to sue if they get hurt because it's understood that it's at your own risk, and everyone involved in it WANTS to be involved. In a cafeteria, you can be hit or hurt whether you're directly involved or not.

However seeing as this is a school, things change, if they were just plain idiots then i don't see why they shouldn't be sent to court. The other side is that it wastes court time on food fight, when they could be trying people for more serious crimes than flinging a carrot at rocket speed.

To conclude food-fighting is a waste of resources and there is a possibility of people being harmed, however i don't think they should go to court for it, using my example of Spainish tomato fights.
source:
http://www.spanish-fiestas.com/spanish-festivals/la-tomatina-tomato-battle-bunyol.htm

I think you hit it on the head: it's not a school.