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http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk/7173599.stm

this guy seems to think so. what a numpty. i hope he doesn't have too much influence.

"[Nutter Bishop Bloke] described the government's multicultural policies as divisive."

No shit.

hmmm religious figures being denied access to residential areas sounds like an idea actually

He said the role of chaplains in such places as hospitals, prisons and educational establishments was in jeopardy "either because of financial cuts or because the authorities want 'multi-faith' provision, without regard to the distinctively Christian character of the nation's laws, values, customs and culture".

I should hope so, now maybe we can get that bullshit out of our military

It's a bit extreme to call him a nutter.

You sure you got the right link? I saw nothing in that article about "four nations under God." :confused:

England, Wales, Scotland and Northern Ireland

lets not go too far into this again :p

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk/7173599.stm

this guy seems to think so. what a numpty. i hope he doesn't have too much influence.

You sure you got the right link? I saw nothing in that article about "four nations under God." :confused:

I do so dislike it when people like him start acting as if their words mean anything to us any more.

slow news week, hes probably been saying this for years ;)

Prink.

Hoo boy, that's embarrassing. I have much more respect for the Archbishop of Canterbury than that guy, to be honest. If anything, CofE need less say in government affairs, considering that most of the population describe themselves as atheist (or so I'm told).

I do so dislike it when people like him start acting as if their words mean anything to us any more.

hmmm religious figures being denied access to residential areas sounds like an idea actually



I should hope so, now maybe we can get that bullshit out of our military

Hear hear!

Some guys need to see this as everyone is agaisnt other opinions:

http://youtube.com/watch?v=chqi8m4CEEY

"If there is no evidence he can put forward then it boils down to simple scaremongering "
Ibrahim Mogra,
Muslim Council of Britain

Sounds about right.

England, Wales, Scotland and Northern Ireland

lets not go too far into this again :p

What, like foreigners pointing out that those four don't share the same established church? :p

It's a bit extreme to call him a nutter.

Nono, in lieu of him providing evindence for his claims, I think "Nutter" is indeed the right word to use.

What, like foreigners pointing out that those four don't share the same established church? :p

erm...actually *gets the 10 foot poles out*

There is a link to the article, in the article.

I have much more respect for the Archbishop of Canterbury than that guy, to be honest.
My Grandma thinks he shouldn't just be Archbishop of Canterbury but Prime Minister as well. But then, she reads the Mail.

My Grandma thinks he shouldn't just be Archbishop of Canterbury but Prime Minister as well. But then, she reads the Mail.
Yes, exactly. Bloody Mail readers.

My Grandma thinks he shouldn't just be Archbishop of Canterbury but Prime Minister as well. But then, she reads the Mail.

Well, he does have a lot more sense in him than the rest that get their airtime...not that I would really be prepared to accept a leader that used religion as part of their methods of running the country. I never did like Bliar (sic).

Well, he does have a lot more sense in him than the rest that get their airtime...not that I would really be prepared to accept a leader that used religion as part of their methods of running the country. I never did like Bliar (sic).
If you've got any sense, you stay away from politics and religion. That's my theory.

If you've got any sense, you stay away from politics and religion. That's my theory.

Aww...but I have forms to register a political party on my work computer...and I would genuinely work to help this country (which seems to be a novel concept for some reason).

Aww...but I have forms to register a political party on my work computer...and I would genuinely work to help this country (which seems to be a novel concept for some reason).
Oh, I meant actually run for office when I said politics. Most grassroots political parties have nothing to do with the oligarchy that runs the country, so that's OK.:D

Oh, I meant actually run for office when I said politics. Most grassroots political parties have nothing to do with the oligarchy that runs the country, so that's OK.:D

But I want to do that too. But there's no chance of that because of that crazy little monopoly they call the LibLab Con. Or the big three, however you want to see it.

But I want to do that too. But there's no chance of that because of that crazy little monopoly they call the LibLab Con. Or the big three, however you want to see it.
I do hope it's the Monster Raving Loony Party.

"If there is no evidence he can put forward then it boils down to simple scaremongering "
Ibrahim Mogra,
Muslim Council of Britain

Sounds about right.

The Muslims always say that but I've seen different.

I do hope it's the Monster Raving Loony Party.

I remember them. They pledged to make school teachers wear school uniforms.

Did you know the MRLP once got control of a council?
oh, and when screaming lord sutch died, his cat took over. his cat who was called cat mandu.
and they had an article on how squirrels are dinosaurs in disguise.
I know a bit too much about them...
but i reckon if they, or the conservatives under Boris Johnson, got into power- just for a week- it'd be a bit of a laugh. turn the news into a comedy.
Of course, afterwards we'd need a serious(ly good) leader to clean the mess up.

The Muslims always say that but I've seen different.

You've seen scaremongering without evidence that wasn't scaremongering? This concept confuses me greatly.

You've seen scaremongering without evidence that wasn't scaremongering? This concept confuses me greatly.

No I mean I have heard the Muslims always dismiss criticism as scare mongering even though its generally true.

No I mean I have heard the Muslims always dismiss criticism as scare mongering even though its generally true.

Would you like to provide evidence that this claim is true?

England, Wales, Scotland and Northern Ireland

You seem to have made a typo...let me correct you...

England, Northern Ireland, Scotland, WALES

There...much better ;)

You seem to have made a typo...let me correct you...

England, Northern Ireland, Scotland, WALES

There...much better ;)

I don't think I want to live in such a world :p

Would you like to provide evidence that this claim is true?

Well its not like i have a bunch of links at hand. I am talking from experience and from what i have seen in the news (Even though the news is biased for Muslims...)

I don't think I want to live in such a world :pYou're just jealous because Wales has the coolest flag of the bunch :D

Well its not like i have a bunch of links at hand. I am talking from experience and from what i have seen in the news (Even though the news is biased for Muslims...)

I didn't expect so, though you could wow us all with your very reliable anecdotes.

I think the problem is that people choose to make themselves feel uncomfortable in areas where they feel they are a minority in some respect, when it's most likely that no hatred and exclusivity exists.

Which news, the BBC? If so, no, it's not biased for Muslims, it's biased for multiculturalism and tolerance.

I didn't expect so, though you could wow us all with your very reliable anecdotes.

I think the problem is that people choose to make themselves feel uncomfortable in areas where they feel they are a minority in some respect, when it's most likely that no hatred and exclusivity exists.

Which news, the BBC? If so, no, it's not biased for Muslims, it's biased for multiculturalism and tolerance.


I did not intend to wow you with anecdotes, i told you what i thought (And know).

I did not intend to wow you with anecdotes, i told you what i thought (And know).

You told us what?

No I mean I have heard the Muslims always dismiss criticism as scare mongering even though its generally true.

Ah, yes, 'all criticism of Muslims is normally correct'. Can you give some us some examples of this criticism?

No I mean I have heard the Muslims always dismiss criticism as scare mongering even though its generally true.

Would you like to provide evidence that this claim is true?
This.
Well its not like i have a bunch of links at hand. I am talking from experience and from what i have seen in the news (Even though the news is biased for Muslims...)

Biased for Muslims? Now why oh why would that happen?

The fact that the bishop doesn't care to list the areas which he says this is taking place kind of puts a hole in his argument. It seems a lot like the scensationalist tripe that the Daily Heil regularly comes out with - that the foreigners/heathens/Gypsies are taking over the country and soon it will not be safe for the Little Englanders to walk their green and pleasant land. It's a load of crap and he's not fooling anyone, bar the people who wish to be fooled.

You told us what?



Ah, yes, 'all criticism of Muslims is normally correct'. Can you give some us some examples of this criticism?

Why do you care? I could easily tell you but you clearly want to drag this on and eventually into an argument.

Why do you care? I could easily tell you but you clearly want to drag this on and eventually into an argument.

It's always funny to see this kind of thing.

I could easily tell you on this debate forum but then you'd just debate it :eek:

Why do you care? I could easily tell you but you clearly want to drag this on and eventually into an argument.
Saying "because I know" doesn't really helpt the debate. It's the same as that bishop's argument.

It's always funny to see this kind of thing.

I could easily tell you on this debate forum but then you'd just debate it :eek:

Well I'm not interested in debating really. (Hence why i am not telling you, ok?)

Saying "because I know" doesn't really helpt the debate. It's the same as that bishop's argument.

I stated my opinion and that was that. I don't particularly want a debate right now.

Well its not like i have a bunch of links at hand. I am talking from experience and from what i have seen in the news (Even though the news is biased for Muslims...)



Sung by Bloc Party

The Daily mail say's "the enemy is among us!"
"Taking our women and taking our jobs"
All reasonable thought is being drowned out
By the non-stop baying, baying for blood



Sums up the situation quite well methinks.

You're just jealous because Wales has the coolest flag of the bunch :D

but Dragons don't exist :p

I stated my opinion and that was that. I don't particularly want a debate right now.

oh well then I assert that you are in fact a squirrel agent aiming to usurp the Internet to your own nutty desires :eek:

don't ask me to prove that now because you know I'm right and thats all that matters

I stated my opinion and that was that. I don't particularly want a debate right now.

Then you shouldn't come into a debate forum and post something that is potentially controversial and so vague as to merit questioning from others. Stick to the non-committal or silence if you have nothing to say.

I'm going to bed anyway, goodnight.

but Dragons don't exist :p



oh well then I assert that you are in fact a squirrel agent aiming to usurp the Internet to your own nutty desires :eek:

don't ask me to prove that now because you know I'm right and thats all that matters

Damn if only you new my jokes about Squirrels.

Then you shouldn't come into a debate forum and post something that is potentially controversial and so vague as to merit questioning from others. Stick to the non-committal or silence if you have nothing to say.

I'm going to bed anyway, goodnight.

Well i posted it because the OP clearly wanted a response and i gave one. Your just upset cause you didn't get your debate.

but Dragons don't exist :p


Just like Wales

Just like Wales

Oh Wales exists. Its just Wales is the one in the family that no one really talks about because, well, Wales is weird.

Just like Wales

I heard that Wales wasn't actually a country but a county or something ... But i assume it was another rumour about Wales.

Well i posted it because the OP clearly wanted a response and i gave one. Your just upset cause you didn't get your debate.

trolls

In Norse mythology, repulsive dwarfs who lived in caves or other hidden places. They would steal children and property but hated noise. The troll in the children's story “The Three Billy Goats Gruff,” for example, lives under a bridge and is enraged when he hears the goats crossing the bridge.

http://www.answers.com/trolling&r=67

Just like Wales

well they clearly can't spell all too well to say the least

I heard that Wales wasn't actually a country but a county or something ... But i assume it was another rumour about Wales.
It is a country. It's made up of counties.

Should have built a wall, not a bridge :p

http://www.answers.com/trolling&r=67



well they clearly can't spell all too well to say the least

Part of the reason why i avoided an argument is because i know i would get called a troll.

It is a country. It's made up of counties.

Should have built a wall, not a bridge :p

Why stop there? Why not quietly cut Wales away and let it float out to sea? :p

It is a country. It's made up of counties.

Should have built a wall, not a bridge :p

I don't know why the welsh are classed as a country. Wasn't it property of England for god knows how long? I know the English had a lot of wars with wales that ended up with it being conquered ... I think.

Part of the reason why i avoided an argument is because i know i would get called a troll.
Responding reasonably to an argument would prevent that.

No worries, though.

Why stop there? Why not quietly cut Wales away and let it float out to sea? :p

Because the Irish are people too.

Responding reasonably to an argument would prevent that.

No worries, though.

Well i, rather reasonably rebuked his offer to mash my opinions.

Part of the reason why i avoided an argument is because i know i would get called a troll.

well you have just been called one so that hasn't work out so well has it :p

Because the Irish are people too.

Hey he made a funny. I likes it

Because the Irish are people too.

Here's the next part of my plan. Wales bumps into Ireland. Ireland gets pissed off and launches Wales into the Atlantic Ocean. Wales continues on its way to the Americas.

Here's the next part of my plan. Wales bumps into Ireland. Ireland gets pissed off and launches Wales into the Atlantic Ocean. Wales continues on its way to the Americas.

or we just switch Northern Ireland with Wales and hope EIRE doesn't catch on

well you have just been called one so that hasn't work out so well has it :p

So maybe next time i should not state my opinion unless it politically correct?

...

or we just switch Northern Ireland with Wales and hope EIRE doesn't catch on

The drunkenness is a small price to pay for the "removal" of Wales.

So maybe next time i should not state my opinion unless it politically correct?

...If by "it politically correct" you mean "I'm willing to debate it and support my claims with proof", then yes.

The drunkenness is a small price to pay for the "removal" of Wales.
Meh, I think we already have drunkeness down, what with all the binge drinking an' all.

If by "it politically correct" you mean "I'm willing to debate it and support my claims with proof", then yes.

I don't know why i should have to argue my opinion. I responded to the OP and wasn't interested in a debate. I've seen how "controversial" debates end up in NSG, and well I'm not remotely interested in them.

or we just switch Northern Ireland with Wales and hope EIRE doesn't catch on

Interesting proposition. However the Irish Sea is there for a reason...you know what I mean...

Meh, I think we already have drunkeness down, what with all the binge drinking an' all.

Well we can drink 24 hours a day now, of course drunkenness will die out like the government planned.

Interesting proposition. However the Irish Sea is there for a reason...you know what I mean...

*Ahem* Welsh Sea....

Well we can drink 24 hours a day now, of course drunkenness will die out like the government planned.
Indeed.

I'm yet to find a place that is open for 24 hours. That'd be a hell of a thing to try to do.

*Ahem* Welsh Sea....

You misunderstand me. The Irish and the English had to have their own islands otherwise the world as we know it would come to a complete end.

I don't know why i should have to argue my opinion. I responded to the OP and wasn't interested in a debate. I've seen how "controversial" debates end up in NSG, and well I'm not remotely interested in them.Yeah, well tossing "politically incorrect" assumptions and not backing them up when called on it is considered a social faux pas here.

You misunderstand me. The Irish and the English had to have their own islands otherwise the world as we know it would come to a complete end.

The English version of the world at least.

Yeah, well tossing "politically incorrect" assumptions and not backing them up when called on it is considered a social faux pas here.

If i wanted a in depth debate over controversial subjects I'll do it with my friends or go on StormFront. where, in both cases i wouldn't get "gang banged".

I don't know why the welsh are classed as a country. Wasn't it property of England for god knows how long? I know the English had a lot of wars with wales that ended up with it being conquered ... I think.

I always thought it was interesting that the word "Welsh" evolved from the Saxon word "wealas (way-ah-lahsh)" meaning "foreigner" or "stranger." Just like the Saxons to call the natives of the island they invaded "foreigner."

The English version of the world at least.
:confused:
There's another one?

Just like Wales

Oh Wales exists. Its just Wales is the one in the family that no one really talks about because, well, Wales is weird.

I heard that Wales wasn't actually a country but a county or something ... But i assume it was another rumour about Wales.

It is a country. It's made up of counties.

Should have built a wall, not a bridge :p

I always thought (until I looked it up on Google Earth) that Wales (and England, for that matter) were other names for the United Kingdom as a whole.

Wales is actually a province of the UK.

If i wanted a in depth debate over controversial subjects I'll do it with my friends or go on StormFront. where, in both cases i wouldn't get "gang banged".

Then what did you come here for in the first place?

I always thought (until I looked it up on Google Earth) that Wales (and England, for that matter) were other names for the United Kingdom as a whole.

Wales is actually a province of the UK.

It's not a province, it's a country (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wales)

Lol, nice job using the dark skinned bishop to do the dirty.

Useful Jew anyone?

I always thought (until I looked it up on Google Earth) that Wales (and England, for that matter) were other names for the United Kingdom as a whole.

Wales is actually a province of the UK.
No, it's a constituent country, along with England, Scotland and Northern Ireland.

If i wanted a in depth debate over controversial subjects I'll do it with my friends or go on StormFront. where, in both cases i wouldn't get "gang banged".

The latter choice would quite neatly explain why you would get 'gang banged' at most places, incidentally.

Lol, nice job using the dark skinned bishop to do the dirty.

Useful Jew anyone?

It doesn't worry you at all, that you are the first person in the thread to comment on the bishop's race?

I'll stand by you to some extent ... his name suggests Indian and Arab descent. It is remarkable that he'd come out swinging for the Established Church, while scrupulously not mentioning race. There could be a message there: "you can integrate perfectly, all you need is the right religion."

But you'll have a hard time proving he was put up to it by the heirarchy of the Church of England. I think you're likely correct, but I'd never say it because it's unprovable.

The "useful Jew" comment is just foul. You imply that he's a traitor to his race, to protect his priveleges as a bishop? You deserve a new one for that!

Well i posted it because the OP clearly wanted a response and i gave one. Your just upset cause you didn't get your debate.

This:

Yeah, well tossing "politically incorrect" assumptions and not backing them up when called on it is considered a social faux pas here.


I find it odd that you come to a debate forum and proceed to blather about how you have no interest in debating here. I find it laughable that you'd prefer Stormfront. I'm not upset, just disappointed in another person with what looks to be bigoted opinions and has nothing to back them up.

The latter choice would quite neatly explain why you would get 'gang banged' at most places, incidentally.

If Stormfront has some mechanism or culture to prevent posters ganging up on a poster whose opinion is isolated ... then good for them.

Far more likely, Hachihyaku is among friends there, and never notices the gang-banging because they're one of the bangers.

If Stormfront has some mechanism or culture to prevent posters ganging up on a poster whose opinion is isolated ... then good for them.

Far more likely, Hachihyaku is among friends there, and never notices the gang-banging because they're one of the bangers.

Yeah. I tend to assume that if someone can post their opinions on Stormfront without getting bashed, those opinions will probably not fare all that well amongst sane company.

You misunderstand me. The Irish and the English had to have their own islands otherwise the world as we know it would come to a complete end.


Bollocks to that; the English DON'T have their own island. England is NOT an island, England and Britain are NOT synonyms, and the English do NOT own this entire island. And Scotland is here to remind you bastards of that.

[/mad rant]

...bigoted opinions and has nothing to back them up.

Tautology.

Bollocks to that; the English DON'T have their own island. England is NOT an island, England and Britain are NOT synonyms, and the English do NOT own this entire island. And Scotland is here to remind you bastards of that.

[/Scots rant]

Corrected.

So maybe next time i should not state my opinion unless it politically correct?

...

Or just have the relevant facts handy to back up your opinion!

Bollocks to that; the English DON'T have their own island. England is NOT an island, England and Britain are NOT synonyms, and the English do NOT own this entire island. And Scotland is here to remind you bastards of that.

[/mad rant]

Ahhh Patriotism, causing war and strife for millenia!:D

It's not a province, it's a country (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wales)

To be yet stricter, it's a constitutional principality.

Leaving aside for a moment discussions on the constituent portions of the United Kingdom (for the record, that's 2 Kingdoms [England & Scotland], 1 Principality [Wales] and 1 Province [N. Ireland]), I'm surprised that no one in the seven pages of this thread has mentioned the background of the Bishop of Rochester.

The Right Rev. Michael Nazir-Ali is a Pakistan-born son of Christian converts from Islam who's currently the only Asian-born bishop of the Church of England. Now, not for a second am I claiming that this in any way legitimises the recent comments of the Bishop, who has a history of making unwelcome inflammatory remarks along these lines, and is known for his hard-line social conservatism, but knowing that his parents were apostates from Islam may go some way towards explaining just why he's so hostile towards Moslems.

Again, this attempt to contextualise his hostility is in no way intended to excuse it, but I thought raising the issue might be relevant to the broader debate.

I don't know why the welsh are classed as a country. Wasn't it property of England for god knows how long? I know the English had a lot of wars with wales that ended up with it being conquered ... I think.

Are you really that clueless??

The Welsh were in the UK a long long time before the English...They are one of the oldest settlers here...the celts occupied mainland UK...then slowly dispursed across the sea to Ireland...up north to Scotland and to the west to Wales...fucking English are relative newcomers to this Island...and there was no wars...unless you count a few savages fighting an organised army...the english were more interesting in eradicating Scotland Ireland and Wales...why do you think everyone speaks english in Scotland? the language was all but destroyed by them...same for Wales...though we have a higher percentage of Welsh speakers...the English were like an unwelcome disease...

so in answer to your question...Yes we are a country...and very proud of it...now go take some geography and history lessons before you start commenting on something you obviously know fuck all about :upyours:

Are you really that clueless??

The Welsh were in the UK a long long time before the English...They are one of the oldest settlers here...the celts occupied mainland UK...then slowly dispursed across the sea to Ireland...up north to Scotland and to the west to Wales...fucking English are relative newcomers to this Island...and there was no wars...unless you count a few savages fighting an organised army...the english were more interesting in eradicating Scotland Ireland and Wales...why do you think everyone speaks english in Scotland? the language was all but destroyed by them...same for Wales...though we have a higher percentage of Welsh speakers...the English were like an unwelcome disease...

so in answer to your question...Yes we are a country...and very proud of it...now go take some geography and history lessons before you start commenting on something you obviously know fuck all about :upyours:

Who are the 'English'?

-snip-
I seriously don’t like being likened to “an unwelcome disease”. Just because you have a bee in your bonnet about history, doesn’t mean you can make such an offensive claim.

On top of that, its not like Britain was wine and roses before the Angles, Saxons et al turned up. The Romans gave the locals a hard time, after all. As well as that, it was the Normans who properly began the conquest of Wales in the 1100s, right after they had conquered the English and causes a shed load of hardships there. Ever heard of the Harrowing of the North? The Anglo-Saxon kingdoms before the Normans were also too busy half the time attempting to resist the Vikings (generalised term, yes) to attack the Welsh. The Vikings also attacked Wales, and the Welsh also attacked the Anglo-Saxons, so it’s not like the English had a monopoly on attacking everyone else. The Scottish Wars are full of examples were Scottish armies pushed fairly deeply into England. As well as that, invasions from Ireland also gave rise to Scotland itself, as before hand it was the kingdom of the Picts.

If you truly wish to claim knowledge of the history of these isles, you must also bear in mind that the term “Celt”, and all related words, are a fabrication by a late 18th Century group of scholars who idealised the pre-Roman Iron Age culture of Britain. The term is, admittedly, a useful one.

Who are the 'English'?

He means Saxons and Angles, really.

He means Saxons and Angles, really.

Aye.

In Suffolk there are Lower Palaeolithic settlements. There are even Mesolithic flint working sites.

Are you really that clueless??

The Welsh were in the UK a long long time before the English...They are one of the oldest settlers here...the celts occupied mainland UK...then slowly dispursed across the sea to Ireland...up north to Scotland and to the west to Wales...fucking English are relative newcomers to this Island...and there was no wars...unless you count a few savages fighting an organised army...the english were more interesting in eradicating Scotland Ireland and Wales...why do you think everyone speaks english in Scotland? the language was all but destroyed by them...same for Wales...though we have a higher percentage of Welsh speakers...the English were like an unwelcome disease...

so in answer to your question...Yes we are a country...and very proud of it...now go take some geography and history lessons before you start commenting on something you obviously know fuck all about :upyours:

Ahhhhh isn't it fun to see how ancient troubles can still stir the blood. I know some Welsh people, and so I wouldn't wish to generalise, but every time I manage to get over that bridge to vist some of my mates in wales, I get grief from the locals.

They are not entirely friendly, except those who leave and integrate with the rest of our island.

Tautology.

Hmm? Are you meaning that I'm making a contradiction: that bigoted opinions cannot be held with evidence? To which I'd agree.

Bollocks to that...

Are you really that clueless??...

Now, this is the kind of unnecessarily angry and antagonistic patriotism that people dislike.

To be yet stricter, it's a constitutional principality.

Largest in the world baby :cool:

As well as that, it was the Normans who properly began the conquest of Wales in the 1100s, right after they had conquered the English and causes a shed load of hardships there.

I can sypathise with that comment...Im actually a Barrett and a direct descendant of the Barrett clan who have now settled in Ireland...though originally the Barretts were Welsh...A mercenary clan hired by the Normans to fight the Irish in the 12th century...Immortalised in " The Welshmen of Tirawley " a ballad by Samuel Ferguson.

but i reckon if they, or the conservatives under Boris Johnson, got into power- just for a week- it’d be a bit of a laugh. turn the news into a comedy.
No thank you.

Charming and amusing he may be, but Mr. Johnson is still a racist authoritarian ****, stuck somewhere in the 19th century.

So maybe next time i should not state my opinion unless it politically correct?
I agree with Stewart Lee who says that:

“The kind of people who say ‘political correctness gone mad’ are usually using that phrase as a cover action to attack minorities or people that they disagree with. I’m of an age where I can see the difference political correctness has made. When I was four years old my Grandfather drove me around Birmingham where the Tories had just fought an election campaign saying, ‘If you want a ****** for a neighbour, vote Labour’, and he drove me round saying, ”this is where all the coons and niggers and jungle bunnies live. And I remember being in school and when the teacher read out the register, instead of saying the name of the one Asian boy in class, he would say, ‘Is the black spot in?’.“

”All these things have gradually been eroded by political correctness, which seems to be about institutionalised politeness at its worst. And if there is some fall-out from this which means that someone in office might get in trouble one day for saying something that someone was a bit unsure about, because they couldn’t decide if it was sexist or homophobic or racist, it’s a small price to pay for the massive benefits and improvements for the quality of life of millions of people that political correctness has made."

I agree with Stewart Lee who says that:......<snipped>

Ahh good old Stewart Lee. He's fuckin' right as well, I too remember such times.

Ahh good old Stewart Lee. He's fuckin' right as well, I too remember such times.

Sadly its utter bollocks. Mainly because the 'political correctness gone mad' meme is a rightist invention.

i completely forgot about this thread and it turns out to be one of my most successful. in future i shall ignore my own threads more often.

Sadly its utter bollocks. Mainly because the ‘political correctness gone mad’ meme is a rightist invention.
Which is exactly what Lee is saying.

Crossed wires somewhere?

i completely forgot about this thread and it turns out to be one of my most successful. in future i shall ignore my own threads more often.
Finally, you get the hint. :p