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Moral Lessons from Movies: Alien vs Predator 2

Laerod
09-01-2008, 19:37
So I went and spent 6 € on that movie. I was partially disappointed. The first ending was ... ugh... worthy of a B-movie describes it well.

Anyway, there was a lot of random killing. Only then I realized, it wasn't random! The aliens and the predator (and to some extent, the US military) are the agents of the Authority, delivering death and damnation to the wicked.

Judging from the people dying, I managed to glean the following important moral lessons from the movie:
- He or she who has premarital sex shall be put to death. >=(
- He or she who falleth in love with someone that did... is OTAY! =D
- He or she who handles guns whilst stoned shall be put to death. >=(
- He or she who handleth guns (or other weapons) whilst not pregnant, juvenile, or ill of health is... OTAY! =D
- He or she who makes use of the healthcare system shall be put to death. >=(
- He or she who is just following orders... is OTAY! =D
- He or she who abuseth their employees shall be put to death. >=(
- He or she who bullieth shall be put to death. >=(
- He or she who bullieth and happens to be black shall be put to death. First. >=(
- He or she who claimeth there are no monsters shall be put to death. >=(
- He or she who doesn't supporteth the troops... is OTAY! =D
- He or she who taketh their child hunting shall be put to death. >=(
- He or she who offereth to take a grieving woman into their own home shall be put to death. >=(
- He or she who heedeth the words of the government shall SURELY be put to death. >=(

In all, I found it weird that the predator no longer went for armed humans, which was what predators were all about. Anyone else have similar reactions to the movie, or did you have the good sense not to go watch it?
Greater Trostia
09-01-2008, 19:44
I had the sense not to see it. Honestly, it's like filmmakers these days have a specific goal of taking all my childhood movie fantasy icons and ass-raping them. What's next, the Hobbit versus the Terminator?

(Actually, that would rock.)
The Imperium of Alaska
09-01-2008, 19:45
- He or she who handles guns whilst stoned shall be put to death. >=(
- He or she who bullieth and happens to be black shall be put to death. First. >=(
- He or she who claimeth there are no monsters shall be put to death. >=(



In all, I found it weird that the predator no longer went for armed humans, which was what predators were all about.

lol, those I think were the funniest. And my take on the whole pred issue was the fact that he was a "cleaner", he wasn't hunting humans but came to clean up the alien mess.
Vandal-Unknown
09-01-2008, 19:45
In all, I found it weird that the predator no longer went for armed humans, which was what predators were all about. Anyone else have similar reactions to the movie, or did you have the good sense not to go watch it?

With lots of hard meat around, why target the soft meat?

Nah, I was pretty satisfied with it overall, I expect nothing less than a mindless bloody carnage (even in the hospital).
Laerod
09-01-2008, 19:54
lol, those I think were the funniest. And my take on the whole pred issue was the fact that he was a "cleaner", he wasn't hunting humans but came to clean up the alien mess.Tru dat. I was a bit disappointed anyway... the killing was just... why'd they have to shuriken the cute girl and then let her romantic interest survive getting stabbed through the back?

With lots of hard meat around, why target the soft meat?

Nah, I was pretty satisfied with it overall, I expect nothing less than a mindless bloody carnage (even in the hospital).Considering how many taboos the carnage was breaking, I'm surprised you didn't get to watch the Predalien eat the babies in the maternity ward.
Daistallia 2104
09-01-2008, 19:58
What's next, the Hobbit versus the Terminator?

(Actually, that would rock.)

Sauron will be baahk!
The Imperium of Alaska
09-01-2008, 20:07
Oh yeah,... there's a "Get to ze choppaaaaaaa" moment.
It was epic. :p
Vandal-Unknown
09-01-2008, 20:08
Oh yeah,... there's a "Get to ze choppaaaaaaa" moment.
Vespertilia
09-01-2008, 20:39
I had the sense not to see it. Honestly, it's like filmmakers these days have a specific goal of taking all my childhood movie fantasy icons and ass-raping them. What's next, the Hobbit versus the Terminator?

(Actually, that would rock.)

You mean, Sauron has sent the Terminator to prevent Bilbo from obtaining the One Ring? :)
Greater Trostia
09-01-2008, 20:46
You mean, Sauron has sent the Terminator to prevent Bilbo from obtaining the One Ring? :)

No, no. That involves too much of the book plots, which are too complicated and un-movielike to work in film.

I mean Sauron is really Bilbo's father, and Frodo's grandson invents a time machine which falls into the hands of the fallen ringwraiths (who will now be the main enemy of the movies, at least until Sauron gets resurrected by the magic of quantum mechanics in Lord of the Rings 7). Naturally, the time traveling ringwraiths recruit the Terminator, and maybe the Predator too, and there's a big explosive battle (Helm's Deep 2) in which Arnie single-handedly defeats a horde of angry time-traveling dark hobbits.
Muravyets
09-01-2008, 21:08
No, no. That involves too much of the book plots, which are too complicated and un-movielike to work in film.

I mean Sauron is really Bilbo's father, and Frodo's grandson invents a time machine which falls into the hands of the fallen ringwraiths (who will now be the main enemy of the movies, at least until Sauron gets resurrected by the magic of quantum mechanics in Lord of the Rings 7). Naturally, the time traveling ringwraiths recruit the Terminator, and maybe the Predator too, and there's a big explosive battle (Helm's Deep 2) in which Arnie single-handedly defeats a horde of angry time-traveling dark hobbits.
I'm in the theater for that one. First row. ;)
Free United States
09-01-2008, 22:12
These rules are the finite rules regarding horror/scary movies. Watch the Scream Trilogy to get all the rules, but it's all there.
Intangelon
09-01-2008, 23:34
As much as I thought this film was a crass exercise in lowest-common-denominator splatter cinema, it helped me immensely. I had recently been tempted to date someone else and was agonizing over it because I am very happy with my current GF. I'll be honest, the temptation is an order of magnitude hotter.

Point is, new woman wanted me to go see a movie with her and her sister + sister's husband (avoiding looking like 3rd wheel donchu know?). New woman ate this movie up, whereas I sat there predicting just about everything well before it happened and laughing at the sheer fromulacity of it all. I seriously tried to let my inner mouth-breather out to enjoy the sheer CGI splattertasticness of the film, but I couldn't. I am now even happier with my GF because I've been shown that, in line with my expectations, someone who genuinely cares for you is instantly hotter than someone with a smokin' body and no taste.

Sorry if that sounded pretentious and arrogant, but that's how I felt, and I've not yet lied to NSG. Why, I don't know.
Laerod
10-01-2008, 12:52
As much as I thought this film was a crass exercise in lowest-common-denominator splatter cinema, it helped me immensely. I had recently been tempted to date someone else and was agonizing over it because I am very happy with my current GF. I'll be honest, the temptation is an order of magnitude hotter.

Point is, new woman wanted me to go see a movie with her and her sister + sister's husband (avoiding looking like 3rd wheel donchu know?). New woman ate this movie up, whereas I sat there predicting just about everything well before it happened and laughing at the sheer fromulacity of it all. I seriously tried to let my inner mouth-breather out to enjoy the sheer CGI splattertasticness of the film, but I couldn't. I am now even happier with my GF because I've been shown that, in line with my expectations, someone who genuinely cares for you is instantly hotter than someone with a smokin' body and no taste.

Sorry if that sounded pretentious and arrogant, but that's how I felt, and I've not yet lied to NSG. Why, I don't know.The friend of mine that I was watching it with kept shushing me because I was giving the next thing away...
HC Eredivisie
10-01-2008, 16:03
The friend of mine that I was watching it with kept shushing me because I was giving the next thing away...
Like 'He's going to die' and 'she's going to die'?:p
Laerod
10-01-2008, 16:08
Like 'He's going to die' and 'she's going to die'?:pAnd "The kids going to die later, because it's going to be hit by facecrawler" and "he's not killed, he's just bait" or "she's going to regret not wearing body armor over that white blouse in the rain, and not just because it let's us see..."
HC Eredivisie
10-01-2008, 16:32
And "The kids going to die later, because it's going to be hit by facecrawler" and "he's not killed, he's just bait" or "she's going to regret not wearing body armor over that white blouse in the rain, and not just because it let's us see..."The last part of that makes me really want to see it.:p

I doubt body armour is usefull when Aliens and Preds are fighting, you'll get shot as trophy, used as carrier mom for a Xenomorph or they'll just killyou at random.:p
Laerod
10-01-2008, 16:34
The last part of that makes me really want to see it.:p

I doubt body armour is usefull when Aliens and Preds are fighting, you'll get shot as trophy, used as carrier mom for a Xenomorph or they'll just killyou at random.:pThat's something that seriously annoyed me. The bolded part simply wasn't true :mad:

And while not everyone with body armor survives, one person that nearly got killed at random actually does, albeit it strikes me as odd why the body armor helped, seeing that it didn't prevent the alien barb from going through...
Laerod
10-01-2008, 16:54
*wants to see it but has to wait*Why that?
HC Eredivisie
10-01-2008, 16:56
Duh, the Pred was cleaning up, not hunting for trophies.:p

*wants to see it but has to wait*
HC Eredivisie
10-01-2008, 17:06
Why that?The premiere is next week.;)
Tsaphiel
10-01-2008, 21:19
Predalien snacks on babies?
I cannot WAIT for this film to be released.